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The great debate

>> No.19595391

>>19595375
I have over 10k ebooks from CUP, OUP, Harvard, Chicago, Yale, Princeton, Uni of Cali, and various academic presses including a huge collection of popular fiction.

It's not possible to own or carry all of those books.

I prefer to read paper books.

>> No.19595400
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19595400

>I WANT REDUCED RETENTION WITH A LIGHT CONSTANTLY SHINING RIGHT INTO MY FACE AND WITH ON AMAZON KEK STAMP RIGHT ON THE BACK
>ONLY CONSOOMERS BUY BOOKS LOOL

>> No.19595406

>>19595375
Lower retention level vs higher retention level. There is no debate.

>> No.19595459

>>19595375
If you can't touch it, you don't own it. How many people have gotten fucked over by buying digital rights from companies that no longer exist

>> No.19595471

>>19595459

>Buying

Are you fucking retarded? Also, I buy the books, but read them mostly on my Kobo that I've downloaded for free. One of my dreams as a kid was having a nice library. I carry a book if I'm going somewhere where I could lose the Kobo though. Like, camping or out of state.

>> No.19595476

>>19595375
Paperback. Hate hardcover and adding more screen time to one's life seems really unnecessary. If money/space is tight, i'd be more favourable toward an e-reader. But that's it.

>> No.19595512

>>19595375
I only like reading digital. I remember liking paper back but digital is just a swipe of the finger, no weird paper feel or heaviness. Can have 5 books opened. It's just more efficient and i go ham on reading

>> No.19595513

>>19595375
For me it's physical.I pirate everything because regardless of the format of a movie or game, the experience is exactly the same one, but holding a books and holding a tablet like device isn't the same.

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>>19595375
I can't be arsed carrying books with me on the buses when i'm going to and from the work, but prefer them when i'm in a comfortable position at your home

>> No.19595643

>>19595375
I prefer physical, but ebooks are just so easy to read anywhere, even with poor lighting it's worth it as a back up.

>tfw up until last year I was hard against reading books on an e-reader.

>> No.19595684

I liked the fact that I could "preview" books on e-reader, but it seemed too easy to give up on book if my mood deemed it "boring".
Also many titles were less expensive as ebook but the price diff seems closer these days (maybe excepting academic titles).
Now I prefer paper. It's just an instinct choice for now.
Oh and many small press are paper only.

>> No.19595824

>>19595375
I bought my kindle 1year ago and haven't finish more than 3 books using it, I think I only used it while travelling.

>> No.19595838

>>19595400
>>19595406
>retention
You realize YOU are the problem and not the format, right?

>> No.19595845

>>19595459
>If you can't touch it, you don't own it.
Exactly what I say every time I """"""""""pirate""""""" LITERALLY WORDS from fat greasy pig publishers in digital electronic e-format. Kike niggers don't own the text in order to demand money for i!

>> No.19595878

>>19595400
The light HELPS, retard. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to see shit while on my back. I have been reading physical books again lately however, because I missed them after buying my Kindle in 2019.

>> No.19595880

>>19595838
No, this has been proven. It's about screen vs physical paper.

>> No.19595942

My kobo is one of my favorite possessions. I mainly enjoy it for the free books. It's lightweight and comfortable to hold in any position, and I enjoy the option to use a backlight (was a lifesaver during a long power outage). I also like the built in dictionary that allows me to pull up a definition easily if I'm unfamiliar with a word. The only issue I have is that some pirated books seem to be lazy OCR conversions, and some files are corrupted and I don't realize until halfway through a book.
>>19595880
Do you have a link? I don't see how the non backlit screen is much different.

>> No.19595949

>>19595375
I use custom dictionaries and encyclopedias way too much on my Kindle to go back to paper books. Physical books will NEVER compete with highlighting a word and getting instant lookups in my 8 dictionaries and offline wikipedia.

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>>19595375
step aside

>> No.19595971

>>19595969
>not using send to Kindle and using your ereader at home and your pirated books on the Kindle app when on the go
Also very nice digits.

>> No.19595993

>>19595375
>tried and true medium of conveying information for thousands of years
OR
>goes blind from blue light
>immediately forgets what you just read
"oof, YIKES! Not a lot of women of color in your collection, Amazon has forwarded your details to the FBI"
>all books were lost during a solar glare
Gee, hard choice.

