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Was he right?

>> No.19815800

>>19815798
Yes.

>> No.19815804

>>19815798
Yes, but notice that he doesn't say that Nietzsche was not based.

>> No.19815806

>>19815798
No. Tolstoy was stupid.

>> No.19815812

..pot calling the kettle black!..

>> No.19816027

Nietsche would have taken abnormal as a compliment, seeing as a lot of his philosophy lambasted the views and actions of the normal. Ad for tne stupid part, Tolstoy was rich and got laid a lot and nieyszche struggled, making their views of the world different. Nieyszche was mad (as in angry and/or crazy) Tolstoy was content.

Maybe simply Tolstoy thought nieysxhe was stupid for not understanding that although not perfect and fully true, their religious and society and customs worked t make the best world fir the most people.

Of course if you are a loser in that system you will feel compelled to rally against it

>> No.19816713

>>19816027
?

>> No.19816722

>>19816027
>Tolstoy was content.
He doesn't sound very content to me.

>> No.19816723

>>19815798
On this point, yes.

>> No.19816735

>>19815798
I had never seen that photo of Tolstoy.

>> No.19816739

>>19816722
There's top of the world discontent where you realize all pursuit of pleasure or fame or power or really anything in life is empty and hollow and that nothing will ever satisfy versus bottom of the pecking order rage and frustration discontent

>> No.19816740

>>19815798
100%

>> No.19816799

>>19816739
Fair point but if anything, it makes Tolstoy's discontent more authoritative than Nietzsche's, not just different.

>> No.19816862

>>19816739
>realize all pursuit of pleasure or fame or power or really anything in life is empty and hollow and that nothing will ever satisfy
Simply not true. The destroying of this idea is contained in the ancient idea of temperance and moderation. Every single day is a little slice of eternity, full of many heavens. Every night one gets to go to sleep, wake up fresh to experience unimaginable joys and delights all over again. If a person is intelligent enough, modicumly, all the things you mention merely make this easier

>> No.19816882

>>19816722
He was content enough to call nieyszche stupid for trying to buck the system.

That's the only thing he could have called him stupid for because he clearly had intelligence capacity. He must think he's stupid for not just trying to perform his roll, which looks to be what, a metal worker, brewer, a pharmacist

>> No.19816932

>>19816722
Then again you may be right, but most importantly we must consider this may not even be an accurate quote, but just one made by an anon for fun.

Tolstoy's books bare full of conflicts and dramas of society, and maybe Nieyszche swift and undecorated slicing through all pretense and bs nullifies the society Tolstoy so painstskingly attempted to depict, or even further, nullified the worth of a novel.

Imagine if Nieyszche as a character showed up at a high class ball in Anna Karina equipped with his notebooks and diary, ready to discuss and debate

>> No.19817011

>>19815798
Why cant this guy write reasonably long books.

>> No.19817505

>>19817011
Cold Russian winters, what else is there to do?

>> No.19817607

Tolstoy was a hypocrite rapist, a bad thinker, and not even a real Christian

>> No.19818044

>>19815798
Ha!

>> No.19818154

>>19817607
>and not even a real Christian
So you mean he was based?