/lit/ - Literature

Im not a charismatic person. Thats sad.

>>19756862
How is this lit?

What's some easy poetry to start with for a brain let?

>>19756862
Should I get drunk before my date? I've never had a date before and I'm scared I'm going to be an autistic fuck and ruin everything. I was thinking to drink 2 bottles of beer before I meet her.

>>19756992
Just have a date in a bar

>>19756992
i do this

>>19756992
No, people can tell if you're drunk both from behavior and smell.

You'll be ok. Remember she isn't there as a representative of all women to judge you for all time in your deepest essence as a man. You are a work in progress, and even if you fuck something up, it's all part of the process and you will look back on it fondly some day as a growing pain. She is just an average woman. I'm not going to be a normie and tell you she's your perfect equal and to "just treat her like a person," obviously there's an implicit judgement dynamic on a date. But think of it more like a job interview than like some ultimate do-or-die test of your worth as a person.

If you fuck up a job interview you just walk away and maybe even laugh about it later. Yes some job interviews would suck to mess up, like a job you really want, or one you were lucky to get a shot at, but people fuck up. It's part of life. I had a million horrible dates and I both laugh and cringe when I look back at how awkward I was. It's not just the things I did wrong either, to me it's even funnier to realize all the things I did RIGHT but didn't understand I was doing right, so I wasn't even good at maximizing the parts of me that girls did like.

You have more latitude than you think to make mistakes and be quirky, but conversely you could also do everything right and still get on her bad side. The only thing you can do is to show up, not have extremely high expectations but simultaneously try your best, and just go with it. Expect a little bit that it's not going to lead to a second date, but don't be a doomer about this either.

One day you'll be old and you won't be able to understand why women had such power over you. Even as I give this advice my mind is saying "just don't care bro, it's literally a woman lmao" but I know that you can't process that thought, just like I can't process why you care, because I've forgotten what it's like to think a WOMAN can judge me on a DATE. That's like babysitting my sister's kid and giving a shit when he says I'm not very good at roblox.

>>19757040
Your words of advice are likely very wise for the average man but you don't know just how socially anxious and autistic I am in real life. If I told you you probably wouldn't even believe me. So I feel like this is a special case. Can't I just chew gum to get rid of the scent?

>>19757067
forget what that dude is saying. hes not understanding that you arent "normal", which is ok.
just take. 1 or 2 shots of vodka. vodka leaves no smell which is why its the alcoholics choice.
you don't want to be buzzed you just want to be right before being buzzed.
cheers and good luck buddy

>>19757067
Did you get the date over Tinder or does she know you in real life enough to be somewhat familiar with your autism?

I do know how you feel, I was that bad at one point and it took a lot of lopsided exposure therapy that could have been done a lot more efficiently (and in some cases less dangerously) in hindsight. I still think booze is a bad idea unless you're some special case day-drinker who knows exactly how to manage his buzz to stay in his sweet spot. Even then, if she smells it you look like a creep instantly. I have done the alcohol for taking the edge off thing myself, and it never really worked for me. Maybe it'll work better for you but to me, there's the chance of her noticing and it making the whole encounter much weirder, thus depriving you of the exposure you would have gained.

>>19757085
I was the same as him once. Vodka not leaving a smell is something people have debated for centuries, it's an old joke, hard to say which side is ultimately right.

The problem isn't even the smell, it's that a socially awkward guy isn't going to know the sweet spot with it and he risks having an extremely awkward encounter instead.

To sing for God

Upon thee I have smiled,
Who from I am become as twilt of string,
Thee who has knit my innermost being,
And there, thou established thyself undefiled,
Immutable, and everlasting king.

Unguent of extacy,
With bitter lament I had spent my days,
Until my tongue had sung its trills in lays,
i sought a psalm embalm’d as with consummate glee,
I sought to sing thee an eternal praise.

I stammer and I shift,
Again and again I am enamored,
Through stuttering of speech, awful grammar’d,
To you alone my feeble words must drift,
I am beset by thy perfect glamour.

>>19757109
>Did you get the date over Tinder or does she know you in real life enough to be somewhat familiar with your autism?
I met her online on some pen pal website. We happened to go to the same university so I asked her out. She said she's shy and introverted too, but I don't know if women can be with all the support they get. The point is I don't even know how to hold a conversation with a man, I don't have friends at all and haven't for 15 years, so I am really scared.

Thanks for your advice though it's starting to make me reconsider it but idk...

>>19757109
dude a shot or two of vodka isn't going to make him smell like a distillery. especially if he wears deodorant and cologne.
you arent wrong about the giant risk of him fucking up the sweetspot and showing up drunk but id like to think anon knows his limits.

does anybody recommend the profession of a goldsmith or an ebeniste for someone who dropped out from university? ideally i'd try to become some sort of watchmaker, but i can't afford the education right now. it seems like an honorable and relatively fulfilling manual artistic job, with enough time to devote myself to /lit/erary activites on the side, but i don't know if i'll be able to get by with the low pay.
any other handicraft anons to chime in and share their experiences? i have nowhere else to go.

Get fucked bobert

in one of my dreams last night there was like 500$ cash on my nightstand. unfortunately this was not a reality.

>>19756967
Mother Goose

>>19757164
Never underestimate women's ability to be neurotic, retarded, and weird themselves. You're right, they receive so much affirmation and support in life that they can't have the same anxiety as men, but this actually goes so far in the opposite direction that they have different forms of insanity. They're all insecure as fuck, even the hot ones, and they have surprisingly little "connection" to how men think and feel about them. Because they're insulated from most simps and coomers, they usually have beliefs that will surprise you. Really hot girls will tell you that they "assumed men get just as many dates" and shit like that.

This is jarring at first but it also makes you realize you're at least of a disadvantage with them than you think. They AREN'T the superpredators you assume they must be, since men are so desperate, and you instinctively assume they must be aware of this.

I'm telling you, women don't even understand the simp phenomenon, they don't really have a "total picture" of gender dynamics the way highly online men do. Because they can afford to go with the flow socially, since the flow is usually good for them, they go with the flow, and have very unsystematic mental models of dating relations and social power differentials. Their "valid by default" lifestyle is both their greatest blessing and their greatest curse, it gives them a very cushy life on average, but it also detaches them from any ability to think reflectively about the whys and hows of it all.

So they have a lot of naive ideas that would surprise you, and they are just as capable of having confidence issues and neuroses about being rejected. Even when they seem like they're being all "lol who does this beta incel think he is", it's not as deep as it looks, it's not like they have access to the same incel theory you do and are simply inverting it. They're just saying that shit because they saw other girls say it. Women don't NEED incel theory so they don't really have it, even when they use its concepts and words.

Every woman is a bundle of neuroses and weaknesses, you can find 10/10s who are dating some 5/10 loser and desperate for his validation just like you can find 5/10 fat unemployed bitches who constantly tell everyone how high their standards are.

Sorry for saying so much here but I'm trying to convey a single idea, which you can only fully get from experience, by getting at it from different angles so you can at least form a picture of it. DON'T be overly defensive because you assume she's already judged you. I am trying very hard not to say "just bee yourself" but there is a kernel of truth in it. Don't jump the gun, don't try to preempt bad outcomes so hard that you create them where there are none. On the other hand, have self-respect (you are valid king).

>>19757203
I suppose you're right, there's no exact answer here. I was just worried he'd think the vodka is a 100% foolproof option and wouldn't at least be aware of the risk.

Song of the day, 16/01/22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r-H2_eg-3E

I said something about her sounding like a robot. She just said "talk"
I've said everything in those ignored messages so many times I didn't have much left to say.
She broke the silence and gave me a quick update.
The business was booming, she moved out of her parents place with some irl friends,
and most important of all she was happy. And I was glad for her, I really was.
Then I finally asked why she made me jump through all those hoops to get her to talk to me.
"I'm selfish"
"what? I didn't hear you"

I still can't tell if that was true. I swear I didn't hear right at first, and when I put it together I didn't want to presume and ask "you're selfish?".
But I fear there's a part of me lurking right at the edge of subconscious that wanted to gloat and have her say it again. I've thought to myself many times that all I'm doing
is searching for closure, for both our sakes. That it will help keep the memories pure. That in a year's time I'll see something that reminds me of her and smile and she'll do the same because at one point we were
papi and kitty. But what if i wanted to hurt her through kindness? Show I'm such a bigger man that I'm willing to let her go, wish her the best knowing that every time a message was seen she had SEEN it.
And she was reminded how she treated me, how she is treating me. Did I want her to cry for me? It would be tangible proof I meant something to her and wasn't just a used up rag tossed aside.
I know no one is as pure as snow, but I hope my soul isn't too tainted by yellow.