>> No.19596025

>>19595993
>tried and true method of traveling on horseback
OR
>engine malfunctions
>crash into lampost and die
the future is now, old man. I can't see how you can justify using an internet connection for 4chan if you fear some progressive jewish boogeyman coming after you. There are options aside from Amazon, and even the Amazon products work without internet.

>> No.19596045

All you who complain about blue light are idiots. It's low light that kills vision; mine, anyways. My phone can get to be too much though, definitely, and that's why I use the blue light filter in the SETTINGS, and ADJUST the brightness when NECESSARY. You people sound like Neanderthals who by all accounts shouldn't even be able to access the internet due to the obvious mental deficiencies you possess. Kys.

>> No.19596185

>>19596025
>2006
Heh, you fags are STILL using cars when segways exist? Have fun in the dark ages old man!

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19596273

>>19596045
Debunked

>> No.19596311
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you are like little babies

>> No.19596313
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get on my level

>> No.19596322

>>19595375
I rate your debate, bait/8

>> No.19596331

>>19596025
An e-reader is to a book what a scooter plugged at 25 km/h is to a well trained horse.

>> No.19596367

>>19595375
I like to have a physical representation of the literature I enjoyed. Besides, I don't read all that often, and I only do at night by candlelight, so I don't need to carry the Alexandria Library with me at all times everywhere.

>> No.19596373

>>19596331
So it's still cheaper, more comfortable, easier to use, and more reliable?

>> No.19596377

>>19596367
Ted?

>> No.19596381

>>19596273
Okay. Reading in low light is still painfully unpleasant however.

>> No.19596384

>>19595375
>search, look up, care for, love, collect, smell every page, admire REAL books
or
>download 10000 books with 1 click from a torrent site
hmm yes the """"""""""""great"""""""""""" debate

>> No.19596386

>>19596384
conveniently owning an entire library for free? that really is an easy choice, thanks.

>> No.19596389

>>19595375
what is civilitzation collapses or you want to live as an eremit?

>> No.19596394

>>19596389
I'm already a hermit desu

>> No.19596397

>>19595375
Left is for traveling, for books you only intend to read/skim once, and for books that are too rare to buy for a reasonable price. Right should be for everything else.

>inb4 "I don't have enough space"
Probably untrue. In most cases when people say that they mean they don't have enough space to store them neatly in bookshelves. They could probably still store books horizontally, store books behind other books if it's a deep shelf, store books in boxes, and stack books on basically any surface including the floor if necessary. There's also the option of buying other shelving smaller than a full bookshelf, such as wall-shelving, book trollies, end tables and desk shelves.

>inb4 "but that'll be cluttered"
Clutter isn't always a bad thing. In the case of books it's desirable as it creates a comfy and homely feel, produces a nice smell, etc. Minimalism is a dangerous meme designed to make people happy with less and less wealth and power.

>inb4 "but storing books all over the place will cause them to degrade faster"
There's no reason books should all be treated as sacred. Use common sense and store books in different places according to their value to you.

>> No.19596398

>all the "if you don't own it you're less likely to finish it" posts
not untrue, trying to justify your investments is a real thing
however, powering through shitty books doesn't seem good either
i've mostly been pirating shit on my phone, and i've finished most things (although i still have a few things in my backlog)
granted, they were mostly classic plays (read: good and short) so itwas not hard to get invested

>> No.19596411

>>19596389
>what if civilization collapses
You're probably screwed, but the physical books would win out in the case the power grid failed.
I'm with this guy however >>19596394
Lately I've only been reading paper books despite being in love with my Kindle for so long, actually. But that's because I found a bunch of books I wanted to read which were from small publishing houses and weren't available on b-ok.

>> No.19596414

>>19596398
All of the books I read this year, except 2, I digitally pirated.

>> No.19596419

>>19596377
Clarice?

>> No.19596440

>>19596389
From a survivalism standpoint you should have both. Physical books are there for you if you lost electricity or your e-reader got destroyed/stolen, and e-books are there for books you can't carry if you are forced out of your home or if your physical books get destroyed/stolen.

Ideally you should have some backup power generators, batteries, etc too.

