/lit/ - Literature

>>19828367
Lol. Down the barrel of what? A hard cock?

>>19828377
The barrel of the dirty thirties

find a good woman and start a family. if you're completely in the gutter with no skills, get educated, go to college or trade school or anything

Don't listen to the loser telling you to not get educated, it will increase your chances of finding a woman

>>19828385
i went to grad school and found a bunch of international girls, was pretty disappointing. i did date a rich chinese girl for a bit.

right now im dating a local gal that has a lot of baggage.

>>19828367
Lol hi Josh.

>>19828390
im not josh.

Is this book good? I hear its just about a old roastie wishing she had a kid, i need that kind of misery rn

>>19828389
>local girls
Never. They’re the femal equivalent of dating a used car salesman or a weed dealer

>>19828367
Men Amongst the Ruins

>All the Pretty Horses
>The Crossing
>Cities of the Plain

Make sure to read them all in succession.

>>19828385
>get educated
>at 28
lol why do 18 year old NEETs insist so much on playing armchair career coach?

>>19828424
They just don't know yet bro...leave them be

>>19828424
I'm educated enough anyways, job is good, I'm not a neet or struggle with women other than not being able to treat them with dignity nor respect. It's the feeling of settling into time that I have right now. Every week that passes gets faster, but if I don't pay close attention I wouldn't know it. My youth is literally dying as we speak.

>>19828384
Oh. Yeah sorry, that's a bad time.

>>19828456
How would you know fella.

>>19828449
After 25 you're done growing, you're in the rest of your life phase. You're supposed to get in the idea of making yourself comfortable. Imagine that you've built a house somewhere. You spent all those years sawing and building. Now it's up and it's supposed to be inhabitable. What you should do now is find a nice comfy chair to read on, a nice rug, a place for your balsa wood airplanes, to get some wine in the cellar and so on. If you think about your life as a metaphor and you don't see something unstable that is leaking water from the roof, or no house at all because it crashed upon you twice or thrice, but a bare little house that needs furnishing, you're good.

How do you do this to yourself? Life passes regardless. The whinging is insufferable.

>>19828501
True.

>>19828466
I'm 33, son.

>>19828449
read the tatar steppe

>>19828367
Of Human Bondage by W. Somerset Maugham.
It's about a young man struggling to make his way in the world and find meaning in life.

>>19828424

It's possible to get a 4 year degree and a real job, but you're not going to have an easy time networking with peers. I was 4 years out when I started my degree and it was stigmatized. That said, you may still be able to impress professors and gain contacts through work or family. And if you cannot land an internship for social reasons, you can still get your damn certificate and leave. With CS you may at least have programming projects to show off, but your job opportunities will be worse

Life happens fast and it's a vicious rat race. Unplugging is deadly. Having been NEET for 3 years I can tell you personally that there's no going back. If you manage to find a partner she's likely going to be shitty and defective

>>19828621
you neeted right out of high school? Thats not neeting, thats being a retard

>>19828644

Yeah you're right

>>19828644
On the plus side, he got to jerk off to a lot of internet pornography.

>waah waah your life is over at 26 if you have dont a degree and good job by then
Typical loser talk desu. So yes, if you are a loser, this is probably applicable.

>>19828663

I don't compulsively browse pornography. Feels bad having some hideous defective nerd status mog me on 4chan

>>19828621
In my CS program all the older students had more success networking than the younger ones. I had to do a semester long group project with a 27 year old and a 40 year old and it was great. They got shit done.

>>19828367
Read locked room mysteries and plan out your most masterful suicide

>>19828367
No Longer Human. It'll show you that even having women, money and affluence, life is still meaningless. This will either make you want to kill yourself more or you'll realize your failures are meaningless.

>>19828665
You don't understand my post zoomer

Life is over in your late twenties regardless

I just want books to comfort me on the topic.

>>19828367
unironically crime and punishment
https://www.26reads.com/library/19590-crime-and-punishment

>>19828644
I did the same thing and I am definitely retarded

>>19828728
I feel like that's a good pick more specifically for people with attachment disorders

>>19828621
I was a neet for 10 years. Only death is deadly.

>turning 28 in 2 weeks

What am i in for?

20 somethings shouldn't be allowed to make statements about life

>>19828644
Maan, I ended up quitting university after I finished hs but ended up neeting for a year and now I'm wagecucking for another one while applying for another uni and course. May of this year will mark 2 years after hs. I feel like I'm ngmi both abroad and back home

>>19828910
depression but being ok with it

>>19828488
based and comfy post. where does the subject of wife and kids come in. why does this ho think she can boss me around in my own home.

>>19828910
A whole lot more of whatever you did for the last 27 years

>29 in three months
>NEET
>autism
>about 1000 in the bank
>meme humanities degree acquired
>virgin

I would like to hear your advice please and thank you

>>19829012
>book recommendation
Any chemistry book, learn how to make mustard gas
>board recommendation
/diy/, ask them how to tie a knot

>>19829012
Just get a job. It doesn't matter what, just get one. That would be a start

>>19828367
I know the feeling anon. 28-29 was when I wanted to neck it the most. Read some books that you will actually enjoy. If you have to force yourself to read something, simply move on to something else. Ask God to help you out. I’m serious. I’m 30 now and laugh my prior suicidal thoughts. Buck up, bucko. You’ve got frens

>>19828377
God I wish.

>thinking about suicide
>talks about God
Yeah you're going to hell along with the homosex

>>19828910
Late 20s are brutal but it gets easier in your 30s.

>>19829060
What's supposed to be hard about one's late 20s? You wouldn't be making the mistake of... comparing yourself to others and socializing with other human beings, would you? t. a good bit older than that

>>19829012

Get a job, be more modest (or pretend to be), take up more conventional interests like sportsball and tv shows. Watch the superbowl, pretend to have a favorite team. Fuck a couple prostitutes, try your hand at dating. You made a bad mistake of getting a humanities degree without networking or going to law school. What caused you to be disconnected for so long? You should have planned this out ahead of time. You could become a self taught programmer if you're good enough at it, it's harder now to get a job without a degree but still possible

>>19828367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOC55RNd5gk

>>19829103
>turn yourself into a cog, cosume, adopt an NPC mentality
Wow ... so this is how they reproduce

>>19829124
If you want to "have your shit together" and be accepted by the masses, then yeah that's what you need to do

>Just like ... give up free will bro! Just live out the rest of your life like a cattle bro! It's totally worth it
t. NPC

>>19828488
Terrifying. If I ever become like this I hope someone shoots me.

>>19828728
i cant take the whining of people like that seriously

>>19828389
And not it’s Friday night and you are on 4chan
>tfw only so many fridays left in 20s
>tfw haven’t gone out in weeks

>>19829129
Imagine living for something as menial as public acceptance.
Fuck everyone, do whatever you want. You don’t get a second chance once you are dead. Wealth and affluence are memes/psy ops. Once you are in the rat race it will never be enough no matter what you do
>t. left 6 figure finance job to become a rancher in Canada. Only regret is not leaving earlier

>>19829103
>>19829129
Anyone have an tips on at least pretending to be this way but with as little effort as possible? Like I don't want to spend hours of my life watching fucking sportsballs or listening to top 40s and keeping up with the artists lives and shit like everyone else, but I need to figure out a way to make it seem like i do

>>19829210
Nicely done anon. A lot of people dont realize you can live an incredibly comfortable life in a rural area working for yourself. Earn more with the same effort as you would in the city working a soul crushing job 6 figure job.