"I'm selfish"
I can't remember my response
"I don't want to do online any more, I want to be with people i can see, hug, kiss"
"I mean look... I knew this isn't a forever thing, but I have a hard time with letting people go"
"are you crying? nooo- there's one manly tear running down my cheek"
"you deserve everything good"
She kept reassuring and comforting me, but I was barely keeping up the illusion of hiding the tears from my voice.
"Look... I think we've said everything that needs to be said"
I ended it with see you and she said bye.

I haven't cried like that in 10 years. Not on the day my grand-grandmother died.
Not when the mom of a childhood friend, who introduced me to the gym and helped turn me from a fat blob to a chubby one, succumbed to breast cancer we thought she'd beaten.

But we got to say our goodbyes, and at one point we meant a lot to each other. The memories that were tainted by my rejection and her guilt are now bittersweet.
The tasting notes will only get more complex as time mellows the harsher notes of my days with Mia, but i have zero doubts in my mind that when we look back it'll be a good vintage.

Smoking cigarettes and spinning my Elton John and Pink Floyd records on the turntable. Ordered a coffee and breakfast combo from Ihop on Doordash. Reading Dostoyevsky

manhood is discipline

>>19757950
>getting ihop on doordash
Vile. Not something to brag about.

Tomorrow, I'm going on a date with my crush. She's pretty open about having fucked a bunch of guys and not building strong relationships, which is kinda bad and makes me not want to date her. But I can't help being super into her.
And I'm absolutely outworldly nervous.

>>19757999
the one thing i never learned was to be disciplined. is it too late?

>>19758376
Manhood is discipline, discipline your manhood. Put your cock in the cage bitch.

>>19758376
No

>>19758253
relax buddy. and dont be so judgemental

>>19758396
I don't judge her, I just have different preferences on the type of relationships I wish to build.
Can't command emotions though (applies to having a crush on someone and also trying to relax when nervous).

>>19756862
I feel disgust

>>19758416
>Can't command emotions though
You absolutely can

>>19758446
Meditation?

>>19758432
Ys you are disgusting

>>19757263
good read
t. autist

>>19757217
>silver league
>3k+
Slow down on the autism

>>19757999
I think the thing is that in order to have any discipline there has to be something to do. I don't think I developed discipline in school because nothing we were doing seemed meaningful in any way, so why respect it? I did very well, for some reason I thought going through uni would mean something, but the material itself.. why would I apply myself? Why would I respect it?
>out of self-respect
maybe but I was content

I feel like a lot of the arguments people gave me for nihilism before weren’t as logically as I initially assumed. Now I feel forced to make a meaningful life despite knowing it might all be for nothing. I also became a bit less convinced in pessimistic ideas when it turned out that the whole “depressive realism” thing turned out to be unproven.

>>19758695
Adding to that, I feel like I have a bias towards finding “bad” things more realistic even if doing so is illogical. I think as a kid I watched all of these shows like house that convinced me of that bullshit.

>>19758695
just dont live inside too many -isms bubbles

>>19758736
Yea but it’s hard. I don’t like living in an uncertainty that forced me to try because there may be meaning but still opens the door to it all bring for nothing.

It clicked and I feel the cycle has completed. Lately, I've been tingling with this knowledge that some sort of shift has happened. Something somewhere has changed. Either in my soul or some other place out there, something's just rebooted and installed an update. Get ready fellers (and the four women (female) who post here).

What I would give for the mods to moderate /sffg/

The more I read the more impossibly long the list of books I want to read becomes.

>>19758695
Nihilism is defeated by action. No argument is complete or perfect. No truth subsists entirely in propositions. To live is to refute pessimism. To argue in favour of the moonless night is to misunderstand the limits both of thought and of action.

How is /pol/ so based? They're always creative and funny unlike any other board. I'm apolitical, but I can't help laughing at the shit they post and with what energy they flood that board.

>>19758844
Rate of growth is proportional to size... Be careful or you might end up reading more books than can possibly exist if you let this behaviour tend towards its limit. It is possible this function may devour the known universe as all matter and being are transmuted into words to feed your unending lexico-gluttony. Have you thought about philately instead?

if i could have a single wish to be fulfilled i'd ask for the power to materialize any e-book into a hardcover physical behemoth in front of me

>>19758880
I would also like this power so I could make gigantic one volume editions of Pepys and similar tomes

Homosexuals won't cum for this beauty

Fucking love Rupi

>>19758829
>Mods
>Doing anything for /lit/.

RUPI RUPI RUPI

>>19758905
mods encourage us to read by making /lit/ impossible to tolerate for more than an hour at a time.

>>19758901
holy el goblino la creatura

>>19758916
Say what you want but >>19758896 triggers my femdom fetish really bad.

Nobody cares about ufos. They are so boring.

>>19757263
so basically what you are saying is that everyone is different and you cant judge a book by its cover?

I can't enjoy escapist media anymore because it makes me too depressed that my life isn't like that. When you are young and full of potential, you can trick yourself into thinking "maybe one day that'll be me" but once you hit a certain point you come to realise that you are fated to same boring life that 99% of other people on the planet endure and all that escapism just becomes depressing.

>>19758645
I can relate to this. I did very well in high school and uni as well, but not in anything useful. People look at my marks and think I am 'intelligent' but it is all for nothing because I can't use any of it.

>>19758896
>>19758901
>>19758911
brown cher

>>19759153
brown mon cheri hon hon hon oui oui j'ai acquis curry fever

the wind whispers through her hair
her shadows wanders down the path
escaping a love that can not last
as she leaves, all i do is stare

>>19759241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqcrK-3207g

Do you think that it is worth expending your energy to improve to world in even a tiny, miniscule way or do you think it is better to just give in and go with the flow? Sometimes when I read history books I get the sense that the flow of history is unstoppable and always tragic anyway so what use is there trying to put up a fight? Obviously on some level real human beings have an impact on what happens but what is the likelihood of it being you? But then you've got to be in it to win it... I don't feel motivated to do anything, in truth.

Where we're (you) when the xi jinping of weed smoking reached 60 days of weed sobriety?

Yep that's right. 2 months. I've officially doubled my record. Now according to the original plan I will smoke weed in 30 days but I am unsure if I should do this. I'm at a crossroad. On one hand I would really like to smoke weed again because it has been a long time and I really miss it but on the other hand I know if I smoke weed there's a risk that ill just start smoking a lot again. I really don't know what to do but I'm not too worried. I don't have any serious cravings anymore. I guess I'm just exited for when I finally do smoke again. Either way, this indefinite break has been a good decision.

I would also like to take this time to congratulate the anon who quit edibles for reaching 40 days of weed sobriety. Were gonna make it bro.
https://youtu.be/hkDwv-EpOQA

Where were (you) when the xi jinping of weed smoking reached 60 days of weed sobriety?

Yep that's right. 2 months. I've officially doubled my record. According to the original plan I will smoke weed in 30 days but I am unsure if I should do this. I am at a crossroad. On one hand I would really like to smoke weed because its been a long time and I miss it but on the other hand I know that if I smoke there's a chance that I'll fall into my old habits and begin abusing it again. I'm not sure what I'll end up doing but I'm not too worried. I don't have any serious cravings anymore, I guess I'm just excited for when I finally smoke again, Its going to be crazy. Either way this indefinite break was a good decision.

