/lit/ - Literature

>>19831239
damn... one great writer... i kneel

>>19831239
All of those writers suck

Bargain bin bait thread.

>>19831245
>joyce, beckett and rooney are the same person
at last, i see

>>19831296
Off the top of my head I could add Yeats and Wilde. With research I could indubitably add more. Back to r3ddit with you, troll.

>>19831313
>haha i like sally rooney u mad?
>haha trolled xd
Sage.

>>19831328
You have to go back

>>19831239
she's got enough money now
why doesn't she fix that ugly face with surgery?

>>19831239
She's so ugly but she makes me turgid boys

>>19831239
>"Trieste-Zurich-Paris"
>also mostly toured Europe
>some millenial literally who

How does such a small island home repulse so many great writers?

>>19831396
if you're a 'writer' and you get plastic surgery you were never a writer. writers should be ugly

>>19831417
It's a thing with Irish girls I think

>>19831417
For real. She's one of those ugly women where the ugliness doesn't seem really an obstacle and in a strange way kinda enhances her, makes her more unique or something.

>How is such a small island home to so many great writers?
Explain this, Aussies.

>>19831396
>>19831417
you just know her breath smells revolting

Is Rooney actually terrible, good or somewhere in between? I don't want to read her because I feel like I have a pretty good impression of why she gets praised by reviewers etc., but I feel like it's wrong to judge without reading her

>>19831655
I can literally smell it through the screen

>It is said that the effect of eating too much lettuce is "soporific." I have never felt sleepy after eating lettuces; but then I am not a rabbit. They certainly had a very soporific effect upon the Flopsy Bunnies! When Benjamin Bunny grew up, he married his Cousin Flopsy. They had a large family, and they were very improvident and cheerful. I do not remember the separate names of their children; they were generally called the "Flopsy Bunnies." As there was not always quite enough to eat,—Benjamin used to borrow cabbages from Flopsy's brother, Peter Rabbit, who kept a nursery garden. Sometimes Peter Rabbit had no cabbages to spare. When this happened, the Flopsy Bunnies went across the field to a rubbish heap, in the ditch outside Mr. McGregor's garden. Mr. McGregor's rubbish heap was a mixture. There were jam pots and paper bags, and mountains of chopped grass from the mowing machine (which always tasted oily), and some rotten vegetable marrows and an old boot or two. One day—oh joy!—there were a quantity of overgrown lettuces, which had "shot" into flower.

Her style is quite Joycean IMO

>>19831711
>but then I am not a rabbit
KINO

>>19831396
She is cute.

>>19831641
Australia's only for the Irish the English could catch. It's now most famous for literary hoaxes. The Carribbean is so insane because it's a mix of ones they caught and ones that refused to recognise England's conversion to Protestant royalty. The ones that thought royalty was only Catholic made it inland and tried to become poet kings again, to reasonable success. The Canadians kept them all on an island, which is why Canada suffers from terminal YA. The Irish are like rats that get everywhere and then get jobs where they can add lies to the record. It's how we got the Bible in large part.
tl;dr- Irish people a language virus and Australia is only one of their many victims

>>19831755
I hope you realize you made zero sense

>>19831313
As Sally has pointed out, Yeats was fascist
Do better.

>>19831239
>thread about Irish authors
>zero posts about books
>20 shitposts and 1 schizo
>mfw

>>19831692
She has decent prose I think, but Normal People is such a cringe story. Not only is it a female power fantasy because the quirky nerd girl gets to fuck the Chaddest of the Chads at her school, but it also treats love as a pathetic thing that really doesn't have any value, so the main character sacrifices love for going to university to get an education and a career.

It's pretty clear it's written to an audience of future childless cat ladies.

>>19832404
I got the sense that it's the kind of book that is portrayed as transgressive while not being at all. I might read it for entertainment value though

>>19832598
>the kind of book that is portrayed as transgressive while not being at all.

Just like the rest of our society.

>>19831711
>It is said that the effect of eating too much lettuce is "flatulative." I have never felt gassy after eating lettuces; but then I am not that sorta girl. They certainly had a very flatulative effect upon the Flop House Cunnies! Even before Wilhelmina Cunny grew up, she had already joined a bordello, full of other young cunnies looking to make there way in the big bad wolfish world. They were a large "family": very improvident and cheerful. I do not remember the separate names of the girls, who totaled sum twenty (tho not even one was as old as that); they were indeed generally known as the "Flop House Cunnies," for reasons that should be self-explanatory to anyone over the age of ten. As there was not always quite enough to eat,—Wilhelmina used to borrow cabbages from the mother of one of the other girls, Petra Fanny, who kept a nursery garden. Sometimes Petra Fanny had no cabbages to spare. When this happened, the Flop House Cunnies went across the field to a rubbish heap, in the ditch outside Mr. McGregor's garden (who happened to be an old perv, but that's another story). Mr. McGregor's rubbish heap was a mixture. There were discarded chamber pots, used condoms and wrappers, and mountains of horse manure from the stables next door (which made the ground feel warm at all hours), and some rotten vegetable marrows and a time-ravaged bloomer or two. One day—oh joy!—there were a quantity of overgrown lettuces, which had "shot" into flower. The Flop House Cunnies filled their skirts with as many lettuce heads as they could carry and streamed back into the bordello to make a cauldron's worth of cabbage, carrot, cucumber and egg yolk soup. Afterwards they all indeed became highly flatulative, with bellies big with cabbage gas, and bloomers filtering sonorous wind after sonorous wind of odoriferous cabbage and sulphurous eggs...

