/lit/ - Literature

King of /sffg/.

Simple as.

>>19894777
checked.
asked for recommendations in the last thread without checking the mega, apologies sffg. also, complete newfag to lit, is bakker actually that shit, pls guys, i have a book in my amazon cart right now.

>>19894796
Not unless you like cuckoldry. I was deceive into reading them and I regret it ever since.

Let me give you a quick rundown on The Darkness That Comes Before:

>100 pages into first apocalypse book
>the love of one of pov character is literally selling her body while he watched her do so. she's standing on her balcony welcoming him back home, as she's fresh from the downdicking
>their big love story is actually pov character going after (but never finding) a sex customer that hurt the girl.
Dropped it after that and never looked back.

>>19894809
>Filtered.
Many such cases.

Why are we being raided by Americans?

I am looking for a dark fantasy series with intense battles, pitch black lore, highly intellectual themes that dovetail into real world philosophy, poignant character psychology, and just a hint of Lovecraftian horror. Is there anything out there like this?

>>19894809
Thanks.

I will check him out nonetheless and form my own opinions about the books.

>>19894817

>>19894822
no thanks

>>19894796
The Second Apocalypse (Bakker's Magnum Opus) is a tremendously refreshing well-written masterpiece. I couldn't give you enough adjectives to make it justice.
He also happens to be one of the best contemporary fantasy authors. Arguably the best living one, in my humble opinion.
Just ignore the memes, people get out of control when Bakker is mentioned. On both sides, I might add. Still worth checking out for yourself, regardless.

>>19894809
alright, thanks. honestly, because i don't know board culture, you could have told me it the was best fucking book ever made and i'd still be hesitant after seeing all the spam. will try the first book, probably be upset that i got scammed into shit, and report back in a few weeks.

>>19894809
Did you miss the part where that character falls in love with a prostitute? You can't be that stupid, can you?

>>19894840
this isn't board culture
just realize that every time you see someone recommend bakker or post a copy pasted spam, it's some american election tourist that came here and think he's being funny
disregard them, don't even bother replying.

>>19894840
Based Independent thinker.

>>19894833
forgot to upload before replying, i'm >>19894840
thanks for the reply, will look into that one and go through some of the mega link for more. i appreciate it, litfags

>>19894850
If you really are new here, then you need to understand two main things:
1. Bakker is the most popular author in this general's history, as seen by the sheer number of memes and praise/hate posting.
2. Low IQs / Poorly trained ESLs cannot understand his prose, which is why any mention of him quickly devolves into shit-posting and false flagging. They can't cope with the fact that they will never be part of the club.

>>19894822
Thank you.

>>19894869
ESL here. I don't want to be a part of bakkers faggot club.

>>19894869
>505 votes
>only 153 for bakker
>352 for others
ohnononono bakkerbros

>He thinks he can choose to be part of the club.
Made me giggle, ngl.

>>19894891
>rememeber

>>19894777
Bloodborne is fucking gigabased.

>>19894886
>Bakker's*
You seem resentful for being filtered.

>the virgin curved phallus vs the chad fat pink mast

>>19894777
Severian is explicitly genderfluid. The Book of the New Sun is trannycore. What now, Wolfebros?

>>19894869
Damn, Is this Bakker guy really this popular? How wasn't I aware of this?

>>19894904
She would make a great Severian.

>>19894905
You're probably not a straight white male.

>>19894917
>not a straight white male.
>not straight
>not white
but I'm not american

>>19894904
Can't be true because he raped Jolenta and only men can rape

>>19894919
I know, Ramesh.

>>19894923
you clearly don't understand

>>19894924
I understand, Mowgli.

>>19894940
I accept your concession.

>>19894940
You sound like an american, so I'm going to leave you be.

>>19894941
>>19894942
Uh, schizobros?

>>19894921
True, transapphist are men. Jolenta asked for it, though.

>>19894946
Accept defeat.

>>19894984
I have a boomerang shaped dong and I will make you submit.

>>19894988
Not my problem.

>>19894989
Just remember that climax is consent.

What are some fantasy series with cute girls like ghibli

>>19895112
May I recommend Futanari Moans? Riveting stuff.

>>19895201
No one cares about your shitty book, fuck off.

>>19895470
Holy fucking Based.

Truth Shines.

>>19895470
>>19892931
You rarely see these quality takes/theories on Reddit. It's unironically one of the reasons why they have to be discussed here.
"B-but Kellhus lost control in the end!" is the biggest cope I've ever seen.