I would also like to take this time to congratulate the anon who quit edibles for reaching 40 days of weed sobriety. We're gonna make it bro.

https://youtu.be/hkDwv-EpOQA

I took a bunch of anthropology courses for gen-ed reqs in community college, so it would be an easy minor. But holy fuck, I just had to switch.
When I was in community college, it was great. Got to learn about linguistics, archeology, look at bones and some population genetics. Culture was an interesting study to augment my interest in Oswald Spengler. Most of the students were normal and well-adjusted. And the professors weren't too weird. Even if they seemed so at first and of course had their dumb ideological horseshit at the side (which was mostly incidental), they were ultimately level-headed and were open to other ideas, not needing to filter every idea through ideological lenses.
But when I transferred to a proper university, it was every negative stereotype that I heard before but thought was overplayed. Shrieking feminists. Freakish deviants confused about their own sex. Perpetually whiny ideologues. Short-haired bull-dykes unironically using the term "cis-het." Maybe that's just academia in 2022, but if I need to spend another semester with these demonic fiends, I will put a bullet right in my skull.
So political science it is. Am I making a mistake? Is polsci good for a minor? I'm getting a humanities degree and want to work for the government.

>>19756930
I wish I were still this new.

>>19759491
>signed up for POLITICAL SCIENCE
>complaining about sjws

retard

>>19756992
>two bottles
>drunk
Do you weigh 80 pounds?

>>19759500
Do you even go to university, or do you just browse /pol/?

Today I made a post
About people who deserve hate the most
How Asians eat bugs
And how niggers are thugs
How all women are whores
And how Jews start all our wars
You called me a hateful Nazi
And said you wanted to scalp me
But your threats will not make me leave
Because these things I do not believe
Bigotry is only something that I employ
Because your anger brings me joy

Thoughts?

>>19759491
no matter what you do run from humanities

>>19759491
I majored in an engineering field. If money/career wasn't a thing, I would have majored in English. I still took a lot of literature courses as GEs or whatnot. I didn't run into any SJWs in class, and I went to a public school in California. I did run into a few outside of class.

My advice to you, if you want to avoid lunatic liberals, would be to avoid gay White men and White women of any orientation, for at least the first year of college. They go insane with ideology, and it takes them a bit to calm down. In my uni experience, Asians/Indians straight up ignore liberal ideology beyond lip service, Blacks are cynics about it, Latinos don't really care, but Whites, especially women and LGBTs, go to an extreme with it.

this is a very high quality meme
>"As I killed my future self he thanked me, why did he thank me?"

>>19759559
>Will live forever in the split second before his death
I wonder if this is what happens. Imagine if from your perspective, you never truly die, you just get closer and closer to death, asymptotically. You never reach it.

>>19759559
It's OK. A good 3/5. I saved.

>>19759593
couldn't tell you if that's the case but that was my interpretation of the death in good old neon

>>19759596
>couldn't tell you if that's the case
I hope it's not, to be frank. I just want my heaven.

>reading something supposed to be in english
>keeps inserting special characters in the text that are not present in english
>pic rel is a selection from just 2 pages of text
>need a linguistics degree just to read a book

>>19759703
filtered

>>19758695
Yeah the "there's no meaning" meme falls flat when you realize everything is indictive of much more than it's isolated "self".

every time I see my crush (who has a bf) and interact with her, the next couple of days are always horrific. I become lazy, unproductive and stuck on her image. in most instances she doesn't respond to my clear intentions and wishes to stay loyal to her fawning bf but I think the spell I'm put under days after the encounter is due to some feeling of impotence that I haven't acted even MORE aggressively. this may be an error of judgement in the post-#metoo world but since she's quite dominating herself this might not be such a stretch. of course r*ddit-tier advice would tell me to move on and call me an asshole but idgaf honestly. forgive the crush posting i know it makes up half these threads at times.

>>19756862
Hate to say it but I'm kind of grateful to racism for giving me the day off from work tomorrow. It's MLK day. Now how bout a George Floyd day? kek

I flushed all my dudeweed down the drain after getting cross faded last night. I'm not growing as a person because I suppress pain with drugs. That pain must be faced head-on to grow into the type of person I want to be (courageous, strong, noble). The next few weeks will be hard because I've been using for five years, and I'll have lots to unpack. Hopefully, this will provide opportunities for self-realization and newfound wisdom.

>>19756862
So much of my worry and disquietude regard the medical and biological barriers to spiritual desires. I want to create meaningful art, but for that I need a higher IQ and better abilities in concentration and a healthier prefrontal cortex and other things—and for all of that I need to research pills and treatments and supplements. I want loving and meaningful relationships with other people, but society’s – especially romance’s – biological barrier to entry is steep and remorseless and forbidding: divinity of face and physique are nearly essential – and to strive toward that is to follow wisdom books entirely medical in nature.

>>19760134
>I want to create meaningful art, but for that I need a higher IQ and better abilities in concentration and a healthier prefrontal cortex and other things—and for all of that I need to research pills and treatments and supplements.
Dont make excuses. If you want to make meaningful art you gotta do do do do do do.

They say there is no try only do. But in this case you need to try try try try. And before you know it you will be making meaningful art.

You can't be scared. Of the effort it takes. Hours and hours and months of commitment to your desire.

>>19756862

Since the beginning of Hollywood's so-called Golden Age there's been a running trade in female star and starlet solid stools and dung. In fact, rumour has it that there's an old mansion ensconced in the Hollywood Hills endowed with a sorta of dungeon or "cave” that functions as a secret museum dedicated to the preservation and display of Howard Hughes’ Sadean collection of the firm and well-formed stools of most of the superstar actresses he dated (and many other girls as well). He'd insist they try and try again until they got the form, size, weight, and texture just right, then he'd have the final product embalmed in synthetic "amber," i.e. a transparent silicone resin made to his exacting technical and aesthetic specifications: think Jurassic Park for the "backlogs," "end shows," and "back lot productions" of some of Hollywood's most famous female Golden Age names.

Has anyone here ever been cured of clinical depression?
How?

>>19760273
halfway cured. i'm manic depressive. 6-8 months of mania and then BAM the depression hits.

>>19760278
How’s the mania? Is it worth it?

>>19760273
i just started my first depression a couple of weeks ago, i'll get back to you in a month or something.

I've thought of killing myself, on average, every other day for the past seven years.

>>19760348
C’mon give me some fucking hope.

>>19760283
I can get 3 years of writing done in 6 months of mania. It's better than cocaine.

>>19760364
So lucky. I just always want to slit my throat.

I just don't know anymore.

>>19760375
oh the suicidal intent is redoubled in the depressive episodes, dont worry. i'm trying to push it down being fake-happy to keep the mania fueled longer but i've reached the end. funny how everything can turn on its ass in one day and you know you can never go back. but man, the mania makes me feel alive. i'm Alexander during the mania. and then one day i wake up and it's all evaporated with not even the slightest vapor remaining me.

>>19756862
I am terribly anxious about climate change; I'm eighteen and I always feel like I'm in a never-edning quandary as I would like to either pursue philosophy or art in university, yet I feel like the world as we know it is going to end and I'm miserably going to be overwhelmed by its drastical changes related to global warming.

I know what (I think) I want as I am always looking for other's people encouragment and approval (as in this exact moment as I'm writing these word out), yet no matter how much I'm reassured, I seem unable to overcome my anxiety.

>>19760390
rest asured then, your cure is easy--climate change is fake, all just a scam to sell electric cars with a 7 year battery lifespan.

>>19760388
While suicidal, are you at least aware you’re 6-8months away from bliss?

>>19760390

>>19760418
no. it feels like the depression is the final dark terminal. and it might be if i dont keep my promises not to do away with myself in a fit.

>>19760390
This is what propaganda does to people.

>>19760422
I can understand that.

>>19760433
funny enough just read some article on authors being twice as likely as the general population to commit suicide.

>>19760422
Mania is women and fags.

>>19760208
not that anon but should i still be publishing things that I know are shit in hopes of receiving good feedback? things being outside of the realm of literature at times.

I wish I could marry a cute 10 year old girl. However,

>>19760600
In the tropics there are a lot of physically fully developed

>>19760600
it's probably legal in some american states

I'm kind of a man out of time. Only really had the chance to truly start understanding the world and getting out in 2017. But I definitely enjoy older media a lot more. Today I just saw the start of Diablo 2 for the first time. (Again, I've been playing catch-up ever since 2017.) And I have to say, what the fuck happened? Just that beginning cutscene was 20x more interesting than than 90 percent of other dumb movies and games coming out today. Why are no good stories being written anymore? Why can't anything be cool anymore? I'm sure there has to be some small time books, or writers that are still trucking on like the early 00's never ended, but I definitely don't know about them. What the hell happened to our culture?

