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Includes the new 2021 Top 100 Books chart

>> No.19560619
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>>19560613
The Books that didn't quite make the list

>> No.19560636

>>19560619
The fact that Absalom, Absalom! didn't make the list but Infinite Jest is in the top 10 tells you just about everything you need to know about this place.

>> No.19560637
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>Mein Kampf
>Das Kapital
>IS&IF
Cringe. You cannot beat perfection.

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>>19560613

>> No.19560646
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>>19560613
BAP should be on this list

>> No.19560647

>>19560613
The same chart the last 10 years but... in a different order?

>> No.19560651

>>19560646
no

>> No.19560659

>>19560647
Yeah, if I had of ended it sooner, the Brothers Karamazov would have finally come in first

>> No.19560667

>>19560647
They'll get around to the other books, eventually. Maybe 10 or 20 more years.

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>>19560613
working my way through all of these

>> No.19560674

>>19560669
Thanks anon, I've been looking for a chart like this

>> No.19560679

>>19560613
Can we make a list next year but with only literature? Not political pamphlets like Mein Kampf or Das Kapital. They take up space that could've been used by literary works.

>> No.19560686

>>19560636
IJ is a perennial top 5 and AA generally only scrapes top 20.

>> No.19560695

>>19560647
Almost like people still like the same few great books.

>> No.19560718

>>19560679
Agree wholeheartedly. Mein Kampf even being on this list is a fucking joke.

>> No.19560719
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19560719

break the yankee conditioning

>> No.19560737

>>19560719
>Sociology for the South missing
Shit list

>> No.19560752

>>19560613
>Odyssey over Ulysses
WE WON

>> No.19560793

>>19560669
Picked up
Very interested in reading Romance of the Three Kingdoms, I know there's a nigh infinite amount of versions of it. Same with Song of Roland and Ring Saga/Nibelungenlied.
Also have to say that Book of Mormon makes me laugh awfully hard

>> No.19560831

>>19560793
>Also have to say that Book of Mormon makes me laugh awfully hard
yeah im not sure what the american one would be, tom sawyer maybe

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Here for the tranny seething over based Hitler

>> No.19560888
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what next? I'm looking at Kant's CPR but could read some short novels before

>> No.19560897

>>19560888
How about the Bible you illiterate savage?

>> No.19560906

>>19560888
Hamlet

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>>19560888
>>19560613
Does anyone have a bingo on the new 100 Books chart?

>> No.19561012

Never mind.

>> No.19561032

>>19560986
Missing one on both column 1 and row 7 so not me

>> No.19561212

>>19560719
Muh states rights

>> No.19561238

>>19560613
>>19560619
>89th, 121st, 152nd
Waldunchads, we won

>> No.19561293

>>19560831
The Song of Hiawatha

>> No.19561540

>>19560888
checked. candide is pretty fun and short.

>> No.19561603

>>19561238
>89th
*chortles*

>> No.19562096

>>19560613
It's not bad but I'm shocked Bukowski isn't on there

>> No.19562304

>>19560613

no faulkner? really?

>> No.19562313

>>19562304
#38

>> No.19562324

>>19562313

just one faulkner? really?

>> No.19562342
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19562342

Anyone have a chart for understanding Hegel? Ideally something picrelated.

>>19560647
It's not like there are any decent books being published recently.

>> No.19562352

>>19560613
>Bible at #1
Damn is it really that good?

>> No.19562357

>>19560613
Alright bros fine I'll read the bible. What version should I read? KJV?

>> No.19562421

>>19562357
Yes, KJV has the most literary value.

>> No.19562452

>>19562352
>>19562357
>>19562421
The Bible is trash to read, but culturally it is very important

>> No.19562456

>>19562452
actual retard detected

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>>19562452
>The Bible is trash to read, but culturally it is very important

>> No.19562559 [DELETED] 

>>19560637
>IS&IF
Wuzzat?

>> No.19562564

>>19560669
American epic would be Song of Myself

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33/100

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33/100
What should I read next?

