/lit/ - Literature

King of /sffg/.

Simple as.

The anons here don't want to discuss on 4chan, discord, goodreads, or anywhere else. Reddit has more activity if only because there so many more posters, but it's not like it's that much better in quality or even that it'd be the sort of discussion you'd prefer. The simple fact of the matter is that no one wants to discuss in any meaningful way. The reason why is simple. Discussion takes time and effort that most anyone would rather be doing something else instead. Anything else really. Few people seem to care for discussion in of itself. Imagine sincerely caring about what others post aside from your own emotional reaction to it.

Sure, some posts may garner replies, but those replies are all about the poster, not the post. When someone is posting for the purpose of internally and/or externally screaming, "AWWW YEAAAAH, FEELS GOOD MAN TO TELL THAT POSTER HOW STUPID THEY ARE!" or other similar nonsense that's not discussion. This post as well is no different. It's about my reaction. You need to understand that the purpose is to be anonymous twitter. Short bursts of nonsense that you fire and forget and intermittent casual trolling and limitless loads of masturbatory ejaculations

Don't reply to this post. Whatever you have to say doesn't matter to me, you, or anyone else. This post stands alone on its own. Not that anyone is doing any more than glancing through it anyway ~~~~~||||////\\\\\\|||||~~~~~ Oh, did that get your attention? Stop reading. Read it all or none at all. Don't like that? I don't care and you shouldn't either. That's one of your problems, you don't know when to stop reading posts that aren't of any value.

Can anything be done about any of this? Yes, of course it can. Will anything be done? No, of course not, why would there be? There's no incentive for anyone. We're all doing it for free and we're the content. If you don't think you are, then ask yourself, is anyone profiting from you being here? Yes, there is. If there wasn't, then this site wouldn't be.

Even so, what are you, or anyone else, going to do about it? Nothing. Nothing at all, ever. There isn't anything wrong with that. Sometimes you just have to give up and give in and no longer care. Once you do so, you can being the process of becoming free.

Would you even want to be free? No. So really it's a terminal phase, but by the time you realize that it won't mean anything to you. Nothing will.

No matter how much you suffer, you fear living even more.

>>19875114
>Using Yotsuba B theme.
Holy cringe.

>>19875130
>Everything about your post
Yikes, sincerely.

I've put it off long enough. I need to type into the void about this book and fruitlessly recommend it. I am on book 3 (of 4) now.
It's about a high-tech society regressing back to preindustrial era and the assorted remnants of humanity using what they know to get back on their feet, with two primary factions; the 'good guys' main HQ was originally a small area ran by reenactors, who held a regular Renn Fair, turned into a growing refugee town. The 'main' figurehead of the story had the equivalent of a doctorate in polisci as well as... something involving war tactics/stratagem so he is quite literally the most knowledgable general alive, and I've been liking the subtle 300IQ power plays.
The book is sf with a tinge of fantasy, well-researched and articulated. Hell, it's the first fiction book I've ever read where I've cared about, or became immersed into the politics and structure of military. In this series, chain of command and discipline is being taught from the ground up since it's all a hodge-podge.
>no censorship of any subject, even rape is discussed casually in context as one plot point revolves around setting up counseling for raped-by-bandits victims
>another plot point revolving around body-regulating nannites failing post-Fall and women having to experience menstruation, which hasn't occurred naturally for at least a millennia, and the subsequent logistics of taking cotton/silk resources from elsewhere
>a burgeoning intel group developing with one character calling its leader a "spook" in passing (intel guy is fucking cool though)
>crazy dude who Changed himself into a dwarf, to mine a refilled mountain with natural resources and a hardened material as an adamantine-equivalent
>lots of Changed individuals so you have beast/mer/avian-creatures popping up
>yes, dragon-girls
>bad reviews on goodreads because muh soggy knees

>>19875166
>makes fun of his first book in his second book (pic related)
>good humor and self-awareness
>first book was written in 2003
>underage dude bones a 1000 year old elf in the first book

Here's the guy who Changed himself into a dorf
>>Two centuries before Angus Peterka had gotten so enraptured by the traditional image of dwarves that he had Changed and started his own dwarf colony in the Steel Hills of Sylva. The hills had been mined out millennia before, but in the last half a millennia most of the materials had been reimplanted under a long-term ecological rebuilding program or through dumping into the hollowed out mines. He had added materials that were not original to the mountains, streams of silver, various jewels, gold and, deep, deep in the mountain a nanotech-based material that he had decided met the conditions for adamantine. All of the material was put in with a semirandom generator and for the last two centuries he'd been trying to find it all. He referred to it as "proper mining," his friends referred to it as "the world's largest scavenger hunt." Other "dwarves" came and went, but Angus stayed on, propping shafts, finding veins and quaffing beer.