>> No.19596442
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19596442

I move too often to carry all this dead weight around so I gave all my books away
same with CDs, VCRs, DVDs, vinyls and cassettes
only physical books I still own now are a couple well printed art books, children's literature and some comics and that's already too much

>> No.19597142

>>19596419
Steve?

>> No.19597184

I use both. I read more on my Kobo but I still buy physical books sometimes because I like the sensation of holding a book.

>> No.19597319

>E-reader for travel
>Physical for bath

There are people right now who read books at home, not in the bath.

You guys are weird.

>> No.19597326

>>19597319
based Marat

>> No.19597373

>>19595993
E-readers don't emit light you tard, actually use one before you disparage them

>> No.19597392

>>19597319
Kobo H2O

>> No.19597477

>>19595969
this but white on black,
amber on black in the night

>> No.19597575

>>19595459
>I'm going to ooooooown this book!!!! Reading? I only oooown!

>> No.19597720

>>19597142
Francis?

>> No.19597725

>>19595375
Why not both.

I skim ebooks when I want to look up information quickly. I also have quite a nice library that I enjoy some evenings.

>> No.19597754

>>19597720
Gerald?

>> No.19597759

Digital for reference books and the books you are only going to read once
Physical for everything else

>> No.19597794

>>19597754
Perry?

>> No.19597859

>>19595375
I'd much prefer the right. As of now, I am one of the left side.
>>19595880
>Has been proven by imbeciles with half-baked tests who had poor understanding of the brain to begin with
You have much to learn, brainlet.
>>19595406
>There is no debate
You must be one of them "The science is settled" imbeciles.

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19598051

>amazon can take away your books if they wanted to
I'm not sure about that but regardless, I can't believe there are retards on this board who think Amazon has a monopoly on e-readers.
>>19595400
>light shining constantly into my face
E-readers aren't tablets with back-lit screens.

>> No.19598415

>>19595471
Exactly.I have ov25 1400 books on my iPhone.Didn't spend a cent...

>> No.19598423

>>19597859
cope

>> No.19598441

>>19595375
A library is aesthetically pleasing, a hassle to clean but whatever

>> No.19599044

>>19597794
Dickhead??

>> No.19599087

>>19595459
Holy brainwashed NPC bugman

>> No.19599098

YOU WILL EAT THE BUGS
YOU WILL LIVE IN THE POD
YOU WILL GET THE VACCINE BOOSTERS
YOU WILL READ THE AMAZON KINDLE

>> No.19599145

I prefer using a e-reader but I do like owning books, buying books makes me happy and I sometimes buy books even if I could get a digital copy for free, before I had bought my e-reader I would have said physical books were better because I don't think phones/tablets are very good for reading books unless it's has a lot of footnotes and references
Also I never leave my house but if I did then a kindle would be even better, I don't like how people can see what you're reading
I also like hoarding books from charity stores even if I never read them

>> No.19599174

>>19595459
Remove the DRM

Or just download from libgen

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>>19595949

>> No.19599243
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>>19595375
i have both i read obscure shit on my ereader and classics and stuff i can find locally in book form

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>>19599205
you can use your own dictionary. Also I believe the issues people had with built in dictionaries have been updated, pic related is the default kobo dictionary

>> No.19599365

>>19599301
my pic was from a ~2012 kobo glo.
Seeing custom dictionaries and encyclopedias on the newer ones is neat though. The menus on mine are really slow, but I only really use it for public domain fiction

>> No.19599411

>>19595375
Why not both? Use an e-reader for general reading, then buy the real deal if its a book you like. Its much cheaper to >buy a book on an e-reader then physical, but reading the physical version is always nicer

>> No.19599483

>>19595375
A lot of what I read is extremely obscure and out of print, such that you couldn't buy it if you wanted to, and for what you even can find for purchase the price is probably $200 a volume and up because they're academic/scholastic, or "rare" and thus for some richfag to "collect" for clout.

You bet your ass I use digital. half the shit isn't even available in mobi/epub and only pdf, so rather than even being able to use a kindle i use my laptop and sumatrapdf.

>> No.19599502

>>19595838
this. midwits blame the plate for not being able to appreciate the meal. if you read material and can't understand it, whether its' words on a screen or words on tree-mush, the problem is YOU.

tired of smoothbrains trying to posture.

