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Reminder that Plato and stoicism (and philosophy in general) is Semitic

> Plato, who was, more than any other, an anti-Hellene and Semite in instinct. . . . It also shows a taste for Stoicism, which is essentially the work of Semites ("dignity" is regarded as severity law; virtue is held to be greatness, self responsibility, authority, greatest sovereignty over oneself this is Semitic. The Stoic is an Arabian sheik wrapped in Greek togas and notions.

>> No.19877800

>>19877777
wasted

nietzsche was a jew lover.

anyway you are a fucking retard. virtue ethics are not semitic. The Jews believe in divine punishment for breaking laws, that is deontological ethics. It is completely different. The Greeks believed in virtue for its own sake, not because God will punish you for not being virtuous. I fucking hate you stupid teenage niggers who start with Nietzsche without ever reading the greeks and think you know everything. literally the most retarded shit I have ever read. Plato admired the spartan constitution and thought that greek city states should be organized similarly to it, how is that anti hellenic? and neoplatonism is compatible with greek polytheism.

>> No.19877820

>>19877800
Neoplatonism? That’s also Semitic MENA in origin.

>Plotinus (/plɒˈtaJnəs/; Greek: Πλωτῖνος, Plōtînos; c.204/5 – 270) was a major Hellenistic Greek[7][8] philosopher born and raised in Roman Egypt, regarded by modern scholarship as the founder of Neoplatonism.[1][2][3][4]

>Eunapius reported that Plotinus was born in Lyco, which could either refer to the modern Asyut in Upper Egypt or Deltaic Lycopolis, in Lower Egypt.[1][2][3][4] This has led to speculations that he may have been either native Egyptian, Hellenized Egyptian,[10] Greek, or Roman.[11]

>Three distinct phases in classical neoplatonism after Plotinus can be distinguished: the work of his student Porphyry; that of Iamblichus and his school in Syria; and the period in the fifth and sixth centuries, when the Academies in Alexandria and Athens flourished.[4]

>Porphyry of Tyre (/ˈpɔːrfJri/; Greek: Πορφύριος, Porphýrios; Arabic: فرفوريوس, Furfūriyūs; c.234 – c.305 AD) was a Phoenician[1] Neoplatonic philosopher born in Tyre, Roman Syria[2]

>Iamblichus (/aJˈæmblJkəs/; Greek: Ἰάμβλιχος Iámblichos; Safaitic: 𐩺𐩣𐩴𐩫 /yamlik/ “[the deity] reigns”; c. AD 245 – c. 325) was a Syrian[1][2] Neoplatonist philosopher of Arab origin.[3][4] He determined the direction that would later be taken by Neoplatonic philosophy.

>The Roman emperor Julian, not content with Eunapius' more modest eulogy that he was inferior to Porphyry only in style, regarded Iamblichus as more than second to Plato, and claimed he would give all the gold of Lydia for one epistle of Iamblichus.


And virtue is slave morality.

>> No.19877850

>>19877820
>These philosophers were semitic, therefore their philosophy was semitic
>But these hellenic philosophers were hellenic, therefore their philosophy was semitic
The stoics and plato literally are hellenism. Aristotle, who is closer to stoics than plato and invented true virtue ethics, was a fervent nationalist who told alexander to conquer the barbarian semites and treat them as inferior to greeks. please read something besides nietzsche. In fact I think Nietzsche himself knows that what he is saying makes no historical sense. he is constructing this myth of his ideal master morality embodied in some made up idea of "hellenism" that all the hellenes were contrary and never existed in order to communicate his philosophy in terms morons like you can understand. Nietzsche applies slave and master morality to the history of philosophy as an attempt to explain his model and build up a mythology (because he was trying to be the next Jesus) but to take hims seriously when he does this you have to suspend your disbelief and assume that all interpretation of history is completely arbitrary and the "hellens" can be whatever you want them to and appollonian and dionysian cults can have believed whatever you want them to and all history is arbitrary and can be interpreted according to whatever model regardless of the actual facts. This comes from his schizo background as a philologist

Also Nietzsche would certainly have admired emperor Julian

>> No.19877891

>>19877850
> fervent nationalist who told alexander to conquer the barbarian semites and treat them as inferior to greeks

Nah. He told him to conquer iranic niggers, you idiot. Alexander then went on to marry lots of iranic whores which disgusted many of his fellow Greeks.

>> No.19877904
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19877904

>>19877891
he conquered "MENA" as well. If even fucking Alexander the Great, tutored by Aristotle the inventor of virtue ethics, has slave morality, then you must admit that nietzsche's bullshit mythology has no historical basis.

>> No.19877944

The stoics hate life only the first stoic was a true Greek

>Zeno of Citium, the Stoic, says that the dead ought to be thrown as food to the living instead of as food for the fire. He also says to use boys sexually without any restraint.
Epiphanius, Against Heretical Sects 3.36
>You are boy-watchers, and that is the only way in which you rival the founder of your school, Zeno the Levantine, the man who—so Antigonus of Carystus tells us in his Life of Zeno —never had a woman and never stopped having boys.
Athenaeus 13.563D–F

>> No.19877993

>>19877777
Nietzsche above all else, would have no scruples with destroying the world if he could help it. He was highly unpleasant and died of syphilis. Oh well.

>> No.19878005

>>19877993
Apparently he was an extremely pleasant and friendly person. I also do not know what makes you think he would want to destroy the world when his entire philosophy was about life affirmation. Furthermore the current medical consensus is that syphilis is an unlikely diagnosis

>> No.19878352

>>19877777
Waste of digits. You will be punished. Esti tis theon tisis!

>> No.19878374

>>19877777
Based Nietzsche

We have to get back to the indo-european Greeks, not the Egyptian Plato

>> No.19878404

>>19877777
These Jews sound based then

>> No.19878701

>>19877777
checked

>> No.19878926

>>19877800
>nietzsche was a jew lover.
No, he wasn't, you idiot. There's a difference between being a Jew-lover and being a Jew-hater. It just so happens that slave-moralists morons, such as yourself, can't seem to understand that the world isn't divided into "good and evil". LOL. Idiot.

>> No.19878942

>>19878926
yeah, it's divided into slave and master morality, right? moron

>> No.19878969

>>19877944
>Epiphanius, Against Heretical Sects 3.36
Absolutely based

>> No.19879544

Why is 4chan always seething about the Jews? Did a rabbi put his beytsims in yer coaffee or sumtin, heh?

>> No.19879570

>>19879544
Memery. Anglos have been far more deleterious to Western civilization than Jews have ever been. I have lived in a (hassidic) Jewish quarter, they are not, *at all*, good neighbors, and the whole "greedy about money" thing is 100% accurate, but overall they are not distinctly worse than other ethnies.

>> No.19879578

>Semitic is le BAD!