>>19829232

In my late 20s they were blaring ESPN radio all day, and I got some of it by osmosis that way. After a while I decided to play some quizzes and just learn the names of pro teams, some bits of trivia, etc.

Once I learned a few basics I was surprised that being able to chat politely about sports makes idle conversation with heterosexual men about a hundred times easier.
I never actually watch sports but it's easy to keep track of amusing things if you casually browse past normie trash media.

>>19829232
Check your newspapers/their website daily or twice a day. Once in the morning, once in the evening. Check Youtube, just the frontpage as well.

Now you are up to date.

>>19828384
it's not so bad zoomer

>>19829232
I would suggest learning the bare minimum amount of news for a few sports and if you find yourself in a conversation about sport don't be afraid to ask questions. I wouldn't try to pretend to know more than you do, but a few names / which teams are good this year etc. etc. can be enough. Don't be afraid of asking simple questions: e.g. "ah so why do you support X team?" or "oh I don't really follow X sport very closely but I saw that X player just joined Y team." People like to talk and most people will be happy to rattle on about a team they like or hate if you give them the opportunity. People also like teaching other people, so you can use your ignorance as an advantage so long as you come across as open minded and not holier then thou. That way you get to learn more about the sport and you are having a conversation at the same time.

>>19828488
>Why do you think I blew up your apartment?

>>19829129
Its getting worse than that. Its almost getting to the point where if you want a life at all you need a hustle job. Min wage jobs you pretty much have to live at home or with a roommate or eat rice and beans.

>>19828390
i'm 27 idiot

>>19828367
Oh no, these arbitrary age categories are too much for me!

>>19828925
This. I mostly ignore life advice or even recommendations for books unless you're at least 30. Most men are retarded until they settle in whether it's bad or good circumstances. Women are retarded forever so I always disregard their opinions.

>>19828424
>18 year old NEETs
Are you describing yourself?

>>19828488
Are you a teenager?
25 year olds are dumbfuck kids barely out of high school/college

>>19828702

If you're older and you actually have money and life experience, but if you look the same age as them but are several years older you will be seen as shitty and weird. And I noticed the people who "network" through very formal arrangements like students clubs and organizations tended to be shitty people. Even worse gay nerds than the usual STEM majors.

What I hated most about CS majors is that their spergery and ugliness doesn't amount to any separate virtues pertaining to them that could make them likeable in spite of their obvious flaws. It's just that in addition to shitty humiliating rap and sports talk, you have to talk about fucking anime and put up with a token tranny. In America there is this harsh divide between conformity and self respect that the majority of people are not even able to perceive and it makes me want to hunt them down and eat them

>>19828367
You missed out on the 27 Club, might as well keep going Anon.

Write.

What a pathetic post full of pathetic people. Go outside you delusional retards. Imagine being in your 20s acting like anything but being a professional athlete is off the table. Don't just go outside, talk to people and get some perspective beyond this odd internet shutin conception of time and age.
My personal story? I was a NEET at 24 with no degree, no friends, no skills, no money, and no connections. Now at 33 I'm a relatively successful architect about to open my own firm and have a child. In the past 10 years I've done so much and created so many memories, and I still feel like I'm barely getting started.
Just do something you imbeciles. Reminder: of you're in your 20s, everybody 40+ sees you like a kid. My former boss was in his 70s and grouped up all employees under 35 as one big block of stupidity

>>19829929
It's such a terrible mindset but so common for some reason, thinking it's too late at x age to do whatever. If you think it's bad now at 25, wait till you get to 35 and are forced to think about all the time you wasted because you assumed it was too late to change

>>19828367
Julius evola, Revolt Against the Modern World.

Or bronze age Mindset. if your not a bit\g reader.

>>19829946

If OP is really that impressionable at 28, a sudden initiation into rightwing LARP spergery will be the final nail in the coffin

>>19828367 (OP)
Julius Evola, Revolt Against the Modern World.

Or bronze age Mindset. if your not a big reader.

>>19829941
It is very odd. I was somewhat in this mindset back then but started just looking up successful architects, famous and not very well known, and nearly all around my age at the time were at most just in university, and the majority not even studying yet. Most did not even begin practicing until their thirties. This took a huge burden off my shoulders and made me realize how stupid I was being.
And it's not only for architecture, you can see this for the majority of pursuits. The well known young prodigies are miniscule compared to the well known normal aged figures.
And this isn't that healthy of a mindset either, comparison to others on anything but basics of life gets you nowhere. Just make a plan and then see if you are satisfied with the time frame. Once you are, get to work

>>19828367

>>19829929
>>19829941
Because this board is full of snowflake retards who thought that because they got an A+ on their high school Shakespeare test they were destined to become the next great writer. Now they are in their 20s and haven’t reached the impossible standards they set for themselves so they live their entire lives through the lens of this failure. I went through it from 22-25 and only now at 27 am I starting to realize what a faggot I was for thinking this way.

>>19828384
dirty thirties < thirty dirties

>>19829922
I've been thinking maybe I should go back to school and lie about my age

>>19830155

You can't since you are expected to use socmedia. Only snapchat has an expectation of privacy, even though it's incidental. Humble bragging on socmedia, or at least offering a passive breadcrumb trail (a qrd) of your life is what you're meant to do

>>19829998
Fictions are for teenagers, hardly a good recommendation for adults

>>19830169
Or just don’t be a faggot and have no social media, live life on your own terms. That shit leeches the brain right out of your skull

>>19830155
Depends on your age. If you're under 27-28 there is no reason to lie and if you're older nobody will believe the lie unless you look like a twink

>>19830185

Then you will have trouble socializing with people. "Going back to school" as a purely pragmatic thing is fine, but I wouldn't waste time trying to befriend zoomies if you're more than a couple years out of place, since that means you are fundamentally out of the loop.

>>19830187

That's very generous, at least in America. Starting college with more than 1 gap year is seen as very unusual and comes at a huge social cost. Doesn't mean it's not worth doing, just be sure to exercise and abuse drugs if you have to in order to cope with the loneliness.

>>19830213
>at least in America. Starting college with more than 1 gap year is seen as very unusual and comes at a huge social cost
Wtf are you basing this on? I transferred to a UC at 24 years old and it was the most unremarkable occurrence you see there. How old are you?

>>19830213
You're a shut in loser incel projecting your experience as a transcendental fact of life

>>19830213
>Starting college with more than 1 gap year is seen as very unusual and comes at a huge social cost
wtf are you talking about

>>19830231
>>19830235
>>19830237

relieved to see this instinctive rejection of the above hyper-sensitive, "oversocialized" post. I didn't know what to do with it but now we have four people expressing instinctive revulsion. The sentiment that people not using social media seems obvious enough, but the mere one-year gap played up in the post is clearly playing on insecurities. It may be a very good troll.

>>19830213
I am literally middle aged and in college. Why do you care so much what retarded children think of you.

>>19830264
Is this a fucking literary review of a shitpost?