why is everyone on /lit/ upset with Sally Rooney

did some news or litcrit site say shit like "she's the next joyce" or something or are you all just making up something to be mad about

I'm gonna need more of a justification for these threads than the fact that she's a woman and has had commercial success

>>19831245
I know Rooney is pretty good

>>19831262
how can one frog be this erotic? jesus

>>19833231
Nobody here reads any contemporary novels at all, so Rooney is the synedoche they use to justify what they know, deep down, to be intellectual laziness. Same with Rupi Kaur

>>19831239
Been collecting those sorta books myself

>>19831239
>Great writers
>Lists a bunch of faggots and women

>James Joyce
>Samuel Beckett
>Sally Rooney
>Yeats
>Wilde

Please note that these are ALL English names (perhaps with the exception of Rooney, which is an anglicised form of an Irish name). Very interesting. All great "Irish" authors are ethnically English, with Irish names (and hence genetics) hardly producing anything of interest.

>>19833383
Beckett is French.

>>19833317
we had many good threads with people discussing Rooney's books and other Irish authors a while back. but this thread is shit and full of brits.

>>19833383
What about all the great American writers with Irish heritage?

>>19833317
Rupi Kaur as a target has the benefit of being a legitimately awful writer, though

>>19831239
Call for Sally Rooney memes.

>>19833454

>>19833403
>Beckett is French.
No, it isn't (except in a tiny minority of cases). It is an Anglo-Saxon name. And besides, even if it was, it would still signify non-Irish ancestry.

>>19833429
What about them?
Anyway, none are on the same level of acclaim as the so-called "Irish" authors listed in this thread, maybe asides from F.S Fitzgerald

>>19833383
>Calling Lady Wilde English
wew lad

>>19833463
>What about them? Anyway, none are on the same level of acclaim as the so-called "Irish" authors listed in this thread, maybe asides from F.S Fitzgerald

No matter, you just have bad taste. Carry on.

>>19833383
Muhammad Ali had an Arabic name, and as such he must have been an Arab. When he was Cassius Clay, of course, he was an Englishman

>>19833569
Don't forget Englishman Derek Walcott

>>19833569
Well, funnily enough, the authors listed have actual English ancestry, and weren't the result of American-slavery-related name changes.

>>19833608
>>19833586
>>19833569
Go to /his/.

>>19833231
She did shit on Yeats. Her justification for it was that Yeats was fascist and supported the good guys in the Spanish Civil War. I don’t like her but I still say that she should get a pass on the day of the rope for her virulent anti-semitism.

>>19833463
Eugene O’Neill for drama. His dad was straight off the boat from potato land.

>>19833317
Writing a novel about teenagers in love sprinkled iwith milquetoast Marxism and feminist theory is the most intellectually lazy thing you can do though anon, but I bet you think you're really smart.

>>19831262
The girl in picrel looks good at sucking cahk.

>>19833454
>Sally Rooney!

>>19833703
Praising a leftist for being "antisemitic" because they don't like Israel is like praising a fat chick for having big tits. Doesn't count

>>19831239
what do you call this phenotype?

I love Sally threads.

There are many stretches of road in Australia where you can travel ten times the length of Ireland and see maybe a dozen cars.

>>19831239
Sally Rooney the industry plant

>>19831632
I know exactly what you mean. What causes this? What flips the switch from "the perfect face for a radio host," to enchantingly ugly? It's definitely not good prose, as demonstrated.

>>19835515
Is called having strong facial features.

>>19831239
Sally is already done. Her new novel is just more of the same for the third time, but worse. In the coming decades she may write a hit here and there, but she's won't be seen as a great writer. I think the only book of hers that will be reminded is be Conversations with Friends, and mostly for Bobbi, who is a genuinely great character, but I seriously doubt Rooney will ever strike gold again. Conversations with Friends and, to a lesser degree, Normal People are like those inspired albums made by a technically mediocre band that for a short period of time where in complete synchronicity with the Zeitgeist and made genuinely great music because of it, but after that window is over they can't ever repeat it again.

>>19835545
I think you’re right. I was crazy about this girl at work who had this big fucking nose.

>>19831632
She looks hideous with a bob cut with bangs, but with other styles she's weirdly cute.

>>19831755
absolutely schizo post

>>19831755
>Newfies cursed Canada with Delaney and Atwood
Tell me more

>>19831755
based schizo

>>19831755
based

>>19833906
>Praising a leftist for being "antisemitic" because they don't like Israel is like praising a fat chick for having big tits. Doesn't count

It's not even as good as this. Leftists hate Israel for all the wrong reasons, and they typically combine hatred for Israel with pronounced philosemitism elsewhere.

Their objection to Israel is its unashamed "blood and soil" commitment to its own sovereignty. They hate it for doing all the things that Western countries *ought* to do.

>>19831239
Rooney is a bad writer at best

>>19836523
Leftists think Israel is literally Hitler and therefore canceled but they always cope with this by saying Zionism is racist against Jews or something tiringly absurd such as that.
If you want to see a a leftist who finally saw the light, decided to be honest and began to call out the Jew you should look into Horst Mahler.
As for Rooney, boring person boring books. She wrote well about a time in Ireland and elsewhere when many good men and women with good qualities were twisted by the system into sometime more Savage and base. All through her books is the desire for a normal life involving a man and kids but fashionable leftist sentiments stand in the way of that all the time.
It will not be remembered as a good era, and neither should it be.