/lit/ - Literature

>>19886186
Just be self sufficient in social circles, and be slightly antagonistic to women for comedy.

>>19886241
You're literally a god.

>>19886186
>Alexander Lowen
>"Born in New York City to Jewish immigrants"

>>19886241
I am, but when I am alone with women this is where the shitshow starts. I dunno what it is, but there is a void of manhood, or aggressiveness, or inherent feelings of shame to act as I am supposed to. In group-settings women throw all their attention to me, but alone I am self-castrated and treat women like adults.

>>19886295
Doesn't deny the validity of his works.

>>19886428
Do you have a control over your sexual urges?

>>19886448
I have too much control over them. I don't coom and whenever I am on a date I talk too much and try to find out if the girl is not completely inane like the other 99 % of girls. My approach is too intellectual, psychological, hence tame.

>>19886461
>and try to find out if the girl is not completely inane like the other 99 % of girls.
Shouldn't that already be clear if you're asking them on a date? It seems like you don't really know what you want from women, do you want to enjoy their company or just get sex?

>>19886517
>do you want to enjoy their company or just get sex?
I kind of want to fornicate but not play the typical schtick to get them into bed. Back in the day I kept it platonic until I met a virtuous virgin and the success rate was good. Now I want to be a whoremonger with standards, but all girls who are somewhat easy(ier) than a virgin have daddy or asshole-ex boyfriend issues, a game I could play but don't want to.

>>19886517
I forgot to mention, that after prolonged time of walking and talking, I regret wasting so much time with them. It feels like they draw knowledge and energy and time out of me and I get nothing in return. I feel that they want me to take what's mine, but it doesn't sit right with me, or at least I want to have more depth before I take it.

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>>19886428
sounds like you're confusing the constitutive lack that is actual masculinity for a hysterical need for female approval

>>19886530
>>19886577
It just sounds like you shouldn't spend time with women you don't really want to. If you're trying to use or befriend people for ulterior reasons which you consider more important than the sacrifices of any means (for example wasting time), then of course you're going to end up grovelling.

>>19886186
Manhood cannot be lost or you never had it

>>19886186
Guaranteed you are a faggot. I really think you are a faggot

>>19886186
Plato Symposium

Iron John by Robert Bly

>>19886461
when i was dating women i respect (beautiful, intellectual, artistic), i couldnt do any sex.
when accidentally running drunk into some fat ugly miserable hometown slut which i could stand in daylight, i had the greatest sex in my life which i cherish in my memory and fap to in my moments of darkness. shes married happily and wont see me no more.
So i guess thats how it is.

>>19887646
You are right, but I lack female contact completely, so I have to see one every once in a while.

>>19889517
Try getting some female friends, just women you enjoy talking to and add something to the friend group. Have your jokes sometimes verge on flirting and that kind of thing (though no real desire or expectation for such a relationship), it's a fun thing.

>>19889556
I don't enjoy talking to women, they are all vapid and stupid. I met exactly two women my age who were the exception, all the rest feel like a waste of my time.

>>19889616
That's why when you do meet women you enjoy being around, it's very fun and enlightening. The two variants being the ones you do desire to date and the ones you do not.

But in general you should learn to love female nature. Don't expect them to be men.

>>19889650
Truly, truly, I lost my love for women. Two years ago I wouldn't be bothered by it.

>>19889710
>I lost my love for women.
I can perfectly understand this state of mind, but as something chronic I must recommend you find a cure for your social health.

>>19886186
yet a man made this

>>19889724
I know. Life feels very limited with the lack of love for women. Maybe re-reading the psycholojew books will help.

>>19889745
Honestly you could just try looking at erotic images (ideally without cooming, at least before the desire reaches the peak of its intensity), and building up that energy from the low. From the purely sexual to the romantic.

>>19889810
I did this a couple years ago but it doesn't work on me. Over time I developed a strong disdain for whores, any woman who poses for photos.

>>19889821
I thought it might not work. In my experience a lack of libido has never been accompanied by a total dislike of women.

You might just have your dreams as the most direct pathway to reaching a more normal state. If the Jungian theory of opposites is true, your unconscious should be making up for the lack in consciousness and communicating this in dreams. Any female figures in your dreams anon?

>>19889821
If the thread's still up, I'll reply tomorrow.

>>19889842
>Any female figures in your dreams anon?
Lately, not at all. Most of the time I dream about situations and people from the distant past, the feelings are mostly neutral, slightly negative or slightly positive. There is no central female figure.

>>19886295
Hey you stop that
Lowen is a very cool and based Jew
He stood up for big cummies and healthy holistic shakies

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>>19890152
He is not based but his observations about the perfect heterosexual behavior are unsurpassed in modern literature.