/lit/ - Literature

>>19830915
Melville got me to appreciate rhythm in prose and poetry way more than I had before. He’s almost got a second nature with rhythm so I’m scared I can’t pull it off. Also, his use of non-fiction and analytical musings peppered throughout fiction is really interesting and I hope to emulate it.

cringe, I know, but it's true. I read Thus spoke Zarathustra and decided I had to write. Horrible decision btw.

>>19830915
Martin's foreshadowing is insane. I don't think anyone else in the fantasy genre matches it.

>>19832384
examples of his foreshadowings?

>>19830915
someone called dibs on Nietzsche, so I'd say Spengler

>>19832624
shit wrong pic

>>19830915
As a kid - Brian Jacques, KA Applegate and Gary Paulsen

Brian Jacques originally wrote his books for blind kids, which is why they have the gorgeous, long and intricate descriptions of everything, down to the food at feasts. It was a treat

Gary Paulsen got me into wilderness survival and just appreciation for nature and the outdoors in general. The fact that his life as a kid was so fucked up and that he used nature to cope is even more inspiring

KA Applegate (two authors) inspired me a lot in the science fiction realm - and that even though you are writing books for 'children' you don't need to talk down to them about adult topics and things that may 'go over their heads'.

Still haven't written anything substantial but I think about it daily when i'm not studying

>>19832600
Well this one maybe controversial but in book 2 when shireen is introduced she says she dreamed of dragons coming to eat her. And we know shireen is going to be sacrificed though it hasn't happened. This heavily hints her being sacrificed to resurrect jon who is a targaryen.

>>19832690
Notice how in the show they don’t kill anyone to resurrect Jon, when it’s been stated over and over again up until that point that magic requires sacrifice. Beric and Stoneheart have their humanity sacrificed at least, but in the show Jon loses nothing, he doesn’t even become a cold zombie since he still has bitches lusting after his dick. I doubt Martin would go that route, and the sacrifice m of Shireen makes sense In order to preserve Jon’s humanity for narrative reasons.

>>19832733
Shireen is really the only candidate. Because that's not the only foreshadowing. In the books Melissandre sees visions of waking dragons from stone. Shireen has that stone disease and again Jon is a Targaryen. I don't see Jon coming back any other way if martin ever puts out the book.

>>19832384
>>19832690
what is so brilliant about this? Sounds like bog standard foreshadowing

>>19832833
Okay show me examples of foreshadowing like this in other fantasy. I would love to read it. And reminder quantity matters too. This isn't the only example in asoiaf. It's easy to one have one piece of foreshadowing for one main plotline.

>>19832909
>Okay show me examples of foreshadowing like this in other fantasy.
of a character having a prophetic dream? are you joking?

>>19832946
No there are dozens cases of that in asoiaf alone and in other fantasy too of course. No I chose gave it as an example because of it's subtlety. You would get it if you actually had read the books.

>>19830915
>lines that seem to be of little consequence (...) actually hugely significant
Such as?

Arthur Conan Doyle
Robert Louis Stevenson
Alexandre Dumas

>>19830915
Nabokov and Gene Wolfe taught me that I’m a complete pseud and nothin I create will ever measure against them and their tomes.

>>19831078
I've only read moby dick and I can definitely see why so many people consider it one of the greatest works ever made. Is his other stuff as good?

Anton Chekhov because he was not a writer but near the end of his life wrote great works.

Gore Vidal because I want to write essays so that my bitching about how horrid things are right now can be memorialized

>>19832600
>Robert Strong was foreshadowed in a Bran's dream since book 1
>Young Griff double foreshadow(Mummer's Dragon and the tale of the rusty dragon insigna)
>Multiple sublte hints about Cersei doing something scary with wildfire ("her eyes were like wildfire")
>Red Wedding foreshadow (Dany vision of a wolfhead king in a room of blood)

>>19832600
Look at danys visions. I mean even those are themselves forshadowed by targaryen with the same name having them at the time of fall of valyria