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WHY DO PEOPLE PRAISE THIS YA TRASH?

>> No.19658186

>>19658176
It's entertaining. Also it was ghost written by Macquet.

>> No.19658191

>>19658176
They get to pretend they are reading serious lit

>> No.19658196

>>19658176
It's a long, old book, which makes people think it is real literature.

>> No.19658288

>>19658176
They named a great sandwich after it.

>> No.19658299

>>19658176
Americans call it money creesso or some shit lmao

>> No.19658373

>>19658176
It's good

>> No.19658392

Its a good book.
>young adult
It is definitely genre fiction, doesnt mean it isnt a good book. Only pretentious wankers care about what others opinions on books they like.

>> No.19658789

>>19658176
It foreshadowed the victory of the orientals over the western people

>> No.19658817

>>19658186
T. Macquet

>> No.19658864

>>19658299
Kek

>> No.19658887

>>19658176
It's a genuinely great book with strong themes and a satisfying conclusion.

>> No.19658909

It's YA?! I was intimidated by it being over 1,000 pages but if it's YA then it means I could read it in a week or less?

>> No.19658920

>>19658909
yes, that’s why a lot of girl are into this

>> No.19658922

>>19658176
Because the author was BLACK. No but really, it's just a book made for basic entertainment so all the pseuds (you) feel a need to seethe.

>>19658789
Kek.

>> No.19658931

>>19658922
>Because the author was BLACK.
Not in France. He was seen as mixed.

>> No.19658939

>>19658920
I assumed they just read the abridged version or some "modern translation"

>> No.19658956

I guess it is kind of like 19th century YA, complete with older roasty getting toasty, getting the nice pristine med pussy and eunuch slave that basically couldnt be in modern YA

>> No.19658965

Why did he let Danglar off so easy when he was the worst offender while Villefort suffered so much for being mostly motivated just by self-preservation? Extremely based book btw.

>> No.19658982

>>19658931
Yes, and he was routinely called a monkey by other authors.

>> No.19658988

>>19658982
Makes no difference.

>> No.19659003

>>19658176
It's a long, but incredibly entertaining story. You're not reading this for some kind of breakthrough insights into life you're reading it to be entertained. Were you not entertained?

>> No.19659173

>>19658299
Ameribros...

>> No.19659217

>>19658887
The themes and conclusion are easily the worst part

>> No.19659233

>>19659217
How miserable your life must be if you honestly think this lowly about the book. I hope someday you can find joy in anything.

>> No.19659351

>>19659233
You type like a faggot. You're not above anyone, scum.

>> No.19659375

>>19659003
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

>> No.19659388

>>19659351
Gee, Anon. I hope you don't bring this angry, sad attitude with you into the New Year!

>> No.19659395

>>19659375
This guy gets it.

>> No.19659456

>>19658965
I always found myself thinking that Danglar's punishment was very characteristic for the character due to the nature of the betrayal he committed, but it was nothing compared to the other two, he should have managed to turn Danglar into a beggar or something.
>Extremely based book btw
The way he just end being rich and with sweet greek puss

>> No.19659489

>>19659003
>incredibly entertaining story
how? the paris shit drags on and on.

>> No.19659516
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19659516

BTFOd by the weeb version

>> No.19659578

>>19658176
watch gankutsuou
>Verification not required

>> No.19659711

>fernand asks the count who he is
>instead of answering, he jumps out of the room, changes clothes, then reappears
literal anime character and dare I say it the original sigma male

>> No.19660474

>>19659711
I personally liked that one the most, as well as the Caderousse act and how he spied on him to see if he changed his ways.

>> No.19660643

>>19658176
Because it's the greatest novel ever written, you spunkoloid.

>>19658186
Maquet didn't do shit, he was an adviser on historical accuracy for the historical novels.

>There seems to radiate from you a still persistent energy and enjoyment; in that current of strength not only your characters live, frolic, kindly, and sane, but even your very collaborators were animated by the virtue which went out of you. How else can we explain it, the dreary charge which feeble and envious tongues have brought against you, in England and at home? They say you employed in your novels and dramas that vicarious aid which, in the slang of the studio, the 'sculptor's ghost' is fabled to afford.

>Well, let it be so; these ghosts, when uninspired by you, were faint and impotent as 'the strengthless tribes of the dead' in Homer's Hades, before Odysseus had poured forth the blood that gave them a momentary valour. It was from you and your inexhaustible vitality that these collaborating spectres drew what life they possessed; and when they parted from you they shuddered back into their nothingness. Where are the plays, where the romances which Maquet and the rest wrote in their own strength? They are forgotten with last year's snows; they have passed into the wide waste-paper basket of the world.

>> No.19660658

>>19658965
He meant to do Danglars the worst, by starving him to death in poverty the way Danglars had let his dad starve. But due to feeling that he went too far with Villefort (specifically: causing the death of the little kid, who is easily the most deserving of the victims, a horrible little shit, but Dantès doesn't see it that way), he lets Danglars off the hook. The count feels sick with himself and needs to show mercy to redeem what he sees as a crime.

>> No.19660698

Never read this book but saw the movie when I was very young. Does the priest say anything profound when teaching Dantes? I always remember that being the best part of the movie for me.

>> No.19660737

>>19660474
For such a massive book, bringing Caderousse back at the end was the one single thing I felt was kinda unnecessary plot clutter. I don't think he needed to die such a miserable death and could've just been left with his little reward at the inn and end his story there.

>> No.19660811
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19660811

>>19658176

Its fun. The intelligentsia and Dumas himself were well aware it was comfort food, and no one was a fag about it.

>> No.19661547

>>19660737
>at the end
Caderousse dies almost exactly at the halfway point of the novel. If you were huge into overinterpreting structure you could see that chapter of the crux of the novel, as it is not only situated in the middle of the book but happens to summarize its themes.

>> No.19661552

>>19661547
>see that chapter of
*see that chapter as

>> No.19662684

>>19661547
oh damn, it felt quite close to the end from memory
I guess one thing it did was make you consider the scope of how much was planned vs how much was coincidence

>> No.19662890

It's a very satisfying revenge story. My favorite part when reading it is always when he is in prison with Abbe Faria

>> No.19662910

For me it's when Dantes visits the Morrel family and saves them from bankruptcy and then when he visits them again to save Morrel jr. from suicide and has to reveal himself.

>> No.19662935

>>19662910
the morrels along with valentine and old man noirtier were the cutest purest thing

>> No.19663287

>>19660737
>I don't think he needed to die such a miserable death and could've just been left with his little reward at the inn
This is literally the whole point. He could have remained satisfied with his reward, but he doesn't. Greed and weakness turn him ever more evil. He starts out the novel being merely a bit naive and overly ready to drink; he's horrified by the crime he's implicated in. By the time he dies, he's spent a decade plunging his hands in crime to the elbows and is completely hardened, and it was all unnecessary. He's the author of his own evil fate.

>> No.19663305

>>19658176
>YA
it's an adventure novel

>> No.19664703

>>19660698
The movie is very different from the book because it's necessarily extremely abridged. The part from Dantes getting thrown in prison up to his discovery of the treasure is widely regarded as the best-written section of the book, though.

>> No.19665461

>>19662910
kino

>> No.19665468

>>19664703
everything with Abbe Faria is pure unfiltered kino