/lit/ - Literature

>>19698689
what are you, a child?

>>19698706
Do you think only children can appreciate art?

>>19698716
No. But you didn't answer my question.

>>19698779
Yes, I am a 6 year old Japanese girl.

>>19698689
there are very few artists left in the world who can make good looking monochrome works that would look good coming off a book-tier printing and considering that most people don’t even expect illustrations in their novels anymore, it’s not worth the cost of commission.

Nonesuch is good

>>19699321
BADONGAS????

>>19699216
why did you make this literally untrue statement? there are a massive amount and undoubtedly more than there were in the olden days. literally scroll through artstation or twitter and you will find heaps. dumbass

>>19699357
Old = good didn’t you know.

>>19699357
>>19699378
the "old masters" are literally considered superior to modern artists tho lel, before industrialization an artist would spend his youth as a virtual slave to a master and then join a guild with strict standards enforced and it shows, artlets.

>>19699400
yes they would spend months on a single painting too. that’s irrelevant though this conveersation is about this statement
>there are very few artists left in the world who can make good looking monochrome works that would look good coming off a book-tier printing
which is just retarded

>>19699414
it is technically retarded but in practice it is correct in a limited way. a modern illustration, let alone digital one, would absolutely be soulless compared to genuine 19th century plates etc. unless the artist was a period autist and made them to perfect spec which we all know won't happen.

>>19699452
just wrong

>>19699452
Technically speaking many contemporary (commercial, mind you, not "fine" artists who are just frauds) artists are legitimately more skilled than the masters of the past. The problem isn't technical, the problem is that literally none of these artists, not even a single one of them, is concerned with art. If you look at the writings and dialogues with many of the great painters of the past, they were quite concerned with art itself, WHY am I making art. People like Ilya Repin made paintings because they were fascinated not just with shapes or forms but because they had a mission in life that they needed to achieve through art. This is how you get painters like Repin, who are masters of the craft not because they knew how to paint better than anyone else, but because they understood what it meant to make art. Nowadays you have absolutely astounding realist artists who can paint like Sargent but have absolutely no idea of what they're doing on a human, artistic, philosophical level. They just know how to execute a very good realist painting.

>>19698689
>that picture

Is this supposed to be an example of “well done art”? It looks like a sketch.

The Folio edition of Kafka on the Shore looks beautiful... I want it so bad anons...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnitUl4vOCU

>>19701213
>Literally $115

Anyone who buys this kind of shit will hang when the revolution finally comes

>>19701233
That's the minimum I spend on books a month

I don't like having illustrations unless they were done by the author/commissioned by them
It ruins the mental picture I have of the scenes

>>19701270
BOOKS, fine. But not BOOK.

>>19701283
It's a fair price for a nice edition of a book you will re-read multiple times and keep in good condition to hand down to future generations. Also nobody buys Folio Society books at full price

>>19698779
If you can’t see in his reply the obvious implicit answer to your question, you might be autistic (and retarded for making the question in the first place).

>>19699321
woah there buddy, this is a sfw board

>>19701274
>It ruins the mental picture I have of the scenes
exactly the problem

>>19699400
>the "old masters" are literally considered superior to modern artists tho lel, before industrialization an artist would spend his youth as a virtual slave to a master and then join a guild with strict standards enforced and it shows, artlets.
I live in Philadelphia.
The Philadelphia Museum of Art has a pretty good collection of Old Master paintings, but nowhere near as good as the collections in NYC at places like the Met.
If there is one truth from this collection in Philly, there are plenty of crappy old master paintings, some of which were allegedly painted by old masters who were well known by the general public, or which came from their studios.
And by “crappy”, I mean poorly painted, and lacking in skill.

>>19701233
just so you know I dropped nine hunnerd on their Gargantua & Pantagruel edition

only illustrations I've enjoyed so far are the ones by Doré.
Makes the experience much nicer. I've read the divine comedy, the bible and orlando furioso in editions with his illustrations and they are all amazing.
A truly /lit/ artist.

>>19702346
Where do I find an Orlando Furioso copy with his illustrations?

>>19702349
no idea, mate.
My edition is an italian one from the end of 1890. It has LOTS of illustrations, but at least half of them aren't full page. It's the only book that I've seen with small illustrations by doré.

>>19702371
Brooo I went to Italy not too long ago looking for an edition like that to take back with me and found nothing. Got a pic so I know what to look for?

>>19702389
pics are ass, sorry, very tired, going to bed now.
good luck friend.

>>19702429
>>19702389
publisher: fratelli treves editori, from milan.
it's a big book, much bigger than the usual hardcover books (eg leatherbounds from barnes and noble)

>>19702429
>>19702439
FUCK I was in Milan and Florence and couldn't find any editions like that. Amazon has a collection of the Orlando Furioso ones but without the poetry. Guess Ill cope with that.

>>19702475
i found it out of pure luck. I'm south american and found it at a second hand bookstore for the equivalent of 20 american bucks

>>19702493
Nice find anon, hopefully Ill find one myself. Thanks for showing that to me.

>>19701233
Your revolution is a sad, ill-wrought fantasy that will never come into being. Have fun remaining useful to the people you despise regardless.