>>19830275

>/lit/

>NOOOOO DON'T CRAFT SENTIMENTS JUST TYPE IN SHITTY DEGRADED MULATTO TEXT LANGUAGE WTF ARE YOU DOING WRITING NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Late 20's and into your 30's are legitimately the best years of your life. As a general rule, you have enough life experience to at least know yourself a bit better. You are no longer as impressionable as you were at 18-25. People older than you now care slightly more at what you have to say.
>>19829060
How are your late 20's brutal? What the fuck is this based on? If it's something stupid like thinking about "lost youth" or similar garbage instagram thots spew out, then kill yourself. You are a young man until about 40.
>>19829929
>Reminder: of you're in your 20s, everybody 40+ sees you like a kid.
Absolutely correct. Even in your early thirties. If you are in your late 20's now, compare yourself to a 18-year-old. That's how older people view you.

>>19829929
nice larp

>>19830187
I went to college when I was 18, just one of my friends being a year older than the rest of us was weird. There weren't any 24 year old freshman and if there were it would have been the absolute weirdest possible thing. Like I mean you'd be pushing 30 at graduation time with a bunch of 22 year olds.
It's different if you're talking community colleges and local colleges though of course, there are people of all ages at those.
But I mean university? You're probably better off lying. Unless you are actually better enough than everyone else there to pull off being everyone's cool older brother in which case you're golden. Or you wanna just keep to yourself.
I guess it'd also work if you commuted from home, I dunno how living in dorms would go. Though in freshman year our RAs were seniors and depending on who it was they were pretty fun.

In the end it's like a 24 year old in their senior year of high school. University is really just an extension of that, practically speaking.

>>19830300
>when you're so demoralized from terminally spending your life online that the idea of someone making an effort to improve their life instantly seems like a LARP to you
touch grass

>>19830295
>Late 20's and into your 30's are legitimately the best years of your life.
maybe if you're rich

>>19829549
I live in the midwest and work the equivalent of a min wage level job (13-15 an hour). I have over 7.5k in savings and add at least 3k to my savings per year. Usually closer to 5k average. I live alone in a single apartment and drive a used car. My savings are so low because I periodically neet it up for sometimes years on end. I only need 12k to cover an entire year's worth of expenses. I used to get by on 10k a year, but I upgraded my apt from living with roommates and the cost of everything spiked.

I've been doing this shit since 18 while still in highschool earning 8 an hour. The only secret is cook your own damn food, the savings are insane. My freezer is stocked with 15+ prepared frozen dinners and 15+ frozen breakfasts I make as needed. An undervalued perk of the service industry is covering the cost of 1/3 of your meals per day. I actually splurge on my regular food expense because I enjoy cooking. My food budget is 1.5 times more than it could be if I was purely cost driven.

I could easily find a better paying job in my area. I make no effort to because I love my current job. Amazing coworkers and a pleasant work environment is worth way more than more money to me. The blue collar meme is real. When the culture inevitably sours (all good things come to an end) I'll jump ship and drift elsewhere with zero time crunch due to my savings.

My hobbies and goals are entirely achievable. I possess the means to accomplish all of them and only lack for will power and discipline. Nothing else is holding me back but myself and I consider myself deeply blessed to be in such a situation.

How did I end up as such a creature? A severely bad breakup with my oneitis early in adulthood that fermented into one hell of an avoidant attachment complex. I became uber self reliant to a degree of absurdity. Getting older has helped me scale back the negatives and I thankfully have no intimacy issues or hangups. It has left a lasting impression on my interests. I am only interested in what I can accomplish alone without the support of anyone else. This is a limiting factor itself on what I can accomplish because some tasks require a group.

>>19830308
I mean, you got 3 people to reply seriously. Good job. It was a compliment. Good shitpost.

>>19830309
It is still socially acceptable to do everything you did at 18-25 except you are no expected to be self-reliant. The only real things I've noticed are hangovers are getting worse and I can't stay up all night and be fine the next day like I was at 18.

>>19830301
First off, nobody but other 18 year olds want to hang out with 18 year olds, and if somebody is its because there are 18 year old girls attached to your social circle, they are not there for you. I can't think of a worse way to spend my time than hanging out with college freshman age past the age of 20.
And, for me, I transferred to University at 24, graduated at 25. Not once unless I was hanging out with freshman aged kids did I ever feel like I was out of place. Finding 23, 24, 25, 26 year olds was a simple as talking to some people in your classes. It was extremely normal and all of them. This is a major California public university in the middle of a major city(UCLA).
Actually in terms of academics and success with women the older age was beneficial. And nobody but college freshman kids live in dorms.
Your entire experience while may be true for yourself is not a proper representation of the vast majority of people attending university. You sound like you went to some tiny little no name private liberal arts college
>In the end it's like a 24 year old in their senior year of high school.
What a moronic statement, you're a college graduate and you think this makes sense?

>>19830300
The fact that you think my extremely average and unremarkable claims must be a lie says much more about you than it does about me. I feel bad for you, because you are a child now, but won't be for much longer. Enjoy wasting your life
>>19830325
That's not me

>>19830300
You should take the advice and go outside

>>19828385
>what should a miserable, most likely genetic trash, person do?
>create more miserable defective beings of course!

>>19830394
Look up worldwide projections for how humanity is going to grow, per continent (race). You're in for a treat my friend.

>>19830403
>>>/tv/
Go back

>>19828424
Because they haven't yet been to university or college to know how much of a waste of time these institutions are. Drop out of university and hit the books if you want to get an education. What happened to the School of Hard Knocks?

>>19828488
what the fuck are you talking about? you're still dumb as hell at 25. most adults would consider you a kid. you're a totally different at 30 than you were at 25

what compels college kids with no life experience at all to speak with an air of authority on 'life' to people a decade older than them

>>19828367
This book called Nihilism by Seraphim Rose and the Bible.

Honestly. I don't blame you for being this way, as much as people can go all boomer and say (Well get up on your bootstraps bucko!!). Well, I didn't want to be raised in a post-truth Fukiyama hellscape where everything was sincere including religion, the family, etc. has been destroyed and we're somehow supposed to pick up the pieces of this mess. Not to mention the hordes of mindless nu-males and basketcase women which we have to deal with every day. Our society has been stripped, for centuries, of our real identity and our purpose.

Well, this book helps with understanding that. Before anyone gets excited its a refutation of nihilism and a diagnosis of the historical events that lead to the collapse of western society and the revolutionary ideologies (leftism, feminism, poststructuralism) which dominate us. It helped me immensely as I left secularism towards Orthodoxy. That being said, I'm not an angel but I understand my place and that my destiny and existence is not under my authority but from something above.

>>19828559
Yeah but he achieves that way before he's 28. Not sure it's the best recc

>>19830462
because workplaces don't want to see school of hard knocks on your resume you stupid fucking boomer

>>19830493
>you're still a child at 25!! even at 30 you're not a man yet!
I don't keep soijak pics but you really deserve one. retard.

>>19828367
Read Xenophon. I am serious. His writings in the Oikonomikus and Memories of socrates contain so much wisdom that will help you.
Continue with the Havamal and then back to the romans with Seneca.
If you are really depressive maybe start with Seneca.
Let your old being be washed away and replaced with steel.

Also start reading nonfiction books that actually help you reorganizing your life like "getting things done", start learning something by endulding in meaningfull hobbies. (building stuff, learning about culture, dancing, learning languages....; watching movies or being a youtuber are no goes though. productive is the name of the game)

Follow that for 5 years and your life will be 1000 times better!