>>19760438
Is there a reason to this? A link to intelligence? Self-awareness, perhaps?

>>19756862
not sure why i always feel like there's more to do
why should there be?

>>19760645
>>19760661
I'm just hoping that when I die I get the isekai treatment.

>>19760273
It very gradually went away (after 4-5 years). Felt content after 1 year then normal for 3 years. Then I became depressed again, 2 years and counting.

My balls hurt. I'm sick from the vaccine. My ass hurts. It's hot.

>>19756862
i'm the drunkest man this side of the mason dixon

>>19760663
>Why are no good stories being written anymore
but the story in diablo 2 is very basic and generic. this is what i liked about it though, they don't shove anything in your throat and let you play. they focused more on the "story" in diablo 3, with cutscenes and everything, and man was it fucking terribly bad.

>>19760811
That's the thing. It just feels like nothing of any substance is being written anymore.

>>19760929
It still is. The big problem is there is less than before and now the few good things produced are completely drowned in an infinite amount of shitty stuff. You just have to dig a lot to find it, but it's still there.

>>19759528
Here's a love poem by Anon
To sedate his bach'lor's woe
For he fears the wrath of Han
Will bury him alone:

"Transvestite five-star gen'rals
Command goblins to demise
'Suppressive fire', they gurgle
For the land of the circumcised.

Yet hypersonic warheads
Cannot blast me from your side
Embracing, we evaporate
From NORAD's final lie."

The disheartened, desperate Romeo
Dreams a mirage of Juliet,
Writing wistful, war-torn verses
Whlist kissing his cigarette.

>>19759441
I would say I think you need a few years of sobriety under your belt before you can safely think about re-integrating dat erb into your life. I was off booze for a few years before I had a drink and I've never been anywhere near my auld bad habits. I don't know that I could have said the same had I chosen to get back into it sooner. Gl anyway, mane.

>>19759491
Minor in statistics. It'll be the most practical minor you can pick up and you'll definitely avoid the types you're talking about. Also: having a good mind for stats lets you read academic papers for what they are and not be dependent on somebody else's interpretation of the data. Often, the data are fucked. Helps to be able to spot such things.

I don't understand nihilism.

Do I have HIV?

a nigga need ta get his dick sucked

>>19758253
>>19758396
kek these are both epic bait

>>19760663
Back in those days, vidya were created by teams of 15-50 people. Today the AAA games have I believe 300+ people working on them. So it’s not really a good comparison. (Design by committee/investors kicks in and ruins the super large scale projects…)
If you look at the games that are created today by smaller teams, there is plenty of good ones. "Bastion" e.g. I enjoyed tremendously (the later Supergiant Games titles become a bit too quirky for my taste though).
But the smaller teams know they can’t compete on "realism" with the super big projects, so they don’t usually do 3D rendered cut scenes etc. anymore.

I need to cold apply for an intership today, it makes me anxious as fuck

>>19761081
What part of it?

The state has failed in providing me a place i can readily find young, amiable, virgin women to pick from in search of a mate, for this reason i will be quitting it.

>>19761890
Why would such a woman want you nigger

>>19759942
move on

>>19760955
I don't get it.

>>19760675
a factor could unironically be starving for affection

>>19760929
for video games it could be that there was less fierce competition, and that companies took greater risks and did more passion-projects. I'm not sure that's true, but if it is, and it seems it could be, that could be a factor. There was money, basically.

I feel so angry and afraid.

Today on the drive back home from work I almost died twice. First I almost crashed into an urban train while overtaking a slow car, second I almost crashed into a tree on the road. Too bad I didn't finish the job. It felt liberating.

There's the biggest snowstorm of the year outside and I just got back from blowing the snow with my tractor. I hate it. I don't have a cabin and, most of the time during snowstorms, the winds blows from the northeast, which is exactly in line with the 300 m long road that connects my house to the main lane. I literally cannot see what I'm doing as the snow just gets blown back right into my face, every time. And I can't wait for the wind to die down because the geometry of the road makes it so that huge snow banks form in some areas, and once the snow becomes packed from the wind, it's very hard to remove, specially since my tractor is only 30 hp and the PTO is kind of slipping so I don't have all the power going in the blower most of the time.

At least it's daytime, a lot of snowstorms are during the night. In those times, I usually have to get up at 4 am, go get snow shoved in my face for 30 minutes while it's pretty much pitch dark.

>>19760390
Well, yes global warming is going to be very bad and will likely lead to the collapse of civilization. That is indeed true and tragic.

But on the other hand, civilization is not going to collapse next week. That will happen decades from now, and simply being morose and fearful in the meantime will not help you or stop the crisis. You have to live your life. Prepare for the future, by all means, but continue doing what you need to do and what you want to do. The Earth will warm whether you do so or not.

And frankly anon, you could die or suffer a lot sooner than three decades from now, when global warming will really start causing chaos. You could (heaven forbid) get hit by a car, or struck by lightning, or whatever, but those possibilities shouldn't make you fearful of everything. My point is that you cannot just live in fear all the time. You have to live the best life you can.

>>19760395
>>19760420
>>19760426
>Climate change isn't real
I wish you guys were right, I truly do

>>19760390
Have fun in the real world nigga.

Three years ago I made a tremendous misstep in my career, and now I constantly think of ways to recover while salvaging this story of my career trajectory. I consistently come up empty handed.

>>19762675
Do you want a kiss?

So I was part of this discord and had some people I could call "friends", acted normal around them, never let them know I was desperate for friendship. Got banned a year ago because of politics. Sent friend requests to everyone, only one guy accepted but he didn't talk much so I let it slide and only talk to him once in a while. Decided to create an alt and go check out what people have been saying about me. Expected at least implied regret from the 5-6 people I used to talk to. Nope, everyone there secretly hated me. I found messages like "so glad anon is gone", "anon was so fucking weird lmao", "lmao he was so immature", "fr guy needed therapy". Now I'm super scared thinking the few people I know irl also think this behind my back and only say stuff like "you're smart anon" to please me? I've never done this to anyone. Is this how people are bros?

O solitude thou

O solitude thou cavern perplexing,
You rouse the mind to weeping and to sighs,
To thinking and to seeing pasts reprised,
Yet you replace vexing with forgetting.

O solitude thou chrysalis of hours,
From gloom to gloam to gleaming morn you pass,
A brazen image turned to molten brass,
Such is secret contemplation’s power.

O solitude thou crystal of delight,
That makes the heart ignite with memory,
Recount the luster of your treasury,
The jewels of a life, its peace and blithe.

O solitude thou cistern of repose,
Thou fountain that enbosom’s each repine,
From Raven’s cry to descant most sublime,
With silence that seems sleeping you enclose.

>>19762701
You write like one of those slam poets. Stop fucking rhyming

>>19762689
It's probably how that group is. Could be your perception too. Sometimes the reason why people have strong friend groups they stuck around no matter what is because that group is what enables them. The extreme example is drug addicts being willing to hang around people they have moral conflict with because, well, they have drugs too. If you don't want to be part of a group that bonds over hating an outgroup, then you might have dodged a bullet. But if you do want to be part of a group that bonds through talking about people they feel contempt for, you're probably on the right track with discord, and could also try many subreddits.
Friendships that bond over other things you might need to work out for yourself, depending on what type of thing you want to bond over.

I'm currently job hunting inside Germany/Austria because my German is around C1/C2 level, so why the hell not. I'm in contact with one recruiter from Austria, and that woman fights more to get me a job than I do. I'm the lazy bum in this relationship. I know, that's literally her job, but getting a mail from her at 5:30 asking if I want to apply to this new job posting made me contemplate my whole behaviour. I wasn't even up until 6:40, and I answered a few days later.

Then one guy from Germany said that they've filled the position, I answered his mail 20 days later, and he added "but I like your CV and German skills, do you want me to send your biography to some people I know?"

Holy fuck I should get my shit together.