It's a fun story.

In the modern day do there still exist publications like Amazing Stories or Science Fiction Quarterly that exist to collect and introduce short stories from various authors, both up-and-coming and already established?

>>19875166
>>19875198
>rape
>counseling
>women
>menstruations
>trannys
>tranny-girls
the state of /sffg/

Well /sffg/, which ones is your favorite?

>>19875211
2016+ newfags can see their way out.

>>19875130
you use something different?

>>19875216
>>>/lgbt/

>>19875211
You clearly must be new here.

>>19875224
Hey thanks for the bumps to my book rec, newfag.

>>19875211
Does it trouble you?

>>19875229
what is sage

>>19875225
Not new. Regarding tranny problem, trannys, fags and janny should be gassed.

>>19875237
Thanks for the bumps to my book rec, 2016+ newfag.

>>19875237
>Making this post while shilling RI.
Some jokes do write themselves, unironically.

>>19875236
It is disgusting.

>>19875237
Why post pic related when Reverend insanity is filled with homoerotic themes and gay sex, though?

>>19875215
R.A.Salvatore.
Wait, no, L.Ron Hubbard!

Still waiting for the chart.

I know there's one, shitters. I can't find it.

>>19875215
Based and accurate pilled.
I like them all, but if I had to pick, it would have to be Bakker, although he sits on the shoulders of giants.

>>19875222
Obviously, I don't want to go blind.

>>19875097
Where is this pasta from?

>>19875289
It isn't.

Any modern pulp anthologies worth checking out? Plan on dipping my toes into collecting some to have stuff to read for work. I've found short story collections and anthologies are ideal for short bursts between dealing with people.

>>19875208
Been wondering this myself. I've come across a few that I intend to check out. It's always nice to have stuff on-hand.

>>19875166
The cover art is a put off for me but strategy talk appeals to me. Would it be fair to say it's a light/breezy read or is it a Sandersnoy tier epic in length?

>>19875093
A little over halfway though pic related since review anon praised it last week and my opinion of it has only gone up. Characters, setting, and magic are extremely well thought out and the story is fairly constrained being almost totally set within a single city so far, with very grounded characters. I'm also really impressed with the author's ability to write women, not in "girl boss" or "based misogynistic" ways but just really genuine feeling to my experience.

>>19875356
Sincerely doubt it, but Ok.

Recommending an underrated standalone novel by David Gemmel. Dark Moon, a fantasy novel with a cool sci-fi twist.

>>19875395
The first book is 500something pages, book two is 400something, and the final two books are 300-400something. I wouldn't say the content is light/breezy--some parts, yes--but it isn't a doorstopper.

>>19875395
Looks like the Elantris cover.

Did that guy working on the /sffg/ gigafilter ever post his list?

>>19875208
You can find the occasional anthology trying to harken back to old pulp magazines.

Has anyone read Gwynne's new series? I found his Faithful and the Fallen novels pretty mediocre, but I might give this a shot.

>>19875426
Yes.

>>19875440

>>19875446
No.

>>19875450
O-ok

>>19875419
Both published by TOR so possibly it's a style guide thing or even same artist, though a quick Google search didn't make it clear to me that was the case

Which ones should I avoid? Already read Bakker and Martin.

>>19875521
Good intentions. It quickly devolves into cuckshit that the MC not only allows but is proud of.

>>19875403
Yes, I know you would, that's what I wrote.

>>19875426
I did, but I can't be bothered to look in the archive for it, and anyway I just did that for as a meme on a whim. It's not something I'm using right now, though only because I accidentally cleared it all out while testing something. I also have it on the computer somewhere. Really, you ought to just make your own custom one. I thought about doing a lite version that was Bakker terms only, but meh.

>>19875521
Read Demon Chains. Not on the list but it is a book where, in the first chapter, two dudes get raped by another dude with the help of a demon. It's the only sff I've come across where the bad guy ends up raping only dudes/boys.
It's fun. The pacing is good. Second book in a series but you don't strictly need to read the first book to understand it. I'd say the biggest flaw is the MC being Not!Batman but considering the content, it's funny with the author being a devour Christian guy. It's also a relatively short read.

>>19875528
What about the rest, anything good?

>>19875406
Echoes of the Great Song was also good.

>>19875551
>devour Christian guy
Vorephilles For Christ

hmmm

>>19875645

Bakker definitely has a rape fetish but do you think he fantasizes about raping or being raped?

>>19875645
He's wrestling with Sarcellus, right?

I'm sad. I thought I had found a goldmine with science fiction magazines. Then it turns out many of them contain semi-pornographic pictures like pic related. Why do they do this? Galaxy and Sky Worlds have it. Worlds of Tomorrow I haven't seen it.

