/lit/ - Literature

>>19737239
Aristotle.
>where do I go after?
Aristotle.
>where do I finish
Also Aristotle, everyone else is a schizo playing pretend and inventing fantasy-fiction-tier bullshit. The only other philosopher's worth shit in Metaphysics are Thomas Aquinas (basically just Aristotle) and the also stotle influenced Ayn Rand, who love her or hate her, she solved Metaphysics.

>>19737239
i got you bro
read "jean grondin's introduction to metaphysics"

it's an amazing book, Grondin is incredible clear on his epxosition, and goes form the presocratics to modern day philosophers like Heidegger
it's one of the most complete introductions to metaphysics

>>19737239
Murakami

>>19737239
avoid rene guenon like the plague, he doesn't do metaphysics but an inferior sub category called ontotheology, that is trying to explain god(first cause) with a pseudo-metaphysical discourse full of paradoxes and logical contradictions

Go learn something useful or practical, metaphysics is just some schizo's headcanon or fanfiction about the universe, none of it matters since no one would reach those conclusions if they didn't read them in the same way no one would know the plot to some YA trash novel if its author didn't exist.

>>19737332
true, but knowing metaphyisics is useful if you want to learn more useful systems like hermeneutics, logic, or philosophy in general, since most modern schools of philosophy are a reactio to the metaphysical thinking

>>19737349
Not true, just because those fields were explored by the same dudes doesn't mean they are intertwined, you can disregard everything Aristotle had to say about metaphysics and be just fine logic wise, that's what the Muslims and Christians did anyway.

>>19737355
>that's what the Muslims and Christians did anyway.
that's just wrong, aristotle was one of the 3 sages of the muslim world and the lay scholastic in europe loved aristotle so much thomas aquina end up mixing christian theology with aritstotelea metaphysics to stop the literal battle between lay shcolastic and theologian priests

>>19737293
This. Grondin's an absolute authority on metaphysics. I had the chance of going to highschool with his son and met him a couple of times. Great teacher, pretty asshole dad ngl.
He doesn't understand Husserl at all tho. His "Hermeneutical turn of phenomenology" is fucking shameful.

>>19737239
Start with Aristotle, then go straight to Kant, then you will know to never touch metaphysics again.

>>19737303
> avoid rene guenon like the plague, he doesn't do metaphysics but an inferior sub category called ontotheology, that is trying to explain god(first cause) with a pseudo-metaphysical discourse full of paradoxes and logical contradictions

>>19737239
>>where do i start
With the greeks ofc
>>19738086
>the dissociation of metaphysics and ethics have been a disaster for the human race
Fuck Kant

>>19737276
>ayn rand solved metaphysics
i want to know what kind of life and childhood environment could create somebody so desperately lost as this anon

>>19737303
Metaphysics is the inferior subcategory of ontotheology though

>>19737239
Ok but what’s the difference between metaphysic and science?

>>19737276
You deserve to be publicly executed for even mention that vampiric bitch’s name.

>>19738171
> physics
> metaphysics
It's in the name.

>>19738171
As Schopenhauer says it, science can describe objects in nature. Metaphysics can describe the nature of things in nature

>>19737239
>anime

you can start by killing yourself

>>19737276
fairly palatable bait that remains plausible until the finisher, 7/10

>>19737239
the only thing you need

>>19737239
We agree she did nothing wrong, right?