>>19762689
A lot of people use mutual dislike of something as a way to strengthen their bonds. Don't take it too personally, probably only a few of them seriously dislike you, the rest are just going along with it to feel included. Humans are shitty and tribalistic like that.

>>19762767
Austria doesn't speak Hochdeutsch, so if you get posted to Wien or something you might have to learn dialect for day to day things. You'll get a lot of offers from there though because someone who learnt only Hochdeutsch will make them seem less Austrian to German clients.

>>19762743
I enjoy rhyming and high rhyme too much in my reading not to use it

>>19762749
Are all human relationships like that? Can I never have one of those friendships people have in early 20th century Japanese novels? Or ones in Russian novels?
>>19762773
I see, you're probably right. It's weird cause the people I disagreed with there and didn't talk to much don't talk about me at all while the ones I did think of as friends all hold me in extreme contempt. One guy in particular uses every situation to bring me up and shit talk. I don't get it.

>>19762804
Thanks for the info. I visited Vorarlberg once and sat at a table with some older drunk Austrian guy. I undrstood like 10% of what he was saying. And then there was that one blonde at the reception, zero clue.

I get compliments because of my pronounciation though, I've started learning German as a kid and kept it fresh with German literature.

The application process is fun, only thing holding me back, aside from myself, is being non-EU citizen. Got a rejection for a pretty good React position because of that, but the girl told me that she'll keep an eye out in case someone might want me. I'm making allies along the way.

>>19762824
>Are all human relationships like that
Like which? Do you mean the first example of bonding or the second? This question suggests some part of this is your perception; you want me to say yes or no to what is probably the negative form of bonding and ignore I showed positive forms. It's probably why you're giving them more time than the expiration of your friendship too. You might be stuck in a pattern of all or nothing where you manoeuvre yourself and others into a negative pattern, and so seeking out people who bond through outgroup contempt to prove to yourself things always fit your pattern.
That one guy who keeps bringing you up is stuck in a similar pattern, and if you focus on the negative, you will find that guy in every group you choose to join, because you are interlocking pieces. It takes two to tango, and the 20th C novel you're choosing to live from Japan is Naomi.

I have comfy memories from Mishima's The Sailor, I know some of the parts are fucked up, but the overall feeling he left me with still sticks. I fear rereading the novel will ruin it for me.

>>19762850
What they're looking for is someone who can do the Berliner Ch for a lot of speaking roles, so they know the second you say Ich whether you're right to put on the phone. Austira and a lot of places which might be considered bumpkin have a soft almost sch, and Berlin has ich come out almost like ik. You'll find it easier to get hired for speaking roles in Bavaria and Saxony too because their dialect is like WTF language is this to a lot of Prussia.

>>19762862
Haven't read any Tanizaki yet. Also, yes you're probably correct. How do I break out of it? It's hard cause I live in the middle of nowhere and I have no social skills so I cannot find a friend irl. So I go online and meet people and I always like to think I am extremely cynical (probably just paranoid) but even then this kind of thing happens to me once in a while and I just feel totally betrayed. I feel like I'm always pretending to be someone else, always imitating a character from a book or from a TV show. I struggle with originality.

>>19762891
I've read Spring Snow 5 years ago, but I never continued with the series, should I? It would include re-reading Spring Snow though.

>>19761043
i dont think i can do a few years.

in my dream last night i was standing naked in the rain. it was very pleasant.

>>19762904
Looks like I'm closer to speaking Hochdeutsch than any other German. My pronounciation is from German TV, dubbed american series and anime that ran on RTL2 back in the day. Whenever I try one of the accents, it sounds like a parody, like I'm making fun of them, mocking them from above.

Then when I switch to English, I can sound like a full blown Slav.

>>19762917
You need to accept not everyone will love you and there is nothing you can do to win them over. Stop putting in the effort for people who do not and will never give a fuck for you. It's not your job to change their mind, and spending time trying to win the unwinnable is sunk cost you're just going to have to walk away from.

>>19762959
Yeah... I know that. I thought you'd say something original.

>>19762972
Well, you could stop doing the same thing over and over, maybe you're not into new shit.

It's crazy how 4chan's standards for stuff drop to 0 once they learn it's Japanese

>>19762986
It's hard. To break out. It is like I am always displaying affectations but the fact that I'm fully aware of it makes me feel "bigger" than people around me but at the same time the very fact that I'm typing this and including the part of being self aware is just another affectation, probably doing this to please you, a stranger ha

>>19762959
I had 3 different conversations about the same topic and every person ended up judging me differently based on what I said.

From that I'm arrogant, to that I'm a bit confused, and last that I'm a little bit of fun.

>>19762972
I like DFW's This Is Water because he embraces clichés, I have a pretty good defense of traditionalism and theology that's based on the same principle, it was a fun thing to research

>>19762689
>discord
>friends
Doesn't count. It's so easy to talk shit on the internet. I don't count any relationship I have online as "real" until we've hung out irl a few times at least

is there any hope for sffg at this point?

>>19762955
Austrian dialect is probably the easiest because it is softer but most of the heavy lifting of the dialect is learning some substitute vocab.

>>19762999
Yeah man, I watch This is Water every few months. It always gets me. His books are pretty incredible too. Maybe im midwit idk

>>19756862
I feel that I should leave 4chan but there is no other place to go. what shiuld I do? no, I won't make friends and touch grass

That so many people expect a piece of media to cure their depression or whatever really shows us how much our relation to media has changed in the past 100 years
It's supposed to be a fun hobby, you know? Don't get carried away

>>19756862
The ancients used the language of the cosmos, we use the language of the gizmos.

I'm trying not to jerk off as much. I don't watch porn but I jerk off a lot, mostly because for the thrill and I'm a loveless virgin. I don't give a shit about nofap but I think it'd be healthy

>>19762689
ignore everyone else here because it is all cope. You are like me in that we are weirdos and just not suited for socialisation. We aren't victims, they are victims and we are the abusers.

>>19763126
It's a two way street

>>19763169
You are in the disadvantageous position you fucking underage zoomer so you have no leverage in this power dynamic. What are you gonna do? Complain? You are the abuser. I am the abuser. They are the victim because they have to put up with our incompetence and social inadequacies and our selfishness and egotistical behaviour.

>>19762701
Shut the fuck up

>>19763065
This dumbass take just shows to me that you don't know shit about the history of art, literature and entertainment. 100 years ago people were making political parties out of art movements and starting riots at ballet concerts because they considered the music to be a little too funky. Be it in communist Russia or fascist Italy, artists and poets had a tremendous influence on the zeitgeist.

>>19762689
kek

Reading E.B. White's letter collection made me a better person. The letter he wrote to Alice Burchfield was truly beautiful.

"I'm wishing you lots of luck this spring with Bianca and chemistry and whatever else you take it into your head to get interested in. Once in a while take a lazy look down the valley when the train is whistling and rememeber this: that there are some things in the world that I never change my mind about, and one of 'em's you."

>>19763296
gay

>>19762689
Also possible that you have autism (level one, formerly Asperger's).
I am diagnosed and what you described is very classic and textbook sperg.
It could be that you were actually weird and annoying but you just weren't aware that you were and could be that they gave you ample hints at that but that you just never picked them up.

I long for death and life.

leave me alone

>>19763254
>take
It's an opinion. Call it an opinion.

>>19762701
https://voca.ro/1g2uYG1w1L75

>>19763806
why do americans/anglos have such feminine voices

>>19763951
Post voice.

>>19763668

>>19763956
no, my mom thinks that I am sleeping

>>19763668
>>19763987
Death comes for all in time. Stop worrying about it and live your life. Enjoy it. Read something like this maybe.

Not to be racist but I understand why Asians and Jews are targeted for violence. They play the white guy card without having the social value of white guys. Within their own culture, they have social hierarchies and high statuses that they expect everyone to observe. But outsiders don't give a shit and finds their pretense unfounded.

The worse is sometimes you think maybe they're right and they are superior.

I went to Chinatown and I shopped around a small grocery store. I needed noodles and they have a great variety at dirty cheap price. I'm eating some udon noodles as I type this with some mackerel and jalapenos.