>> No.19599531

>>19595684
>but it seemed too easy to give up on book if my mood deemed it "boring".
This is my problem with it. E-books are too smooth and effortless. I have like 40 books on my phone but because it's so easy to open any of them its much harder to dedicate yourself to only reading one book at a time. I invariably start reading, get bored, and open another book. Rinse and repeat.

>> No.19599561

>>19596367
there you have it. print-faggots are casuals who want their tinder date (who never actually meets them IRL anyway, let alone comes to their place to be raped) to be impressed with babby's first classics on his shelf. they don't even read, they just use books as decorations.
>>19596389
>what is civilitzation collapses
if that actually happened you wouldn't have time to sit around reading, you armchair prepper. half-wit larping obese faggot.

in that case you would STILL be better off with digital books so you could use your money and living space on FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION. if you aren't /fit/ and /k/ you wont live long enough to read your fucking books in some kind of civilizational collapse, you SOI BOY LARPING OBESE HOMOSEXUAL BITCH-TITS COUCH POTATO BUYFAGGING BASEMENT-DWELLING HUNCH-BACKED INCEL GOBLIN. buyfags are more worried about LOOKING well read than actually BEING well-read because you are soulless consooming posers with mulatto perms and a $22/hr corporate office slave cvck-position that you brag to your grandparents about while they hand you $100 in good boy bucks for your birthday and christmas so you can afford to buy a clean shirt now and then.

you're all disgusting. you aren't even worth my time. get off /lit/ and go sit amongst hobos at the library eyeing up women you're too sheepish and autistic to ever ask out, let alone show off your "shelf" to. you will never get laid. you will never be a post-collapse hermit king. you will never impress anyone with your goodwill entry level canon "stack." you dont even belong on this board--none of you read, you're too busy larping and posturing to get off your phone and go read a fucking book. join a church and find god. go buy a weight set and work off those bitch tits.

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>>19595969
this but with vertical scrolling turned on

>> No.19599828

>>19599561
You sound scared

>> No.19599844

>>19595471
>that spacing
bro............

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19599939

What will e-readerfags do when Am*zon starts fact-checking your books?

>> No.19599992

>>19599939
stop buying Amazon shit and use any number of alternative. Or just not have their device connected to the internet.

>> No.19600008

I like having actual books because its easier for me to arrange them to understand the influences on my own thought better. They are also part of my home and let others know where my academic interests lie. I am also quite wealthy so I can afford to buy books frequently

>> No.19600013

>>19600008
I only buy a book I'm going to read a second time, anything else is a waste.

>> No.19600029

>>19599939
I download books from zlib or LibGen and drop em on my e reader that way, not that hard

>> No.19600050

>>19600013
>anything else is a waste

I guess. Having a lot of books on my bookshelf makes me want to reference them quite often when they might be salient to a particular line of thought, which is enough worth to me. I shop at the used bookstore and everything is under $10-15 which is virtually nothing to me because as mentioned I am rich

>> No.19600084

>>19600050
I only make exception for topics of especial interest and reference books. I'm far from minimal but had a change of heart the last time I moved and got rid of a thousand or so of the fuckers that had accumulated.

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>>19599561
i going to enjoy buying your ass from slavers for a copy of the communist manifesto

>> No.19600483

>>19599939
>letting your kindle even once connect to the net
>not knowing how to build a pirate pad
loser.

>> No.19601002

>>19595375
is hundreds of times more gratifying have a wall of books than a terabyte of books, simple as

>> No.19601098

>>19595375
I have like 3.5 TB of books. Guess how they're stored.

>> No.19601237

>>19601098
>3.5 TB of books.
Who are you? God? What format and how many titles?

>> No.19602357

>>19595391
What situation would require you to carry those books anyway? I use a bookshelf for my collection.

>> No.19602378

>>19601237
Hard to say. I just hoard them like a madman, mostly via BitTorrent. I would estimate around 40% PDF, 30% EPUB + MOBI and the rest are weird/lesser used formats - like FB2 and CHM.

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I've been using a kobo for years, but still prefer a physical copy. i borrow a book from the library if i am unsure if it's a good read or not. sometimes i pick up a few cheap ones that are secondhand and in other cases i buy new ones if i'd like to have a fresh copy of it on my shelf.

it's also easier to talk about books with people if they check out what you got on your shelf or to borrow books to others.

