/lit/ - Literature

>>19856207
Lets go at the same time

i did that for 2 months last year and got more done in those 2 months than in the first half of my 20s. convince me to try again starting tomorrow

>>19856207
But youse my only frens

>>19856237
Same, but 3 months and also no youtube and no porn; felt incredible. I don't know how I slipped back. Glad I'm not addicted to something like drugs or alcohol, would have been dead by now.

>>19856254
Offline friends are better.

>>19856207
well either way it'll happen at some point close to when you die

then imagine how many cool threads and funny images you'll miss :((

>>19856207
Leaving 4chan is unironically suicide. This horrible limbo is all that's left of the public Internet, which in turn used to be the only refuge from the normalfags. 4chan is a maleodorant candle that burns a sickly colored flame, and yet it is the only light between us and total darkness.

>>19856257
>offline friends
**shudders**

By actively contributing to the decline of the board I'm actually helping you quit the board.

>>19856207
I'm... here.... forever.....

Other chans i used to visit all died ans death in one form or another.

>>19856233
Yes please, get lost you fucking tranny.

>>19856265
>oh noes. I become normie? Nooooo

>>19856269
Everytime I effort post either:

A) no one replies

B) get called fag

Why even try bros?

>>19856255
yeah i did a couple months no 4chan (havent been on 4chan in years actually but for some reason i decided to visit today), no facebook, no reddit, no youtube... basically only podcasts and book for entertainment. i started lifting 6 days a week (which im still doing to be fair) and getting my shit togheter. then got covid and just did nothing but play dark souls 2 for 2 weeks which set me back, im just lifting, working and watching youtube rn. but i know i need to try again

>>19856291
Can be normie unfortunately. Have autism. My mre presence makes normalfags uncomfyble

>>19856308
That just means you are based, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>19856255
>>19856299
also ive been an heroin addict and more recently a semi-alcoholic and yeah shit's fucked but the internet is even harder to quit for me funnily enough

>>19856233
Please fucking leave you ugly dyke

>>19856237
My problem is the big WHY. I have so many things I'd like to do but then I think of what they cost me last time, how much disappointment I felt, and I think, why? Why would I bother? It pains me so much because when I believe in something I work so hard. Give me a shred of hope and I'll forget to eat or sleep to get things done. But people are sucked every bit optimism from me and turned it into contempt. I just don't know how to unlock myself from this. I am not procrastinating, I just don't believe in it anymore. I deliberately choose to waste my time because dealing with how fucking useless my efforts are at accomplishing anything I wish is infinitely worse than dealing with the regret of having shitposted all day.
I've always been pessimistic but I had this energy in me, this belief, I'll get something done, I'll change at least one tiny little bit of this world, I'll make something happen, and instead nothing happens, no matter how much sweat and blood I pour into it, nothing, nobody even blinks, and then something appears that is done lazily and makes the world worse and doesn't have anything to say and no other aim than grifting a dollar out of people and it effortlessly "achieves". I just lost hope in people. They're like zombies to me, and I honestly find it difficult to participate to society. I've tried doing things for my own personal amusement but they're not the same. I think when you have a certain spirit within you, it's impossible to be content with self-fulfillment in a bubble. You want to change something and connect to others. If this sentiment didn't exist the world would be much worse. Everything I enjoyed and loved so much was fueled by the same desire to gift things, but it also happened because people were receptive. Now they are simply not. We're at a point where the world cannot be changed by people, not one, not a hundred. It's all moved by these very large, planet-like entities that have so much power and reach. It's some kind of cosmic horror I feel except it engulfed not everything around this Earth but the Earth itself, down to the walls of my room. This is how I feel. So what's the point. I am not depressed but people tell me to see a doctor. I've seen a doctor and they had no answer. People tell me to change my mind but they don't say anything that makes me click. I've had my mind changed before by convincing argument. I cannot just warp my brain like this. "Do it for yourself" what am I for? I want to speak to reach others, I don't want to speak to hear my own voice.

>>19856383
/lit/ needs a max-width in its response boxes, this is unacceptable.

Been here on and off since 2007. Very true.

>>19856233
>>19856289
>>19856331
Post a pic, I'm into dykes and trannies.

>>19856383
Don't give up.
Please

>>19856383
is this you anon?

>>19856207
I put my computer away for the first time ever almost 3 weeks ago. I am bored almost all day every day. There is not a lot to do, living in a backwards provincial town that is far away from any major urban center. I like it this way. I have plenty of time to read, think, and do nothing. Eventually, this boredom will manifest so strongly that I will be compelled to fix my situation further. I have been eating well since I stopped vegetating on the computer and I spend more time with my friends. I know that this is the path I have to travel. My prior lifestyle was a complete waste of my life, as a result, it was sinful and full of suffering. I hope I can change more than I have now that I actually face the consequences of my actions
>>19856254
That's the tragic thing about it

>>19856953
since you are back here, should we assume you failed?

>>19856257
They also don’t exist

>>19857195
They must be made, anon.

>>19857199
You are asking me to sculpt with no hands or to run with no legs.

>>19856254
>>19857199
y-you guys like board games? I've been liking Root and Terra Mystica quite much lately.

>>19857209
Nope

>>19856254
We‘re not your friends, we’re an anonymous multitude, a homogenous culture of communicators. Maybe I‘ve already responded to one of posts before calling you a faggot, but neither of us could ever know that. Maybe I called you based before and one of your posts has changed my life — again, we wouldn’t know. All encounters here are first encounters, and yet potentially the hundredth encounter. But what has happened in the past, nor what will happen in the future, has no meaning here. What is revealed from all of this is not friendship in the traditional sense of a personal, individual connection with another individual, but a gradual familiarity with a collective, that values you not as a sustained individual personality over time but values only your fragmented contributions to the discourse, contributions at once very largely determined by the culture around you and partly your individual reaction to it. But even if your individuality is recognised through the originality of one of your posts, in making something that is not simply a repeated meme in which your personality is totally hidden and subsumed, your individual existence will have no sustained relevance to anyone else here beside yourself: you may leave now forever and no-one will notice anything. A friend is not like that. A friend will notice you for you, they will miss you when you are not there and value the past moments you’ve shared with them as a unique experience in their life. More importantly, a friend will want to see you again in the future, whereas 4chan doesn’t care. Get a friend.