I'm sad. I thought I had found a goldmine with science fiction magazines. Then it turns out many of them contain semi-pornographic pictures like pic related. Why do they do this? Galaxy and Sky Worlds have it. Worlds of Tomorrow I haven't seen it.

>a game where everyone pretends to play ball until some diva catches a little golden fucker making the rest of the team's effort a waste
Are there any fantasy games that make sense?

>>19875776
forgot pic

>>19875776
>Are there any fantasy games that make sense?
Yes, Benjuka.

>>19875095
simple as what?

>>19875819
As your brain.

>>19875652
he's a massive bottom, it's the being raped that's the turn on for him

Is an Interzone subscription worth it? I bought one of the magazines on a whim and the stories were all enjoyable if not notable.

>>19875849
>Reading fandom magazines
>Paying a subscription for it nonetheless.
I don't know which one is worse.

>>19875834
Are you sure? People who lack any form of respect, authority, competence, or acceptance by peers in their day to day life usually desire those things sexually and therefore take the dominant position, whereas billionaire CEOs and politicians desire the opposite and wind up getting pegged by dominatrices and the like. Bakker may be a member of the former group.

>>19875849
Lots of magazines for free here
http://www.luminist.org/archives/SF/

>>19875776
Rowling has gone on record stating she invented a nonsense sport with bad rules specifically to upset men as she was going through a bad breakup at the time.

>>19875876
>Using real life retcons to virtue signaling.
I'm glad that transphobe got cancelled, ngl.

How’s clive barker? Should I start with Weaveworld or Imajica?

>>19875215

>>19875893
It's on the GRI chart, so I'm also curious.

>>19875876
I mean you make a good point, why am I complaining about a game created by a woman. All the sports women play were created by men. To be fair, I think it's a creative game. It just needs balance, more rules, boundaries of play, and an explanation for how nobody dies or destroys their Johnson sitting on a fucking stick.

>>19875905
>game created by a woman.
>or destroys their Johnson sitting on a fucking stick.
Some unintended puns write themselves.

>>19875876
>a nonsense sport with bad rules specifically to upset men
The joke is on her, I play Blood Bowl and love it!

>>19875871
Thank you much.
>>19875862
Admittedly I haven't read much Interzone, but so far they've all been separate short stories.

>>19875944
I just don't understand why you people are not selective with what you choose to read. Don't you have any self respect? The amount of shit you get in those magazines is just bad more often than not.

>>19875731
whats the problem?

>>19875956
I'll be the first to admit that until recently I've lived in complete ignorance of the wider literary community, especially sci fi. And the Interzone stories usually have more interesting concepts than good execution. I do have Borges on my night stand for when I finish my current book.

>>19875956
I asked a few times itt for recommendations of short stories. Didn't get any replies. The The Twilight Zone episode To See The Invisible man was based on the short story by the same name in pic related. And many famous authors have written stories in sci-fi magazines.

>>19875731
Which sex and age demographic do you imagine used to buy and read pulp scifi and fantasy? There's your answer.

I am looking for a dark fantasy series with intense battles, pitch black lore, highly intellectual themes that dovetail into real world philosophy, poignant character psychology, and just a hint of Lovecraftian horror. Is there anything out there like this?

>>19875862
its not like theres any professional magazines out there anymore

>>19876038
Redwall series, by Brian Jacques.

>>19876038

>>19875977
I want intellectual stimulation, not porn

>>19876038
A song of ice and fire?

>>19876038
The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe has all that and more friend. It runs circles around any kind of half-baked mishmash of Tolkein, McCarthy, and Herbert that was written by a godless bugman with a rape fetish you may have heard about in this general.

>>19876071

>>19876071
check out the barsoom series

>>19876081
The Book of the New Sun is not very good, though.

>>19876038
I'm assuming this is a joke, but if not, you're basically describing Bakker's Second Apocalypse

>>19876110
This. The flower duel was the gayest shit I’ve ever read.

>>19876110
You're right anon. BotNS isn't just good, it's not just very good, why it's absolutely incredible, just positively wondrous. I feel so sorry for those who can't handle Wolfe's genius, they get confused and lash out in rage at this simple fact, unable to accept that they've been filtered. Truly a tragic end. Oh well...

>>19876126
I wasn’t asking.

>>19876131
No you weren't. You were, and are, seething however.

>>19876038
The Bible, unironically.

>>19876125
Lmao
Is this true?

>>19875093
Recommend me fantasy for an alternate history enthusiast

>>19876153
Not that anon, but what version of the bible would lend itself to that kind of reading (for an English reader?

>>19876299
King James Version

What's the best /sffg/ book from your country?