>> No.19602386

>>19602378
Oh and I have about 30k titles indexed in Calibre but that's not even half of my collection, plus there are many duplicates.

>> No.19602410

Just ordered a Kindle (Paperwhite) and a case for it that opens up like a book so hopefully it has a similar feel to reading an actual book. I’m a trucker so it’s a good alternative to carrying a bunch of books around, but I’m hoping it’s good enough to replace books entirely so I’m not buying books in two different mediums

>> No.19602417

>>19602378
PDFs bloat the fuck out of file size, though. If it's your regular text get them as e-books instead.

>> No.19602423

>>19595969
smartphones are perfectly fine if you're a casual reader or want to read whenever and wherever your are. just keep progress updated between devices.

>> No.19602428

>>19602410
Better have a jack to charge it on the road.

>> No.19602436

>>19602428
not him but these batteries can last for weeks, that's not a concern.

>> No.19602448

>>19602417
I guess you're right. First priority is deleting all the trash though.

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I will reject both! Publishing houses have put millions of skilled orators out of a job and inflated the admission price for hearing a good story thirtyfold. It will be just deserts when the bookjew finally goes out of business.

>> No.19602860

>>19595375
There is no debate: It depends.

Kindle:
>for literally everything which is just text or text with black and white pictures

The old school booky book
>for everything that requires a large space
>has color
>has controversial ideas which could become political incorrect


In fact I would consider booky books, the old man's way of reading, something which is only useful mostly for textbooks or very picture intensive books. For example if you read a book about flowers, then you should only use the old school books.

BUT for around 99 % of books, ebooks are the way to go.
>history books
>fictional books like fantasy books
>books which have literally just text and black and white pictures

Ebooks have so many disadvantages (especially with an ereader, which is required to really get the best out of reading ebooks).

One example why ebooks with an ereader are just better.
Just imagine you sit in a car and read a book. With a normal book you have so many problems
>the light is changing all the time
>the pages will turn back if you are not careful
>the books weights a lot
>maybe the font is bad or too small

Guess what? The ereader has non of those problems. In fact even if you drive in a car and the car is changing from tunnel to tunnel, with an ereader you notice nothing. The ereader weights pretty much nothing, you decide your font, and so many other advantages.

Take the ereader pill. Even if you want to buy your books, ebook are much cheaper and in most countries the courts already ruled that Amazon is not allowed to delete your books, even if they remove your account.

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>having a bookcase
The only reason why a nigga would have a bookshelf full of books to begin with, is because he does not have friends to give away/trade books with.

>> No.19602903

>>19595375
There is no debate. For reading at home, quick reference, overall experience, and general aesthetics for those who care about them, physical books are idea. For those who travel frequently, as well as those who read books that would otherwise be difficult to acquire, an e-reader is nice.

You should have both.

>> No.19603023

>>19598051
>Amazon can take away your books if they wanted to.
>I'm not sure about that.
I am, they did that already once.
>Retards on this board think Amazon has a monopoly on e-readers
You're right on this point, the Kindle isn't the only eReader out there, and there is always sideloading and Airplane mode (my Kindle has never seen Wi-Fi)
>>19598441
I agree completely, and I'd much rather have a physical library, but I can't, so a Kindle it is.
>>19595969
I do this too, on my phone and a XiaoMi tablet. Got LithiumPro, and I sync my shit easily.
>>19599939
My Kindle has never seen Wi-Fi.
>>19601002
>s hundreds of times more gratifying have a wall of books than a terabyte of books
For you. I find that narcissistic.
>>19602903
Agreed.
>>19598423
You would've appeared smarter if you didn't reply anything, little brainlet.

>> No.19603038

>>19597319
>There are people right now who read books at home, not in the bath.
kobo h2o just to read in bath/sauna worth it

>> No.19603046

>>19602903
this, you should just be an idort. growing up with physical books, the convenience of the e-reader was obviously a great boon at the time, but nowadays i am going back to physical because i underestimated print books. they have many advantages.

you don't have to press a button to see how far in you are, flipping back and forth in reference books is not nearly the pain in the ass it is on kindle, the type is generally more interesting (at least on kindle, all books use the kindle fonts and pictures look like shit), never have to recharge it, and last but certainly not least is the aesthetic quality of having a bookshelf in your home. this one may seem trivial but it's not, i used to think it was but later i realize living in a totally barren bachelor pad is bad for the psyche. in the same way that corporations use bullshit lighting tricks and various gimmicks to improve productivity that nonetheless have a basis in science, so too does having a bookshelf and therefore making your living space more comfy produce a positive effect which should not be easily dismissed.

e-books are great for when you are away from your collection though

>> No.19603137

>>19602860
>weight
Can't your weak little arms carry a book?