I wonder if any historical ‘great men’ would’ve fallen into the ditch of this place had they been born in the last thirty years.

>>19856846
No I wouldn't say that. I'm desperate in an angry way, like I really wish that things weren't like this. Sometimes I try to delude myself that I just miss the 90s, or the XX entury, the pre-industrial era, or another distant time where I can imagine that people were more genuine and open to being infected with other humanity. No more monuments will be erected in this era. I do not want to make an argument toward remembrance, but see, today people no longer look up at a monument and feel inspired by what that man in the statue did for them. They just see a statue. Nobody would certainly risk anything to protect that statue because of what the statue means. This thing was overall present in much worse times, and you can see it in the testimonies of the people. It seems like people no longer believe in anything higher than the flesh they're in. When I hear arguments that love is just hormones, sure, it may be right, but there's this nihilism about it. It doesn't really matter that love is hormones and your brain has these changes when you fall in love, why is this an excuse to remove the layer of meaning from it? Yes you fall in love like you bleed, it's a physical thing. And? Why can't it also be meaningful to you, to your human soul? It's not really science that killed this upper layer but people themselves, who maybe saw it as a burden all along. They just did away with it all because in the end, having this upper layer of ideals, morals, and so on in your brain at all times was a burden, and burdens are impractical and should be done away with. I know it's all true and brutally right but I don't want to live in this place where you're just meat. And even worse is that things I truly love like nature are being put into a grinder for the sake of the same ruthless practicality. Everything beautiful is being turned into something ugly and efficient, because efficient is just better, it doesn't need to be beautiful. If nature follows function alone then how can it be beautiful and pleasing to soothing to the heart while the practical spaces of mankind are fucking horrible, grey, anti-human? There's something terribly wrong about this but people seem to be fine with it. It's like I'm surrounded by strange creatures who do not share my basic thoughts. I feel alienated to such an innermost level and the desires of this society toward me appear so destructive to me I'd rather not live at all. Like the other non-human animals who are being put through the grinder I will also be put through a grinder because like an animal I do not understand people and I cannot act.

>>19857255
Napoleon was into war gamming would have fell for sure, he was into war gamming so his boards would have been lit, tg and pol; also fit because that place is full of coping manlets.

>>19856760
Phones are guilty of this. When I am on the desktop I format posts better, but on a phone I end up with walls of text because I do not have enough screen real estate to pay attention.
I use my phone because I need to save on electricity bills.

>>19857242
is this a pasta or are you just severely autistic? Am i?

>>19857318
There's nothing autistic about that post.

>>19857333
i dont think a normal person would type all of that, at least not on this website
maybe we are, already since long, the abyss we used to stare into

>>19857370
No him, but this board has a 2000 character limit. "All that" is nothing at all.

>>19857383
the only time i write a paragraph like that i wish i didnt because i appear like a sperg that is trying to justify their point too hard
i dont want to go as far as to call it "reddit", it just simply isnt normal to me

>>19856953
Why don't you learn to play an instrument?

>>19857396
>being worried of appearing like a sperg
>on 4chan
anon what are people going to do? laugh at you? you know how many times I've had replies like "lol didn't read", "schizo" or "meds now" in the years I've been here? this site is made exactly to spew whatever goes through your brain, you know, to let out that primal YAWP. What's reddit is worrying that you'll look like a sperg.

>>19857370
Regardless of your feelings about that anon typing out a wall of text, nothing he said was far off the mark. This isn't a place for friendship, even if for some it feels like the last bastion for it.

>>19857425
Honestly, if someone doesn't call you a retard at least once a day in this place, it just means you have boring opinions.

>>19857425
>What's reddit is worrying that you'll look like a sperg.
indeed, i found this out to be true in real life as well. I just wish i had figured out sooner how to live life
>"lol didn't read", "schizo" or "meds now"
all me btw

>>19856207
Wherever I go, there I am.

>>19857242
> A friend is not like that. A friend will notice you for you, they will miss you when you are not there and value the past moments you’ve shared with them as a unique experience in their life. More importantly, a friend will want to see you again in the future, whereas 4chan doesn’t care. Get a friend.
This doesn't disturb me at all because I'm used to that. All my (((friends))) abandoned me at one point or another. They most likely don't miss me and probably never realy did. I always used to be the "initiator" and as time went by the "initiating" got me feeling like an unwanted pest until I just got tired and stopped. The only difference for me between my old (((friends))) and this site is that back then I had to put in a lot of effort to see them, effort that in many cases went nowhere, whereas here all I have to do is open up a tab and -boom-, people to talk with, guaranteed, no questions asked. No pictures, no emails, no usernames, no censorship, no restrictions. Whether I'll be missed or not has no importance for me because I got used to it.

>>19856233
HOLY FUCK YES P L E A S E. Every time you go on a vacation the quality of the board skyrockets

>>19856261
It's a CIA psyop

>>19857639
In the sense that it's monitored or that it's made to channel all dissent into a black hole? Maybe /pol/ is monitored and apparently everyone and his dog is on a list in the USA except actual criminals.

>>19857225
I love root

>>19856237
My longest was 3 months. I still don't know why I came back. I hate it here

>>19857630
The brain-drain of this page has been steady since at least the first Trump campaign, which was when she wasn’t here. You overstate her effect or you pay very close attention to her. Don’t you know how to filter?

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>>19856207
You guys love posting this shit like it's some huge insight, like I'd be doing all sorts of productive things if only I weren't here.

I'd just be doing other worthless shit. I'd be playing games or watching tv. I didn't start spending lots of time on 4chan until my late teens and prior to that I was reading something like 5 books a week. Removing one form of escapism will just open the door for something new to take its place. There's no reward for making an effort in life and as such, I will continue to waste mine. Thank you for your consideration.

>>19857876
Which faction are your favorite? I love the Corvid Conspiracy and the Lizard Cult
>>19858268
Why did you respond anon? You seem to have made up your mind already. Why did you feel the need to tell us about yourself, your past and an overall vision of your take in life? Could it be you know "deep" down you are full of shit?

