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Not people who necessarily further built upon him.

Preferably Germans.

>> No.19596089

>>19596072
Thomas Bernhard made the only comment you need:

> I always visualize him sitting on his wooden bench outside his Black Forest house, alongside his wife who, with her perverse knitting enthusiasm, ceaselessly knits winter socks for him from the wool she has shorn from their own Heidegger sheep.

> I cannot visualize Heidegger other than sitting on the bench outside his Black Forest house, alongside his wife, who all her life totally dominated him and who knitted all his socks and crocheted all his caps and baked all his bread and wove all his bedlinen and who even cobbled up his sandals for him. Heidegger was a kitschy brain….. a feeble thinker from the Alpine foothills, as I believe, and just about right for the German philosophical hot-pot. For decades they ravenously spooned up that man Heidegger, more than anybody else, and overloaded their stomachs with his stuff. Heidegger had a common face, not a spiritual one, Reger said, he was through and through an unspiritual person, devoid of all fantasy, devoid of all sensibility, a genuine German philosophical ruminant, a ceaselessly gravid German philosophical cow, Reger said, which grazed upon German philosophy and thereupon for decades let its smart little cow-pats drop on it….

> Heidegger is the petit-bourgeois of German philosophy, the man who has placed on German philosophy his kitschy nightcaps, that kitschy black night-cap which Heidegger always wore, on all occasions. Heidegger is the carpet-slipper and night-cap philosopher of the Germans, nothing else.

>> No.19596092

>>19596089
ebin lmao xd
you forgot your hilarious man eating ice cream picture though.

>> No.19596103
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>>19596092
Are you wearing your nightcap right now?

>> No.19596105
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>>19596103
you should spend less time on the internet.

>> No.19596125

>>19596105
You're right, but I feel like that is irrelevant to Heidegger

>> No.19596166

>>19596125
not if you take into account that your cringe posting is ruining my Heidegger thread.

>> No.19596170

"War and War" and "Wittgenstein’s Mistress" are two very good novels that relate in part to Heidegger’s philosophy.
Ernst Jünger, though he is the sort of writer who does not use footnotes and seldom explicitly references other writers, I think deals with similar themes as Heidegger, specifically in The Forest Passage: Time, technology, angst.

>> No.19596175

>>19596166
Fair enough, but you could look at it as a fancy bump.

>> No.19596183

>>19596170
>"War and War" and "Wittgenstein’s Mistress"
These seem like interesting text on their own, but the summaries and reviews do not really hint at a significant Heidegger connection.
Thanks though. I'll take your word on it.

>> No.19596202

Jean Greisch and Marlène Zarader

>> No.19596204

>>19596072
Greg Johnson

>> No.19596207

>>19596072
George Steiner

>> No.19596209

>>19596072
A commentary on this goblin's plagiarism

>According to Tomonobu Imamichi, Heidegger's concept of Dasein in Sein und Zeit was inspired – although Heidegger remained silent on this – by Okakura Kakuzō's concept of das-in-der-Welt-sein (being-in-the-worldness) expressed in The Book of Tea to describe Zhuangzi's philosophy, which Imamichi's professor Ito Kichinosuke had offered to Heidegger in 1919, after having followed private lessons with him the year before:[3]

>Ito Kichinosuke, one of my teachers at university, studied in Germany in 1918 immediately after the First World War and hired Heidegger as a private tutor. Before moving back to Japan at the end of his studies, Professor Ito handed Heidegger a copy of Das Buch vom Tee, the German translation of Okakura Kakuzo’s The Book of Tea, as a token of his appreciation. That was in 1919. Sein und Zeit (Being and Time) was published in 1927 and made Heidegger famous. Mr. Ito was surprised and indignant that Heidegger used Zhuangzi’s concept without giving him credit. Years later in 1945, Professor Ito reminisced with me and, speaking in his Shonai dialect, said, ‘Heidegger did a lot for me, but I should’ve laid into him for stealing’. There are other indications that Heidegger was inspired by Eastern writings, but let’s leave this topic here. I have heard many stories of this kind from Professor Ito and checked their veracity. I recounted this story at a reception held after a series of lectures I gave in 1968 at the University of Heidelberg at the invitation of Hans-Georg Gadamer. Japanese exchange students attended these lectures, and I explained that there were many other elements of classical Eastern thought in Heidegger’s philosophy and gave some examples. I must have said too much and may even have said that Heidegger was a plagiarist (Plagiator). Gadamer was Heidegger’s favorite student, and we ended up not speaking to each other for 4 or 5 years because he was so angry with me.[4][5]

