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19689357 No.19689357 [Reply] [Original]

Fitzgerald wrote his famous incel novel "The Great Gatsby" after being dumped for having a micropenis:
(conversation between Fitzgerald and Hemingway)
"Finally when we were eating the cherry tart and had a last carafe of wine he said, 'You know I never slept with anyone except Zelda.'

'No, I didn't.'

'I thought I'd told you.'

'No. You told me a lot of things but not that.'

'That is what I want to ask you about.'

'Good. Go on.'

'Zelda said that the way I was built I could never make any woman happy and that was what upset her originally. [This conversation was held somewhat after what Hemingway describes as "what was then called her first nervous breakdown."] She said it was a matter of measurements. I have never felt the same since she said that and I have to know truly.'

>> No.19689405
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Not a fan of Fitzgerald but that butter face has no right to be picky. I was expecting her to be a model, but no, she's got an ugly face and she's lucky a man like Mr Fitzgerald would even think about it. Whore should know her place.

>> No.19689415

I just recently found out GG Allin had a micropenis lol, maybe OP does too

>> No.19690295

>>19689357
you missed the very next sentence where they go into the bathroom to compare

>> No.19690336

>>19690295
>you missed the very next sentence where they go into the bathroom to compare
Kek. Is this real?

>> No.19690358

>>19689357
Based micropenised individual making something for himself.

>> No.19690375

>>19689357
>>19689405
>>19689415
>>19690295
I never got why women love talking about penis size and how they won't be satisfied and then, often, settle for a lesbian partner that (the obvious be said) has no cock AT ALL, and then it seemly it's perfectly fine and they're "completelly satiated by another vagina" [sic]. And they have no problem AT ALL with this fact, suddenly.
Can somebody explain it to me??

>> No.19690391

>>19690375
It's about status

>> No.19690400

>>19689357
Didn't Bruce Lee and Hitler only have one testicle?

>> No.19690538

>>19690391
>It's about status
Power, no doubt. But status??
I don't get it.

>> No.19690588
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>>19689415
I miss him.

>> No.19690602

>>19689357
You're stupid.

>> No.19690631

>>19689405
>ugly
>extremely wealthy
uggos should be aborted post-birth with a shovel and the money distributed to attractive people. it's dysgenic to let uggos possess wealth.

>> No.19690650

>>19690631
You can't always tell that early. I was an extremely cute kid but puberty fucked my shit up and I never recovered. You'd have to at least wait until early teens to decide whether they deserve to live or not.

>> No.19690779

>>19690538
Power is a quantitative value.
Status is qualitative.
Women value the qualitative over quantitative because they are socially motivated.

It's not about the micro penis measured quantitatively. It's about her, the kind of women who deserves a big penis alpha man, and her qualitative value.

>> No.19691255

>>19690650
so long as you agree we can crush their skulls

>> No.19692148

>>19690650
>You can't always tell that early. I was an extremely cute kid but puberty fucked my shit up and I never recovered. You'd have to at least wait until early teens to decide whether they deserve to live or not.
Enlightened. Kek

>> No.19692161

>>19689357
hung like a cashew

>> No.19692993

>>19689357
>'come out to the office,' i said.
>'where is the office?'
>'le water,' i said.
>we came back into the room and sat down at the table.
>'you're perfectly fine,' i said. 'you are ok. there's nothing wrong with you. you look at yourself from above and you look foreshortened. go over to the louvre and look at the people in the statues and then go home and look at yourself in the mirror in profile.'
>'those statues may not be accurate.'
>'they are pretty good. most people would settle for them.'
>'but why would she say it?'
>'to put you out of business. that's the oldest way in the world of putting people out of business. scott, you asked me to tell you the truth and i can tell you a lot more but this is the absolute truth and all you need. you could have gone to see a doctor.'
>'i didn't want to. i wanted you to tell me truly.'
>'now do you believe me?'
>'i don't know,' he said.
>'come on over to the louvre,' i said, 'it's just down the street and across the river.'
>we went over to the louvre and he looked at the statues but still be was doubtful about himself.
>'it is not basically a question of the size in repose,' i said. 'it is the size that it becomes. it is also a question of angle.' i explained to him about using a pillow and a few other things that might be useful for him to know.