>>19858317
That's some cute armchair psychology but you know the point of this site is discussion, right? We've all seen OP's image a hundred times before and the implied question when posting it is
>you've see this so why are you still here?
If it's so self-evident and I'm so full of shit then why are you still here?

>>19858337
We both having this back and forth just proves OP's pic.
>cute armchair psychology
Belittling and projection
>why are you still here?
Addiction, tried multiple times to leave; this site is twitter-tier or worse.

>>19856237
My longest was a full year, it was the year Trump got elected.
When I got back into the madhouse everyone was saying based and Xpilled and it took me a while to adjust.
Unfortunately the time I didn't spend here I spent on video games and porn, so not much changed.

I can get out whenever I want, but I don't want to miss out on the funny frogs.

>>19858367
>I can get out whenever I want
lol

>>19856298
Shut up fag.

>>19858376
Ok anon, this is it. This is my final post.
After this gets posted, I will close the web browser and I will never, ever come back again.
I'll delete my frog folder, my funny pictures folder.
I'll renounce to the never ending stream of novelty this website offers, I'll close my only window into the outside world.
I learned to speak English thanks to this website, had I not discovered it, I wouldn't have a job. I wouldn't be able to read all the nice books I found here.
Is it weird that this feels like suicide/death? Like letting go of something that will continue and evolve without you, something that maybe you cherished.
I can pretend that the internet went down, that this is lost forever. The year I did it the world felt different in many ways, but also very empty.
I'm ready to leave. Goodbye everyone. Thanks for everything.

>>19856207
The most time I spend on 4chan is at work LMAO

>>19858421
See you tomorrow anon.

>>19858421
good luck

>>19858361
So you, a person who is "addicted" to a fucking website, feels fit to lecture me, a person who accepts that the modern world is a hellscape in which effort is meaningless? I'm here because I choose to be as I recognize that there is no better alternative. You're here because you're weak willed garbage who can't leave even though he wishes he could.

>just proves OP's pic.
OP's pic claims that there are better things to be found elsewhere. I'm telling you that there aren't and that all other potential activities are just as inherently empty and meaningless as time spent here. That said, I'm amused at the thought of you sitting in front of your pc ten years from now, desperately miserable over the fact that you wasted yet another decade on your "addiction".

Literally just walk away from the screen you unimaginable faggot. "Addicted" to a website, jesus christ.

>>19858581
its ok anon, just respond one more time, you can have the final word and show everyone here how cool you are.

>>19857260
>>19856383
I feel you, anon. I've felt and thought everything you described.
It's a bleak situation to be sure - it makes me feel afraid that the concepts of 'beauty' and 'meaning' are becoming outdated, the kind of things that your grandchildren will view much like you view the knightly chivalry of the middle ages. At times I can almost feel the lure of nihilism and valueless existence like a physical force, pushing me to forget about my ideals and morals, stop wasting time on stuff that doesn't make me money, give up on my hobbies because they're a waste of time. After all, why not? It's not like it hurts anybody. Everyone is just trying to make it, you know? But I can tell that what I'm hearing is really just a roundabout way of committing suicide - once you take away everything but the need to hustle and grind until you make it somewhere that lets you hustle and grind harder, you're left with mainlining Zoloft to keep you from noticing what's missing.
I don't know if there's really a solution to the state of things. Maybe the future of humanity is some kind of dreadful Borg cube that intakes fresh humans at one end, mashes them in a giant industrial meat grinder, and spits them out as flesh-colored goo at the other end. But I can't just lie down and accept it. There's meaning, and truth, and ineffable beauty that I can't even put into words out there. I've seen bits of it here and there, peeking around the edges of everything else. If I give in to the bland Borg cube philosophy swallowing people in my country, I'll never be able to touch it again, and while I'm still capable of seeing it, I have to believe that other people can, too. And maybe if there's enough of us, even if the rest of the world gets bulldozed and turned into a strip mall or an infinite apartment filled with identical women caked in makeup putting themselves on OnlyFans or whatever, there's still the possibility for something else to replace it eventually. I can't give up yet.

>>19856383
I can't help you, but I'm in a similar place and have gone through the same thing. Just thought it'd be comforting to know some share this sentiment, reading your post was for me. I truly pray you find your driving hope, meaning and reason, whatever it might be.

>>19857242
>Get a friend.
Why do you people always just say "bro just get a friend bro" as if it's so groundbreaking?

>>19856298
I replied anon

>>19856207
Where else am I supposed to go? Reddit? This place may have its fair share of retards and schizos but it's still better than everywhere else. The rest of the internet just feels so hopelessly sanitized compared to here.

>>19859326
>Where else am I supposed to go?
OUTSIDE

>>19859384
>OUTSIDE
overrated

>>19859439
You’re not doing it right

it's just a website lol, why would you expect to get le serious discussions and character development out of it?

>>19859566
this, is an entertainment website if you enjoy wasting your time here then it doesn't matter, if you don't, then go and come back when you're bored
>why would you expect to get le serious discussions and character development out of it
weirdos base their identities around it, the image in the OP mentions this with the false dichotomy of normalfags which is true to some extent to be fair.

>>19856207
That's copypasta hits different. Here it is in a different format

>>19856257
>>19856291
I would rather kill myself due to useless esoteric viewpoints I see on here than stagnate with superficial shitty copes like my IRL friends who just play league of legends all day or work 60hr workweeks

>>19856298
If you effortpost with enough insight and choose who you reply to, then you'll have better luck

>>19859498
>Sorry anon, carryout only. Fully vaxxed only. Yeah, that means booster too.
>Sorry, there is a $100 fee to queue for the club. Wait, sorry, the club is closed. See you in two weeks I mean 2021 I mean 2022 I mean
>Sorry man, we're just too tired after work. haha I mean we could go out but you know we don't drink anymore and theres a few new netflix series out! Plus, the furbabies are getting hungry back home!! :(
>due to unforeseen circumstances surrounding the coronavirus your flight has been canceled. Also, because coronavirus is a foreseen circumstance, you can't rebook for free or get reimbursed. Sorry
Wow outside is so great!