Am I a massive idiot if I can't get into Wolfe? I've tried the new sun series and I tried wizard knight. There are interesting ideas there but I felt like I had to re read every paragraph 3 times to fully understand it. Idk maybe I'm just an dumbo, but it wasn't enjoyable.

Anyone read Shatterday by Harlan Ellison? What is the meaning of it?

>>19876492
Don't try to understand, just read.

>>19876492
Stop skimming.

>>19876492
Read all of Proust then try again

>>19876045
lol

Started Princess of Mars. Liked the bit with the Injuns but once the main guy got to Mars the book started feeling fucking retarded. Does it get better?

>>19877064
I've always thought about reading this

Finished Aspect-Emperor series. I wish Bakker was better at creating satisfying endings for his characters, instead of drowning himself in phallus descriptions, world building gone amok and philosophical mumbo-jumbo.

Any good fantasy with Hindu mythology

>>19877310
Just read the hindu epics.

>>19876071
Do you know what porn actually is? This is not even erotica.

>>19877310
No. Horrible prose and/or Rick Riordan imitators.

>>19877311
Agreed. The Ramayana and especially the Mahabharata in their entirety are inaccessible for casuals though, if you just want to learn about basic Hindu mythology you might be better off with secondary texts like Devdutt Pattanaik's Sita.

>>19875731
>>19876071
You shouldn't be reading pulp magazines then.

>>19875215
None of em. Picrel.

>>19876193
It is.

>>19876299
This one. Don't cuck yourself into buying the King James. It leaves a lot of stories out.

peter watts

I fucking hate LitRPG garbage.

>It's actually good.
I wasn't ready for this, lads.

>>19877841
No you were too busy getting ready to choke on dick, faggot.

>>19877841
Keep reading, it's only uphill from there.

https://youtu.be/owr6FvvEeY0
Based on Shatterday by Harlan Ellison

https://youtu.be/d-Bamw4mmQw
Based on To See The Invisible Man by Robert Silverberg

https://youtu.be/kCnhBcwnP50
Based on Nightcrawlers by Robert McCammon

very organic bakkerposting guys keep it up

>>19877911
Obsessed.

>>19875552
I liked the Steel Remains books. Read the first one half a dozen times, the second one two times, and have to re-read the last one antoher time.

>>19878216
I liked it too. Despite having a faggot MC, it featured less anal sex than Bakker's books. And far fewer curved phalluses.

>>19878320
Does it have hard gay?

>>19875893
Weaveworld is more accessible and less weird than Imajica, in my opinion. This could also be because I was a teenager when I read Imajica and read it in German, so some things might have been lost in translation or whatever, while I read Weaveworld in my thirties in English.
I'd still start with Weaveworld

>>19878320
>>19878340
There's also lesbian and hetero sex in it.

>>19878383
Ordering it now.

>>19878391
Lesbian sex starts in volume 2

What happened to Jim Butcher?

>>19877827
don't read them then
I, however, will continue to support them, ensuring their long and continued existence.

>>19875406
>David Gemmell
Is it just me or has there been an increased interest in his works lately?

>>19878405
Only care about the gay parts.

>>19875521
seriously, fuck good intentions

My name is Bakker and I'm here to say
That I'm going to rap in an eliminativist way
Word on the street
Your soul is just meat
Attempts to disprove
Are met with defeat
See it doesn't really matter what you feel
Because your inner experience isn't real
See here's the thing
You're a puppet on a string
Completely enslaved by your conditioning
It's a truth that you can't escape
God is long dead
And neuroscience rises in its stead
Going full hard-gay
Is the only KINO way

>>19878515
HOLY BASED

TRUTH SHINES

What books are you reading for black history month /sffg/?

>>19878568

>>19878547
the massive closet fag cope that is posing with cheap prostitutes for photos.

>>19878695
You sound jealous.

>>19878704
Why? Even a minimum wage part time burger flipper could afford to pose with better looking whores than that!
And I have a traditionally masculine job that pays a fair bit more.

>>19878723
stop replying to ameribakkers

what is the best sci-fi book you have read? I need something to read, no meme answers please

>>19878816
Dune.

>>19878723
>I have a traditionally masculine job
You do gay porn? That explains a lot.

>>19878723
What an incredibly massive cope. I bet you didn't even finish college.

>>19878864
>I bet you didn't even finish college.
I wish. It was only after wasting the time and money that I facepalmed and realized that STEM can be had for free at a library.

>>19878482
His books are based, easy, fun, b-tier popcorn action flick kino that tend not to outstay their welcome. Gemmell also tells stories, he doesn't write wikia entries, and the sword and sorcery style of fantasy is naturally popular, unlike the commercially forced epic kidn that you'll find shilled endlessly both in these threads and anywhere fantasy novels are discussed.