Physical is overall a greater experience

>> No.19603180

>>19595375
Unironically inclined to buy an ereader because i've found a cool book style case, that references a game i liked.

>> No.19603325

>>19597319
other way around for me

>> No.19603455

>>19595375
> caring about the material in which words are printed for other people's books
can you make the fact that you don't read more obvious?

>> No.19603472

>>19602378
how do you prune duplicates and what site are you getting torrent batches from? you just grab shit like "sci-fi pack #14"?
>>19602575
the gutenberg press killed the oral rote traveling book bard.

>> No.19603522

>>19599844
>bitching over spacing
eat

shit


nigger

>> No.19603923

>>19595375
For real /lit/bros, should i buy an ereader? Which if so? Are they worth the price? And especially, in depth, why?
Should i get a cool cover for it or just roll with it regularly? And what's the beginner's guide to putting my stuff into it?
Never read on one, but very torn because the experience of a physical one is so much better, from what i imagine.

>> No.19604004

>>19603923
Bump for all of us in doubt

>> No.19604241

>>19595400
me on the left

>> No.19604461

>>19595515
You're not getting into my house.

>> No.19604486

I'm old and have read hundreds of paper books before ereaders existed. I don't understand the "better experience" argument. If you are focusing on the tactile experience or whatever, you are not focusing on the book. Learn to read lol.

>>19603923
Buy a Kindle Paperwhite (new ones have adjustable color temperature which is great for reading at night)
Download books on libgen, in epub or some other reflowable format (not pdf or djvu)
Download Calibre and use it to put them on the Kindle

>> No.19604494

>>19603923
>>19604004
for the best price paperwhite like that anon said, i've had the bigger ones with more features and it's really irrelevant.

>> No.19604512

>>19604486
>>19604494
Latest is 10th gen right? One of those would suit me nicely?

>> No.19604516

>>19604512
Also, on you gents' experience, does it strain your eyes? How paper-like is it? How long does the battery last, usually?

>> No.19604543

>>19604516
No eye strain. Battery lasts forever if you don't use the backlight. I wouldn't call it paper-like but definitely nicer than a computer monitor.
I don't know what the latest gen is but the amazon product page should mention "warm light"

>> No.19604558

>>19604543
Alright, I'll look into it. Thanks anons

>> No.19605001

>>19604512
Latest (and the only Paperwhite with adjustable color temperature backlight) is 11th gen.

>> No.19605236

>>19595375
This board is so fucking retarded sometimes. You buy an ereader and download free books off libgen. All of the books that were good or worth keeping you buy physical copies. Debate solved.

>> No.19605250

>>19602423
kys

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>>19600333
Would make a good short story

>> No.19605452

>>19603472
I mostly use qBittorrent's built-in search to look for collections. I do sometimes grab shit like 'Nonfiction pack for August 2021' or whatever but mostly try to find academic press packs and whatnot. I use Calibre's built-in duplicate filter for cleaning out copies and DropIt for pre-processing the files.

>> No.19605457

>>19605452
Actually one correction: the duplicate filter is a plugin, not a built-in feature.

>> No.19605654

Well, I'm reading House of leaves atm, so if I were to go totally in the direction of the kindle, I'd be fucked because it's not even on that device, and even if it was it would be a nightmare to read. Likewise, I think an app version of the book would be tacky and kill the conspiratorial and 'realness' having a physical copy exudes; I think part of Danieleski's intention was to have the read sucked in by thinking (or pretending) that they were in
possession of some classified document(s).

I have read ebooks before but personally, it doesn't feel as nice as having the book there in front. It's great for highlighting and abridging though for further reference later down the lines, especially of you don't want to mark your books with ink.