>> No.19562589

>>19562421
Nay it doth not. Deceits abound therein. it leads the people astray!

>> No.19562644

>>19562583
Master and Margarita. It has a talking cat in it, it's fucking wild.

>> No.19562727

>>19562583
Don't listen to >>19562644
Master and margarita is fucking dogshit and one of the worst books ever written, I quit halfway through

>> No.19562829

>>19562727
But it has a talking cat!

>> No.19562839

>>19560613
You chose really fucking ugly covers for some of these OP

>> No.19562866

what is with fucking the king lear? what is this? so shit i mean shakespeare is truly shit. dont know why is up there but also very poor work. i shouldnt be surprised because probably nobody read it or were the americans reading it in high school. so pretty based choice but shit book.

>> No.19562880

>>19562342
that is the hegel chart. Schelling on the Nature of Philosophy as Science and then youre ready for Hegel.

>> No.19562949

>>19562727
filtered westernoid

>> No.19562964

I hate sharing polls with Americans voting in The Bible and Mein Kampf.

Read a book once ok?

>> No.19563001

>>19562964
cope more twitter tranny

>> No.19563090

>>19563001
Basado

>> No.19563098

>>19560679
Just replace those picks with fiction entries from the second list faggot, what more do you want

>> No.19563102

>>19560686
>perennial top 5
It had fallen out of the top 10 for a couple of years. Glad to see it back. It is a great book and unfairly maligned by people who I am willing to bet for the most part have not read it and just join the pile up

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A question of great importance: would it be possible to somehow pull off separate polls for europeans and americans? So that we can get rid off picrel?

>> No.19563112

>Sophocles and Ovid not in the top 100
It's over for this board I swear

>> No.19563117

>>19560986
Ferdydurke and atomized fucked it up for me. Always interesting to see new entries in the bottom half of the lost

>> No.19563121

>>19562727
Did you miss the part with the talking cat?

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>>19562583
Start with the meme trilogy

>> No.19563136

>>19563128
He's already read the meme trilogy numbnuts

>> No.19563137

>>19563128
He's already done you idiot

>> No.19563143

>>19560636
moby dick is second place, the amerifats are hopeless

>> No.19563144

>>19563136
>>19563137
>replied at the same second
Amazing

>> No.19563162

Everyone who complains itt sounds like a pseud

>> No.19563165

>>19563162
including you

>> No.19563187

>>19563112
Very few votes for any playwrights other than Bill. Looked through the spreadsheet, 1 for Euripides, 1 for Marlowe, 0 for Ibsen, 0 for Schiller, 0 for Shaw. Seems people don't read plays. Or they're like me, and hadn't thought that a play would count as a book.

>> No.19563188

>>19560636
>tells you just about everything you need to know about this place
no it ain't

>> No.19563199

>>19560882
hitler would kill you either

>> No.19563202

>>19563104
You know hitler was European right?

>> No.19563210

>>19563001
touch sex

>> No.19563238

>>19563187
Aeschylus had votes too I think. Personally I didn't vote for plays because the votes are too diffused among too many works.

>> No.19563256

>>19560613
second guessing whether i should even save these charts now, how embarrasing for /lit/

>> No.19563289

>>19560613
Best chart so far.

>> No.19563314

>>19563289
One of the better charts in a while.

>> No.19563331

austria is encumbered by snow, so i wrote a poem about it at work. dont hold back poetryfags, my second ever attempt at lyrical writing:

Der Schnee verhüllt, der Schnee vereinfacht
ein Sand aus Eis, der alles gleichmacht
Mooß aus Kristall, erobre sacht
du Sturm aus Weiß, Vasall der Eintracht

Man sieht in seiner Zeit nur Formen
die alles viele an sich ziehen
zum Schweigen bringen alle Normen
und sich im Traum vom Ganz verlieren

Würdest du innehalten, dann
würd er auch dich nicht übergehen
deswegen bleibe dann und wann
stehen

>> No.19563336

>>19563331
fuck wrong thread

>> No.19563352 [DELETED] 

I'll stop voting Hitler when you stop voting Jews into power. Solve the JQ and the MK question will solve by itself.