>>19878941
>Couldn't even finish college.
kek

>>19877841
What moment hooked you anon?

>>19879004
You will never be a doctor.
You will never be a scientist.
You will never be an engineer.

Simple as.

>>19879008
Meds. Now.

>>19879014
Cope, brainlet.

Bakker supports trudeau. Don't read his books.

>>19878941
You sound just like a trumplet chud, ngl.
I bet you're anti-vax too.

Yikes.

can we rangeban americans yet

>>19878495
Any other sf with gay parts you've enjoyed? I need more

>>19879054
Bakker, although not much romance in it. And Game of Thrones. But you probably knew those already. There's more here >>19875521, but I haven't read them all yet.

>>19875260
Here are some books.

>>19879054
Ignore my >>19879063 post, you probably want science fiction.

>>19879063
>And Game of Thrones
gay parts in asoaif? i don't remember any

>>19879071
Pretty sure there were, but I'm maybe I'm just mixing the books with the show now, it was a long time ago.

>>19879077
none in books. that was the show. martin keeps the gay shit pretty down low. doesn't even directly acknowledge gay characters.

>>19879065
Why does your list have books that are midway in a series instead of the first book?

>>19879092
It's not my list.

>>19878941
What a massive projection, buddy.

>>19878547
I wish that was me.

>>19879000
>>19879036
>>19879122
So defensive. So triggered.

>>19879226
>No arguments
I accept your concession.

>>19879232
We already knew you were illiterate, faggot, or you wouldn't be sucking that bakker cock.

>>19879226
Did we trigger you, collegelet?

>>19879251
This is about what I expected of woke reading comprehension.

>>19879251
We clearly did. Imagine not having a college degree and bragging about having a "traditional male job". I bet he's working as a used car salesman.

>>19879273
>We clearly did.
You're clearly triggered about the feminism and diversity in all your classes being pointed out.
And all of you still lack the basic reading comprehension necesary to understandsimple english, so I'll put it here in bold:
WHEN I RESPONDED TO YOUR INITIAL ACCUSATION WITH
"IT WAS ONLY AFTER WASTING MY TIME"
THAT PRETTY FUCKING CLEARLY TELLS YOU I HAVE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT
AFTER BEING THE OPERATIVE WORD
Fucking christ you stupid fucking children, learn how to read.

Not my problem.

>>19879052
honestly can't come soon enough

Holy shit, why is this pathetic cuck so triggered?

Can we go back to sff?

>cyberpunk horror
does such a book(s) exist?

>>19879331
cyberpunk is horror

>>19879333
For you.

>>19879331
Real life.

>>19879329
>Can we go back to sff?
can you all stop sucking bakker faggot cock yet? no? then no, you may not.

>>19879063
Not really interested in having too much romance anyway. Bakker it is, then.

>>19879333
well more okay "techno-horror" then

>>19879357
I would avoid /sffg/ for a while if I were you, either that or make a big filter, as you will find a lot of spoilers here.

>>19879092
None of those books are midway, are you off your meds?

>>19879376
existential, or like... techno spooky ghosts kind of horror

>>19875166
>>19875198
Bumping my book rec thread amidst shitposting power hours. I should have wrote it directly after I finished book 1, that way events would have been fresher in my mind.

>>19879329
There's one or two guys here who seem to have some sort of unhealthy obsession over a certain prolific author in the genre.

>>19879388
>thread
whoops lol

>>19879388
How much Gay sex was there in the book?

>>19875395
>>19875419
>>19875466
Yeah they are

>>19879398
should I read this?

>>19879389
>prolific
Only ever seen his talentless ugly faggot mug in two places, here and screenshots of reddit.
simple as.

>>19879400
Maybe. It's probably "peak" Sanderson. If you don't like it, you'll probably never enjoy anything else written by him.

>>19879400
I've not read it yet, people say it's shit but it sounds interesting.

>>19879402
Is this because he's more attractive than you? Jesus Christ, either post your own mug here or let go. Literally no one else in the thread cares. Why don't you go to his sub-reddit to shit on him instead of derailing the thread?

>>19879386
either or really

>>19879400

FeEd Me YoUr SiNs

>>19879400
Would you trust this man?

>>19879423
female protags?

>>19879397
Zero. Plenty of hetero sex in the background.

>>19879407
Emperor's Soul was a better Elantris-relavant book, if only for the sheer fact that it was shorter so Sanderson couldnt pad it out.

TELL ME!

WHAT - DO - YOU - SEE!?

>>19879423
I hate novellas and after mistborn and I don't want another female protag sanderson book.

is foundation a good book?

>>19879443
Shallan was 100 times worse than Vin.