>Proyas had been cursed by the fact of his birth, then doomed all the more by what life would make of him. His was a wondering soul, philosophical in the Near Antique sense. But it was also an exacting one, a soul that demanded clarity and resolution. As a babe he had slept in his mother’s arms no matter what the court or domestic furor. The clamour meant nothing to him, so long as beloved arms held him tight, so long as the beloved face smiled down.
>For twenty years this had been what Kellhus had given him: the drowsy slumber of certainty.
Bakker retroactively dabbing on christcuck larpers of /lit/

>>19895470
>In the same chapter here, Kellhus goes to the Outside to talk with the Ciphrang.
Is this narrated? I don't recall that, perhaps I missed it. But your Head on the Pole theory is solid. I haven't thought about this myself.

I definitely agree 100% that he was tapping into Cishaurim Magic. If you pay enough attention, after rescuing Esmenet and Kelmomas he shares a bizarre and unjustified moment of "genuine" affection towards her. Which I honestly cannot explain.

>>19894869
Bakker's pros are fine but he's an untalented hack. He doesn't know how to write likable characters or tell a story with appropriate pacing.

>>19895624
>female hands wrote this

>>19895510
So you admit you go on reddit. Fuck off.

>>19895624
Not really.

>>19895630
No actually, everyone here agrees the characters are bad. You just don't listen to reason.

>>19895643
Not really.

>>19895643
Not me, buddy. I don't agree with you.

>>19895630
Esmenet's character was too realistic for her to cope.

>>19895643
>Female Filtered ESL hands wrote this.

>>19895707
Based. My mother told I'd never be a woman but thank you for believing in me.

>>19894779
I'd really encourage you to take the time you spend making this post every thread and use it to actually read more sff books.

Has anybody noticed that it's really hard remembering truly likeable female MC.
There are likeable male MC, eg Mat, Perrin in WoT, Sam in LotR, but of a life of me I cannot remember any likeable female MC.

>>19895800
>female MC
stop this meme

>>19895800
Don't you forget my girl Nynaeve

I need to find a place where this much concentrated autism is geared towards discussion of good authors like Wolfe and Herbert instead of reddit authors like Bakker and Sanderson.

>>19895823
Sanderson is a better author though and the posters make quality posts compared to bakker posters.

no one cares about your overused shit bait

>>19895531
esmi was the single best female character I've ever read in fantasy

>>19895823
It's hard to believe, but Bakker is a good author despite the false flaggers, trolls and morons worshipping him for the wrong reasons in this thread.

>>19895976
Do you know what's not hard to believe? That people here don't read.

>>19895800
Sam is a secondary character. Frodo is the MC.

>>19895984
>Being filtered by Tolkien

Now I've seen everything.

>>19895976
Don't care I'll never read because of those posters. Anything they like can't be good.

do superheroes fit into fantasy or science fiction?

>>19895993
Sanderson does this.

>>19895986
Just because Tolkien decides to flip the MC at the end of Return of the King, doesn't mean that Frodo isn't the fucking the MC of the majority of the trilogy. Majority of the series the audience explores the world through Frodo.

>>19895976
I started reading him yesterday, and I honestly don't understand why he's so contentious here. He's a very good writer, there's no denying that. I'm surprised that fantasy writers can write prose like he does.

>>19895993
You'd file it under whichever marketing term ("genre") happened to be more profitable in the target demographic at the moment.

>>19895984
>no one cares about your overused shit bait

yeah, but you live for sam chapters. And are the most happy when it says what Sam is doing.
Frodo is ehh MC

>>19896058
retard

>>19895820
Nynaeve is a truly awful character who only exists to be an annoying nag. I dropped WOT the second she became a POV character.

>The Wheel of Time cucks have arrived.
Your series was always shit, as is your TV show.

finished God Emperor, took me a while

>>19895800
>mobs your male MC

>>19896155
>mobs
mogs, whoops*
She could probably mob your male MC too considering she's somewhat a necromancer and can control undead

> no one here discussing the absolute kino of a chapter from Practical Guide to Evil

absolutely plebian tastes gentlemen

>>19895785
You are a woman to me.

>>19894869
Is that poll real?

>>19896398
Yes.

>>19896398
if you mean by did it exist, sure
if you mean by are all voters unique, nah

>>19896398
Yes, it is real. You couldn't vote multiple times.

>sffg has less than 50 posters in it
>poll has 500 votes
the power of magic

>>19896596
To be fair, that poll was spread around multiple places.

>>19896601
Yeah, I saw it around multiple platforms too. Not just here.
>>19896596
>>sffg has less than 50 posters in it
Not back then, it didn't.

>>19896613
>Not back then, it didn't.
yeah, the american bakker spammers really did a number on this general

>>19896613
We've definitely never had 500 posters.

