/lit/ - Literature

>>19604602
I can't say that I have read everything but my favorite was Das Marmorbild, Joseph von Eichendorff

>>19604602
the greatest of them all coming through. a*glos will never be able to appreciate him fully

Over the house of Capulet and Montague,
Moved by thunder, rinsed by rain,
The gentle eye of heaven blue –

Looks upon the ruins of the hostile forts,
Over shattered garden gates,
And hurls a star from on high –

This tear is for Juliet, every cypress says,
And for Romeo – from beyond our planet
It falls and soaks the graves,

While people say, and they’re men of learning:
These are not tears but stones,
And – for them . . . no one is waiting!

>>19604656
>Norwid
Extremely patrician. In fact a short film was made this year in order to get him more well known.
>https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/award-winning-quay-brothers-create-norwid-film-to-promote-poets-work-to-foreign-audiences-21198

>>19604602
Romanticism reached its summit in the Polish language.

>>19604656
tak jest panie

>>19604684
He may seem patrician and obscure to Westerners but in Poland he's normie-tier. This year we celebrated 200th anniversary of his birth. I tried to make /lit/ interested in his poetry but to no avail. That poem titled "In Verona" was my personal favorite when I was a kid, here's a beautiful musical interpretation of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsuRbAKgtF4&ab_channel=ADZGB
And here's another one

1
What have you done to Athens, Socrates,
That people gave you a golden statue,
Poisoning you first? . . .
What have you done to Italy, Alighieri,
That two graves were dug for you by hypocrites,
Banishing you first? . . .
What have you done to Europe, oh, Columbus,
That she dug three graves for you in three places,
Shackling you first? . . .
What have you done to your people, Camões,
That grave diggers disturbed your grave twice,
Starving you first? . . .
What crimes, Kościuszko, did you commit ’gainst the world,
That it tramps upon your tombstones in two different places,
Rendering you homeless first? . . .
What have you, Napoléon, done to the world,
That they locked you in two tombs upon your death,
Locking you up first? . . .
What have you, Mickiewicz, done to your people? . . .
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2
The kind of urn counts little, where you’re laid to rest,
Where? when? with what visage, in what sense?
For they’ll open your grave a second time,
Proclaim your merits in a different way,
Ashamed today of tears shed yesterday;
Those not seeing the human in you
Will now shed tears to the power of two . . .
3
Each one, like you, the world cannot
Admit right away to a peaceful plot
Nor, old as it is, did it ever,
For clay unto clay seeps unceasing,
While opposing bodies are nailed together
Later . . . or sooner . . .
I wrote this in Paris in January 1856.

>>19604735
The Three Bards are genuinely some of the greatest authors of all time. They have evolved beyond their movement to become timeless.

>>19604748
>He may seem patrician and obscure to Westerners but in Poland he's normie-tier
That may be so but it doesn't make him any less patrician. Keats and Coleridge are normie-tier but that doesn't make them any less masters

>>19604781
Speaking of Coleridge - are you Polish by chance? Last year PWN published a translation of Coleridge's Biographia Literaria, his most famous philosophical work

>>19604831
>are you Polish by chance?
I am not. I just have a great affinity for Polish literature.
>PWN published a translation of Coleridge's Biographia Literaria, his most famous philosophical work
Nice. Will check it out

>>19604633
Eichendorff is very good. If you like him, you should try out Achim von Arnim

>>19604602
Where do i start?

>>19606597
Goethe, Keats, Pushkin, Baudelaire, and Poe are five great poets from Germany, England, Russia, France, and America respectively. They are widely considered to be among the greats of literature and I believe my five choices encompass a lot of what Romanticism has to offer.

>>19606869
>Baudelaire
>romanticism
??
you're thinking Hugo or Lamartine

>>19606878
Ignore Baudelaire. Mental error

>>19604602
>As Wagner argued at length in Oper und Drama, the virtue of Stabreim is its ability to establish through phonology associations or antitheses between particular words and concepts. (Stabreim entails a use of language akin to music in so far as it allows the word to derive meaning from its place in a phonetic pattern rather as the musical note derives meaning from its place in a tonic pattern.) It is a verse form which, in Wagner's hands, demands that particular attention be paid not only to each word but also to each root-syllable.