>>19828399
Dunno but that cover photo really scares me. The woman's eyes look dead

>>19828367
East of eden by Steinbeck helped me.
It is an easy read, full of humor but gives an optimistic view on the human condition that resonated with me.

I’m 30. if you have good friends life is great, so much so I will be moving to a region where I’ll be closer to a lot more acquantinces.

Unfortunately American men tend to lead boring lives once they hit 30 and I am not dying in this cultureless coffin they call the United States.

Get a woman who won’t treat you like shit, isn’t a recluse, and/or has untreated mental issues. She’ll be your window to friendships

t. 30 year okd

>>19828367
>staring down the barrel

>>19828367
War and Peace
I don't want to spoil too much but there is a major character whose life gets wrecked, including his wife dying. He isn't a bad guy, but basically is just existing with little purpose for a while. It gets better. Turn around happens at age 31 too, so might be a better fit than a book about some guy barely old enough to drink.

Start pursuing a PhD...right...now

I can only tell you what I did. Put lots of effort into getting ripped and handsome, girls will naturally want to talk to you, pick the weird girl that you'd relate to better but has issues like you, be smart with whatever money you earn, and focus on small increments of success. Everyone is going to pressure you into reaching milestones whether that is a relationship, a good job, or a house. Just know that many of them have lives that you wouldn't be too jealous of. Their houses are poorly built and full of stupid shit, their job is only nice when they get their direct deposit, and their significant other has one of the most shallow relationships ever with them. That isn't to say no one has nice things that you don't, but the ones that do typically know that you can't pressure a person into success. It's okay to think long term, but short, small goals add up the more consistent you are. A famous youtuber lived on my street and I thought about how nice his life was one day and it happened to be that he died that day in his late 40s leaving his wife and kids behind. The man had a very good life that he worked hard for, but he paid for all the roids he did. You can't have everything and must sacrifice something. Good advice is rarely shared and mostly kept secret. Any shame you have or from others is under your control. Go watch some third worlder on YouTube have a fun life with much less than you. You have time, but you are afraid to start because it's the most difficult part.

Veronika Decides to Die by Paulo Coelho

>>19831972
trash

>>19830295
My early 20s were way, way better than what my late 20s are right now, I don't know if there is a general rule. I believe there are cycles yes but they differ for everyone

>>19831987
Decent for averting the barrel, at least for a little while and kinda fun. Viktor Frankl's Man's Search For Meaning is more serious and probably would stick longer, has some sense of black humor in the face of holocaust things.

>>19830876
I wish I were able to fall for copes like these

I am a 24 year old neet on autismbux who lives alone in a relatively comfy single-room apartment in a big city.
I have no degree, no skills, no friends, no life experience, and no real desire to partake in the world because I don't like it. Right now the mid term plan is to just rot away as a neet because the other two options (trying to join normalfag society, and suicide) are both unappealing for different reasons. But is there a third option that isn't just inaction? Monkhood just seems like a cope since there's no organized religion I believe in, and I have no real interests or hobbies I could devote myself to either

>>19832199
Bump

>>19832199
You can kinda survive and do whatever hobbies/art/recreation you like. That's an option plenty take as long as you can handle being content with your situation.

>>19832318
>hobbies/art/recreation
That's what I'm doing but it feels ultimately meaningless. There's something lacking. Is this lack an inherent part of existence?

>>19828367
I cant believe I was 28 when this corona shit started, kek

>>19828424
I'm 28 and on my third degree (all free). Cope lol.

>>19832321
You should figure out what happiness is and work towards it. Personally I've found that early Buddhism makes a lot of sense to me, even though I don't buy the gods and rebirth stuff.
You could look into the Greek concept of Eudaimonia.
You don't have to cope and latch onto some ideology you know is nonsense though. It's tempting to many people, but it ends up causing them pain.

>>19832418
>figure out what happiness is
Have you?
>early Buddhism
The Pali Canon texts, is that it?
Do you follow the whole eightfold path practice and so on?
I agree with the core Buddhist ideas but without rebirth I don't see the reason not to kill yourself in order to end suffering.

>>19832363
lmao ok. I genuinely hope it will pay off for you anon

>>19832363

Nice rofl. Plan to pursue a 4th or 5th? I want to study, biomechanically, how pussy and cum works

>>19828367
Gravity's Rainbow

>>19828406
>Men Amongst the Ruins
>>19828412
>>All the Pretty Horses
>>The Crossing
>>Cities of the Plain
>>19828559
>Of Human Bondage by W. Somerset Maugham.
>>19828728
>No Longer Human.
>>19828860
>crime and punishment
>>19829961
>Julius Evola, Revolt Against the Modern World.
>>19829998
>>19830876
>Nihilism by Seraphim Rose and the Bible.
>>19831368
>Xenophon
>>19831393
>East of eden by Steinbeck
>>19831629
>War and Peace
>>19831972
>Veronika Decides to Die by Paulo Coelho
>>19832673
>Gravity's Rainbow

Thanks guys

>>19832702
you're welcome anon

>>19828449
do something different then. come the fuck on, mobilize yourself. i'm 27 and happy because i made decisions that served me in the long run. i got a degree (plus master's degree), landed a remote white collar job, and now i travel the world, fuck foreign women, and work on my novel in my spare time. it helps that I played a lot of sports when i was younger so i'm very athletic and have pretty good genes looks-wise, but this isn't necessary. I usually rent rooms in hostels and have met countless great guys from all over, all round our age, living their best life, connecting with fellow men, hooking up with women, finding their way. you will too if you envision what you want and start pursuing it.

>>19832749
What if there is no way to be found
Some people are not meant for anything
Actually most people are meant for nothing; they're just usually dumb enough to not be bothered by this

>>19832749

I would hate the company you keep and be unsatisfied if I were you

>>19828399
It's about the death of her daughter (which happened pretty soon after the death of her husband)

>>19832166
Yea the world is retarded, if i can cope with something at least its god.

>>19828367
>It's another loser support group thread

>>19833354
welcome

>>19830317
I see myself in this but avoided the break up part by being bitch and putting myself into a situationship that ended relatively horrible.

Still a student right now so enjoying the loans i can get from my government but almost done with bachelors. If I don't get a job in my field i will probably do this for a while if not my entire life. Godspeed to you anon

>>19830462
>hit the books
>School of Hard Knocks
lol are you fucking kidding me?

>>19832623
Naw he could just suck dick at some random job like you do

>>19828367
Get certified as a piano tuner and live that easy life bro
>set your own schedule
>work is interesting but not difficult
>High pay, low hours

>>19830213
Im a zoomie myself but honestly idk if you're fucking retarded or in actual hell. Zoomies are just people and if the normal ones are avoiding you and you are only seeing the socmedia brats then you might blend more with them than the normals.