>>19896596
everyone cheats the polls, Bakkerchads are simply the best at it

>>19896765
500 concurrent posters, rather*

Just got to that Proyas scene, its even worse than I imagined, he lifts him in the air and all

>>19896765
That would literally kill threads at birth.

what book would you recommend an NTR fetishist like me
so stuff like MC's wife cheated on him, or gf got mind broken by demon rape, or magic induced amnesia made her fug another guy

>>19896787
read bakker, there is plenty of cuckoldry in bakker novels

>>19896787
>gf got mind broken by demon rape
sounds hot, my favorite though is sensation altering slave collars that make you obedient

>>19896775
>mfw he mentioned the smell of Lamb

>>19896765
>reading comprehension

>randomly searching YouTube for ballardian videos
>find interesting video essay
>recognise the name as the guy I worked in a bookshop with many years ago, who wrote a book about SF must reads
>got me in to Phillip K Dick, Ballard and other writers
https://youtu.be/L2KSv800IgY

>Well, yes. I am a Wolfechad. How could you tell?

>>19896934
you can be honest anon
that's your video innit

>innit
We are getting raided by Brits again, aren't we?

>>19897231
It is just american bakkertranny falseflagging.

>>19894777
Deep Dive - Ron Walters (2022)

Both the author and readers have compared this to Blake Crouch's Dark Matter. I haven't read Dark Matter and probably won't ever. If I had looked into this book a bit more I wouldn't have read it, and overall that would've been for the better. I went into this with the wrong expectations. It's only nominally science fiction at best and only marginally about videogames. As the author notes, it's not even really a technothriller, though I don't seem to like those either. This is primarily a book where the protagonist is just along for the ride and the plot progresses due to external forces. I'm not exaggerating when I say that the pivotal plot point is him arguing on Reddit.

Pop culture, mostly videogames and movies, are regularly namedropped for decorative effect. There were times where it felt like he was trying to meet a quota and was just shoehorning in references. Based on what the author says in this interview I'm going to assume that this was written by the author with the hope it would be published because it supposedly copies a relatively very popular book and the publisher thought people would buy it for the same reason.
https://paulsemel.com/exclusive-interview-deep-dive-author-ron-walters/

Walters does have some strengths in his writing, but for whatever reason his weaknesses are showcased instead. I'd certainly give him another chance if he wrote a book that was about what he does well, namely family life and psychological horror somewhat similar to PKD. Instead, what I got was a bait and switch and arguably a misrepresentation. I blame marketing.

The ending is awful. It's one of the worst I've read in years. It ruined whatever enjoyment I had. I don't know if there's a word for it, but it's in the uncanny valley of plausibility between the metaphorical and literal. It isn't abstract enough to where you can take it on faith and enjoy it for what it is. It also isn't logical enough to where hopefully anyone would believe it's a reasonable explanation. The ending is so bad that I'm glad that I didn't like rest of the book more because then it would've severely painful rather than disappointing.

I was reluctant to write this, because as it says in the book:
People say the truth will set you free, but they’re wrong. The truth fucking sucks. The truth will tear your heart out of your chest and crush your soul and splinter your mind until your body is nothing more than a hollow shell.

A List of Namedrops & References

Games:
Animal Crossing
Bloodborne
Dark Souls
Doom Eternal
Ghost of Tsushima
God of War
Gran Turismo
Halo
Horizon Zero Dawn
Mario Kart
Mass Effect
Metal Gear Solid
Nier: Automata
Red Dead Redemption
Senua's Sacrifice
Silent Hill
Skyrim
The Last of Us

Movies:
Back to the Future
Die Hard
Fight Club
James Bond
Terminator
The Family Man
The Matrix
The Thirteenth Floor
Total Recall
Tron
WarGames

>>19897632
Dark matter wasn't bad.

>>19897651
/sffg/ Consensus:
5: 8
4: 4
3: 8
2: 4
1: 2

Scores all over the place, though more on the good side.

>>19897632
I think that a couple pop culture references in a book are acceptable. That many references are what I would regard as cringe and unreadable.

>>19897717
That's just the games and movies. There are also magazines, tv series, people, music, and various other sorts of pop culture mentioned. There's also a few games I didn't include because it wasn't 100% clear that's what was being referenced.

My stance on pop culture references is that how many are allowable is entirely dependent on the context. In this case it is overly much, but it's also set on Earth in contemporary times, so I allow for a lot more.

>>19897632
Oops, lol, I forgot to put the rating at the end.
Rating: 2/5

is there a website to pirate audiobooks like libgen?

>>19897782
Yes, of course. There are torrents, irc, direct downloads, filelockers and various other ways. Whether they'll have what you want is a differrent matter. The file sizes are so much larger though.

>>19897801
so no centralized database then

>>19894777
A lot of the reviews on The Black Company state that the book is almost entirely devoid of descriptive details, how true is that assessment?

>>19897819
Read it and find out instead of wasting your time asking the same question.

>>19897810
Not that I'm aware of anyway, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I don't seek them out though.

>>19897819
You asked this in the last thread. Hours passed by. Is looking at the Amazon excerpt too much of a hassle for you to do?

