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This guy is a philosophically illiterate cretin

>>19805929
midwitism

>>19805929
>without suffering how would we learn how to cope with suffering
Based and beautiful and moral
>But why not just create a perfect world without suffering
unfeasible, not possible, only an infantile mind would have such an idea

>>19805938
this wtf

>>19805929
Doesn't the Matrix also postulates we would reject a painless world full of pleasure

>>19805929
Because he's commie scum.

>>19805938
>only an infantile mind
Only an Anglo mind*

The utilitarian principle of pleasure-maximization is responsible for climate change, the industrial revolution, the pollution of the world's oceans, the irradiation of the globe by nuclear reactor accidents, the extinction of countless species, and so on. Utilitarianism/utopianism which does not extend its view beyond the present will inevitably crumble into the most opposite dystopia. The world is not going to be a nice place to live in a few hundred years, to say the utmost least.

>>19805938
>>But why not just create a perfect world without suffering
>unfeasible, not possible, only an infantile mind would have such an idea
It is very feasible if you have an omnipotent deity

>>19805929
dostoyevsky being very based here. a man is not and organ stop and two plus two is four without me.

>I AM SILLY

>based!
>that's based!

>>19805938
How can one cartoonist be right and wrong at the same time?

>>19805929
These comics are great.

>>19805929
Bentham was likely autistic, why would you take advice on ethics from a person like that.

unrefutable

>>19805938
>Based and beautiful and moral
>>>/pol/

>>19806324
Nietzsche was an anti-semite too, both Richard and Cosima Wagner had to tell him multiple times to tone down his public antisemitic remarks (so that he wouldnt lose his career)
God I hate Existential Comics so much, that fucking pseud. I want to bully him

>>19805929
Existential Comics are hilarious. How come they don't get posted here more often?

>>19805929
Retarded comic, it is impossible to create perfect world without suffering even if you pull infinite power to shape material world out of your ass.
As long as there humans, there will be zero sum game for power, domination and status, and as long as there zero sum game there will obviously be those on its negative end, who will obviously suffer.
The only way to end suffering is therefore by ending human. Perhaps those communist regimes known for both dream of creating utopia and 7 digit body count were onto something.

>>19805929
>>19806324
These are too good. Where can I read more?

>>19806492
>How come they don't get posted here more often?
Because most people here aren't well enough to get most of them. This is /pol2.0/ nowadays.

>>19805929
im certain this guy is 400iq and just baiting lit with his compics for fun

>>19805929
It could be worse. This guy unironically says Dostoyevsky is all about embracing secular life because christianity is too hard to follow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmSdxZpseY

>>19806515
Haven't watched that video, but what's wrong with that take? If you disagree you obviously haven't read The Great Inquisitor, because that's pretty much the message of it.

>>19806515
You get that just because Dostoyevsky wrote many christian characters doesn't mean he necessarily supported those views, right? He also wrote many atheist characters, but that doesn't make him atheist either. He's in between and always debating those too extremes, but as this guy said >>19806527, if you had read The Great Inquisitor you would get that the point Dostoyevsky is trying to make is that it's impossible to live like Jesus and we must find a moral that actually fits us. At first the inquisitor is presented as a villain, but ultimately he's a hero.

>>19805929
>How can someone misinterpret Dostoevsky this badly?
If you ever checked his reddit/twitter presence you'd realize he mostly just reads the Wikipedia for the authors and philosophers he depicts. He is exactly a dumb person's idea of a smart person.

>>19805929
I don't know? Maybe because it's satire?

>>19806324
this is the most blatant propaganda I've ever seen

>>19806508
God I wish I knew if you were being ironic.

>>19806492
Because most people here are 30 year old boomers and grew out of their libertarian or socialist dipshit phase after high school.

Who sides with Bentham lol

>>19805929
Reminder that Bentham woke up at like three in the afternoon and started running on the queen whatever park with his delicate fat swinging on either side while plotting his utilitarian utopia in Athens

the author is an idiot who thinks too highly of their intellect, their followers are the same
weird they're not on lit, they're a perfect match for our average poster

>>19806324
>yeesh, cool it with the antisemitism will ya?

>>19805929
A gentle reminder that this is the author of those comics.

>because I would reject it

>>19806154
Which you don't, by the way.

>>19806588
>If you ever checked his reddit/twitter presence you'd realize he mostly just reads the Wikipedia for the authors and philosophers he depicts. He is exactly a dumb person's idea of a smart person.
That explains his awful summaries of Wittgenstein

>>19806527
Crime and Punishment is entirely pro-religion though. Just because it’s importable to be Christ doesn’t mean trying is futile. Dosto was unapologetically religious

>>19806488
Where did you get that from
(I honestly want to know, as I need ammunition against the jewish subversion of Nietzsche by Kaufmann)

8^U

>>19806553
Dostoevsky was a living human being. There's letters, accounts of his contemporaries to go off of.

The way to create an earthly paradise with no suffering is inherently antinatal.

>>19805929
In a perfect world I would be a communist, but seeing how retarded every leftist is has black pilled me on the whole movement. Recently I've reached the point where I find myself preferring libertarianism because at least I won't have an authoritarian retard breathing down my neck.

>>19806324
There are hardly ones that are actually funny

>>19808211
fuck I didn't save part 2

>>19805929
Maybe Dostoevsky’s philosophy was based around the realization that the world would never be perfect? He was religious so he believed God had the power to make our lives perfect but didn’t, so he accepted that the imperfect world was what God wanted us to have and He created suffering just like everything else to be understood and appreciated as a key element of the human experience. “Make a perfect world” is literally the philosophy of a 5 year old who just realized that the world isn’t perfect.