Anyways, at the checkout the Chinese lady didn't look up. Just checked out my items. I don't think it's rude on her part but I just feel like a big, hairy ape compared to small, hairless, quiet Chinese people. The store was empty as I was picking out stuff to buy but at the checkout some really ritzy looking Chinese people came in.

It's like their all in the pretense together. Even the cashier is in this pretense. But I am not.

Jews deserve that shit, tho.

>>19764377
What are “white guy social values” and where are they different from these other guy’s values?

>>19763951
>>19763988
https://voca.ro/1a1O7dnH7hBm

>>19764377
>The worse is sometimes you think maybe they're right and they are superior

Take the yellow pill anon

tfw I'm unironically glad this thread exists

>>19764412
Feels like latinos and black have been here for a long time and they're played second fiddle to white people.

I'm not about to make arguments as to why white people are first fiddle. New York, Boston, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Ohio and all those states are founded by whites. The oldest towns and the most expensive counties are filled with white people.

Then come Asians and Jews and they try to skip the line over latinos and black. The Jews section off brooklyn just for themselves, they have that band going around New York that they claim gives them sovereignty. A fucking guy has the right to say, hey man I'm familiar with fucking Irish bastards and Italian bastards but what the fuck is this matzah ball? Why the fuck is this kike peaking a fight with a palestians? They brought palestianians with them? They're bringing their own second fiddles? Fuck'em. At least the italians brought gangster movies and pasta.

Thinking about how I used to tell people I was 23 when I was really 18 while overseas because I got sick of people overreacting at how young I was. Most people seemed to buy it but in retrospect a lot also must have seen through it, mostly because I had zero knowledge of the world. Didn't stop me from losing my virginity to this 30 year old French bitch though.

Labour not unwillingly, nor without regard to the common interest, nor without due consideration, nor with distraction; nor let studied ornament set off thy thoughts, and be not either a man of many words, or busy about too many things. And further, let the deity which is in thee be the guardian of a living being, manly and of ripe age, and engaged in matter political, and a Roman, and a ruler, who has taken his post like a man waiting for the signal which summons him from life, and ready to go, having need neither of oath nor of any man's testimony. Be cheerful also, and seek not external help nor the tranquility which others give. A man then must stand erect, not be kept erect by others.

>>19764412
Asian culture is about saving face. White American culture is about straightforward honesty, and some expected humility.
There are no American aristocrats. A wealthy business owner is more or less behaving the same way as a middle class truck driver.
Asians that "Americanize" don't acculturate many of these subtle unconscious features, and many of them become conceited in that process when they lose their own traditional culture. They don't understand what it means to be "American," because it's not in some training manual.

>>19764533
>White American culture is about straightforward honesty, and some expected humility.
>There are no American aristocrats. A wealthy business owner is more or less behaving the same way as a middle class truck driver.
You are as naive as you are uninformed.

>>19764544
Whatever you say, faggot.

>>19764563
You bet, racist.

>>19764544
>>19764563
>>19764597

Music is the only thing that makes me feel alive
And it feels good

>>19762804
bullshit. most people in vienna speak, and everyone understands, hochdeutsch.

>>19756862
Wishbone died during 9/11.

All my friends who are in long term relationships have girlfriends with higher status / higher paying jobs than them. Although this is an anecdotal refutation of the incel discourse that women only date those of higher status, I actually bring it up as evidence of the fact that the modern workforce suits women far better than men.

Was watching TV for the first time in ages and every single ad with a couple was interracial. Seems like an over-correction lol.

>>19764444
checked

>>19757164
What pen pal site if you don't mind sharing? I'd like to meet someone in that manner. I can't do Tinder and direct conversion right now.

>>19765085
not him, but people on /int/ use interpals

>>19765105
thanks

will i be more attractive to egirls if i get tattoos?

My life is amazing and I feel... guilty
I mean really I have every box checked off now: got a great career job, living in my early 20s, found a committed SO that loves me, hobbies, friends, great mental health, good physical health, working from home, lots of cash, plenty of PTO, creative passions, loving family etc. I've heard other people claim that true happiness does not exist. That shit ain't true. I have no idea what I did to deserve this kind of reward in life.

Not the hottest take, but I'm just saying that a lot of vegans/vegetarians actually just have eating disorders. "Ethical concerns" over the "treatment of animals" is just horseshit most of the time. Having to prove their high-minded virtues even when (nay, especially when) it's about something as mundane as food, is also an indicator of a God complex. I remember first noticing these psychological quirks when an old friend of mine turned vegan, and started only referring to meat as "animals", ie, "oh no thanks I don't eat animals." He wasn't very good at hiding the blatant virtue signaling. This friend would also get very flustered for no reason, easily feeling like he was "persecuted". There was always this decidedly self-pitying tone when we would decide to go to a restaurant where he "couldn't eat" (as if his people were banned or something.) Then he would mope, but quickly we stopped caring because clearly this was some sort of show he put on for himself. Who knows, maybe some kind of self-flagellation. Probably?
Anyway, not just him, but my friend's sister (and two other women I used to know), clearly use the vegan thing as permission to berate people about their "contributions to a monstrous industry". It always just seems a little too clear that the point itself is the opportunity to berate people, and to gain immediate attention for an arbitrary moral high-ground. It's fucking creepy.
Also, I knew another fat girl who grew up without a dad (yes, I'm making assumptions), and she clearly had an undiagnosed eating disorder: picking almost everything out of her food, calorie counting, random and sudden self-imposed restrictions on arbitrary kinds of foods only to retract them again at random). She suddenly went vegan, too, and made it her whole personality for about 9 years.

>>19756862
i hate big company work culture
i used to work for small local businesses but repeatedly lost jobs because of my own stupid bad decisions and now i have to work for globohomo megacorp
i hate it so much
i had to watch 2 hours of orientation videos for an entry level job
they have proprietary apps you have to use, they have some kind of social media bulletin thing, you have to make a dozen different accounts, they have "self care" resources, they're always rambling about how we're all a big fucking family and we're here to support each other and it's in such obvious contrast to the reality of the situation. the people at the location i went to didn't even know my hiring manager by name. training is remote. interacting with people is barely part of the job. i am almost completely alienated from my coworkers.
i used to be a gardener, i planted flowers and wiped the dirt off on my jeans and i'd shoot the shit with the postman and was on a first name basis with guy who owned the place.
this is penance for my rampant irresponsibility, there's no other explanation. i'm being punished
they even have the weird corporate meme art

>>19764799
>training : back flip
very nice

>>19764834
Women are starting to become far more educated than men so that isn't really a surprise.

I don't know what to think.

>>19765344
>they're always rambling about how we're all a big fucking family and we're here to support each other and it's in such obvious contrast to the reality of the situation.
this is really very interesting, because it is always exactly like this which seems to imply that this is taught at business school, which in turn seems to imply that there is some real psychology behind this

>>19765414
i try not to
>>19765438
putting aside how profoundly unpleasant it is for me, what i don't understand is how it helps the company's bottom dollar. what do they gain from spewing transparent bullshit that nobody takes seriously? or endlessly complicating simple tasks? making employees spend more time on the clock doing nothing productive? if it was simple greed i wouldn't bat an eye at it, but i can't even chalk it up to that. it's like the red tape has a mind of its own and nobody's at the reins anymore

My friends work in offices and stare at excel sheets all day, I could never enjoy life in that way.

>>19764741
Hochdeutsch speakers don't necessarily understand what a Beisl is, or a Häferl, so anon's going to have to pick up shit like that to get by in everyday life. In English, it's like insisting a mug is a cup all the time or, in the other direction, insisting on the French pronunciation of restaurant in English. Most people will find you weird for trying to seek accommodation on those points.
Without the vocabulary problem, the accent still affects how you speak Hochdeutsch. Someone from a rural heavily accented English speaking area no doubt understands someone speaking Received Pronunciation English, but they would need hard core speech training to successfully imitate the accent.
And there is a notable prejudice in the same way someone in Paris who does not speak Parisian french is immediately marked as provincial. Bavarians also get the same kind of prejudice that Austrians get, and someone who can sound like they didn't learn German naturally there can obviate those problems.
>tl;Dr LMAO HE SAYS HAIDEGGER LIKE EVERYONE AROUND HEIDEGGER WOULD some real shit son

>>19765587
Do you enjoy life now?