>>19830273
I fucking hope that any adult with a functional brain takes most of the shit i say with a huge grain of salt 'cause even i realize how much shit i still need to learn/experience

Mainstream socmedia doesn't really fucking matter if im real with you. Sure its great for networking and sometimes for job finding but really its just brainfog mostly

t. 22 yo

>>19831820
i saw the other screenshots. This anon is living somewhat more comfortable now working in a christian school as a philosophy teacher if im not mistaken

>>19833536
talk like a normal person and you might find a man

>>19831820
>>19833546
How can one have 450k debt

>>19833587
america

>>19833570
but anon i have you

>>19828488
The insanity of americans truly frightens me

>>19829929
This is cool and all, but I was on an interview board for a prestigious engineering company on the West coast.
If you're 27+ and a new engineering grad, you're going to the bottom of the resume pile. A career change in your late 20s (or even worse, having done nothing or being a NEET during your late teens early 20s) says a lot about your character, and is a pretty good sign that you won't keep up at work. This isn't what I think, personally. It's just the overall sentiment.
Ageism is very commonplace in STEM.

>>19832749
This sounds like a fucking nightmare

>>19833673
Again, every anon should live that piano tuner life. You won't make six figures, but you will be comfortable and have ample free time. No corporate culture to keep up with. It doesn't even have to be piano tuning, but if you want to live the life of the mind and don't have family money, finding a niche skilled job is really the best you can do. Fuck tech jobs, they demand too much of your personhood.

>>19833763
>having fun sounds like a nightmare
lol, you're a giant pussy

>>19833644
Not that guy, but not sure why so many people (typically ones who’ve never had any sort of notable social life) think that life is going to get better as you get older. What reason is there to think that life continues an upward trajectory in joy after college? The amount of new experiences you have decreases, your old friends and family members start dying off, the fact that you’re aging at an accelerated rates becomes more apparent, and even though you’ll probably have more financial stability you come to realize that practically nothing you can afford to buy will bring you as much joy as, say, experiencing Christmas as a child or the first time you held a girl’s hand. And I haven’t even mentioned how incredibly tedious it is to have a career job, where you sometimes spend tens of thousands of hours of your life you’ll never get back dealing with uncultured, bitter idiots. Norman Mailer was probably correct when he said that life is the first 20 years; everything else is just reflection.

>>19830317
I've been thinking of doing this for a while. I neeted it up for most of my twenties, and now have no skills and work a blue collar job that pays okay and I have coworkers who are pleasant to work with. But I have worked there for 6 years now, and I have plenty of savings, and I just want to fucking quit and be unemployed again for a few years. I can afford to. I guess it's just the fear that holds me back a bit, fear of a new way, fear of losing a job where I worked for my pay rises and a comfy job I couldn't easily gain again in a different place. But I am stagnant right now, no doubt, and something has to change.

>>19830317
>>19833879
The having pleasant coworkers thing trumps pretty much everything else. A few months ago I went from working with a great group of people to switching to another job paying twice as much to work with shitty people. I don’t have that much use for the extra money and now I feel depressed all the time due to my work situation. I’ve been offered two different new jobs though so I’m hoping things will change. The people you’re around affect your mood, especially if you’re spending 40+ hours a week dealing with them.

>>19833831
You are depressed and thats why you think like this. How utterly sad. Speak for yoruself, and no one else, loser.
I'm 27 and this year I'll be setting off around the world. Enjoy crying yourself to sleep imagining about what could have been in highschool. Fucking joke.

>>19833673
Who cares about stem niggers? Even if you are out of college at 22 with a degree you'll be passed over for some paki working at 1/6th the cost.

>>19834129
doomer talk

stem is still very good

hiring visa workers is not as attractive

>>19834104
Eh? I'm tall, athletic, have three degrees, worked in publishing and now do administrative work for a literary organization. I have a house by the beach and a girlfriend who loves me. Congrats on your "setting off around the world," dipshit. I'm really glad you were able to buy an airplane ticket so you can go hang out in some hostels. You sound like a big boy.

>>19828367
Henry Miller and Herman Hesse

>>19834190
not him but dude what the fuck are you doing on 4chan
this is where hopes go to die, you are either lying or you have a deep seated dissatisfaction with your life because there's no way, no way in the world you're telling it straight

>>19834129
>22
Funny. Said company considered 22 to be "a dangerous age" because it implied a gap year/starting K-12 late, 21 and 20 were the standard, all things being equal.

I hate technigger culture so much.

>>19834225
I work I tech in the Bay Area and i have never heard of such nonsense. As long as you're under 30 or so it blends together when it comes to hiring
What company is this?

>>19834473
Jane Street

>>19834190
And none of this is better than forcing yourself to go to highschool every morning? Something is truly wrong with you.
Have fun committing suicide in 20 years.

>>19834518
>financefags
OK that makes sense, they are always looking for new ways to keep their boys club and guild system running. Can't put daddy's company or neighborhood born in on the resume so they have to start getting creative with how they can justify the choices.
>t. Worked at the Federal Reserve(econ)

>>19834225
>>19833673
>>19834129
I am so fucking happy I started my own business and avoided all this bullshit. My family came from a country where this type of this is even more powerful, your family name and connections determines 95% of where you end up for life. Grades you got as a preteen determine your life when you're 40. We were religious and ethnic minorities there and were unofficially ostracized for anything actually impactful. Here in the usa I can just identify a problem that needs to he solved, fix it myself, and get paid for it. No hoop jumping monkey dance garbage.

>>19829929
Did you finish your degree before you were 30?

>>19828367

Sounds like you need a therapist, instead of a book. Age, like most things, has as much meaning as you give it.

>>19832749
This is like the normalfagiest normalfag post I’ve ever seen.

>>19833825
No you're just an npc

>>19833831
>nothing you can afford to buy will bring you as much joy as, say, experiencing Christmas as a child or the first time you held a girl’s hand
Holy shit this is fucking brutal
Especially since I never held a girl's hand

>>19833831
>experiencing Christmas as a child
Have children and its the same
>first time you held a girl’s hand
Barely even remember. Getting into a good law school felt better than the first time I had sex and the MILF fuckbuddy I had was 10x more enjoyable than every adolescent relationship I ever had
You're an infantile idiot who has been brainwashed by hollywood

>>19834764
commas, make you, sound like a twat

>>19828367
Can't wait for this to be me

>t. 24 and still feel my life has been wasted up til now

>>19828367
A Hero of Our Time by Lermontov
essentially go out with a bang lad
any bitches get in your way just throw them into the fucking sea

Also everything Mosley wrote, and the speeches.
Taught me how to get ahead in kikeland.

>>19829535
Based

>>19835992
And writing like shit makes you sound like a retard. Not him btw.

>>19835932
>law school
>psychopath values retarded psychopath things
Typical

>>19832749
>but this isn’t necessary.
This is what normgroids ACTUALLY BELIEVE lololol

>>19832702
Happy to help, I mentioned it in a reply, you kinda want "Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl too.

>>19832321
Well there are many philosophies surrounding this, personally I subscribe to the "existence is indeed meaningless and it is up to us to find/make meaning". The important thing is that you should seek such meaning, eventually hopefully you'll find it. Alternatively it is up to you to make meaning of your current existence/circumstances.

>>19828644
are you retarded? when else should he neet? after failing out of college after a few years and racking up six figures? straight out of high school is literally the most logical place in your life to start neeting

>>19828399
joan didion is not a roastie. also, kill yourself.

