/lit/ - Literature

it's evocative (if you've ever touched grass)

>>19870500
How far are you into it?

>>19870500
>I thought it'll be something like a hero of our time
ESLs will never understand this book.

>>19870500
Yeah book fucking sucked

>>19870500
Filtered

>>19870653
>t. self-hating ESL

You just didn't like it

>>19870869
Dick bigorous

>>19870873
Epic

>>19870635
Is the prose similar to The Road, because it was pretty boring in it as well.

Far out on the desert to the north dustspouts rose wobbling and augered the earth and some said they'd heard of pilgrims borne aloft like dervishes in those mindless coils to be dropped broken and bleeding upon the desert again and there perhaps to watch the thing that had destroyed them lurch onward like some drunken djinn and resolve itself once more into the elements from which it sprang.

it's one of the best books I've ever read. I feel sorry for you, OP

>>19870906
No. The prose is most similar to the last third of Suttree. CM more less abandoned this mode from Atph onwards, apart from a few flourishes here and there.

>>19870500
>It's average at best.
I'm not even mad at this point, just feel sorry for you. I'm ESL and I don't even have friends to flex on for reading it, and I still loved every minutes of it. I wish for you to one day enjoy Cormac's writing as I have, but if you don't I'm sure you'll find other books you'll love.

Do Cormac simps not realize that art is subjective. It's perfectly okay for people not to like their capeshit faves.

>>19871624
I'm not a McCarthy fan but to say the prose in BM is anything less than excellent is either dishonest or tasteless.

Proper criticism of this book would be the pitiful shallowness of its themes, or the retard tier character of the Judge.

>>19871634
You come across as very unintelligent. I don't know if you're aware of this, but it's something you should work on.

>>19870500
>a hero of our time
bad

>>19871641
lmao

I thought The Road was better.

>>19870500
i started it but i didn't like how he'd introduce characters and other shit without context and you'd have to read on further to make sense of it. seemed sort of pretentious. i didn't like the western setting either.

>>19871634
It is often less than excellent. Overblown, edging into bathos. Cormac understood this, which is why he was more restrained afterwards.

>>19870500
Hehe... filtered brah

>>19872467
>recommend eating shit
>someone says they don't want to eat shit
>heh.. filtered

>>19872622
>taste so shit he thinks every delicacy is shit
Your problem

>>19872259
He was unfortunately too smart for you
>he understood this
He did it because he understood how BM had to be written. If you want cut and dry, run of the mill "beautiful" prose, then this is not the book. McCarthy's ambitions are much bigger than that.

>>19872677
>blood meridian
>delicacy
that truly explains its popularity on this board

>>19872715
>most respected American novel of the last half century
>filtered fag thinks it is shit
Somethings are beyond contrarianism. You are free to dislike it, but that's on you.

>>19872730
>most respected American novel of the last half century
>not gravity's rainbow
>not underworld
>not infinite jest
>not american pastoral
>not the corrections
you only like this book because it's short and violent and you're stupid

>>19872730
>>most respected American novel of the last half century
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>19872694
It didn't 'have' to be written badly in places. There are some fine passages. And some not so fine, which veer into self parody and unintentional comedy.
I know exactly what he was trying to do, I just think he fails, and BM is hardly flawless from start to finish. If you dont understand that, it might be an issue with you

>>19872730
>most respected American novel of the last half century
If blood meridian is the peak of american literature then your culture is more retarded than I thought

>>19872743
>postmodern shit
>respected
You are 18 and retarded and you only dislike this book because you are used to reading shit. Academia vindicates me, you can cry why your fantasy isn't true but that's your problem.

>>19872749
>which veer into self parody and unintentional comedy
Like?
>what he was trying to do
Tell us.

>>19872747
Laughing in ignorance wouldn't make it false.

>>19872752
holy shit blood meridian is postmodern too you absolute pleb.
>Academia vindicates me, you can cry why your fantasy isn't true but that's your problem.
what the fuck are you even talking about, take your antipsychotics, listen to a joe rogan and go back to /pol/, dumbass

>>19872771
>blood meridian is postmodern too
Newfags should stay in their lane. Or embarrassment awaits.

>>19872761
You can dig out the quotes for me. The scene around the campfire when he describes everyone's eyes. Or that scene with two cowboys riding and its something like 'ancient mute gorgons in gondwanaland'. You, personally, may not find those passages funny, but I do, and let's not pretend it was Cormac's intention to make it funny.
He's aiming for this cod Miltonic, KJV register, and when it works, it really works. BM is a fine book. But I don't feel he sustains it successfully over the whole 400 pages

>>19872752
> Academia vindicates me
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>19872777
>written in 1985
>not postmodern
ok bud

>>19870500
>he
>they
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>>19872785
You are completely retarded. You know bullshit about literature and you want to argue? Is this the third ever book you are trying to read?