>>19897828
>waste money instead of asking people that have already read it
Found the amerishart

>>19897838
I’m going to ask it in every thread until I get an answer, does that please you?

>>19897819
>how true is that assessment?
true

>>19896155
This worth reading? Never heard of it.

>>19897782
mobilism has lots of audiobooks so try your luck there

>>19897841
>waste money
You've never heard of a library? You're clearly the american here, mutt.

>>19898033
Libraries are communism.

>/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

>>19897903
It is fantastic YA. A solid trilogy and has one of, if not the best feline character in fiction.

>>19898145
it has female mc, it is garbage

>>19898155
Thanks for the bump to my book rec, newfag.

>>19896155
Thanks for shilling this book anon, the books are coming in the mail cause of you

>>19898097
Don't post your selfies here.

Newfags fear THE quintessential power-hungry voluntarily-celibate 4chan arch magus.
Imagine him as a xianxia protag lol

Finishing up this series. It was alright, but a bit too animesque. The world simply wasn't believable - it was just a means to an end and built around the conflict first. Characters were pretty shallow and gimmick-ey, but I have to admit I liked Bliss and Petal. I thought Caulder's use of quotation was going to be this, but it actually had a pretty fun payoff at the end even if it didn't go far. Romances weren't too believable, but I like the character interactions overall. Shera and Lukon specifically. It just kind of... happens. Even worse since it feels like the author is setting up Darius to be a romance after Lukon's death, but I'm already halfway through the final book and that doesn't seem to be happening. That romance works. Lukon should have been a backstory and already dead and Darius should have been introduced sooner to be a proper romantic arc. The ending on Caulder's side was pretty good, but I'm a little nervous about how Shera's will end. The interspersed flashbacks made the books feel a bit schizophrenic, and I think they would have absolutely been better as a trilogy instead of three duologies. Though admittedly, I probably wouldn't have started if the book was twice as long as it was, so it was probably the right choice, at least from a marketing perspective. Also, this might just be me, but why did both major players - the consultants and the black watch - both have to wear black? Did the author forget about other colors? It would have worked if he was trying to draw some sort of parallel or comparison, but that never happens. And I apologize if I spelled names wrong - I listened to the audiobooks.

Overall? Needed more boats. I liked the elder stuff, but I don't read too much contemporary fantasy so it also might be cliched. Still, it's new to me. Very soft 3/4. Leaning towards 2 stars, but in the end I did read and enjoy 6 books, so 3/4 feels more right. If it was really a 2 star series, I think I would have dropped it.

What should I read next? This series got me in the mood for some romance if anyone has suggestions there.

I am looking for a dark fantasy series with intense rape, pitch black seed, highly intellectual themes (cuckoldry) that dovetail into real world fetishes, pungent anal sex, and just a hint of Lovecraftian futa. Is there anything out there like this?

>>19898246
tfw no anime Bliss gf

>>19898251
I don't think such book exists.

>>19895531
>Is this narrated?
I don't think it is, but I could be wrong.

I really enjoyed the red Mars trilogy, can you guys tell me something similar to it for me to read next?

>>19898270
Yeah, I've got white knight syndrome something bad. I just want to cradle her through her nightmares and her episodes and tell her she's a real person.

>>19898246
You know it's literally the literary equivalent of the old shitpost Ninjas Vs Pirates, right?

Also the ninja sections were a slog. I'm frozen at book 2 for years because I don't want to read the girl's POV. It's literally the worst.

Did you read the author's other series, House of Blades? It's another animesque series about swords. It was fun.

>>19898251
Anne Bishop's Black Jewels Trilogy.

Nobody writes rape like women, because secretly they all want to be raped.

>>19898285
>shitpost
That was internet culture at its peak. I actually didn't notice since there's basically no boats after the first three chapters and no piracy in it at all, and actually, that makes me think of it a bit more highly.

You're not missing much. Especially at the beginning, Shera starts as a pretty shitty character ripped straight from a generic shonen anime. She just cares about sleeping and eating and mentions that repeatedly. While Mea doesn't really have a character at all. I would have loved some romance drama between the three of them with Mea jealous and upset that her chimera enhancements made her unlovable or something. It gets a little bit better, but it's definitely the b-plot. I'll keep that in mind, but I'm not looking for more anime right now,

This shit is fucked really. I want to get some nicely bound books. Dune, maybe Silmarillion. Someone recommended me folio society, the dune book looks really cool, but it's a hundred euros which I find preposterous really. The Silmarillion one has artwork that doesn't even fit the story which is kind of weird. I checked the second hand sites but for some weird reason they barely have any books that people are selling. What do I do? I just want to hold a nice book instead of some garbage paperback.