>> No.19605657

>>19599561
> This much anger
> Constant open seething about sex and physical appearance and violence
It's obvious you don't have sex

>> No.19605795

>>19599531
>IF I DONT LIKE IT I CAN'T FINISH IT. ITS THE BOOKS FAULT I HAVE AN ADD RIDDLED BRAIN

kys

>> No.19606767

>>19595512
Lmao

>> No.19607476

>>19595391
and you haven't read any of them

>> No.19607494

>>19607476
Nothing wrong with that. Once they finally succeed in killing the free internet books will be the best thing to have.

>> No.19607670

>>19604461
I wasn't going into your stinking basement

>> No.19607710

>>19596313
I wanna bite into that

>> No.19607825

>>19595949
>instant lookups in my 8 dictionaries and offline wikipedia
How did you set up the offline wikipedia? Thanks a lot.

>> No.19607879

>>19595880
Proven how?

>> No.19607920

>>19595459
I have over 2000 digital books, all for free thanks to piracy.

>> No.19607956

>>19595375
The image is correct there is no debate, having the best of both worlds is always superior.

>> No.19607978

>>19595459
I feel like a majority of /lit/ are the type of people to buy an e-reader to enable them to pirate books and read them easily for free considering they are priced the same as a normal book. Who cares about owning things? The most important part of a book is actually reading it not just placing it on your shelf to feel superior, I see someone with an e-reader I know they actually read a lot.
I have read a lot more since I bought mine and have been able to use my money to buy nicer editions of books I love that will last much longer or just books I intend to read in locations with nicer lighting conditions. If the debate is about "owning thing" then obviously physical wins but that is a stupid consoomer debate, I wouldn't scream at somebody for owning a library card and not buying the physical books themselves the same way I wont cry when somebody buys a book on kindle that they will probably only read once. It's not like they are constantly pulling away people's access to books anyway, the people who buy those books weren't the people who were going to pick up and preserve physical copies of books anyway they would have been destroyed or thrown out all the same

>> No.19608142

>>19599939
You can just download from Libgen without even connecting your Kindle to the internet if you're so concerned against Bezos looking for homophobia in your books.

>> No.19608336

>>19595375
The only Kindle's con is the battery (which lasts several days if not weeks btw) but other than that, it's superior to physical books in every way unless you like to collect facsimiles.

>> No.19608903

>>19595375
Real question is what is the best ereader

https://github.com/joeycastillo/The-Open-Book

>> No.19609516

>>19607825
could also just download

>Britannica Encyclopædia (En-En)

>> No.19609566

>>19609516
>Britannica Encyclopædia (En-En)
Sounds nice as well. I did some googling but couldn't find a nice .dict download. Do you know if there is one?

>> No.19609614

>>19602357
changing home

>> No.19609638

>>19603180
Cultist Simulator?

>> No.19609955

>>19609566
>>19607825
Here is wiktionary and an experimental wikipedia: https://www.dictinfo.com/

cant link you to Encyclopedia Britannica since my sources are down at the moment

>> No.19609983

>>19609638
Quite obvious, huh?

>> No.19610058

Digital because it's easier to pirate a PDF than robbing a bookstore.

>> No.19610344

>>19609983
I like Alexis Kennedy's stuff, so it stood out.

>> No.19610397

>>19595459
the only reason to buy an ebook if it isn't on libgen or zlibrary, and once you buy you should remove any drm and upload to libgen.

>> No.19610412

>>19610344
It's quite good. I used to play FL aswell. Do/did you? Ever got Ambition:Enigma down?

>> No.19610413

>>19602887
>not having all the books youve read on display so friends can choose what they want to take or borrow

>> No.19610463

>>19610412
I still play FL. I have the cider and everything. Quality has gone down but every now and then there's still some decent writing that keeps me going. Mostly I think I play from inertia though. I did do the FL Enigma back in the day and I hate a blast with CS Enigma. Currently working through the new one as well.

>> No.19610483

>>19599939
you think i pay for books?
the whole point of owning a kindle is so i can pirate ALL the books

>> No.19610505

ereader because I'm not a pseud

>> No.19610955

>>19597319
Imagine not taking the hot tub pill

>> No.19611083

>>19595459
you can’t like own thoughts man

>> No.19611616

practicality > sentimentalism

>> No.19612173

>>19609955
That's really great, thank you.

Do you happen to have the folder with the dict.dz and .index files for Encyclopedia Britannica? If yes and you have the energy for it, I would appreciate it a lot if you could share it on file.io or a similar site. Having a proper encyclopedia built in my e-reader sounds dope as hell.