>>19859601
Absolutely wrong and cope
> there's no quality content here you cannot get more quickly elsewhere
blatantly incorrect. Nowhere else even has memes in the traditional sense, you're lucky if you get ex-Tumblr voice actors being linked to read out some mildly chuckleworthy pasta, Twitter and TikTok migrants have completely destroyed every comment section
> people do not have arguments here... diamonds in a garbage dump
Yeah, it's looking like the rest of the internet too.
Real life? Don't worry, real life is the fucking same except people are more likely to just be fragile ignorants who don't engage, and if they do get angry, they will spaz and cause a scene and call the cops and doxx instead of engaging in banter
> misogyny, narcissism, [...]normalfags, and insecurity
misogyny is warranted, my narcissism and insecurities are justified by things outside of 4chan and they always were, and normalfags really are trash but the dichotomy is indeed false
The copypasta is a relic of an older time. Terminally-online normies didn't exist back then.

>>19856207
Social media isn't that bad, you literally get decided to see what you want to see by just changing the filters and settings of your apps. Posting cute pictures of your cat on Facebook isn't inherently bad, watching youtube videos on woodworking isn't inherently bad, discussing Plato on a Finngolian cheese-slicing board isn't inherently bad, and so on and so forth. I use apps like Discord because I have no other places where I could discuss literature. The interests of my irl friends are not completely aligned with mine and that's a good thing. If you have any suggestions on what could replace this board, I'd be happy to hear it.

>>19859678
>Nowhere else even has memes in the traditional sense
4chan is no exception hombre

>>19859669
this

outside is a shithole

>>19859669
at this point, every day I'm not drafted to fight Russians in winter is a day I'm fine with

>>19859601
anon, /lit/ got me into reading again
and philosophy, poetry, all the fiction I never knew I'd love
not even talking about about all the movies, films, music and vidya that 4chan helped my finding out that I enjoy so much

also, it's great for small talk

>>19856207
This is a reminder that the 20s, the 2020s, are 22.1% finished. By the end of June, a few months from now, a quarter of this decade is over. Compare what you have done and seen and experienced between 2010 and 2012 (or any other two-and-a-half year period) with what you've lived through since the beginning of 2020. what do you think of this decade?

I think i'll take my first step tonight by deleting 4chan off my phone. I'll bust one last nut on /gif/ roll down my boards one last time and call it quits outside of rare desktop visits. I already nuked youtube and managed to pound out a 50 page short story. Image what i could do leaving this site. Wish me luck frens.

>>19857183
I phonepost now
>>19857417
It is a based idea. I do want to learn to play piano, how to use a daw, and how to sing. Right now I am learning Latin

>>19856298
Faggot

>>19860407
>I phonepost now
phoneposting made things worse for me

>>19860506
How so? In almost every way the way I live now is better than playing dota or watching YouTube 9 hours a day

>>19858596
>>19858631
Someone always relates but nobody has a real answer. Eventually I'll off myself, I know it's the only possible end.

>>19860536
Don't off yourself. Take the retardpill. Smash your head against a wall repeatedly until you get brain damage and stop thinking about how bad life is.

>>19856207
I been here since 2008, at least, and I assure you I only look at this shitheap on my break at work and summarily don't participate in any social media mechanism otherwise. It's literal drek from top to bottom. Five minutes here is enough to sap me of any willingness to return for the rest of the day, or week or month, but I don't take my book with me to work nor would I derive satisfaction from reading for 15 minutes only, nevermind that it's -30 outside and I want to smoke a cigarette. This place is bite-sized fast-food "media" at best but I can still swallow it down for a few minutes without sickness, and there's nowhere else to go, but for all intents I'm basically signed out. This may be my first post in a few months. Only posting so I can support (You) and let you know that, yeah, not everyone is irredeemably ensnared.

>>19856207
Meh, it's better than Netflix

>>19858205
That is independent of my post

>>19858593
Not him but isn't that what you are doing in that post

>>19860016
god damn it man...

There's a reason why the OP post is on /v/, because it's probably the biggest cesspit on this site. The site itself you could call a cesspit (I wouldn't, this place is great), but the worst, most juvenile, dopamine addicted, degenerate posters go to /v/.

>>19858593
He is entirely right and you're being a llittle bitch.

>>19860016
A lifetime shrinks or expands inside the smallest sliver of a second. The written number is nothing but another shackle in the chain of da sysdem.

>come here less and less
>finally have time for books and anime
On my fifth book already.
Maybe I’ll come back and make a /general/ for eugenics or utiopianism after having read a bunch of books.
You nerds are repetitive as hell.

b

>>19861060
No, /tv/ is worse.

>>19860016
>what do you think of this decade?
It sucks, but that's the fault of a group of meddling authoritarians who decided to shut down society over a flu. It has nothing to do with 4chan.

"4chan(nel)" is a home(/)market; the only individuals who somehow yearn to leave it are tourists lost in transit, and deluded obsessive compulsive degenerates.

Pretending internet addiction is a real thing and that you have it is just another part of the recreational experience that is using this website.

The simple fact is the world is boring and your ability to do things in it is very limited so you come here instead. I don't even like half the stuff I masturbate to anymore but I do it for the novelty.

>>19863792
based and scatpilled

>>19856233
Ok
3 2 1 go

>>19858593
>belittling and projection
Isnt that what you said? lol

protip: spam tranny and nigger or nigger tranny porn in the catalog and ask janny for a permaban (usually they only give 3 day) but at least it gives you a long enough break

>>19863690
so..?

>>19856207
I've seen this post several times and every time I think it's the biggest cope ever. If you have any impulse control going on a board like /lit/ isn't really a terrible use of free time. People spends hours on instagram every day

>>19860016
Personally it was fucking phenomenal for me. I found the purpose of my life. Of my work. Amazing shit happened. My 2010s were full of trauma and actual horrific experiences.