>>19879457
they're all bad

>>19879423
You know, I'd agree with that image.
His newer Stormlight novella, Dawnshard, was amusing because one dude's Windrunner ascension revelation involved telling THE Lopen to shut the fuck up sometimes.

How many of these you faggets read?
What is good and what is not?

>>19879459
I agree. Navani and Jasnah were probably amongst the worst female characters I've ever read in fantasy.
>>19879461
picrel is all anyone needs to now.

do NOT FUCKING WRITE FEMALE PROTAGONISTS
just stop
STOP I SAID

>>19879417
>Seething because this handsome man is more attractive than him.
Many such cases.

>>19879470
Library of Mount Char and Choice of Magic is not gamelit/isekai. Shit list.

>>19879497
but are they cuck shit?

>>19879478
>mogs your male protag a handful of chapters in

>>19879407
>>19879431
He's a wealth of knowledge, uploads classes that those mormon shits pay big money for. He's talented, albeit too simplistic with his prose. He loves his twists like shama-lamma-ding-dong. I plowed through all 6 of those mistborn books. Well of Ascension is the best written and Final Empire had the best plot. The rest are a drop in quality. I realized though by the time I was in Era 2 he keeps talking about this Cosmere shit. I realize where this is going. It's all a marvel cinematic universe. I don't like all this divine God business and interplanetary connection. Not only does it give me creepy LDS vibes but it's cringe and retarded. Now I'm to the point where I don't even want to check out Way of Kings because now I know they there will probably be some more God related interplanetary cosmere shit. I'll probably Read Elantris at some point and move on. He needs to go back to his roots and focus on stories that are more grounded like Final Empire.

>>19879497
The chick in Library goes into that dimension a lot (another realm), the friend of the goddamn cat also travels to get his piss from another dimension among other things, he also has an extra dimensional pocket dimension to store his goods.

Did we read the same books, or did you skim like usual?

>>19879532
So we're pretending that... what, dimension/world-hopping is now gamelit/isekai? Or is this another obtuse disingenuous post?

>>19879527
Not really.

>>19879527
Talent doesn't exist. And Sanderson is predictably formulaic.
Cosmere idea was good before he decided to
>drag on the entire meta
>turn the Cosmere into a brand
Reminder that Kelsier is in Fortnite lol

>>19879553
I agree with most of those points other than I think he needs to write Standalones because he's too bloated with his stories. Why is that person criticizing his lack of stand alone and then complaining about no sequels to Elantris and Warbreaker? Isn't them "standing alone" what makes those books decent?

>>19879567
>complaining about no sequels to Elantris and Warbreaker?
We've been supposed to get the sequels since the late 2000s.

>>19879500
I only read Choice of magic. Series starts out well but quickly turns into garbage. It is not isekai but it is progressive sjw garbage.

>>19879488
>bakker faggots are actually faggots for bakker

>>19879559
But I mean this guy put out Elantris and Mistborn must have been perceived as extremely talented in the late 00s. Then I'm guessing after he finished Mistborn trilogy he became a sellout and copied the Marvel formula.

>>19879500
Nah.
>>19879590
As I said, he became formulaic, predictably repetitive. Stormlight started out well enough, albeit obscenely lengthy and padded, but it went to shit real fast after book 2. Not to mention some other notable occurrences like him spicing all his books with Mormonism influence (e.g., skirting around the topic of sex). Either way, he's got a cushy position, connections, and is too big to fall.

>>19879606
Funny you say skirting around the topic of sex. His Mistborn books had no sex and then out of nowhere in Bands of Mourning the horny Mormon's writing started to slip out. It reminded me of Frank Herbert in the latter half of his Dune books. Characters start having sex and frequently talking about boobs.

Can a kind soul link me to a decent length fantasy audiobook with some kind of heartwarming romance in it, an adventure but no edge or other cynical cringe? I have incredible pain in my eyes and I need something to soothe myself while I lay with my head bandaged.

>>19879632

about to marathon all 21 sword of truth novels. wish me luck

>>19879638
I was thinking too long but you know what, fuck yeah I might as well. Unless someone has another suggestion

>>19879662
Cheers

>>19879470
>Heretic Spellblade
Ironically, without the gratuitous sex it would have been much better.

>>19879643
If you finish them all you'll come out a changed man

I don't like any isekai. I don't even like Alice in Wonderland. I think isekai is for lame niggas who want to self insert and wish that was them, or for authors that can't think of a real story or a real way to explain their world outside of having the character go "aha, I know how to solve this problem" or "man, this isn't how it works back where I come from"

>>19879684
>Size queen goat girls

>>19879739
You just convinced me to read this series

>>19879728
I hate isekai too

>>19879752
how big's your dick though

>>19879782
It's big enough for a goat. I checked.