>>19806324
>Wagner? Y-You're the American Psycho?
That's when I stopped watching

>>19808211
LMAO. This is too good and SO Camus.

>>19806515
I'm not a school of life fan, but that video in particular is fine.

>>19805929
i agree with dosto in this comic

>>19805929

Are some people really cut from a different cloth? Why do I find bugmannery so disgusting and contemptible? Or hedonism in general? Is it because I'm circumcized and can't cum as bigly, otherwise I would be all about cumming big and that alone would satisfy my ambitions and need for significance?

>>19805929
Misinterpreted or not, this is actually pretty funny.

>>19806324
Based Wagner

>>19808211
>>19808224
I’ll save you faggot

>>19805929
>>19806324
>>19808211
>>19810890

>>19805929
I can't imagine how soulless someone would have to be to agree with Bentham.

>>19810890
kek

>>19810963
>das too many woords fer a days readin’

>>19811086
>das too many woords fer a days readin’
Yes.

>>19811086
Leftist humor is only decent when it's absurdist desu, otherwise its trying to hard to be didactic thus more often than not preachy where in meme format just falls flat

>>19811228
But the problem with that is they don't actually have a central base, they can only criticise the right which is then dialectically integrated into the right anyway.

>>19810890
Gotta love sassy Simone. My type of gal.

>>19811228
Humor is inherently leftist, because comedy is all about disturbing the status quo and pushing forward.

>>19811274
Maybe, but as we are seeing even now the status quo in many ways is going in their favor (Especially in social aspects) and it's seems to be hindering their comedic output. Guess Comedy won't exist in the leftist world since the status quo is so perfect what is there to disturb or push forward against?

>>19806495
https://existentialcomics.com/

>>19807900
Sorry friend, Nietzsche is so explicitly not anti-semitic that no reasonable interpretation of him would arrive at the opposite conclusion. He criticizes anti-semites, explicitly for that reason, and praises the Jews for their success. He also says that the Old Testament is morally superior to the New Testament.

>>19811274
Didn't you read bergson? Comedy is literally the exact opposite. Comedy is when you laugh at stupid people for breaking the status quo. Laughter is a rightwing emotion

>>19806324
>Judaism is the evil conscience of our modern civilization

wtf i love wanger now

>>19811343
probably the only laughing matter the perfect communist utopia is going to be the past

to punch up at the oppressive class of the past

maybe laugh and the absurd unfairness and miserable conditions it subjected the proletariat

or when people claim it was real communism when it was not if it fails

>>19811785
Sounds lame

>>19811086
LONDON
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>>19806023
Believe it or not, the Matrix franchise borrowed some ideas from earlier, and better explained, works
Please stop referencing movies

>>19812209
Hey now I know that! I may be into movies but that doesn't mean I don't like reading

>>19805929
Do you have to read his books in order? I just bought the Brothers and Crime and Punishment. Should I read a different one before?

>>19811228
There’s humor and then there’s infographs.
The “sick burn” poltards came to wasn’t even true. They had to make them up.

>>19811147
HAAAAA HAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>19807900
Check the first or second chapter of Losurdo's book on Nietzsche. iirc the Wagners told him to tone that shit down for the short essay "On the Greek State" (where N wanted to claim explixitly that he regardes Socrates as the first Western Jew), and another time for his lectures at Basilea, where, after like 5 pages of screeds against certain contemporaries if his, he wanted to end the lecture by saying that all aling he was talking about jews.
>>19811419
You missed his point. He criticized GERMAN anti-semites, because he had a even lower opinion of German people. In pretty much all of his texts, jews are seen as parasites and as bringers of decadence. Also the New Testament is, according to Nietzsche, a Jewish text, and everything that is decadent in it he attributes to Judaism.

Again, Domenico Losurdo did a lot of good with his book on Nietzsche. After WW2 Nietzsche was a persona non grata due to the fact that he was strongly associated to Nazi ideology. In order to save him a number of academics (to name a few: Colli, Montinari, Vattimo, Kauffman, Deleuze) basically sanitized him, hiding from plain sights all the most controversial elements of his philosophy. This includes not only his antisemitism, but also his stances om the legitimacy of slavery and violent eugenetics, and his apologia for aristocracy.

>>19805929
honestly these people are dangerous. it's not watered down for a retarded social media audience, it's completely removed.

>>19811086
brevity = sovl of wit dontcha know.
veriferry not requiræ, thee lord be on mine side

i like this one

>>19812490
Straight up hard right now thinking about how shredded Sisyphus is getting pushing that boulder for all eternity (no homo)

>>19812214
They all take place in the same universe, but there's not necessary to read them in order. Just read whatever you want.

>>19812550
DLU—Dostoevsky Literary Universe

>>19806062
Underrated post. This is all true. The Silly Utilly is a monstrous creature that things life and all actions can be reduced to an equation.

>>19811266
A peado?

>>19810890
Who was in the wrong?

>>19806553
How could you possibly read Karamazov and think this is the meaning of it?

>>19806046
Same thing.

>>19811228
>>19811568
Both of you are retarded directionbrains.

When they don't believe in God they can't understand Dostoevsky.
So they have to this.

>>19810890
Th..th..anks anon

>>19806621
Ask yourself: how did this comic get posted here? Contemplate for at least 30 s (length of one tik tok)

>>19810963
he says on the literature board

>>19805938
If suffering is inevitable regardless, why must we synthesise it?

>>19812949
Camus, obviously. He cannot respond to Sarte’s argument, so he throws a temper tantrum.