>>19866081
Congrats anon. I hope the same might happen to me one day soon

>>19856207
This site has so much to offer everybody. Any question or topic you want to humor will be discussed enjoyably moreso than Hollywood treatments and deeper so than academic lipservice. Political engagements here have more prescience and salience than anything visible on publicly signaled exchange. Religious discussion goes beyond what any monastery will share with you. Your OP is a deeply insecure shit bag whining to other deeply insecure shit bags. I'm the shit. I make this site the best shit on the internet. Eat my ass hoe. It's good for you and part of a complete breakfast.
4chan
The brand parents trust

>>19856207
Just leave /v/ you filthy neck beard
You think all the subject matter interest boards outside porn and video games are worthless because you yourself and your video games and porn are worthless.

>>19856257
No. Baby duck loves the first thing it sees. People are no different. Here you can carousel different ideas the way hoes IRL carousel romantic lives and financial futures with the power of their mighty crotch orbit. The most distinguished academics are still fucking beta worldling clingtards who don't even new memes.
Muh Christianity
Muh Islam
Muh Marxism
Muh Sissyfication Postmodern tantrum
Holy shit man the population is in ruins and itself is ruin.
Plato said we gotta groom em.
Warner Brothers and zombie company Disney groomed em. This is real life. Sure online and we don't know each other but we are both actively thinking more freely and intently now than most people ever will cumulatively across their WhatsApp Normiebooking life cycles.

>>19866432
/ourguys/ or no guys
Everyone else is gay

You’re my oldest friend 4chan(nel)

>>19856254
I love your effort posting and lurking too Anon.
>Frenship is not half the holy life, Bhiku Anon it's the ENTIRE holy life
Meanwhile pic rel is my real life

>>19856298
Post funny images that get reposted and gloat in pride like I do that they get republished millions of times more than they would if they had my name attached. IMAGE board

>>19856298
Whenever I effort post janny prunes the thread pronto because the thread gets too HOT N SPICY. I save those threads because I know they're the best on the web.

>>19859669
>>19859817
>>19859800
I think everyone on this thread should have good real life friends that they plan activities outside with, and hopefully don't live in a citiy where they cannot improvise if everything is locked down like camping.

That being said, I don't like copers pretending modern normal life is stable, or that is a good ideal for anons to subsume to. If anything they should be organizing to force normal life to bend to them, with force if needed, but that is neither here nor there.

>>19857242
>We're not friends
Uh you don't get to bring friends
>Fren
This is where the meme takes off
You don't have /frens/ IRL
Probability isn't in your favor
Unless you did some hunting like I did and even then those awesome friendships were shortlived and economically asphyxiated.

>>19856298
Here's your government mandated (You)

>>19866506
>>19866432
>MUH SELF
perhaps the best thing we let go of here is our identity. We are pure interest becoming more interesting.

>>19856383
For me, it's underachieving over and over again steadily achieving something personal instead of thrashing against the abyss. Red means stop green means go. My ass hurts from sitting. Oh boy another retail space this is what industrial society does to a mf. Any one got an idea how to get out of this? No. Oh well. Yes? THREAD HAS BEEN PRUNED OR DELETED
Well I'll outlive it. I'll hold my effort like a scorpion holds it's venom and burrow myself in cadence.

>>19857260
The more knowledgable I became to discuss on this site the more I answered to my aches and pains of alienation. I now can look at my population of alienating normie antagonist NPC mobs with clear scope of their rock headed trajectory. I steer clear. I lay low. I ask for much and I recieve much but I do not bother the normies as if they were sentimental specimens like me. I do not parade my sentiments any where but here because I know Nietzsche tried that and went insane. Guenon and Jung just hit some good pussy and talked to their kids probably about inane bullshit baby babble that never approached their inner life outside a sleepy muttering they probably got chastised by wife and wooden spoon. That's really the whole gamut now. I have missed many flights and felt the soul crushing despair of missing out on my idyllic horizons in the abstract. The best we can hope for is a good book and this thread is a good start. The terrain is ugly. The setting is set. The people are insectoid Mark of Cain monsters. The actors are cast. The plot is your path and your stealth and your mortality. The mcguffin...for me,
It's
(You)

Essence de la 4chanel
Eau de le Monde
4channel exclusivé

This website is really shit, but the more well read you become the more you are suprised by how many people lurk here who have read that esoteric book you just started a thread for.
Surface level it is clearly shit, but it is great for finding a discussion on many texts you would have a hard time finding someone else irl to discuss with. To this purpose I return to /lit/ regularly.

>>19856207
This site was actually good back in the day for band recs on /mu/, film recs on /tv/ and good reads on /lit/. Actually gave me a lot of hipster cred suggesting these to friends. That was over 10 years ago though. Now it’s mostly shit on here and i only go on here if iI need to act retarded/ find edgy memes to share with more normie friends

>>19865958

The effect should not be mistaken for the cause.

>>19866591
It's (You) I like
It's not yourself offline
It's not the way you post on time but it's
(You)
I like
The digits on our posts
The dubs guy frogs and wojaks
All the songs and hot tracks
It's not your OC being yours
That's just beside (You)

Everyone in ITT is blinded by their addiction. I come to 4chan and fap to porn for pretty much everyday and it hasn't affected me negatively at all, even positively. I'm not an obese loser neet who vegetates in front of his computer for 9 hours. I read tons of books, recite poetry, listen to music, water the plants, take walks, go to the park, contemplating on my roof etc. What OP posted pretty much applies to the entire internet without moderation. Anything in excess is bad, particularly this site but that is YOU.

>>19866639
>Coomer projects negative coomer vision onto the whole non porn noncoomer poster world
Dude it's just a drawing take it easy

>>19866639
>calls me a coomer
Masturbation is a normal, healthy activity. You have been tricked.

>>19856207
>4chan is worthless and so are (You)

>>19866649
>>19866679
Meant order.

i only come on 4chan cuz you guys are the only people I talk to nowadays. i haven't had real life friends in like 10 years. i did have online friends for a while but online friendships are so fake, they all distanced themselves from me once i started having different interests and opinions than them.

>>19857433
>a paragraph about the size of the American Pledge of Alliegance is a wall of text
t. phone p*ster

>>19866680

>>19856298
I wish there was an "/epg/ - Effort Post General"; a thread with actual book reviews, discussion; or any other effort posting with a semi-/lit/ focus.