>>19898320
>>19898246
I'm glad that you make an effort to actually read new books. Most of the oldfags left long ago, and only few of us here actually read anything new(or at all) and don't just reread the same books over and over and try to meme people into discussing it ad nauseam.

Also romance in modern fiction sucks. Any book that starts to focus on the romance always takes a dive into the shitter, be carefully while digging through books out there, reviewfag.

>>19898348
Get yourself an ereader you dumb bakkerfaggot

>>19896155
After seeing you posting this book for the third time now, I've put it on my to-read-list

Hey
So basically I'm just not gonna read him (Bakker)
I know... UGH... I know
I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!
Its just that I'm not going to read him is all
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>19894777
Is there a military fantasy guide? I looked through the mega and didn’t see one

>>19898285
Imagine how SHORT Cradle would be, as a series, if Simon were the MC. He shits in and around Lindon's mouth in terms of getting shit done.

>>19898360
E-readers are for paupers. And pic related is the only bakker I know.

>>19898351
>only few of us here actually read anything new
Some meh self-pub progression fantasy I follow has barely been updated and I think one author died during covid because he's disappeared for 2 years now lol fucking rip

>>19898372
No, but since they are made by randoms you'd just as well off finding those who read a lot of military fantasy. You could look at other lists as well.

>>19898383
>uncanny, haunted physiognomy and flowing golden locks
must run in the family

>>19898371
Probably a good idea, you would inevitably become a deranged fanatic unable to enjoy any other fantasy.

Phallus: curved
Beard: plaited
Profile: leonine

Yup its Bakker time

>>19898393
Oh no no no no no

>>19898348
Sorry dude, modern publishing is a scam when it comes to nicely bound books
Look at Everyman's Library and the cost that they charge for their hardbacks and then compare it to what other publishers like folio and harpercollins charge for their books, clearly there's a scam going on when Everyman's library can charge far less
If you can't afford Folio then you're shit out of luck cause I know the other Dune hardbacks are going to be shit quality

>>19898395
More like
> Beard: crushed

>>19898396
Why does Bakker always look sickly? Dude needs more sun.

>>19898395
>>19898403
Also
> Phallus: greased and pendulous

>>19898372
Read the Romance of the Three Kingdoms
I don't think true military fantasy exists

Relationship Status: ABSOLUTE

>>19898411
I don't actually care enough to read any more of Bakker but I'm curious enough to ask, what's the deal with the head graft thing? Why do they do it?

>>19898399
Mate I was just honking about this. I bought the 4 destiny lore grimoires for my mate, they were like 18 euros a piece. Leather bound with nice drawings as well. So figured I'd be be able to get dune for 30 or something. So I got pic related and it's a massive fucking scam. It's a loose paper around a blank black hardcover and the quality is garbage. Excess glue everywhere.

>>19898429
RAFO ;)

Yolk: parsed
Pith: salted
Anus: honeyed

>>19898435
nah

>>19898429
>>19898440
>You in the back

>>19898429
Joke's on you.

>>19898391
>you'd just as well off finding those who read a lot of military fantasy.
What?

>>19898455
Is the answer that there isn't a reason?

>>19898440
Not my problem.

>>19898440
>>19898429
Read the history of earwa pdf to get all the lore without reading the books https://drive.google.com/file/d/1R_Gp-xTjsEXQBvkZQENi6dliyk8SFeHT/view

How do you season a Sranc in Eärwa?

>>19898429
To talk

>>19898456
*You'd be

>>19898463
>>19898429
The head grafting was to enable them to use sorcery

Hello brother. Tell us, WHAT DO YOU SEE?!

>>19898372
This shit is OLD and needs updating.

Too bad I won't do it.

PS Throw Malazan (maybe), Unhewn Throne, Promise of Blood and the thousand names to the fantasy section.

>>19898471
>>19898472
Thanks for not being weird and insufferable about it. I really appreciate it.

>>19898429
To make them have oral sex. Unironically

>>19898472
No, it was to enable them to speak in a way the inhabitants of Earwa could understand

>>19898479
No problem, low IQ friend.

Finishing up Rememberance of Earth's Past. Should my next endeavor be the Foundation Trilogy or the Mars trilogy?

>>19898484
>>19898472
No, it was to be able to reproduce

Stop lying.

>>19898384
You aren't talking about Andries Louws by chance?

>>19898481
Yeah that sounds like Bakker cringe. Gonna choose to believe this is the answer.

>>19898429
Ignore the shit-posters. The real reason is because Kellhus dies

>>19898494
Nah

>>19898396
Those are some big nipples

>>19898505
For you.

>Hello anon, what would you like to ask?

>>19898487
No no anon, you've confused your shitposting tactics. You should wish to insult me by calling me a sensitive sjw tranny because I refuse to read about anymore of Bakker's disgusting fetishes. I understood the book perfectly well.

Imagine seething this hard.