>> No.19612197

>>19595375
I use Kindle for things that I only intend to read once, or that I would not miss or could easily replace were Amazon to nuke them out of existence overnight. If what I am reading has any long-term value to me I try to get a physical copy unless the physical copy is too expensive. I used to sing praise of Kindle because so much classic literature is free or almost free but I'm not sure if this is worth putting so many nice eggs in that basket.

>> No.19612201

>>19612173
Nevermind, I think I found it here http://download.huzheng.org/babylon/english/

>> No.19612260

>>19610413
>so friends can choose what they want to take or borrow
you have never lent a book or you would know better

>> No.19612263

>>19610058
why do you read at all if you're going to stay a nigger anyway?

>> No.19612398

>>19595375
Both.

Can we done with this now?

>> No.19612451

>>19595375
The only reason to read ebooks is so you can pirate them, or so you can listen to an audiobook if you're a lazy cocksucker.

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>>19595375
I don't read, I just listen to audio books.

>> No.19612729

>>19612650
There's a quote by Steve Jobs or Elon Musk that says the next frontier is getting into what's inside people's brains. They will introduce a technology by which they will be able to discern, through one of the cameras placed anywhere, that your pupil expanded by a nanometer when a girl that is 17 years and 364 days old walked by, or that you made the facial micro-twitch associated with a slur while an oppressed person from an underprivileged minority started beating and raping said girl on the sidewalk. The Google correction-car will pick you up from work 10 minutes later and you will undergo anti-racist conditioning and you will be given chemical castration and a mandatory cycle of neuro-corrective pills.

>> No.19613412

>>19595375
Neither. I only read on my desktop pc, and usually set aside some dedicated time for reading. Never bought a book either outside of school, only piracy. Rarely when I'm travelling and want to read a book I do it on my phone but usually if I'm travelling I'm doing other things instead of reading.

>> No.19613436

>>19612729
the science-fictional imagination is here as usual lagging behind reality because people are already doing that to themselves without the need for anything more technologically advanced than peer pressure amplified by twitter

>> No.19613439

>>19595375
Shut the fuck up and read

>> No.19613456

>>19595375
Both. Partisanship is the doctrine of Satan. All is good under the sun.

>> No.19613556

>>19613436
The thinking is good but I reject the idea that things will stay passive. We're going to enter a state of top-down enforcement, what is happening so far is establishing the full compliance of the people rather than enforcement. The facecrime shit will definitely kick in within the next few years. Think about job interviews. They show you images and you look at them while they record your face. All the micro-twitches can be traced back to "scientific" "research" that says you're this or that kind of individual.

>> No.19613581

>>19595391
where do you pirate them?

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>>19595375

>> No.19613613

I got a Kobo Libra h20, turned off the wifi, and download epubs and pdfs from zlibary and libgen if they're not in the public domain. I downloaded behemoths like the Complete Story of Civilization and The Decline and Fall and I expect I'll never even finish reading them, but you can bet I would never spend the money on their physical bulk

>> No.19613635

>>19599999
>>19600000

>> No.19613707

>>19595375
I don't even read much, but I simply appreciate physical books as objects. They're nice is all. I'd like to start a collection one day. That being said, I'll read an e-book if it's more convenient that way.

>> No.19613942

>>19613707
Don't get a whole library then. Laser focus on one book in particular and get a very fancy edition for it. If you want something other than the Bible, you can get pretty much any of the classics in a super fancy custom bound edition. You can carry it with you at all times.

>> No.19614114

I'll always prefer physical media when it comes to books.

>> No.19614361

are people purposely avoiding the fact that for the price of 3-5 books you can have a device where you can get 90% of the books in the world for free and you don't need any ones permission to do so? Book are still worth it and won't disappear any time soon but they will become like vynil; a format for hipsters.

>> No.19614362

>>19614361
not everyone is a thieving nigger, anon

>> No.19614391

>>19614362
>he reads non-public domain
oh ok, my bad, I thought we were discussing literature here

>> No.19614399

>>19614391
you don't read.

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>>19595375
>The great debate
It's subtitles, you faggot!

>> No.19615593

>>19602410
>>19604486
>Paperwhite
Does this Amazon thing has some kind of protection or can I just add stuff as I want?