>> No.19563456
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>>19560613
The only one you need.

>> No.19563483

I'll stop voting Mein Kampf when it stops being funny

>> No.19563616

>>19563483
before german classes at school we used to draw swastikas and the funny mustache guy on the blackboard to trigger the teacher. it was very funny. we were 13.

>> No.19563627

>>19563483
Honestly post your face. I'm genuinely interested in seeing the sort of person that finds that stuff funny.

>> No.19563636

>>19563627
You first. I'm interested in seeing the person who gets triggered by this.

>> No.19563639

>>19563187
>1 for Euripides
Hey, that's me :)

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>>19563627
there you go mate

>> No.19563666

>>19563112
Hey, Sophocles got my vote! And Aeschylus was close to top100. Too bad reddit is ahead of us;*(

>> No.19563667

>>19563636
Thats the thing though I'm not triggered. It's just someone making a bad joke that irl you would ignore or fake laugh at.

>>19563646
Probably

>> No.19563679

>>19560636
This says a lot about our society as a whole

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>>19563666
>Too bad reddit is ahead of us;*(
Actually, Aeschylus made Reddit's top 100.

>> No.19563706

>>19563483
You must be 18 or over to post here

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>>19563104
Nah, we should really have a seperate site for shitskins and other turd worlders. Back to r*ddit fag.

>> No.19563718

I didn’t vote so I’m not complaining, but I can see how it would be hard to vote for a more obscure book when it won’t really move the needle.

>> No.19563737

>>19560613
No shitkickers? TRASH!!!

>> No.19563739

>>19562564
That’s not Hart Crane

>> No.19563743

>Almost all of Dosto's oeuvre
>Lord of The Rings and Dune
>IJ
>Moby Dick never below top 10
>Ame*ican writers in top 20
>Brave New World and 1984 AND Animal Farm
>fucking Camus

NGMI

>> No.19563751

>>19560613
Why is this list so fucking american, most of the books didn't read any european

>> No.19563762

>>19563483
based

>> No.19563765
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>>19563667
Post the pic mutant boy

>> No.19563771

>>19561238
As a Waldunchad, seeing 3 of his books in an all time top 200 makes me happy ;)

>> No.19563781

Wow, there's no Hawthorne anywhere in the top 200. That's surprising.

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>>19563751
>monolingual
>midwits
>philosophy faggotry
>/pol/tards
most of /lit/ don't read, let alone value literary excellence

>> No.19563795

>>19563787
yea seems like it

>> No.19563797
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>>/pol/tards

>> No.19563798

>>19563771
why don't you felch him too you fucking faggot

>> No.19563813

>>19563616
>>19563627
>>19563706
its funny because you redditors get so worked up about it lmao

>> No.19563815

>>19563781
Looking at the spreadsheet, it seems that I was the only vote for Nathaniel Hawthorne, and The Scarlet Letter got 0. This amazes me.

>> No.19563816

>>19560613
>all that dostoevsky and genreshit
horrendous

>> No.19563824

>>19563813
Take your meds. I don't know what you think you are seeing but it's not there.

>> No.19563838

>>19563798
Believe me I would.

>> No.19563841

Meditations is a masterpiece https://youtu.be/UY16Ykmyj08

>> No.19563842

>>19563813
Fuck you you fucking poltard piece of shit it's not fucking funny muh hitler muh joooooooz grow the fuck up and read a damn book and stop being an edgy fuck. Nazism is not funny it's fucking sick. Hitler was an evil man. There is no joooz conspiracy. Your brain is fried from pol memes. There is no vaccine conspiracy, trump lost, and races don't exist. You lost so grow up and be a normal person in society instead of an incel chud.