>>19898529
Totally, I was being nice and all.

>>19898437
>>19898403
Weeping: womanish
Might: boggling
Neck: cricked for straining
Death: swirling down

>>19898517
Are you still alive?
Why did you allow a retarded schizo like Madness to edit your last book?

>>19898487
kek

>>19898517
>Direct eye contact
>Resting on the balls of his feet, ready to pounce
>Clothing that doesn't restrict his ability to perform karate kicks

This man has the liquid grace of a true predator.

>>19898558
Holy based.

>>19898552
This post: A cataract of absolute prose

>>19898552
Seed: black
Horns: golden
Orifices: knife-made

>>19898603
Phallus: curved

What's some enjoyable popcorn reading comparable to... idk Worm? I finished Book of the Long Sun and want something light before I start up Short Sun.

>>19898603
Horn: turgid

>>19898603
Meat: Sranc

Sranc actually sounds delicious from the descriptions.

How die we go from this...

>>19898735
...to this?!

>>19898735
to this.

I find it strange bakker made up all these words fake words for real life things but couldn't come up with a word replacement for "jihad".

>>19898603
Hotel: Trivago

>>19898735
...TO THIS!?

>>19898735
To this?!

>>19898823
based beyond belief

>>19898735
to thid.

>>19898735
to this.

>>19894777
Am I the only one that gets put off by overly complicated and meticulously autistic world-building? Stuff along the lines of Malazan and Cosmere rack my brain while Tolkien and G.R.R.M. are significantly more grounded and enjoyable

>>19899036
You’re autistic, anon. No need to get defensive about it.

>>19899036
I found Cosmere pretty straight forward.
Malazan is purposefully obfuscated by but disappointingly bland once understood.

>>19899098
Autistic isn’t an insult, and even if I was autistic that would mean that I enjoy such world-building when I clearly stated that I don’t

>>19894779
I read the first three books then threw them in the trash.

>>19899111
unbased

>>19898422
>I don't think true military fantasy exists
Think again, chud

>>19899145
cringe

>>19899159
Looks like I struck a nerve sweaty :)

>>19899170
I'm not the one reading pro fascist manga sweaty :)

>>19898562
>Direct eye contact
making direct eye contact is the sign of a "true predator" to you? I think I understand why the anons on this board are the way they are now

>>19899185
;)

What do you guys think of jojen paste?

>>19898562
>>19899194

Ronald Scott Bakker hammered his knife into the heavy table. Bowls, platters, and anon all jumped. “This,” he grated. “This! This is what the world is in truth!”

Anon swallowed, somehow managed to maintain his façade of good humour. “And what might that be?”

The author grinned. “Even now, it moves you.”

Anon licked his lips. Fine features tightened about clenched teeth. Why did anger always look so bland on beautiful faces? “I can assure you,” anon said evenly, “I fear no—”

Bakker struck, cuffed him so hard he toppled backward.

“You act as though you live this life a second time!” Bakker leapt into a crouch upon the table, sent plates and bowls spinning. Eyes as round as silver talents, anon scrambled backward through the cushions. “As though you were assured of its outcome!”

Anon had turned, was fighting his way clear of the depression. “Janny-Janny—!” Bakker vaulted across the table, hammered the back of his head. The imageboard poster went down. Bakker unfastened his belt, snapped it free. He yanked it about the sobbing man’s neck, hoisted him to his knees. He wrenched him back to the table, threw him onto his chest. He smashed his face against its own reflection—once, twice …

He looked up, saw the /sffg/ lurkers cringing in the shadows, their arms upraised. One of them wept.

“I am a demon!” he cried. “A demon!”

Then he turned back to anon shuddering on the table beneath him.

Some things required literal explanation.

>>19899194
t. prey who look at the ground when talking

Thoughts on this?

http://www.luminist.org/archives/SF/

>"The term is 'cultural meme,'" Malcolm said, leaning back. "Memes hold on for remarkably long periods of time. Gael children were raised with the words murmured to them by their mothers, who had forgotten the meaning but liked the tune as a lullaby. You can find it anywhere that there was a strong strain of the Scots Gael, the southeast of Norau for example, or Anarchia before it was shifted. And here in the Highlands the strain is strong and deep. Hell, the theme of 'the king will return' permeates all Indo-European cultures. It's a philosophical basis for the Christ myth that existed long before he did or did not actually live. I can help Norau ride that meme to victory."

>>19899124
I have never before read a series that I cared so little about where it was going. Oh boy, more torture porn.

>author only wrote 2 novels several decades ago
I'm getting kino vibes.

>>19899270
>ywn have Bakker rape enlightenment into you
I'm going to die without attaining the Absolute...

they don't make non-unbased books anymore, I think that's it, we its only down hill from here.

they only release non-kino books, we its not like the non-pozzed days

Nothing like sucking off my neighbour after reading some Bakker.