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/hat general/

>Franz von Lenbach, the reigning portraitist of Wilhelmine Germany, fashioned what became a more or less official image: head in profile, eyes fixed in the distance, nose and chin cutting into gray space, a large beret leaning to the side. The Rembrandtesque contrast of light and shadow, which also appears in Lenbach’s portraits of the German Kaisers, the Austrian emperor Franz Joseph, and Bismarck, creates an Old Master ambience. As the Wagner scholar John Deathridge has observed, the donning of a beret itself has a political slant. Martin Luther wears one in a portrait from the workshop of Cranach the Elder, as does the real-life Hans Sachs in a sixteenth-century engraving. During the Napoleonic Wars, German freethinkers took to wearing berets as an expression of national identity. Wagner took up the trend around 1867, just as he was falling in line with the drive toward unification. He was consciously assuming a symbolic role.

>> No.19596321

>>19596209
Yes, Heidegger found inspirational words in eastern philosophy, but assuming the writings of a hegelian educated like Heidegger are the same as your chink adages you are beyond retarded.

>> No.19596326

>>19596072
Gianni Vattimo

>> No.19596476

>>19596209
why are germans such hacks?

>> No.19596917

b

>> No.19596931

>>19596321
>Heidegger found inspirational words in eastern philosophy
The problem is that hack never admitted the obvious Eastern influence.

>> No.19597227

>>19596072
Reiner Schürmann

>> No.19597344

>>19596931
Coping Chang/tradcuck

>> No.19597386

>>19596072
Heidegger was a careerist hack who stole every single insight he had.

>> No.19597513

>>19597344
seethe midwit

>> No.19597525

>>19596170
>>19596183
War & War is very Heideggerian. Laszlo K is generally Heideggerian

>> No.19597544

>>19596072
Panajiotis Kondylis

>> No.19597746

>>19596209

The Book of Tea is not a serious work of philosophy. Even if Heidegger nicked the ideas from it, the arguments for the ideas are his own.

>> No.19598145

>>19597746
>>The Book of Tea is not a serious work of philosophy.
this. anyone who has read it knows that any "plagiarism" claims are absolutely laughable.

>> No.19599015 [DELETED] 

>>19596072
Try Beaufret's "Dialogues with Hiedegger". He was a frenchie and Heidegger's good friend. Heidegger said that Beaufret has an accurate representation of his philosophy. Didn't read either Heidegger or Beaufret tho.

>> No.19599047

What's the best introduction to Heidegger?

>> No.19600329

>>19596242
Based

>> No.19600750

>>19598145
This. Is it even plagiarism if the only thing nicked is a phrase? They don't mean the same thing to their respective authors.

>> No.19601155

>>19596326
Hey i know him

>> No.19601560

>>19596089
How can one man seethe so hard?

>> No.19601566

>>19596209
Wow.
It's almost like thinkers are influenced by other thinkers.
Golly. Who woulda thunk?

>> No.19601675

>>19596170
Ernst had a brother than also wrote anti-tech eco-fascist books. It wasn't Hediegger exclusively.

>> No.19601681

>>19596209
Actually Gadamer and Heidegger had a rift after Gadamer's dad asked Heiddy if Gadamer should be a philosopher and Heidegger said "no". That is when Gadamer went into philology,

>> No.19601682

>>19596089
>waaaah! waaaaah! Life is bad! waaaaah!
Thanks Thomas Bernhard, very cool, I can tell you are quite the artisté by your suffering. Ah Mr. Bernhard, I see you like Schopenhaur too, very original, and gives even more credibility to your artisté status.

>> No.19601685

>>19601681
When was this?

>> No.19601696

>>19601685
Late 20s.

>> No.19601776

>>19601682
thats pretty much why i cant read him
t. austrian

>> No.19601802

>>19601696
So at the start of his career. They seem to have been fine friends not long after this rift.

>> No.19601844

>>19601776
>>19601682
I strangely have the opposite effect when i read his works (i live in a 3rd world country). His bleak look gives me hope and keeps me going for some reason. I don't know how or why. Any theories?

>> No.19601854

>>19596072
He's not German, but Bowden was famous for being able to explain Heidegger to anyone, even a gang of skinheads in the back room of a pub.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inAsncgqUo4&t=13s