>>19871634
If anything the plotlessness of it was inexcusable to me. Even if that was the point, the point could have been communicated in a way that would be less boring to the reader.

>>19872798
if it was written in 1985 it's postmodern. read a book or something

>>19872778
The crazy speculative similes are there for a reason. The fact that he is intentionally shifting registers before delivering them is proof that it is on purpose. You may find them funny because you were unable to fit them to your understanding of the overall work. Humor is usually the first defense of the intelligence.
You can dislike them, but suggesting that McCarthy stopped doing them because he realized they did not work is arrogance. He stopped with them because the later books were nothing like BM and had no need for it.

>>19872810
You. Are. Fucking. Retarded.
Something written after the 60s doesn't automatically make it postmodern,>>19872804
dumb nigger. You don't even know what postmodern means. Just shut the fuck up.

>>19872781
You don't have to be butthurt in every McCarthy thread.

>>19872828
>she's too mad to format properly
lmao

>>19872843
Run around, incel. You know you are on thin ice.

>>19872828
>Something written after the 60s doesn't automatically make it postmodern
it does though

>>19872852
>stringing together meaningless phrases in a vaguely threatening yet incongruent and thereby funny way
typical ameritard

>>19870500
lmao filtered

>Academia vindicates me
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>>19872869
>Academia vindicates me
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>>19872856
>this is /lit/'s population now
No it doesn't. Try googling postmodernism. This is the bare minimum you need if you do not want to embarrass yourself

>>19872875
postmodern is an epoch not a literary genre assface

>>19872865
Better ameritard than some dumb nigger with no idea what he is talking about
>it is written after 60s so it is postmodern
I am laffin. r/books tier. You should go back there.

>>19872875
>>19872882
postmodernism is an epoch not a literary genre assfaces

>>19872880
It also has a definition and most books books that don't adhere to it don't count wuthin it, dumb nigger. Not everything produced in the 17th century is Romanticism, you retard. That isn't a genre either. You think John updike is postmodern? Richard ford postmodern? Dumbasses.

>>19872890
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>>19872897
can you not read? postmodernism is an epoch, not a literary genre. you think 2022 is modernist? you think ww2 never happened? fucking right wing racist piece of shit. unironically shoot yourself in the face with a shotgun. blow your half a brain out.

>>19872869
Crying about it won't change it. If you have any argument then let's hear it.

>>19872904
Your dumbass can't just invent retarded definitions of postmodernism. Your retarded ass thinks that writers, who by their own definition aren't postmodern, are postmodern because you are too retarded to understand that writing out of epoch has always been extremely common in literature. Next you will tell me that Gogol is a realist because Russian realism was the shit back in late 19th century. Or you will double down on your retardation and say something like Russian realism is not an epoch like Postmodernism.

>>19872923
It’s cute how you are just randomly googling literary movements. McCarthy faggots are the least well-read people in existence.

>>19872930
Said the guy who thinks Blood meridian is postmodern LMFAO.
I did not. But I know you are because somebody who claims john updike is postmodern can only be the biggest philistine on the planet. There's also the answer why you are not enjoying BM, you are genuinely too low IQ for it.

>>19872923
you're a historically retarded american who doesn't even appreciate cormac mccarthy's historicism or moralism and literally still thinks we're living in modernity. i think this is true for most white supremacist right wing morons. again, and i hope i'm not being too mean here, but please, get the shotgun, put it in your mouth, and put the half a brain you've got out of its misery

19872949
You’re about as mentally ill as the McCullers faggot and their medication shelf. Take your meds

>>19872960
Holy shit! This has to be bait. I refuse to believe that there's an ape here who genuinely thinks postmodernity follows modernity as a way of living LMFAO. The historicism and moralism would make him anti-postmodern if you had even an ounce of idea of what postmodernism is. Stop replying to me unless your IQ is above room temperature.

>>19872975
You have been butthurt for eons yet you still visit these thread to get assblasted again over and over. Track down the Mccullers faggot and borrow some medication. I saw the poster count, no doubt you have whined in the thread already.

>>19872991
>checking the poster count repeatedly
Yeah, you’re a schizo

>>19870500
I thought it was a fun genre book with some nice passages.
Not quite the masterpiece the teenagers on this board think it is, though.

>>19873006
>coming back again and again because you are too butthurt to see another retarded chud get destroyed
You are autistic.

>>19872981
you literally just looked postmodernism up on wikipedia for the first time. your "modernism" is itself postmodern. you're arguing about that on 4chan. how stupid are you?