>>19899514
Correct. I tried reading Empire of Silence and it was "Dune but every character is gay and the MC gets cucked".

>>19899524
I think its because the pozzed machine took over publishing, now if you write kino you are immedietly evicted from your house and turned homeless by the pozzed publishing system, and if you write non-kino you get successful with many bitches, many such cases.

>>19899536
There are plenty of based books being published on KDP that never get read

>>19894777
Thoughts on The First Law series? I’m looking for military fantasy

>>19899540
So its not the publishing system that is pozzed? but the readers themselves....... are the pozzed ones?

WE ARE POZZED!

>>19899540
Sure but how many have you heard of besides Cradle

>>19898517
>hey bakker im a fa-
BBRAAAPP
>when will the next b-
BBRAAAAPPFFTGHTTGTFGHGGHFGGH

>>19899545
no Big Publisher is pozzed AND readers are pozzed. based books and based readers are both minorities
>>19899564
Joke's on you I exclusively read self-published erotica

Madness1 can fuck right off

>>19899542
It's not military fantasy.

>>19899573
>unwashed anuses
HNNG!

Answer me queers >>19899542

>>19899542
'sarrite. Plot is thinly veiled political commentary but not too hamfisted. Couple of decent characters. Not strictly military focused, but probably enough to scratch that itch.

>>19899590
Nobody cares.

>>19899573
Fuck off IamSp00ky, you're worse

>>19899542
read there will be dragons

>>19899351
Bump

>>19899351
>>19899606
Nobody cares.

>>19899593
>>19899610
Meds, now

>>19899610
Fuck off

>>19899583
>>19899591
>>19899595
K thx bye

>>19899351
Are the stories in these magazines good? Arthur C Clarke was in one of them. Or is there a better place to find short stories?

>>19899635
Some are and some aren't. Well respected anthologies might be a better overall choice (or just "collected stories of" if you are looking for a specific author) but there will still be dozens of stories worth reading in those magazines because it was so common for the big names to feature in them.

>>19894897
Bloodborne, Dark Souls 1, and (supposedly) the original Demon Souls all do an excellent job at capturing a strange fantastical feeling I’ve only ever really gotten from literature.

>>19895800
Red Sonja in the series by Richard Tierney and David Smith, Angelika Fleischer, and my girl Kino.

>>19896155
I’ve actually thought about buying this as well, just for how sick that cover looks. Your shilling is working anon.

hey ssfg, read the charts and couldnt really find what i was looking for.

I'm a big fan of Sci fi and Fantasy (Read/loved Peter F Hamilton, Frontlines (LOVED Frontlines!) Castle Federation, things like that, more hard sci fi but ok with some soft. Star carrier is next on my list.

I also deeply love fantasy, urban and traditional. Wheel, Dune, Alex Verus, Mistborn, Dresden, etc.

I was looking for series that have "fantasy, but in space". Like star wars is really just fantasy in space, but I would love a more hard sci fantasy novel that also included sci fi/space travel. Specifically, a Sanderson type of hard magic system but also with space tech.

Thinking about it would be if Frontlines Sci-fi setting had a magic system like Sanderson/Wheel in it.

I havent been able to find almost any series that has magic + space and is worth reading (besides dune). Any suggestions?

About to start my ASOIAF read, I'm so excited bros

>Specifically, a Sanderson type of hard magic system but also with space tech.
Just read Sanderson's SF then, lol. Good luck!

>>19899765
maybe he wants it non-pozzed?

>>19899710
I hope you like it anon. Haven’t given it much of a chance myself but I actually like George RR Martin’s interviews so it might be worth looking into.

>>19894904
wut

how tf is severian "genderfluid" in any way/shape/form? post adaleptic azalbo, his personality clearly maintains dominance, and thecla's only pops up every now and then with random memories or pushing for mercy.

dude is also pretty obsessed with his penis/sword and dicks pretty much any woman he can.

you'd have a much stronger case if you wanted to say he is enamored of himself and uses women as a means to that end, but nothing in BotNS suggests he's genderfluid beyond you skimming past the adaleptic alzabo scene and then ignoring subsequent text.

>>19898558
pretty sure madness edited more than just TUC. pretty sure madness was the idiot behind the push to have bakker try pressuring his publisher with an astroturfed fandom, only to have someone mildly intelligent immediately see right through it and put bakker on a DO NOT PUBLISH list throughout the industry.

madness released so many garbage "spoilers" of TGO and TUC that were all completely wrong, it drove half of the users over at the 3 seas forum crazy, and then had the gall to act like it was all just because he'd gone off his meds. says a lot that bakker trusted an idiot like this.

Just started reading the Kane Chronicles, I fucking hate Zia Rashid.

why do normies fear scifi so much?
been seeing a lot of people in my friend circle go "sci-fi? I'm not really interested in them."