>> No.19693027

>>19689357
Fuck you OP. You intentionally left out the very next paragraph where Hemingway examines him and says that he is perfectly adequate and that Zelda is only attempting to manipulate him.
You're not the only one who read A Moveable Feast.

>> No.19693072

>>19693027
nigga he is absolutely not adequate. hemingway is trying to make him feel better by having him compare himself to greek statues without mentioning that greek aesthetics valued miniscule penises. if he's hung like michelangelo's david then he does in fact have a tiny penis.

>> No.19693083

>>19693072
Reminder to automatically discard anyone who begins their post by using street slang to refer to another anon.

>> No.19693091

>>19690779
Wrong

>> No.19693097

>>19690336
According to hemmingway. It's in A Moveable Feast. After the bathroom they go to the Louvre to look at statues.

>> No.19693206

>>19693083
you're so clueless you came here to correct op about the meaning of a scene when you completely missed the point of it yourself. you didn't get the joke because you didn't start with the greeks and now you're trying to weasel out of it. shameful shit my nigga

>> No.19693309

>>19689405
People who annotate photographs of couples with two lines, one vertical, the other slanted, would love this.

>> No.19693325

>>19693309
Fuck off

>> No.19693348

>>19693097
>After the bathroom they go to the Louvre to look at statues.
And it only gets better. Kek

>> No.19693357

>>19689415
Did he have a micropenis? I think he was just a grower who's flaccid penis shrunk with adrenaline (mine becomes a peanut in a mosh)

>> No.19693366

>>19690375
My (girl) mate thinks it comes from projected insecurity.
She says her girlfriends chat a lot about big dicks that they don't even enjoy, and they feel weird talking about average or smaller guys who they enjoy a lot more.
Obviously genuine preferences exist, but women have issues too and sometimes that leads to, yknow, weird penis talk.

>> No.19693379

Fitzgerald having a micropenis is a myth btw

>> No.19694026

>>19690336
Hemingway lied a lot in "Moveable Feast". Some of his fellows from the Paris times were surprised to find out he wrote about stuff that never happened. The old man was trying to keep his manliness up and paint a pretty picture, I doubt this conversation ever really took place. Honestly, from the way Hemingway referred to Fitzgerald I think he was partly jealous of his talent, because he always tried to look like he was a more experienced writer and have Scott advice he didn't ask for. I think Hem was trying to play into that in the penis comparison scene

>> No.19694078

>>19690375
>thinking lesbos are satisfied

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>>19692993
Damn Hem is a real nigga for this, what a bro

>> No.19694352

>>19693366
Like any drug trip it's all about set and setting. Sex enjoyment is drugs after all. I have the unique life experience to directly compare myself to porn stars because I've fucked a few girls who have done porn. Obviously the conditions of a porn shoot are not the ideal setting for most girls. All of the girls noticeably enjoyed themselves more fucking me than on the set because of the intimacy of the setting, the natural positions that did not need to be accomodating of the camera's lens, and the strength of our rapport rather than being total transactional strangers.

By far and away the single biggest sex tip to increase enjoyment for the girl: express YOUR enjoyment. You think there is an epidemic of dead fish pillow princesses? It is nothing compared to the untold masses of souless, silent, mechanical automatons who's stoic stonefaced mask is beyond unnerving. Men conditioned by porn addiction and masturbation carry their discretion conditioning into the bedroom and behave like robots. Tell her exactly how good she is making you feel and don't suppress your own vocalizations. She finds your moaning just as hot as you do hers, but she's never even heard a guy moan, only pant like a dog.

>> No.19694368

>>19694078
>thinking anyone is satisfied

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>>19689357
>'Zelda said that the way I was built I could never make any woman happy and that was what upset her originally. [This conversation was held somewhat after what Hemingway describes as "what was then called her first nervous breakdown."] She said it was a matter of measurements. I have never felt the same since she said that and I have to know truly.'

Zelda went crazt because fitzgeralds dick was awful