>>19879801
It's a demon goat girl

I can't wait for the next book to be published.

>>19879728
>>19879778
Isekais hate you too

>>19879585
>faggots
there is literally nothing gay about wanting to fuck your favorite author.

>>19879857
Good. Fuck 'em. I'll fuck up any isekai author I see.

>>19879868
They will fuck you too.

How do I write like Bakker?

>>19879866
This, but unironically

>>19879914
Do you have a curved Phallus? If not, then there's no hope for you.

>>19879925
I unironically have a curved dick. Is there hope for me?

>>19879585
Does it trouble you?

>>19879928
only if you cut it off

>>19879914
You stuff your mouth full of cock

>>19879470
I unironically read The Celestine Chronicles for the story. The monster girl sex scenes were just a bonus.

>>19879728
So you dislike Narnia, Thomas Covenant, Wizard Knight, River World, Wizard of Oz, Coraline, The Neverending Story, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court?

>>19879960
Is that why your English is so bad?
Is your mouth filled with curved phallusese?
That explains a lot.

>>19879967
I liked the spin off with the mountain king.
That turned out to be like two sides of the same coin.
One is seen as a saviour, the other a devil.

>>19875097
strange that I come across this post from the front page
feels very relevant, I do wonder why I even come to this site anymore, it isn't to discuss that's for certain, why discuss trivialities like fiction and games when I've formed my own opinion on them?
its probably just to create the illusion of not being so alone, and that I'm "doing something" to pass the time, when I'm not
why am I here what the fuck is the point of this anymore

>>19879980
I tried getting into it, but I was put off by the main character. The guy was way too edgy to take seriously.

>>19879968
Yes.

>>19879981
go back. I would never sacrifice my anonymity and engage in a conversation controlled by upvotes.

>>19879981
Because in sea of irrelevant and troll posts once in a while you can come across something interesting that will picue your interest, same with books, not so much with games

Is the witcher better than a song of ice and fire?

>>19880102
Based

>>19880113
I wouldn't know because I don't read non-english books.

>Didn't even last one day.
Bakkerchads, we won!

What do you think of the superhero gender in fantasy books? I didn't like the Sanderson take on it but it's valid, somebody, I want to write my own superhero meets magic saga

any
protagonist suddenly discovers he has super powers in a super hero world
absolute masturbatory books?

>>19880113
Very different, hard to compare. Better as fantasy maybe. Tempted to say more imaginative. But GRRM's ability to weave a believable setting with oddly deep characters together despite being essentially lowbrow schlock is pretty fucking imaginative in its own right.

There's some video essay on the books and the games by some reddit faggot, superbunnyhop i think. You could watch 10 mins of that and decide.

>>19880113
A Song of Ice and Fire is a good series. The Witcher is not. Don't you have HBO/Netflix?

>>19880102
I only browse here, if I am starting to wonder why I am even still here, why in the fuck would you imagine for one moment I'd like a place that this place shits on in every single respect? seriously, think before posting

>>19880103
that's true, that is probably why. the occasional gem makes it worth it. come across stuff on here I never would otherwise

>>19880183
Both are shit, but witcher is worse, if they weren't shit they would not be on kike tv

>>19880152
Vin could have been gender swapped, that's how masculine she was.

>>19880199
>>19879981
Nice blogpost.

How do I unsubscribe?

>>19880221
you click the X symbol on the corner of the window

>>19880199
Go somewhere else and make a blog about how we live in your head rent free.

>>19880209
>someone recommended sanderson
>open new tab
>google sanderson
>wiki link comes up
>check the first book, plot
>characters:
>Vin: A teenage street urchin who discovers that she
>close tab immediately

>>19880262
are you me?

>>19880199
No one cares, fuck off.

>>19880262
This is everything you need to know.

>>19880273
How do adults read this?

>>19880262
I think Sandersoy writes good characters, my problem is that all his protagonists are super cool guys who want everything to be guy, even a former war criminal is a good guy because he regrets it lol

>>19880262
based
female protagonists were a mistake

>>19880301
>I think Sandersoy writes good characters
No, he really doesn't. That's actually one of his greatest flaws.

>>19880301
everything to be good*

>>19878340
Bakker does harder gay, of course. The MC has romantic homosex with a few people, but he spends most of his time killing everyone. And the alien negress has some lesbo sex too, I think. It's been a while. Still, a good read despite the perversions.

>>19880301
I think Sanderson is kind of ok at world building but the problem emerges the moment characters begin talking or thinking which is where everything goes to shit. magic systems are pretty scuffed too desu

>>19880352
Unironically on point.