>>19899878
People consistently mistake Severian for a woman. Xe probably would have sucked mean Typhon dick had it come to it.

>>19899986
fantasy is comfort food

>>19899988
???

you gonna give any cites for that, because that's not ringing any bells

>>19900004
ignore the fucking shitposter, Jesus Christ.

>>19894777
I'm really tired of generic sci-fi of little guy vs big empire, everyone fights with swords etc. Is there any good war sci-fi that's not generic as hell?

Also nice OP

>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L7BX372
An ancient evil... rises up? mite b cool

>>19900043
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L7BX372
Ancient evil wakes from eons old sleep, and pits its strength against the world of man…

Brand, exiled since his youth from the land he should rightfully rule, returns home. But nothing is as it seems, and the usurper who murdered his parents and sent countless assassins to kill him is not his greatest threat.

A magician serves the usurper, and his power is of a kind both deadly and rare. Brand does not know of his existence, but the magician divines his coming and his purpose. He cannot let Brand live, for he is the sort of man who can tumble thrones and challenge fate itself.

Brand, intent on righting past wrongs, gathers an army as he journeys. But enemies beset him. Beasts of magic hunt him. And the pale swordsman who is not a man stalks him across the land. Brand enters a world of magic, a time of chaos and a crossroads of destiny. For a dark shadow of evil reaches forth to conquer, and one man will not stop it, nor will one kingdom sate its lust for dominion…

>>19899986
Scifi is anti-sex, it removes your bodycount. So, if you fucked say 10 women, and then read a sci-fi novel, your mind reverts to that of a man who fucked 9 women. Logically, you can see that virgins who read sci-fi plunge into a kind of ubervirginity with a negative bodycount. Such people are usually insane, obese, and have body dysmorphia

>>19899111
I don't remember asking.

>>19899111
Who cares, you're a fucking retard for buying them in the first place. Joke's on you.

>reading about Whale-mothers
>got a chub
What is wrong with me

>>19899940
>>19898558
Madness unironically enjoys cap-shit and rap.

>>19900274
cape-shit*

>>19897782
audiobookbay

>>19899999

Fuck bros, I find reading the cambridge history of Japan to be so fucking boring reading about burial sites, different soils and mastodons and shit
How the fuck am I ever going to write my magnum opus? I still got so many more books to go and I need to learn how to write

>>19900381
I went to a Jomon archeology site/museum in Aomori once. It was actually pretty lame but the people there were excited because I guess they never had a foreigner before.

>>19900043
>>19900196
a curved member... rises up? might be based

>>19900274
canadian trailer trash junkie
bakker was an absolute fool to trust him

>>19900447

>>19900480
>>19900447
>>19900274

stfu IamSp00ky, I'd take Madness over you any day, at least he's not a stalker

>>19900487

>>19900496
> "He's clearly not okay", etc
Literal gaslighting in the guise of being the bigger man. Madness1 wasn't acting particularly deranged, meanwhile you're total snake.

>>19900528
Let's not forget that you started the whole thing by badmouthing Madness out of nowhere:
https://old.reddit.com/r/bakker/comments/skpwdh/does_anyone_know_bakker/hvtkmt2/

>>19900528
Who do you think I am?

>>19900528
Reddit user IamSp00ky from that link.
Pretty sure most of the weird hateposting towards Madness is from him.
I don't know either him or Madness, but that thread is enough for me to dislike him.

>>19900585

>>19900487
>>19900585
There's no Karma here, honey. No need to deflect this hard. I couldn't give two fucks about any of you.

All I know is that TUC was overall poorly edited, and filled with typos that I've noticed on my first readthrough. I don't know how/where Bakker finds you people, but even I, and ESL, would do a better job than you.

>>19900624
Yeah, I that post is fine, despite you repeatedly trying to meme the idea that it's cringe

>>19900648
>despite you repeatedly trying to meme the idea that it's cringe
I didn't say a single word. Nice projection, though.

>>19900646
TUC was definitely poorly edited. But I'm not gonna go around stalking a guy about it 5 years later, who's not even a professional editor, just some guy.

You faggots need to go back to r*ddit.

New thread
>>19900659

>>19900662
And it’s derailed.

>And it’s derailed.

So Madness was the Bakker schizo in these threads all along.

>Madness that Comes After
LMAO

>>19900719
Predictable accusation

>>19900789
Predictable response. In the span of two words, you give yourself away.

>>19900789
Tell me, Madness1... Does it trouble you?

>>19900837
NoNo-God

>>19900789
Does it trouble you that anyone can look at your posts here, figure out who you probably are, and draw conclusions about your character? All 4chan threads are archived you know.

>>19900905 Was meant to be a response to >>19900822
I may be retarded at replying but I'm still not Madness.