>> No.19563850

>>19563815
No one wants to read difficult puritanist books from the 18th? century on lit. I prefered Tess of the d'Urbervilles by Hardy to Hawthorne. What makes you prefer the other?

>> No.19563862

>>19563751
>>19563743
>>19563787
>>19563816
That is the staggering majority, realising that just helps you to never take this place seriously

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>>19563816
>all that dostoevsky and genreshit
I think the crème de la crème of "genreshit" definitely ranks up there, but almost all of Dostoevsky's oeuvre I don't think so.

>>19563838
No I beleive you.

>>19563616
Same I used to draw swastikas at high school too and I thought it was hilarious, brilliant.

>>19563842
okay you sounding like bait now anon, wouldn't surprise me if you're samefaggin'

>> No.19563877

>>19563824
every year countless redditors get mad that mein kampf is on the list

>> No.19563888

>>19562866
>reading Shakespeare
You're doing it wrong

>> No.19563891

>>19563815
Everyone hates The Scarlet Letter in HS and they never read Hawthorne again. His short stories have a real distinctive folklore type vibe for NE USA which is cool if you’re in the mood. Most aren’t

>> No.19563903

>>19563863
Anon you're not interesting enough to mass reply

>> No.19563904

>>19563187
Yeah I was thinking like that too. I also wouldn't have thought OP would combine multiple works.
>>19563639
I like you

>> No.19563936

>>19563877
Are these redditors in the room with us now?

>> No.19563954

Ok you convinced me. Next year I'll vote for Mein Kampf too kek.

>> No.19563964

>>19563936
sure seems like it the amount of reddit tier snark im reading...

>> No.19563972

>>19563936
dude, i'm not him but having The Bad Book in top 100 is logical seeing as we're the "edgy" part of internet, having both Marx and Hitler is the "schizo" part
What you should be against is other political pamphlets, religious books, genre and "philosophical" novels

>> No.19563974

>>19563964
Ok I'll stop wi try the snark when it stops triggering you

>> No.19563981

>>19563850
To be fair I haven't read the Scarlet Letter since high school and House of the Seven Gables didn't impress me. Most of my surprise is due to reputation; I mean, it's not like any Hawthorne is much harder to get through than Moby Dick or Faust or Ulysses.

As for me, The Blithedale Romance just completely blew me away. Some of the best characters I've ever read. A bit overwritten, yes, but it's in the first person and even that's a perfect little bit of characterization. And the prose is often beautiful. It's aged incredibly well, feels extremely contemporary. The narrator and Zenobia in particular are very alive, modern types of people. It's also extremely based. I adore it.

>> No.19564007

>>19563974
>>19563972
>>19563936
Found the redditors

>> No.19564026

>>19564007
this >>19563972 is me: read it before responding, faggot, unless you voted for Mein Kampf because you actually think it's good, in which case fucking kill yourslef

>> No.19564027
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>Found the redditors

>> No.19564038
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>>19564007
i use 4chan and reddit (to lurk), go fuck yourself you discharge-moist cunt. 4chan isn't a real community, you don't really belong anywheew. you should kill yourself bro, you won't be missed before long.

>> No.19564052

>>19564026
>>19564027
>>19564038
>angry they can't downvote

>> No.19564084

>>19563751
Anglo board

>> No.19564093
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>>19564052
that you have the ego to keep mass responding displays your ego and arrogance. people around you find you annoying, and you might find a partner but never true affection (she needs you more than she loves you)
seriously anon, kill yourself. it would make you the bigger man and in time be a blessing to those you hold close

>> No.19564099

>>19564093
Cope

>> No.19564115

>>19563842
This has to be bait

>> No.19564122
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>>19564093
The fact that you keep responding to his obvious bait makes you the most retarded r*dditnigger around here. Which kinda proves his point.