I busted my lip and hurt my thumb while sledding

>>19765637
Yes I enjoy what I can get out of life. I just don't want to get stuck in an office. I'm thinking of making some good options trades and never have to go an office.

>I don’t want to die, either, of course. I just want to live, in stasis, never progressing or regressing in any direction at all, indefinitely. Like a fungus.

>>19765748
This is the conservatives mindset.

>>19765681
Sounds like fun. Why’d you have to spoil it and post another frog?

>>19765587
Same man. It unironically makes me want to kill myself. I keep hoping that I will grow out of it but no such luck.

I've said this before, but I'd like to be reincarnated into a fantasy world and have adventures with cute girls.

>>19765748
That's enlightenment

>>19765787
back to seething at frogposts? what happened? you were doing so well

I think I am actually keeping It together really well, considering the circumstances.

>>19756862
brew tastin like i already puked it up and i'm drinking it a second time

>>19765831
I’m not seething at anything. They are like twenty years old now.

>>19765821
In what sense?

>>19765787
>No! I want to normalize debauchery and mental illness! Progress!
Seethe harder buttertranny.

>>19765888
You’re reading wayyy too much into that. Did you want to have a discussion about it or just make nonsensical squealing?

>>19765880
never progressing or regressing in any direction at all, indefinitely. That's an enlightenment state of being, someone who is enlightened does not regress or progress in any direction.

>>19765894
But by who’s idea? Usually we’re talking about the French enlightenment revolutionary age sort. This kind of enlightenment is still unfolding (no matter what the neoliberals say) in science and politics. There’s road blocks in “scientism” and “end of history” hubris, but this is a stalling conservatism…
Or are we talking about some eastern philosophy?

>>19765893
What are the odds of you having a meltdown tonight?

>>19765909
The Eastern philosophical enlightenment, the original person said I not we and started out with talking about death.

>>19765909
by my idea bitch and I dont give a SHIT what you think

>>19765925
Nill

>>19765932
Oh okay, nm

>>19765942
Do you ever have a moment of self-awareness where you realize you're in your late 30s, a virgin, and posting on 4chan?

>>19765211
Enjoy, I wish I had that. I'm working on it

I am slowly sleepwalking into a corner

>>19766050
You're clearly awake

I'm using the computer in my dream. Hello.

I'm so terribly tired.

How to stop being cringe and saying cringe things? Is the only way to stop being made fun of is to shut up?

I realized the other day that Objectivists/Randians are no longer a cultural presence. They were always sort of around, so to speak, during the 00's and 10's internet. Especially during the New-Atheism days on YouTube. I am sure there are some still kicking making content, but they don't seem to project themselves as force anymore.

I find it funny because the whole internet debate ecosystem that has risen over the last decade seems like the perfect environment for them considering it is primarily comprised of politically charged university age people who engage in flowchart/dialogue tree style argumentation, the emphasis on identifying logical fallacies in your opponent, DESTROYING communists etc.

Idk, its just oddly quite. Maybe Zoomers killed them.

rupi kaur looks like the kind of woman who swallowed some dude semen once and didn't get thanked so she made her incredulity her whole personality.

this is a quite common sentiment but does basically everyone in the arts have a unhealthy relationship with their parents but more particularly their fathers? I do and I've noticed that the people around me who are involved in the art creation or in solely the partying do as well. it manifests itself in different ways, some girls are promoscious, some are exhibitionist, some guys are overly aggressive, others are detached and goul-like. I haven't explored why this should be the case but i've always been intrigued by who is attracted to certain spaces and the pieces of conversations/familiar faces always points to this common pattern above all. my guess is that art for the artist is the ultimate avenue for the expression of control, a control that is regained and refined after the imposition of laws by the father. for those surrounding the artists, the law-less-ness of the space is attractive either because it either supports their law-less upbringing (missing father) or it gives access to the opposite of their upbringing (tyrannical father).

What's your biggest regret in life? Mine is not closing the toilet seat that one time.

>>19756862
Do you guys think there will be physical intimacy in the afterlife (I'm reffereing to sex)?

>>19766287
I bluffed my way in to the most prestigious film school in my country, the one that the industry actually recruited out of, but I chickened out because I was nervous I couldn't maintain the façade.

>>19766147
>only way to stop being made fun of
Having sex also works if you're in high school or university.

>>19766297
Sex would be as trivial an experience as drinking Pepsi. The afterlife can have pleasure greater than what we imagine. Thinking of sex is too narrow a view. Everything could be very different from what you understand now, like a being that goes from 2D to 3D.

>>19766317
But I'd want pepsi aswell, except i dont like pepsi so maybe really good beer.
i never liked the idea of heaven being inhuman, I just want a nice world to explore and friends.

>>19766297
I think universes are spawned by Gods and Goddesses making love in heavenly realms.

>>19766333
That's what you'd like now. As a child you probably had different ideas on what you want.

The age of reason has inflicted man with an asphyxia of the mind. We live in an age of corporate bodies. We experience collectively approved emotions on a national scale. Any deviation is considered neurotic, insane or subversive. Our individual vision has been sacrificed for an amazingly limited range of collective perceptions which we learn from childhood by repetition and limitation the way a parrot learns to swear. Our society believes in words, not people or things. We are abstract. When we perceive an object or person or feeling we see a word first, and, if we are not already too far gone, the thing later. Our world is no longer populated with trees and storms and stones and blood but the words « trees », « storms », « stones », « blood ». Our mania for equality and affluence achieved through systems of logic and order has meant that we must reject our natural chaos and all accept the same way of perceiving the so-called « real-world ».

>>19766339
But its the same in essence. If you asked me then i'd probably want to live in a fantasy world, same as now, only my tastes are better.

>>19766297
no
>>19766333
i also enjoy pepsi and beer but i can think of better things. trips of Christ tho

>>19766361
>Our society believes in words, not people or things. We are abstract. When we perceive an object or person or feeling we see a word first, and, if we are not already too far gone, the thing later

Tell that to Wittgenstein

Another sleepless night, bros

>>19756862
THE NUMBERS
WHAT DO THEY MEAN

>>19766363
If you're an ascended being it would probably be like your experience from childhood to adulthood but a millionfold. What you want would then be completely different. But you're afraid of becoming the thing beyond adult, like some children are afraid of becoming adults.

>>19756862
I AM GOING TO PROPOSE TO MY EX I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES
WE'RE NOT GONNA BE HERE IN A YEAR ANYWAY

>>19766378
Alright. I realize this is a little retarded to try and discuss but I'd be happy to know that there will exist some sort of campionship between men and women. I mean men and women coming togethor is a tale as old as time, it's human bro. I don't just want to gaze upon God's 5 dimensional face and listen to angel music, I want women aswell.

>>19766381
Go for it man, if it all goes to shit you can write a book about it.

I have devised a political ideology which I believe is the best to ever exist. It ascends above neoliberalism, fascism, communism, anarchism, etc.

I will not share it with the world, yet. First I must live it, and through my actions prove it can work on the smallest of scales. From there it will grow, and as others see it is the best system, they will replicate it. I leave this post here as a reminder of what will be.

>>19766395
The reason for that is procreation, not much use in an afterlife. That's kinda the point of "afterlife". As for adventures, I think that's possible. Afterlife doesn't mean omnipotence, so I imagine you'd want to discover God's vast creation, maybe even interact with alien life. Of course I don't really know for certain, just what I think.

I once found my room mate's girlfriend's panties in my laundry
she was quite attractive
I sometimes wonder whether it was intentional or an accident

>>19766368
Early Wittgenstein or Late Wittgenstein?

Everything sucks pretty much all of the time. Each month there is so new bullshit I have to deal with. Its just going to be this for the rest of my life huh? I guess that's what life is.