>>19828548
how is that going to make things better for him lmao

>>19829103
Shallow existence

>>19830317
>>19830317
>How did I end up as such a creature? A severely bad breakup with my oneitis early in adulthood that fermented into one hell of an avoidant attachment complex. I became uber self reliant to a degree of absurdity. Getting older has helped me scale back the negatives and I thankfully have no intimacy issues or hangups. It has left a lasting impression on my interests. I am only interested in what I can accomplish alone without the support of anyone else. This is a limiting factor itself on what I can accomplish because some tasks require a group.
Yeah this same thing kinda happened to me when I graduated out of college. Except I guess I wasn't good enough because I couldn't get a job and then i became even more dependant on others. Now it's manifested itself in all the worst possible ways.

>>19830317
If you take employment gaps in the UK you will not have enough national insurance paid to claim your full pension at retirement age (if you are still alive then).

>>19837778
off by one, seethe

I'm a 26 year old KV whp has spent the past three years alternating between being a NEET and working short-term, low-paying jobs. My life has been inconsistent: being a 'smart' kid, fucking up the end of high school, managing to get into a university and getting a good masters degree in a STEM subject, and then being unable to get a decent job. I simultaneously feel like a complete failure and feel like I could achieve things if I put my mind to it. At this point I'm starting to make peace with the idea that I'm just some kind of schizotypal fringe-case; there is some potential there but too many mental issues to live up to it. I see my life as an experiment. I plan to test all the blackpill theories mentioned in this thread. Is it possible to get a good job if you've been a NEET for multiple years? Is it still possible to get a gf whilst being a virgin in your late 20s? Is it possible to live a fulfilling life after having wasted so much of your youth on the internet and video games? We will see. If the blackpill people are right and I can't turn things around in the next 5 years, then I'll just become a monk and try and reach enlightenment.

Also, I agree with the anon earlier in the thread who recommended The Border Trilogy by McCarthy. The Crossing is the best of the three, but Cities of the Plain is better late-twenties-core.

>>19838894
>At this point I'm starting to make peace with the idea that I'm just some kind of schizotypal fringe-case
Please don't but this. This "schizotypal" psyop doesn't mean shit. It's literally the test stage of the future set up toward criminalizing unhappiness. Unless you hear voices or you think you're Napoleon you are normal. You are a normal person in a terrible time where normal people are being criminalized to make room for social climbing psychopaths and degenerates, because unlike you, those people fit very well in this dysfunctional system and "make the money go round". That is it. Society has first done away with all morality, and now that the obstacle of morality has been removed from the picture of technological mestastasis, they are starting to actively promote immorality. Whatever you want to do, do not buy into this retarded narrative. You know that the world has gone insane and the majority of people are much more dysfunctional than you are behind surface appearances of being healthy and normal, and if they're not actively thinking like psychopaths their brain is flatlining and they go from stimulus to stimulus, pushing a button that gives them a check no matter what the button actually does, doing everything that others do no matter if it's evil or not. Don't buy into this narrative because this narrative wants to break you or kill you.

>>19838938
>schizotypal
I can't think of a better word to describe it. I've always been the weird one even in groups of complete autists. That being said, I agree with what you're saying. It sounds like a cope to say 'I could get a good job, I just think most jobs are immoral', but I think it is true. I was told that doing STEM would get me a good job, but at least half of the jobs I can find are either military contractors or 'data analyst' jobs that are just about harvesting people's data for advertising purposes. What am I supposed to do with a STEM degree when I believe that the technology industry is making our lives worse? Maybe the same could be said for law or politics or even medicine. To be 'functional', you have to be complicit in something that you hate.

So sm00th...only Elmo can feature himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLuK1_QyGo

>>19839120
based Elmo-poster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Ee-WfutJQ

>>19839088
This is the same problem I'm caught up with. I honestly don't know how to proceed but it's been a few years and I haven't gone back yet. If you are an ethical person you are basically nonfunctional in modern society. I think ethics are the great divide right now, not class, but ethics. People who are not ethical are waging war on people who are, because only after all ethical thought is removed the next steps can be taken to create a completely technological society. But I don't know how to actually find something ethical to do. In the USA you can go off the grid and build a hut somewhere, in Europe not at all. And it's all probably going to change for the worse. Rural centers are impossible to live in, and in any case the internet is superseding everything and it's bringing its anti-ethics everywhere. I can't see myself escaping this shit for longer than say 10 years at the very best.

I'm 27 and just started taking community college classes for the first time a couple weeks ago. I'm in college freshman classes and I'm the oldest person there. I feel so awkward talking to the girls because they're so young. I think the oldest girl out of any of my 3 classes is 22. Everyone else is under 21

>>19838894
>Is it possible to get a good job if you've been a NEET for multiple years?
Depends on your definition of good and your personal circumstances. You do have a masters though.
>Is it still possible to get a gf whilst being a virgin in your late 20s?
That depends on a lot more than being a virgin.But yeah sure easily.

>Is it possible to live a fulfilling life after having wasted so much of your youth on the internet and video games?
Depends on your definition of a fufilling life

>>19832749
disingenuous post (I'm not saying you don't do the things you said)

>>19831972
kill yourself

I'm 25 and I'm gonna turn 26 in few months. I fell for the coding meme and I can't get a job.

>>19831137

"School of Hard Knocks/School of Life" etc is one of those phrases that's an instant giveaway for an IQ in the 90s.

I'm considering spending the rest of my twenties on getting a phd in philosophy
Please talk me out of it

>>19839775
you cant even tell anyone you have a phd in philosophy

>>19839259
>not class, but ethics
Even worse, class is weaponized against ethics. For 10+ years people have been sold the idea that STEM jobs are your way out of the lower classes, or that it's a great achievement to work in STEM if you're gay/black/female etc. I've seen job positions from defense companies bragging about how 'diverse' they are whilst failing to mention that they also sell weapons to Saudi Arabia. If you're from a certain background, then the road to success seems to require fucking over people just like you whilst being told that its a great achievement. There is no ethical employment in a fundamentally corrupt society.

>>19839775
https://100rsns.blogspot.com/

>>19830329
33 in April. My ability to handle whiskey has improved drastically while beer makes me a farty sour stomached grump if I drink too much. Fair trade

>>19837011
Filtered midwit

>>19839809
Admittedly money isn't really an issue for me so like half those reasons don't apply, still thanks for the link.
The country I was planning to get the degree in requires me to first get a masters degree anyway, guess I should maybe just get a masters and then fuck off and do something else instead of then going for the phd.

>>19839809
jobless stemfag here
should i just apply to defense companies
i don't care about selling weapons to saudi arabia, no matter what you do in life you're gonna be harming someone else anyway

>>19839835
If you have to do a masters anyway, then there's nothing to worry about since it will be a taster of what a PhD would be like. Just go into with a critical mindset. There's a couple of posts in that link talking about how academia can suck you in. Don't let some boomer professor trick you into thinking you can grow up to be just like him.

>>19839858
Might as well. They seem to pay well and if WW3 takes off, you'll have a comfy research job rather than getting drafted.

>>19839858
>no matter what you do in life you're gonna be harming someone else anyway
cope

>>19839921
Yeah I read the point about how even people without the intention to become professors get convinced it's totally possible.
I'm honestly curious if phd programs really are that hardcore though, I know in the us you're expected to actually teach and basically be someone's secretary for 5 to 6 years, but that doesn't seem to be normal anywhere else.

>>19839956
I know someone who is doing a PhD and I think the most he is expected to do is mark problems sets and maybe answer some questions, although this is in a STEM subject, in Europe and with full funding. I guess the main thing is to know what you're getting into before you commit. There's a lot of comments in the link saying that, if you can't get funding, the university doesn't really give a fuck about you.