>> No.19564144

>>19560613
>>19560619
Read 97 of these, did not expect to have read that many

>> No.19564161
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>>19564122
it's not bait it's a fucking /pol/tard or political-brain rotted nigger who thinks Mein Kampf is "funny", when it's just another book. Maybe significant in political history and history in general but not the best literature which is what the chart was for...
don't expect me to reply to you again faggot cunt

>>19564099
>imaged related.

>> No.19564169

>>19564161
cope

>> No.19564178

>>19563743
the basedest post in the thread

>> No.19564192

>>19563743
Nothing wrong with Moby Dick in top 10 and thus also Americans in top 20. The rest of the criticism is good.

>> No.19564212

>>19564161
>the best literature which is what the chart was for.
It's a favorite list. As a redditor you should know better than most that there is no such thing as best literature

>> No.19564230

>>19563813
You must be 18 or over to post here

>> No.19564233

>>19560669
>book of mormon

>> No.19564273

>>19563646
You look Nordic as fuck.

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>>19564212
>there is no such thing as best literature
cope.

>> No.19564282

>>19564273
Thanks. Prussian-German ancestry.

>> No.19564295

I'm thoroughly convinced that no one here has actually read The Bible. It's only in the number one spot because it's counterculture.

>> No.19564301

>>19562583
No Longer Human, it's short and easy to digest.

>> No.19564306

>>19564295
It's influence on culture is immense, it's understandable.

>> No.19564310

>>19564306
literature*

>> No.19564313

>>19564295
I can safely estimate that I've read 80-90% of the bible thus far in my life. (I haven't voted for it though)(I think it deserves a high spot though)(not necessarily this high though)(you may be right with the counterculture part though)(funny how it became counterculture in a few decades btw)

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19564359

Apparently, I read 44/100 of the /lit/ list. I'll never complete it because there are some that I don't plant to read in any near future.

I'm currently reading The Bible (not /lit/ version) and Ulysses

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I read 94/100 of the books in OP's list and I don't feel any different compared to before my "journey". This place lied to me. Well, guess it's time to finally dedicate my time to something more practical.

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19564446

>>19564418
What is next for me

>> No.19564472

>>19560888
From the list I'd say The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea, it's meme'd here a lot but Mishima is very good, he's like Dostoevsky but not as long-winded.

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36

>> No.19564495

>>19564482
Why didn't you just black it out?

>> No.19564499

>>19562583
The Recognitions, Gaddis doesn't get enough love here. I'm halfway through and it's beautiful and hilarious, I can get a better sense of the music of his prose than with Ulysses.

>> No.19564503

>>19564495
I thought I did, fuck that shit

>> No.19564507

>>19563352
Fuck off back to /pol/

>> No.19564528

>>19564503
Learn to edit images lol

>> No.19564530

>>19563743
Despite existing for only 250 years nothing comes close to the American canon.

>> No.19564532

>>19564528
LOL

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>>19560613
>tfw 23 yo
>tfw only read 11 of these books
It's fucking over

>> No.19564573

>>19564530
okay

>> No.19564590

>>19564507
Dilate

>> No.19564678

>>19564590
Whoa, mean

>> No.19564770

>>19564359
Moby Dick
>>19564446
To the lighthouse
>>19564482
Iliad

>> No.19564793

>>19564161
ahhaahhaaha

>> No.19564806

>>19564295
Nobody here has read anything

>> No.19564815

Infinite Jest is top 10

THIS PLACE IS FULL OF FUCKING AMERICAN IDIOTS

>> No.19565038

>>19560613
Lol, i only read 13 books.

>> No.19565065

>>19564815
I'm an euro and had the poll allowed for ten picks I would have like it voted for it too

>> No.19565089

>>19560619
>>19560613
>Camus has more votes than Heidegger
>39 people voted Anna Karenina, Tolstoys cuck fetish novel
Only cringe parts desu

>> No.19565098

>>19563685
Bland and boring, it's just "top 100 classics everyone should read!"

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>>19560613
Fixed

>> No.19565201

>>19564815
no one thinks you’re smart because you don’t like a popular book

>> No.19565300

>>19564418
>This place lied to me. Well, guess it's time to finally dedicate my time to something more practical.
>>19564446
>What is next for me
Nigger

>> No.19565394

>>19565300
Elaborate.