>>19856207
Why do you need someone to close it down? The website doesn't enslave you, nothing enslaves you except for yourself. Just click the red X at the top right of your screen and go outside

>>19858421
wish I saw that post before it was deleted

>>19859678
based and unshakeable solid backed confidence

>>19866679
cope.
your post is still negative.
only superior zinc retaining brain can see that.
fap all you want but lose your zinc and you lose your brains, literally.
not even women lose that much precious vital BODILY FLUIDS

>>19857623
amen
>>19858268
My ass you'd be mister productive as if we're holding you back. You have yet to even begin understanding what is holding you back.
>>19856383
>>19857260
This Anon understands why you can't be Mr Productive in this day in age. The Incredibles treated the same subject. Our financial and political reality is one of sponsored inferiority and femcel et al rage goading. Nations, businesses, all plundered by this evil humiliating emasculating touch. Nothing left but private contemplation as resort held with saint like composure or blissful ignorance.

>>19859669
bingo, someone who isn't pretending they're on another planet right now and they can just stroll into a factory and ask Henry Ford for tae kwon do lessons.
>>19859628
>>19859678
>>19866737
NORMIES REEE is our clarion call for a reason

>>19856207
Fine I'll leave.
Good luck.

>>19867027
didn't mean to quote >>19858268
meant for some naive doomer i wont scroll again for

>these amount of responses
You fuckers like to act tough and stoic, but you feel strongly about this topic.

>>19859678
I can't help but agree with you, at least in part. 4chan may be a shadow of its former self, but it's still a nice pass time. And there is nowhere else you're going to find this much unregulated, varied information and discourse. Sure, the vast majority of the posters are pretty dense, but that's the case on every website. At least here people still say what they're really thinking, and the effort posts are still mostly second to none when they do appear.

>>19867083
these were very heartfelt responses, Anon. Not a stoic thread. The stoic posts are to be mocked IMO

>>19856207
Where would I go?

>>19866639
>trannyme picture
brain damage

>>19856383
What you are describing is the vice of despair, one of the great daughters of Sloth.

What are you for? You are for the service of God. This is why we all exist. It is why He called us into being from nothingness. It is a high and noble calling. We are incapable of the task, and yet God has promised us his unfailing help if we ask for it. Yes, God asks us to be His hands, to be His feet, His tongue. God desires to be known, and it is your inestimable task to make Him known. It will demand of you your whole life, and it will cost you everything. It will hurt. You will bleed. And when you do, you will know there is nothing greater. You will have found the font of joy.

Do not despair my friend. You are on the precipice of wisdom. All that you see, all that you do appears as so much nothingness. And you are brilliantly correct in this observation. Vanity of vanities, all is vanity. We are but ash and dust. All you see is nothing, because you cannot see God. And if all this is nothing, what loss is it to give it all up for God?

Whatever you do, do it for God.

>>19867684
I do not believe in God. I have tried for two years rather obsessively as my last attempt. If he doesn't exist, I am unable to force schizophrenia on myself and force this believe in my brain, even though I still keep the habits and embrace the whole Christian ethics thing when I am sober. If he exists, he's forsaken me completely, probably because I am not very good at fighting my urges and vices or whatever you want to call them. The hate I feel for people is so deep that I cannot even imagine what it feels like to love my enemy. I think these comments given to atheists are so stupid and offensive they might actually be attempts at getting people to kill themselves on the spot.

>>19867760
What you're describing is classic Sloth (https://www.newadvent.org/summa/3035.htm).).

Leave aside the trying to believe or not believe. Faith is beyond reason, and it is a gift from God, not something we can produce on our own.

Instead, try going into the woods, to place that is beautiful, but not picturesque. Sit in silence long enough that you can begin to notice what wild life there may be. Then, try and consider in your mind what life is, in and of itself. From life, try to consider what consciousness is. What is knowledge? Try to consider what movement is. What is light? What is darkness? Try and lose yourself in the complexity. Consider how small you are. But not just how small you are--how small we all are. How irrelevant the affairs of the world are to life as it in itself.

Do I say this to hurt you? Definitely not. I genuinely want you to believe in God because I know it would be to your good. And, as you've said, you've reached a point where you don't even know what or how to do anything because you've lost all love for other people. You're even at a point where your own personal pleasure and enjoyment seems like a waste of effort. Clearly, as your misery tells you, this is not good. But as you acknowledge, you've lost all sense of what good even means, if it can mean anything at all. It has reached the point that you are even opposed to what little goodness you grudgingly seem to recognize. The thought that some goodness might be yours causes you grief. The call to life's greatest good makes you want to kill yourself. As you yourself have already expressed, you are in a very bad place. If you've already tried so many different things, that means you've recognized you need to change the way you think. But as you say, it hasn't worked. And yet, if your reasoning is so clearly unreasonable, and your attempts have so far failed to change that reasoning, it can only be that the error which is causing you so much trouble is far deeper in your assumed identity than you have realized.

Get away from the world a little bit, and just try to think about what beauty, truth, and goodness actually might be. But don't just do it once. Do it multiple times.

I must admit, though I don't recommend it, that I was greatly helped by cigarettes in my own conversion, at least when it came to contemplation. Maybe try a pipe instead, because cigarettes are pretty awful and miserable hard to quit. The time it forces you to be outside, and the slight edge of focus it gives to your thinking, without being so ragged and frenetic as caffeine, can help put some distance between your mind and all the noise of the world.

>>19867897
>Faith is beyond reason, and it is a gift from God
Guess God doesn't feel giving toward me and I'm about to kill myself. I guess I'll have to believe in that predestination thing and imagine that God decided that I'm like those kids that are born with horrible diseases and die suffering for no reason at all because he had a plan.

>>19867897
Please shut the fuck up. This shit is the last thing I need right now. You are so tiring. This is not even a genuine attempt at conversion, what you are doing is both predatory and vain and it's coming at my expense and you know it, but you don't give a shit because you get to LARP on a fucking website where the vast majority of pictures posted are of filthy e-whores with her asscheeks plastered over the camera.

