/lit/ - Literature

>>19577953
It's a smut novel

>>19577953


HOW TO READ, THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE.

>>19577953
That its shit

>>19577953
it was written by a woman

>>19577953
Its a fairly solid low-tech sci-fi mystery written by a train loving autist
whose fans worship as "THE TRUTH"
and detractors seethe like the book grew arms and killed their parents

>>19577953
Pretty awful writing.
Sex scenes written by a starfish.
A view of capitalism that is completely false in reality.
Really fucking long speeches.
A book that should've never been a book but instead just a few essays.
It's really truly a waste of time.

It's terrible

>>19578081
>>19578152
>>19578588
I think she is based af and only leftists and pro government retards are seething 60 years later, being continuously bitch-slapped through the decades by her powerful clarity shining a massive stagelight on the thought-patterns of ugly and insecure manipulative assholes camouflaging as "good people" bullshitting themselves through life, turning the world to shit in the process.

>>19577953
there are only veryobvious good guys and very obvious bad guys in the book, lots of it is the author self insert flicking her bean to a hot guy and that's it's about 3 times longer than it needs to be

>>19578665
Atlas Shrugged is the book equivalent of those "yes chad" meme

>>19577985
...That was written by an autist. Literally her thought process:
>I would like to get fucked hard by a strong man
>But I don't care about muscles; what is a strong man, really?
>It's a man who's capable, who acts efficaciously in the world.
> What kind of man is that? What kind of values does he have? And what kind of political system is necessary for him to pursue them? And what kind of epistemological principles are necessary for him to be able to accurately identify those values?
And so on.

>>19577953
The novel is more of a portrait of virtue than you'd expect. The plot, characters, and style are powerful but not groundbreaking. I happen to like her conception of virtue, so the book is very important to me.


>>19578112
>>19578665
I think it's proper that so many people are angry about it and I think they'll continue on that way. This is a very strong statement of a very unpopular philosophy.

As anons say though, the sex scenes are numerous and memorable, and the romance is bizarrely present. There is a certain amount which probably came from her being so explicitly reverent of human sexuality in her non-fiction work, but also she did want to see her self insert have sex with her ideal lovers. I really think Rearden shouldn't have been made so based, I legitimately had a hard time believing Galt as the hottest guy even when you can tell he's like 8 inches shorter.[\spoiler]

>>19577953
the sci-fi elements are funny, she's just a history major from revolutionary russia
>>19579297
lurk more fag

That its shit and Ayn Rand is a hack

>>19578665
She spent her life advocating for the end of social welfare programs and calling the impoverished "social parasites" and died impoverished and on welfare.

If being a broke, hypocritical, talentless writer is ”based" then yeah, she is based.

>>19578033
This pretty much sums it up

>>19580332
She was worth hundreds of thousands of dollars when she died and accepted social security out of principle, as she considered it recovering stolen money.

To not listen to anything people say about it. It astounds me how much it triggers people when the message of the books is essentially "you don't owe anyone shit".

>>19580332
This is literally the only criticism I've ever heard levelled at it. Criticising the author, not a single decent refutation of the book's ideas beyond asinine whining.

>>19580332
I'd refute this, except you'd just go back to plebbit and come back tomorrow and keep saying the same refuted shit, like the jew you are.
So instead I'll just tell you to neck yourself.

>>19580332
>pay taxes throughout her life
>takes welfare her taxes paid for
No hypocrisy here

Rand got more strawman like with each book.
The fountainhead is better than Atlas Shrugged for being a story first and philosophical musings second.
We the Living aces them both on characters with slightly more than 1 dimension (sometimes).

The real question is, is it possible to live as pure a life as Howard Roark?

>>19580844
>jew
do you think he knows?

>>19581262
The entire thesis of the book is that it's possible to live as pure a life as Howard Roark, to be fair. Secondarily, I don't think anyone needs to defend the concept of a perfect hero in art, you wouldn't have a problem with him if you didn't think so lowly of Rand's ideas.

>>19582727
>do you think he knows?
About Rand's ethnicity? Irrelevant.

>>19578665
I'm an ancap and don't care for her.

>>19582727
>So lowly of rands ideas
I like Rand and overall agree with her desu. She has great insight into the 'fallen' characters in her books like Toohey and Taganov and Leo.
I think she let her fame get to her head and it impacted the quality of her writing as she got older, each successive book was increasingly self indulgent.

>>19577953
That the Fountainhead is the superior novel

>>19580836
The criticism is pretty bad too.
I'm not a libertarian or ancap or whatever but she took welfare as a way of getting back her money.
It might be a cope but she also died with enough money to not really need it.

>>19579297
>The plot, characters, and style are powerful

>>19580836
>not a single decent refutation of the book's ideas beyond asinine whining
literally see
>>19578152

A woman trying to say Anarcho-capatalism is based and CEOs are the true heroes of America, the same woman died on social security and refused to acknowledge any questions to her theories by opinions not favoring it.

>>19577953
Imagine unironically believing in the free market in 2021.

>>19577953
It still makes people seethe uncontrollably over 60 years later

I like dAconia's extravagant art collection, my sentiments exactly..

Atlas gets down to the nitty gritty of objective realism. The fountainhead allows you to figure it out to some degree...Ayn was into violent sex that whole alpha female submits to the alpha male type shit with biting tearing and scratching,..

>>19580332
suprised i thought she started the Rand foundation and was the CEO, were she eneded up cheating on her husband with a dude that was 10 years younger and looked like Howard Roark.

>>19577953
Why read this in 2021? you think the world is going to shit because there’s too many lazy people? nope. The world is going to shit because too many people are wageslaving too hard just to produce useless consoomer products and services. The world is upside down now. That was written when steam engine trains were still active.

Her prose is godawful.

>>19586705
Absolutely right. Here's an example of bad prose from The Fountainhead.
>The leaves streamed down, trembling in the sun. They were not green; only a few, scattered through the torrent, stood out in single drops of a green so bright and pure that it hurt the eyes; the rest were not a color, but a light, the substance of fire on metal, living sparks without edges. And it looked as if the forest were a spread of light boiling slowly to produce this color, this green rising in small bubbles, the condensed essence of spring. The trees met, bending over the road, and the spots of sun on the ground moved with the shifting of the branches, like a conscious caress. The young man hoped he would not have to die.

>>19584733
She used social security because she paid for it her entire life. She died a wealthy woman, stop using this retarded talking point

>>19578665
>you don't like the book therefore you're a leftist.
Bravo.