>>19870500
>average at best.
Lol what. Since when is Blood Meridian average? Even if you don't like the prose you can't say it's "average" -- it's anything but that.

>>19870500
This book is a reflection of your intelligence, OP.
If you are a brainlet or retarded or a teenager, you can still enjoy it for the nice passages or for the parody of genre elements. It is also very funny in a dark way.
If you are an elitist and put the time into it, then it's also infinitely rewarding as a serious work of literature.
Choose your angle. If you want to be the 2nd kind, you should come around to this book a bit later.

>>19873033
I have literally educated people on postmodernism on this board, retarded faggot. You need to stop. The moment you gave us the masterpiece lmao... conflating LITERARY MODERNISM with MODERNITY, you put the nail in your coffin. I can see you waffling. The wiki wasn't very helpful, was it? Hahaha.
The more you try to preserve your dignity the more you are jeopardizing it. Let's be perfectly real, you are only trying at this point. You are cobbling together shut as we go.

>>19873079
lmao tl;dr
keep seething braincuck

>>19873095
Keep trying to look smart you low IQ ape. Your whole life is a failure and if this thread is proof, that is the way forward for you. Take your own advice. Shotgun. Mouth. Bang.

>>19873107
>filtered by postmodernism
>filtered by philosophy
>filtered by all the great works of american literature in the past 50 years
>thinks blood meridian isn't rife with postmodern deconstructionism
>thinks blood meridian is, god knows what, a red blooded murican novel
>thinks it's the 1800s and he's out there with his gun fucking little mexican boys
keep jacking off to your homosexual pedophilic rape fantasies your redneck fuck

>>19872730
I knew a *few* posters would simply not be able to live with this opinion lol. Only Beloved can claim for that spot, apart from BM.
>>19872743
Dude, the fact that you are even entertaining the idea that ((((the corrections)))) or infinite jest or American pastoral are contenders for 'the most respected American novel of the past 50 years' is already enough to kill all your credibility. Newsflash: they don't choose it according to what you like. Lmao! never thought I would see the corrections suggested, and on /lit/ of all places. Forget about your lack of knowledge of postmodernism, you were dead on the starting line lol.

>>19873398
i uh haven't read the corrections or american pastoral, but they're highly regarded, whereas blood meridian isn't outside of /lit/

>>19873318
>(((postmodern deconstructionism))))
The more you post the more retarded you look, If that was possible. It is out in the open how big of a philistine you are. Throwing random terms around will only prove it more. Now you think deconstructionism is a quirk of postmodernism as if Don Quixote or Tristram shandy weren't already doing it. You are retarded and none of the furtive googling today will change it. More terms = more avenues for me to make you look retarded.
Also stop projecting your kiddy diddling fantasies on me, nonce.

>>19870500
>Where's the beauty?
Literally on every page. The prose is something else.

>>19873431
stop using antisemitic parentheses, i'm not reading your post because you've already proven my point, that you're some dumbass backward rightwing historically retarded moron. you don't even have a brain to blow out with a shotgun, you're a zombie

>>19873411
>whereas blood meridian isn't outside of /lit/
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Whatever floats your boat. You have zero idea of what you are talking about, but you couldn't be more off. Blood meridian is unanimously regarded as a modern classic, and that isn't because of /lit/ nor because of Bloom.

>>19873443
Die in fire then.

>>19873411
Sonny, we need to talk.

>>19873450
>>19873465
no one even knows about blood meridian outside of /lit/, it was literally written by a /lit/ poster, cormac mccarthy doesn't exist, they invented him and made a wikipedia page

>>19873473
1/10 bait

>>19873473
>I was only pretending to be retarded
This is so newfag it hurts.

>>19873476
>>19873481
ok but fr, i dropped blood meridian, i thought it was convoluted, i sort of liked child of god up until the moralistic ending, i think mccarthy's the worst kind of hypocritical shlock moralist, i've never liked western-themed things, if i want some shlocky postmodern hyperviolence i'll turn to ryu murakami, or houellebecq for non-shlocky postmodern hyperviolence instead, mccarthy can suck my cock, so can all of america

>>19873490
>ryu murakami
>non schlocky hyperviolence
Your intelligence is schlock.

>>19873507
no i called ryu murakami's postmodern hyperviolence shlocky and houellebecq's not, you misread it.
look, i just went into blood meridian for postmodern hyperviolence, i didn't like it, i hate america, i hate americans, what more do you want from me? a nuke? gladly

>>19870500
Mccarthy is a hack

>>19875561
>Mccarthy is a chad

>>19870500
I opened the computer and started it and opened the browser and typed in the address and clicked Start a New Thread and typed my thread and posted it and lay back awaiting the replies.