>>19868006
/lit/ is actually relatively tame on the modesty front, and it's easy to hide the threats with bad pictures.

Why is this the last thing you need? Why do you find this so unhelpful? You've acknowledged that you are not happy with how you are living your life. You know it's not working. What can I do differently to show that I genuinely want to help you?

>>19856261
you are a pretentious faggot but sadly a correct one

>>19867998
He hasn't given up on you. He's offering it to you right now.

I might be a terrible bastard. I might be selfish and vain and all things you accuse me of. But God writes straight with crooked lines. The Devil wants you to look at me. He wants me to make it all about me. But God wants you to find Him. If I'm doing this out of outrageous self-love, which is almost certainly the case, because we're all so profoundly self-gratifying, it is because God is allowing me to do this evil against Him so that you might see him in spite of me.

If God sent you a vision and an angel. You wouldn't believe. If he brought a sign from the heavens, you would doubt it was Him. You're not praying on top of a mountain. You're not wandering the desert. You're not looking for God. You're here, on a anonymous forum dedicated to the self-idolizing hypocrites of the new Babylon. So, instead of an angel, instead of a sign, God has sent you a Babylonian. You're looking for the Devil, so God has sent you an anti-Christ. But if I am so hateable (and I am), why would you want to spend eternity with everybody like me? Hypocrites go to Hell, along with all the perverts and idolators, and murderers, and liars, and so on. If you look around at our society, which is so hate able, why do you think you see anything other than the society of Hell? Please, if you want to hate me as you ought, you must learn to love God.

I left 4chan for a month in January moving to reddit. I've been with four chan for 9 years so it's easier to communicate as I understand the community. But reddit has a higher standard for communication philosophical ideas are practically stamped out if unsubstantiated without sources or degrees. It feels like being a psychologist or a teacher you need to know the minute details correctly to solve a minor problem or test question.

I really want to leave 4chan there are too many cults (that Donald Trump 4+4 Chan one that kills people) your never going to get the truth from a redditor but this honestly is what leads these people into cults.

>>19868125
Oh yeah? What's your degree?

>>19868125
top tier bait, truly

>>19856261
I have to second this opinion. Have you ever tried having a discussion with someone on FB? It's a fucking cesspit worse than 4chan. I would argue that the only place that might be better is a small forum that has strict gatekeeping. The problem is that those are generally very topical and thus not really worthwhile for the general array of interests that 4chan presents.

>>19868125
Good bait, the first paragraph had me angry but the blonald blumpf stuff was too on the nose.

>>19868028
I don't need a LARP sermon from a downtime jerkoff right now. As I said I have been desperately getting into Christianity for two years. I do not need nor want this shit.

>>19868161
Fair enough. What do you need?

>>19868170
A beer.

>I'm better than you because I ironically visit 4chan and hate it.

Oh fuck off. This notion that somehow your time would be better spent on some other diversion or past time is a bit trite don't you think?

I haven't even bothered to read the garbage trad-cath nonsense that filled the thread. Rightoids are bad enough, but the lengths that lefties will go to feel morally or intellectually superior to those they share the boar with is often times sickening.
4chan is a route, a street. It can take you wherever you'd like to go. If you deign to lower thyself from your pedestal and steep in the mire, if you feel a pull from those "misogynistic" ideas, well maybe your convictions weren't quite as strong as you supposed.

Else? Maybe your ego is so puny and ill-formed that you are cast asunder in the winds of meme-based kulturkampf.

>>19868137
The degree doesn't matter just that you have it. A common answer is the suicidal redditor who never gives personal information away the proper psychologist would say seek therapy and an institution and meds but a redditor is blindsided and says only therapy this is either because they hate mental health treatment or are being more seemly to the man.

Just look at all the walls of text and cope, you guys know deep down we shouldn't be here.

>>19868180
No, seriously. You hate your life. You hate everyone around you. You hate yourself. What's a beer going to do? I didn't ask what you want, but you need. You said you want to speak to reach others. But as you already said, you've got nothing to say. Fair enough you don't need a sermon. What do you need?

>>19868232
>What's a beer going to do?
It's getting me dressed and taking a walk to the pub.

>>19868246
Did you think faith was going to be easy? Is anything easy worthwhile?

>>19868279
No I did not think faith would be easy. I don't blame God or whatever. It's just me. I hate people, yeah. When I talk to people here I want to smash their face. When I talk to others it's like I'm talking to monkeys. I cannot love people, they're crass and stupid and they're like animals but without that gratitude that animals display when you do good for them. There is literally not a thing I enjoy in life except those times when I am outside of the world, like sleep or drunkenness. I used to enjoy creating because I had this fire but it's all been so snuffed out that I cannot even see the ashes it left anymore. I just associate the fire with the burning, not with heat or light. If God wants to help me I'm sure he will. In the meantime I'd rather not sit around and wait forever while existence erodes me every day

>>19868327
Did the fire go out, or did you put it out?

>>19868348
People doused it with all the piss they had.

>>19866639
>and it hasn't affected me negatively at all
sure

>>19868327
>If God wants to help me I'm sure he will.
Ever heard the parable of the drowning man?

>>19856261
The real secret is realizing that 'normalfags' don't exist

>>19868694
Not Biblical.
>>19868727
True. People here are normies too.

>>19868799
>Not biblical
>Normies don't exist
You are the normal fag, normal fag. Bible is Golem OS designed for normies like you to antagonize autists like the shitposters who effort post here and construct all the USER GENERATED CONTENT OC here. Y'know what this place is known for? No. You don't know because you're a normal fag.

>>19867760
>The hate I feel for people is so deep that I cannot even imagine what it feels like to love my enemy.
What'll really bake your noodle is that it's possible to feel this way all the time while also being unable to disbelieve in God

>>19869256
>You are the normal fag
Oh cut this bullshit please. I have been an outsider all my life. I remember disliking life and other people and never truly fitting in since I was a child. Teachers said I was extraordinary but my parents never cared enough to send me to a better school so I got beaten up and spit on all the time.

>>19869794
>Outsider
Yeah you're not from here either though newfag. Congrats you've evolved a little.