His biggest problem is his obsession with his massive outlines. Character have very little to no agency in his worlds and are just waiting for shit to happen. He also can't write politics for shit.

Anyone else is trying to write his own fantasy saga? We know you want it, but we also know you never are going to publish your book, just like me.

>>19880481
I want to start typing a book if I can ever get out of my shit living situation and get a proper desk so I can type for long periods of time.

>>19880481
Fuck off to /wg/ >>19872358

>>19880489
I can't write linearly. My writing is just doing random parts of the books I have on my mind and later united them together

>>19880481
>>19880489
I wish other anons would share their drafts with me. I have no aspirations at being a writer, I can't write jack shit.
But I'm a good critic. I truly am.

Why do the modern covers of Heinlein's books look like 21st century YA novels? It alwasy throws me off when I browse my recommendations.

>>19880504
Here, review this random piece of my writings

https: //docs .google. com/document/d/1GxumIAwQgN5H8x8_FUJEPef40eZcSe8BCN8IFMSA88w/edit?usp=sharing

>>19880504
>>19880576
Fuck off to /wg/ >>19872358

>>19880576
Not him, but why do you use spaces on links? Does 4chan do something without them?

>>19880576
googledocs links aren't censored or filtered lol

Is this worth reading?

>>19880640
Read it and find out.

>>19875093
You eunuch

>>19880641
Why would I?

>>19880645
k, don't read it then

>>19880649
That doesn't answer my question.

>>19880653
Read it and find out.

>>19880653
no it doesn't indeed.

>>19880273
Read Cradle instead

>>19880580
>>19880594
my bad lol

new thread
>>19880668

>>19880672
And it’s derailed.

>>19880128
Just because a man has other things going on in his life you losers think I stopped?
You're even more retarded then you think I am.

>And it’s derailed.

>>19880683
>You're even more retarded then you think I am.
>then
Some jokes write themselves.

>>19880640
Yes. If you're the type of person who knows it exists, you will enjoy it.

>>19880697
>If you're the type of person who knows it exists, you will enjoy it.
I don't know what this means, but t-thanks?

>>19878482
As it should be.

>>19879967
Well I enjoy this if I enjoyed Malazan?

>>19880675
Good

>>19880683
>Calling others retarded.
>Can't write.

Like pottery.

>>19880742
Yes.

>>19880520
At least its not as bad as pic related.

>>19880755
Sweet.

>>19880745
Faggots like is why /sffg/ is dying.

>>19880855
Not my problem.

>>19880860
Fuck off back to r*ddit already.

>>19880874
Didn't ask.

>>19880675
>>19880855
They come from a discord. They don't give a shit.

>>19880891
of course it's americanism infecting this general, fucking great

>>19880891
>discord
Should have known.

>>19880891
>They come from a discord.
>"If If say this enough times it will eventually become true."
Unless you point to said discord, it didn't happen.

>>19880903
not my problem

>>19880855
/sffg/ has been dead for some time. Not that I'm in favor of it but this isn't some new thing. It's near impossible to have civil discussion anywhere on 4chan anymore.

>>19880904
Then don't bitch about it so much.

>>19880910
didn't ask

>>19880903
There is no discord. It's just copium.

>>19880903
How new are you? They posted the link. Its in the archives.

>>19880934
Not my problem.

>>19880122
The answer is no but you're a fucking midwit. Translations do exist and some of them actually are quite good, The Remembrance of Earth's Past is one of my favorites and the translation is top notch. The guy who did the translation is a pretty good author himself. Crazy to me someone would actively choose to narrow their choices of books to read for no good reason other than just being an idiot.

>>19880948
Translations are shit.

>>19880903
Literally check the archives, retard.
JvUMZjq

>>19880953
You don't need to bump the thread, newfriend. We're autosaging.

>>19880953

>>19880934
>>19880956
It's also in the goodreads group. It's full of normalfags (big surprise!) who talk about their relationshits.

>>19880959
Didn't ask.

>>19880959
>Seething monlingual amerisharter
Many such cases.

>>19878568
Moon Witch, Spider King by Marlon James when it comes out later this month. The first book of the series impressed me a lot so I have high hopes and I'm pretty sure this one will deliver.

>>19880977
>monlingual
AND a crossboarder, yuck

>>19880980
>Imagine speaking more than one language
No need to be so triggered.

>americans
lol, lmao even

>>19880948
The writer wrote the books in Polish. I don't speak Polish. A translation would not have the same craft that the Polish author wrote. Therefore, I'm not going to pretend to read a version of the book that isn't his. Same reason I'm not going to read Don Quixote because I don't read in Spanish. If I was tasked with studying the book for a particular book that's one thing, but I prefer English writers for fiction because I like to read the actual words they wrote.

>>19877064
i like it