>>19828377
CAME FROM THE GUTTER, JUST MISSED THE GRAVE
NOW LOOKING DOWN THE BARREL OF TODAY

>>19840065
My plan was to pay for the masters, while maybe seeing if I can get my tuition waived after a semester, and then try for an actual scholarship for the phd.
Privately funded phds being kinda looked down upon is also something I read quite often so there probably wouldn't be much of a point.

19 yr old, high school dropout, NEET, heterovrigin, manlet.
Not going to make any efforts to improve my unfixable life situation, barring that probable suicide down the line. Not mad or OK with the ordeal. Just Is, simple as.

>>19840121
>Privately funded phds
This is probably related to the the point about no funding = the university doesn't really want you. I guess the perception of a privately funded PhD is that you got in via connections/money rather than ability.

As to whether there is a point, there comes a stage where nothing you read is going to help you answer that question. The PhD won't get you a job, it almost certainly won't contribute anything to society, it will isolate you from anyone outside academia, it won't make you an 'intellectual', and its possible you might regret spending what's left of your youth in an academic bubble. Whether any of this matters to you or not depends on your motivations for doing philosophy. Why do you want to dedicate time and effort to writing essays that will likely never be read by more than a double-digit number of people? I probably care more about philosophy than most people but even I think that 'pure' philosophy is dead. It's up to you whether you agree or not.

The one benefit of the PhD being useless is that it doesn't matter whether you do it now or in ten years time. Consider what you would do if the PhD was impossible and then spend a few years doing that. Make sure that you're not just pursuing the PhD to avoid getting a real job or because you think staying at university will somehow prolong your youth or anything like that.

>>19840240
Thanks for the very detailed answer.
I'm definitely gonna have to think more about what I want my future to actually look like and not just do a phd to prolong staying in uni.

>>19828367
>OHHHH NOES!! THIRTIES ARE LIKE, LE END!!!

Shut the fuck up

>>19840286
im free from my dumbass friends, feel like they had a chokehold on me thru my entier 20s

27yo here. I am such a coward that I didn't even have suicidal thought because I don't want to die before I can publish my works, fuck Miss Universe, consume the most delicious dishes and travel around the world yet too lazy to do so.
What I find out when my friends are switching to better jobs or getting promotion while I'm a NEET is that you start to hate yourself a lot. Next thing you know you stop talking to your college friends because you have no answer when they ask about your job.

>>19828367
get saved and read the King James Bible (without any commentaries or footnotes)

how to be saved and be 100% sure of going to heaven:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpOv_kvk4M8

sermon for people doubting their salvation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qe2iQE2ImQ&t=433s

>>19840657
it's too hard

>>19840657
None of those verses seem very important

>>19834225

Fuck off retard, 22 is the average age of college graduation

>>19830213
completely incorrect. I went to undergrad with an iraq vet in his early 30s and nobody in the class gave a shit. hell, ive been in classes in undergrad. with multiple old retired men auditing the course (im talking 70+) and they were still regularly included in the class discussions.

if you're going to school for the "college experience", that's another thing. keep in mind the college experience, as its sold (lots of sex, drugs, etc) is not a reality for 75 percent of men who attended, especially if youre in a rigorous program or work. if youre not already normie, it doesn't magically happen when youre in college.

the point of university is to get the degree, put yourself in a position to succeed thru connections etc, and go from there. ofc you can be like me and have neither a good time socially nor be successfully professionally, kek, but, hey so it goes.

>>19841896
college is still good for casual sex if youre good looking enough

i was in a rigorous program but got bothered by the girls in it

ive been to frat parties as well but those are an absolute mess. the girls there are more like zombies.

>>19839300
keep going bro, you're taking big steps, dont stop now.
>>19839685
how exactly did this happen
>>19839858
consider government work if you are minimum qualified. look at potentially commissioning OCS in the military if youre under 39 and have a tech degree

I am a 23 year old jobless (in my field) humanities grad. I've worked in food service since high school part time. I've shared this here before but I worked 25 hours a week from May to October 2021, mornings only, in a suburb area, in a busy restaurant, and I cleared about 20k working part time (probably more since I didn't count cash tips). I know for a fact I was regularly making 30 dollars an hour. Most of the bartenders I worked with would take home 400 in cash every day minimum.

It's a hard life but if you want to work with some of the most fun and interesting people you'll ever meet, consider food service. You'll met some serious fuckups, college losers, cute teen girls, grizzled old hags, hispanic immigrants everywhere, ex-military guys - everyone. You get to eat every shift, you get to shoot the shit (especially if you have a good manager), and, honestly, I've had more fun doing that than I ever had in college. Lots of laughs, drinking, sex and flirting (no meme), drugs, good food, all that. It can also be stressful as hell and infuriating but at least I'm not sitting and coding soullessly.

You can live a very comfy, low-key life in food service. There's even the possibility of transitioning to bartending, fine dining, management, etc. Just something for people to consider here. I'm looking for work in my field now but it's comforting to know I could move anywhere in the USA, work in a nice restaurant in the city, and have enough money to live no problem. It's not really a great long term choice but if you could swing a gig where you do that, live near a beach, have a girlfriend, etc. who knows?

If thirties are so bad, then the forties are what?

Remains of the Day by Ishiguro.

Those men of which are interested in the arts, although not gay or “wanting to be a woman” in a literal sense, may have the intuitive thought that they are feminine, and those men may become aware of this via the alarming discovery of their emotions and the immediately following thought that it is an emotional prison being neglected. Which a lot of men today otherwise seem to not have or simply not have the time to delve into that Pandoras Box at all.
Dangerous in fact because to be an ideal man is without "need", precisely women's affection. Which becomes a downward spiral of desperation that cannot be easily reached out of.
Women have built a society wherein they are a byword for "abundance" and for men "scarcity".
Do not be confused however, although poetry, the arts and "fun" is appreciated by women, it is merely the act of ingesting that they enjoy, and not the dialogue. In fact the most you will ever see of any woman's receptiveness is, "You may kiss me", in other words, "You may continue to feed me your love". They are simply incapable of giving. Giving perhaps, at occasion, students the literature of a few men who seem aware of this relationship, yet scarcely more.
A man who recognises his feminine urge to be "reciprocated" (you should realise how insane this sounds, and yet it is true)
is immediately met with the mirage in the desert head on.
You picture yourself with your to-be-wife,
she pictures herself enjoying herself being enjoyed, you are simply not even there.
If this is properly recognised, the impetus to work and many other such things would come crashing down, and so in a way, men are kept in the allegory of the cave, being told they are being received, far away from the truth, their gifts are merely taken, just as a gold necklace is given as a purchase and not a gift.
And so the feminine mind suddenly veers to the other, radical side of thought. That women are like global bankers, or dragons, hoarding up all of the pleasure-able virtues, for fear that a future coin will be stripped from their enjoyment, and the men are convinced that "emotions weren't worth much anyway" and told to watch Football, perhaps via other men who have unconsciously given up trying.
And so in many ways, a man’s work unconsciously becomes his Frankenstein’s mistress, which is constructed as a more-able woman of sorts, perversely made by him to receive the loss of appraisal he suspects, and yet still unable to replicate what the woman is able to afford but is not willing to do. And so then becomes the future of such men. Dressing up nice, going to bars, sitting, ordering a drink, saying hellos, saying goodbyes, perhaps this emotionally unveiled man meets a nice woman and the draining thoughts subside, until upon going home the man realises the absence of real laughter on his part, that he has become an entertainer for everyone but himself and that without his trained double act to distract him, he is left alone to resolve this emptiness himself.