>When Brunnhilde argues with her master in Die Walküre II.ii, Wotan makes an angry attempt to silence her:

>Was bist du, als meines Willens
>blind wählende Kür?—

>The phrasing and rhetoric of Wotan's question echo Brunnhilde's earlier plea:

>wer—bin ich,
>wär'ich dein Wille nicht?

>>19607003
>Weia! Waga! Woge, du Welle, walle zur Wiege! Wagalaweia! Wallala weiala weia!

>In his open letter to Friedrich Nietzsche of 12 June 1872 Wagner explained that Woglinde’s opening gambit is based on OHG heilawâc ( = water drawn from a river or well at some divinely appointed hour), recast by analogy with the eia popeia ( = hushabye) of children’s nursery rhymes.
>In conversation with Cosima, Wagner described this passage as ‘the world’s lullaby’ (CT, 17 July 1869), a reading already suggested by Opera and Drama, where the composer imputes the birth of language to a melodic vocalization.

>>19604602
Lads, I'm a pleb and have only (bought not read) Blake, whomst should I read of the Romantics? I'm interested in Byron due to his influence on the continent, but honestly have few other preferences.

In fact looking at the OP's pic I've also read Hugo's Les miserables.

>>19607199
Keats is good for beginners of poetry.

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>>19604770

What do you raise an outcry over, national bards?
Why do you threaten Russia with Anathema?
What stirred you up? The throes of Lithuania?
Desist: this is a strife of Slavs among themselves,
An old domestic strife, already weighed by fate,
An issue not to be resolved by you.

Long since among themselves
These tribes have been at war;
More than once has bent beneath the storm
Now their, now our side.

Who will prevail in the unequal strife:
The boastful Lekh, or the faithful Ross?
Will the Slavonic streams converge in the Russian sea?
Will it dry up? Here is the question.

Leave us alone: you have not read
Those bloody tablets;
To you is unintelligible, you is alien
This family feud;
Mute to you are the Kremlin and Praga;
Unthinkingly you are beguiled
By the valor of a desperate struggle -
And you hate us . . .

And for what? Reply: is it because
On the ruins of blazing Moscow
We did not acknowledge the insolent will
Of him under whom you quaked?
Because we hurled into the abyss
The idol heavy-looming over kingdoms,
And with our blood redeemed
Europe's freedom, honour, and peace?

You are menacing in words - just try to be in action!
Is then the old thane, resting on his bed,
Unfit to mount his bayonet is Ismail?
Or is the Russian Tsar's word powerless by now?
Or is it new to us to be at odds with Europe?
Or has the Russian grown unused to victories?
Are there too few of us? Or will, from Perm to Tauris,
From frigid crags of Finland to the flaming Colchis,
From the shaken Kremlin
To stagnant China's walls,
Flashing with steely bristle,
Not rise the Russian land?
Send then to us, oh, bards,
Your sons enraged:
There's room for them in Russia's fields,
'Mid graves that are not strange to them.

>romanticism
>ossian unmentioned
As usual it has failed to cover the basics

I FEEL LIKE WHEN I POST IN A THREAD IT SUDDENLY DIES . . . LIKE YOU CAN ALL SEE WHO I AM AND WHEN I POST YOU ALL DECIDE TO LEAVE

Where to start with the romantics poets for someone who has minimal poetry reading experience? I've only read The Divine Comedy (I know it's more of an epic poem) and the poem in Pale fire).

>>19608043
Ossian

>>19608043
probably an anthology of romantic poets, preferably English, and then buying selected or completed poetry editions of poets you particularly enjoyed.

>>19608288
Once you have discovered a poet you like you then search for and ask others for similar poets.

>>19608043
>>19607199
see>>19606869
Ignore Baudelaire as, although he is great, doesn't count as romantic