>>19866851
it's called reddit

>>19869803
I've been on this site more than 10 years

Today something strange happened and I don't feel too well. I have a feeling that I might die tonight. Wow what a shit end.

bye

>>19868606
This lie makes you miserable. Why do you keep telling it to yourself?

>>19869794
Pride leads to Vanity. Vanity leads to Sloth. Sloth leads Despair. It's a familiar pattern. When you were a child the adults in your life told you were special. You thought the world would idolize you and you wouldn't have to work for it. Looking down on other people doesn't make you better than them. You're not different from the kids who bullied you--you're just satisfied to spit on them in your mind. It's time for you to grow up and start being honest with yourself.

>>19869256
>Bible is Golem OS designed for normies like you to antagonize autists like the shitposters who effort post here and construct all the USER GENERATED CONTENT OC here.
What did he mean by this?

I have been on 4chan since 2005, the only reason I remember that is because the first time I opened the site they were shilling donate or die. I have been on 4chan for 17 years now. I have been here longer than I have not. I have moved boards. I have gone for months not posting. But I always come back. I always end up here. The only way I will stop is if they shutdown the site. I remember the days of other chans. 7chan, 420chan, 711 chan, that one about trains. I remember when they were active. I remember when there was a thrill to a centralized website of shitposters. Now I'm older. The structure stays the same but the content ebbs and flows. The medium is the message. You will never leave. I will never leave. We are here forever. The sea levels will rise. We will be living on the streets. Rooves will crash in. Society will collapse. Bombs will drop. We will still be posting here.

>>19870466
Ridiculous. I quit just yesterday

>>19857225
I like Cartographers if that counts... I cannot yet find people to play anything advanced with me

>>19870572
I've never played a roll & write; are they good? The only one that have caught my attention is the one you flick disks, I think is called Sonora.

>le 4chan is bad
that's wrong
this is one of the last major free sites on the internet

all you people do is get sucked into stupid arguments and bait threads and then whinge about how bad this place is

i practise my rhetoric and debating skills on this site
i quickly learn new information to fill gaps in my own knowledge on this site
i ignore every piece of bait on this site
i ignore every terrible post on this site

every single post i make in this place is genuine and more often than not i get genuine replies and it leads me to a great deal of enjoyment on here

you have no self-control
you are the problem

>>19870466
This, it doesn't matter how fucked or "functional" you think you are; you are here forever.
>>19870744
>i ignore every piece of bait on this site
>i ignore every terrible post on this site
So you ignore 99% of this site?

>>19870757
>So you ignore 99% of this site?
correct
i have no need to waste my time with them

>>19859633
>effortpost
idk man i dont like to effortpost, i'm more of a shitposter. occasionally i'll frogpost and then sometimes i'll blogpost or maybe chadpost but i'll NEVER niggerpost. i hate niggerposters, they're not human i bet they don't even humanpost

>>19870466
based ancientfag
cheer up emo duck

>>19871363
>i dont like to effortpost, i'm more of a shitposter
I write high quality shitposts usually. As long as it's an effortpost most people won't read it. It used to be different.

>>19870424
You don't know anything about my life. People have beaten all my will to create out me.

>>19870466
Salut

>>19856207
I've actually thought of doing that a lot lately, every time I'm about to read one of my books because I have more than I can even name on my (to read) list that I barely ever make a dent in, I check this retarded site. I've found a few good things because of this site, and I don't think I'll find much else. I really need to set some time aside to actually write myself, because I finally have a few decent ideas on what I'd like to write and feel if I keep procrastinating I'll never get it accomplished. I think I might actually try blocking the site for a while, at least until I get some writing done and figure out if it's something I'd want to continue doing, just for myself as a hobby and if I feel it's something I can actually be proud of I'd get it out there. I write for myself mainly, I write the books that I wish I could read. This site does breed a ton of negativity, and I'm a depressed pessimist on a good day although it's nothing like what it was when I was younger but I'm afraid if I keep coming here it will only get worse. I'm in a good place in my life right now and I just don't want to fuck it up by somehow mindfuck myself into believing I'm not so it seems like a good time to go away, at least until I figure some shit out. I hope everyone else here does the same.

>>19870466
I can't accept this

>>19863792
>i'm not addicted i can stop at any time!
also, only boring people get bored

>>19856207
the way this anon describes 4chan makes it look like real life, so what's the difference between these two "realms"

>>19869885
ebin

>>19867897
The other anon is right. This reads like an exercise in self satisfaction on your part. You've made a number of false assumptions. The fact that that other poster is inquiring after God means that God is working on him already - it means he already has been gifted faith of a sort.

this thread has given me a number of existential crises. saving this to look it over some other time.

>>19871538
Not that other poster. I feel where you're coming from if that helps.

>>19856233
>butterfly wants to finish together with you
AT LAST
AAAHHHHHHH

>>19863792
Boredom is important. Being bored is vital if you want to live a free man.

>>19871538
Your will is your own. Are they forcibly preventing you? No. It is your choice. You've decided to give up because it seemed easier. But as you're discovering, the anguish isn't worth the ease. Stop blaming other people for your own choices.

>>19873918
Same. I wanna leave, but some oldfags in this thread are making more mature points than just "see you tomorrow"

Why the fuck would I leave this place? I've been here since my early teenage years. It's the only place where I don't feel alienated. I've learned more things on here than I ever have either in school or in university. I hate the world and I hate people, 4chan is a respite from all this and I see no reason why I should stop coming here.

I'm an aging gen Xer, and at its best, /lit/ gives me hope that there are smart, hopeful young men somewhere still reading old books that the mainstream culture is never going to expose them to.
The discussion quality may be usually low, but the variety of literature at least mentioned and put on the table is heartening.

>>19875875
>You've decided to give up because it seemed easier.
No, I gave up because I saw nothing at the end of it. This was never a matter of convenience, I always knew that I was taking a miserable path. You're like a retard who wants me to jump off a cliff while flapping my arms and calling me a coward because I know I won't take off. And I know why: this is what people do now whenever someone's over the edge or in a crisis, you entertain yourselves. Everything is entertainment to you.