I only care about humanities but I need to get a job bros
What do I dooooooooo

Does age really matter? The way I see it, it doesn’t matter if you’re 14 or 40. There’s really nothing important or meaningful to do anyway. Maybe I’m a nihilist or just extremely depressed but I can’t help but see things that way currently.

>>19829195
>tfw only so many fridays left in 20s
Too close

>>19830317
>Amazing coworkers and a pleasant work environment is worth way more than more money to me. The blue collar meme is real.
Definetly is. Job can suck or be soul crushing but the right people will make it not so bad.
Used to work at a warehouse on nightshift. People there were great
Still my favorite job was unloading trucks at a hardware store. People were great and the work was steady but rarely overbearing

>>19833587
Government writes blank checks thanks to taking over most student loans while also cutting funding to education (at the state level at least) which leads to rising tuition costs which leads to a degree costing as much as a house

>>19833546
That's awesome I'm happy for him

>>19841924
>consider government work if you are minimum qualified.
I have a bachelors in mechanical engineering but I'm looking for the easiest thing to get because i have low confidence and low skills and am afraid of applying and afraid of rejection
But I need a job before November, more like before June or so really

>>19828367
pic related is a nice whitepill

>>19842885
don't fear rejection, embrace it.

plenty of time for fear later

>>19833546
Now he only needs to work 40 years to pay off his debt

>>19828367

>>19837874
he might get his shit together

>>19829941
Thanks for that post anon. Have a nice day.

>>19829941
it's true, the next best time to start is now.
I wish and wish that I lived near friends and had enough money to supplement my wishes, but NEEThood this long... boy oh boy, next stop, train schizo, at least I got a nice wardrobe, this aint gonna be easy just grin and bear it, aww shucks etc the grindhouse is real but there's no way out doing nothing either

>>19834223
Though it's not perfect, 4chan allows greater levels of freedom in discussion than other platforms do. Just because I'm older and have a career doesn't mean I no longer enjoy having frank discussions with people. Finding people in the real world who have my level of interest in literature is difficult, even if you're at an organization that specializes in it (for lots of people it's just a job).

>>19834532
I never went to high school. I was talking about the experience of being young generally, not the experience of being sent to some public education gulag because your parents were too poor to send you anywhere else.

>>19828385
>get educated, it will increase your chances of finding a woman
future "educated" cat lady detected

>>19843438
I suppose he should have said that it will increase your chances of finding an "educated" woman.

Women do eat the education thing up though. They seem endlessly fascinated by the fact I went through a master's degree program, meanwhile other men don't really give much of a shit because why would they?

>>19829012
no book advice
but use some of those dollars to fuck prostie

>>19829929
>>19829941
based
4chan is a bucket of crabs its good to have some sane people tell crabby loosers that want others to give up to fuck off

>>19842345
get a job dumbass

>>19842334
https://www.tiktok.com/@patricetok/video/7058762081096551681?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&lang=en

>>19842785
believe it or not, it does matter.

>>19840113
STILL HERE
I CANT HESITATE
EYES WIDE OPEN, PUPILS DILATE

>>19842994
Sadly this but atleast he is somewhat more content with his life from what i could gather. It's still fucked up though

With all due integralness of sapience granted, at twentyfive years of age one proverbially dies, and regenerates; by twentyseven one finds oneself in the thick midst of life, on all levels; by thirty one virtually totally reconciles the cordiological with the chronological, the former realigning with the latter; the ending supercyclically reconnecting with the beginning; although I am not yet thirty years old, I can see this as clearly as one can foresee the weather.

>>19844866
silence

>>19844874

Yep —nothing but silence when you contemplate it.

>>19843649
>why would they?
You tell me, you're the one who got a master's degree

Action + CBT and possibly drugs, if there's something preventing you from taking action >>> books.

>>19828367
bump

>>19829929
What do I do if I have massive amounts of agoraphobia to the point I stand frozen in front the door doing breathing exercises for at least 1 hour before leaving the house?

>>19843276
>I was talking about the experience of being young generally, not the experience of being sent to some public education gulag
That is the experience of youth everyone wishes to live through again. The only people who miss their youth are people who think highschool and college socialization is the highest point of anyones life. I grew up around people that stopped going to school at the age of 10, spend their youth in and out of juvenile detention. None of them think life was better then, now that they have houses paid for with drug money.

>>19828367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6PcG1QQWLo

>>19828367
Look up Transformation Mastery Mentoring right now and do it. You don't need a book. You need to fix your life.

>>19847006
nice video

>>19828367
The Myth of Sisyphus

>>19839259
>In the USA you can go off the grid and build a hut somewhere, in Europe not at all
makes me seethe so much

>>19828367
THE KING JAMES VERSION OF THE BIBLE.

Listen, anon, there's a lot of shit advice in here. There's only one book you need to read: The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky. I promise you. You might be slogging a bit in the few dense chapters, but even those are a trip. I recommend this book to everybody who feels stuck and down. I'd even send you a copy if this site wasn't anon

>>19829929
How do I into Architecture? Sounds patrician

I thought this website was the smart and redpilled sector of society. How can you all be so sad and pathetic? Reddit sounds like they’ll live happier lives than you guys.

>>19828385
>Don't listen to the loser telling you to not get educated, it will increase your chances of finding a woman
lol

>>19833536
You’re a millennial.

T. 22 yo

>>19848794
The Plebsite has their head in the sand, if you call ignorance bliss maybe.
And don't tell me they are well-formed optimists because they are netflix watching news cycle cynics obsessed with cooming and politics.

>>19848644
Not the same anon. Architecture studies are great. 5 years masters degree in almost every country. Very unique educative process pushing always your creative boundaries and lots of hours of work with others. Also architecture it`s probably one the last practices which promote being good at many differents subjects while not being excellent at single one. Now as a job it is established that you work unpaid overtime (in my country and I guess in other places) and also as an employee almost always you are underpaid considering the bulk of the work you produce. If you own a firm yourself it is better but it is still very demanding of course. In general you have to love architecture first and foremost and live for the creativite aspect of it, which is something that can be worked upon and is very rewarding

>>19831820
This guy is at the top of his field, he’s the single most knowledgeable scholar on Husserl in North America.
He also plays Pharaoh (1999) in his free time.

>>19848862
The millenial cut-off is somewhere in the mid-late nineties. A 22 year old could have been born after the turn of the millenium. That's older-zoomer territory.

>>19848794
you would know

millenial cut off is 95'
people after that are all spiritually zoomers.

>>19848862
>>19848987
born in '99 so zoomie according to the logic of >>19848994 which i also believe. However, I think the generation thing is a bit outdated since the world became a lot faster since the advent of modern technology

>>19849065
Perhaps, but Zoomies are technologically retarded, so it will take some time for that to bear out.

>>19828367
Pic related.

Also Of Human Bondage.

>>19828367
Sup 28rs. I got till June and then it's one last year of my twenties. Let's make it count heh heh

>>19828367
Zarathustra of course

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