>>19766510
100% an accident

here is the funny part about the "manosphere": it succeeded. I used to read a lot of PUA/NRX/manosphere/redpill bloggers back in the early 2010s. that was the manosphere heyday. Guys like Roosh, Rollo Tomassi, Roissy, Ian Ironwood, Aaron Clarey, Jack Donovan, Dalrock, redpillschool, Moldbug, etc. were king. Visit any of the literal 100s of blogs and sites that were thriving 10 years ago and 97% are completely dead and shut down. Even the guys who are left have moved to grift (Rollo, Clarey) or gone into the religious deepend (Roosh, Danger and Play, etc). Yet their ideas are everywhere. They're all over the internet today: hypergamy, alpha/beta dichotomy, male reluctance towards marriage, MGTOW/NEET movement, weightlifting culture, "alt-right" Trump-style politics on the left, "game" to pick up girls, social proof, cryptocurrency, gynocracy, etc. These ideas which only now have fully filtered into the online and hence public consciousness were being discussed by these pioneers in the late 2000s and early 2010s. The "red pill" in fact later directly gave birth to the blackpill and incel movement, later on, which we obviously see the effects of today.

Think about that. Random, anonymous men posting on wordpress blogs and obscure forums helped shaped the political and cultural direction of a large segment of society 10+ years later. That is truly amazing. Of course my thought was completely revolutionized and changed, in many ways for the better, by manosphere ideas, but today we see the trickle down of what people discussing fringe ideas anonymously can do. If you know the word "game" or "hypergamy" or say "alpha or beta" in regard to men, you can directly thank the manosphere writing 15 years ago.

Of course it collapsed into political stuff by about 2014-5, and completely died with the rise of Trump, then identity wars, then of course covid. But there's something oddly comfy about those old blogs. they're very naive - politics wasn't yet dominating all aspects of life, the great recession hadn't fully hit yet effect wise, Trump and covid and online dating and tinder and social media and tiktok and snapchat and crypto were far off. Yet before all that these guys were thinking far ahead in a time when it was (relatively) mild compared to now (though who can say anything was "mild" after 9/11?). Reading those blogs about game pre-tinder, or travel pre-covid, or poltics pre-trump is oddly endearing. a lot of them truly thought things could be fixed by weightlifting, building "tribes", not marrying, etc. Their diagnosis was correct, but their solutions much too short sited. I wonder what a lot of them think now. The narrative for them too has collapsed, personally im sure.

But those blogs, that vibe, that skrillex myspace Spring Breakers era doom and gloom predictions is oddly prescient and naive, serious yet silly, endearing yet sinister. maybe i do miss the time you could listen to edm unironically.

Jesus I wish there was a way to just suck all the neuroticism out of me and RELAX. I'm a lot better than I was a few years ago and getting better still, but it is exhausting. What depresses me is the realisation that it's a somewhat immutable part of my personality and something that I'll never be rid of entirely. I just want to be able to really chill out and enjoy life without having to worry about something.

fuck this wagecucking job man it sucks

>>19766743
what is it?

>>19766734
I had a similar coming of age through those blogs. I also used Tumblr simultaneously in those days and got to see the rise of progressive stack and its use of 'fandom' as a vector for metastasization in to broader culture.

It was kind of cool having a foot in both worlds, knowing they would have to come in to conflict with each other, and then see it happen. The result of that conflict however is just tiresome and I wish for something new.

>>19766012
be nice bro. butters is cool.

>>19765211
yet you're here.

>>19759491
get out of polisci.

t. recent polisci grad

i wanna be part of the human race

>>19756862
I knew a girl back in high school, I kid you not, who once told me she always tried to "carry a little pebble of poop in [her] panties as a good luck charm." I still don't have entirely clear what "a pebble of poop" is supposed to be and even less why it's supposed to bring its bearer good luck--but her drunken words have certainly stuck with me, obviously I carry them still.

tips for meditation?

>>19766833
Yeah man… just meditate.

>>19766844
cheers

>>19756862
SPACE ISN'T REAL

>>19766844
To add: whenever you meditate, you are meditating. More tips = more signposts. Seeing signposts as signposts is meditating. Seeing signposts as goal is not.

>>19766852
we are all mostly empty space

>>19766859
you're mom was a little less empty space when i stuck my dick inside her yesterday

>>19766734
Anon, you're mistaking your introduction to culture with the start of culture. The 90s in Britain were said to be universally appalling because of lad (and ladette) culture mostly promoted by periodicals. The only thing that's really meaningfully different is that Austen adaptations back then were good to passable. (If you want to know when that wave crested, it was Bridget Jones)

>>19766882
my mum is 61 anon

How do people manage to enjoy life once they're out of college and into the workforce 5 days of the week? I guess a partner would help ease the pain.

>>19766833
Whenever you’re minding what happens it’s meditation. If you’re sticking with one certain object of interest, that’s concentration meditation. Eventually you can keep your attention long enough to see that everything you see arising will eventually pass. That’s insight meditation. If you notice that your concentration is a mess and you can’t meditate at all, that’s still mindfulness meditation. In a sense, it’s quite impossible not to meditate. Usually we are too occupied with stories running about. Instead of sticking onto our stories and plans, we can grab the present moment. Breathing is a good one. Trying to feel one’s face all the time also anchors you into the present moment. It is useful to take notice how your body is connected to your emotions. Pain in the neck produces crappy feelings etc. Stomach knoes better than the brain.

The destruction of my hometown lasted for two seconds.
"Thank you God, thank you, thank you for not existing."

>>19766998
Grad school
Becoming a forever student is the only way to cope with life for the maladjusted

I hope that tomorrow is the day something horrible happens and wipes me out in an instant

>>19767151
What did he mean by this?

Hold on Yoko
Yoko hold on

>>19766734
A lot of those "pick up" advice Youtube channels that used to be extremely popular completely died out around this time. The romantic notion you could learn some internal techniques to suddenly transcend all your other deficiencies and become a lady killer was sold by grifters and bought by the desperate and naive. 5 years later, watching those old channels back is bittersweet.
Good post overall though.

What an embarrassment

>>19766297
I think basically this
>>19766317
but that, generally speaking, sound joy and genuine love can form a part of a language God would use to try to convey to us now something of what to hope for. The language has to make sense to us now. Generally speaking my understanding is that creation is a language of symbols, including the afterlife, meant to convey who God is and a relationship to Him. Sex is obviously very meaningful. Pleasure is meaningful, since without anything to gain, on terms we understand, there could really be no morality, I think.

TL;DR: I don't think so, but I don't know, and it could make good sense to think of it in such terms, since the real terms are unknown and it's good to have an understanding. Though, a sound one. But clearly God made sex meaningful to us. Clearly God made romantic love meaningful.

God knows best.

>>19766381
keep us posted.

>>19766818
the question is how she would collect the pebble, and if it was supposed to smear or if she somehow dried it first. if it was supposed to smear, how did she handle the itch? rubbing shit into your panties can't qualify as a "pebble"

I wonder if the reason why I'm not close to my mother is because I learned early on that she doesn't really care (which I think is true, whether it is because she can't or simply doesn't (I think it's the former) and probably has to be a major part of the reason), or if it's because I just have always wanted to be left alone. I think my life so far can be summarized as "parry the normies and fuck off". People have always liked me, enough of them anyways. As my life has deteriorated I have begun thinking I need them in some ways, but I didn't really socialize much until I was at least 16. I did as a child, sort of, but over video-games, so not in a very personal manner. I definitely chose my friends based on their video-games (not only, but very significantly). I did not not socialize because I was an outcast. I was not. I just didn't want to. This became a problem when I got ill and found that no one knew or understood anything of my inner reality, and that I had no real way of communicating it. I don't think I'd ever had the inclination. This became a big problem. "Parry the normies and fuck off". Still going strong. Enough of them still want me. I still don't really know what they're supposed to do for me 98% of the time.

>>19767331
like, I think I've had a lot of behaviors that I've looked back upon as confusing and maladjusted, whereas now I think I was simply trying to convey to people, without my own even really understanding it, that I really didn't want them

Hefty void today
Limbo rain check on the soul
Random twinges, stray pulse
Tired of numb mouth persistence
Give me Freedom
Please God give me Freedom

>>19767331
>I just didn't want to.
I don't think I've ever been at ease with the idea of being known. I remember now not being at ease with people already at a very young age. I had one friend in kindergarten who I think was mostly a real friend, I looked up to him (but he did have sweet vidya too), but he moved away.

How come you forget to link them?

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>>19767295