>> No.19565475

>>19562880
>Schelling on the Nature of Philosophy as Science
Do you know what book this is in? I'm not finding much reference to it.

>> No.19565587

>>19565065
>>19565201
how's college?

>> No.19565591

>>19560613
it really gets worse every year huh

>> No.19565611

>>19560619
This is the better list
(Still disappointed Shandy is on neither one of them)

>> No.19565676

>>19565587
Dropped off

>> No.19565708

>>19564418
>reading for practical purposes
your were a soulless bug from the start I'm afraid

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>>19560636
>>19564815
>mfw European always voting IJ

>> No.19565852

>>19564572
Don't worry, when I was first on /lit/ I didn't know almost ANY of the writers that were being discussed at the time, but if you read exclusively classics + most important works of philosophy, it will take about 2-3 years to fix your illiteracy.

>> No.19565968

>>19560695
Almost like /lit/ is an echo chamber that doesn’t read

>> No.19565983

>>19565968
Or maybe you get called names when you deviate from standard /lit/core...

>> No.19565995

>>19562564
It would be Moby-Dick since the chart isn’t including exclusively poems.

>> No.19566037

>>19563199
Hitler has been dead for almost 80 years, who gives a shit tranny

>> No.19566054

>>19562452
No it’s not

>> No.19566065

>>19562583
For some reason I find it funny that you’ve read Demons but not the other three most famous Dosto novels.

>> No.19566075

>>19561540
>>19564472
I'll read them. They were already on my radar.

>> No.19566081

>>19563713
The so called turd worlders you mock love hitler and are the majority of /pol/‘s users

>> No.19566106

>>19560613
wtf bros I thought we were going vote the Quran to number 1 just for fun

>> No.19566124

>>19564530
According to… americans

>> No.19566460

>>19566065
I heard it bashed commies so I thought it would be good

>> No.19566492

>>19565475
not who you're responding to but I am the anon that made that kant-fichte chart you posted above. For Hegel, read Hegel's Difference essay after you're finished with Fichte and then jump right into the Phenomenology. Use Harris's Hegel's Ladder to make it through. Schelling is good in his own ways but he isn't required reading for Hegel (Fichte is though)
gl

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19567025

>>19564282
>Thanks. Prussian-German ancestry.

>> No.19567034

>>19567025
Newfag.

>> No.19567048

>>19560613
lmao at how its LITERALLY the same white boy classics of the past 10 charts

>> No.19567110

>>19567048
it’s just great literature and has been objectively influential in our culture. is the Bible not deserving of first?

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>>19567025

>> No.19567135

>>19567110
>is the Bible not deserving of first?
Maybe certain books of it could be, but the Bible as a whole? I don't think so.

>> No.19567150

>>19567135
What books would you say aren’t deserving? Are there any that bring down the Bible as a whole?

>> No.19567170

>>19567048
Maybe other races should stop being so useless and contribute something to culture one day

>> No.19567171

>>19560613
>Mein Kampf
Jesus fucking Christ. Can we get the old pollster anon back that would actually remove the troll shit?

>> No.19567189

>>19567170
>Maybe other races should stop being so useless and contribute something to culture one day
Asia

>> No.19567236

>>19567171
Try r*ddit

>> No.19567287

Nice, next year we can get IJ back into the top 5.

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Fucking the eternal christcuckery

>> No.19567979

>>19563483
I don't know why I find Hitler and nazi jokes so fucking funny, I'm not a nazi. Maybe it makes people seethe or something idk

>> No.19567986

>>19563936
Yes.

>> No.19568186

>>19563136
>>19563137
Oh, I thought he removed the ones that were read.
>>19562583
In that case, Whalebook.

>> No.19568437

>>19560613
The Brás Cubas book is called "Epitaph of a small winner" in English I think

>> No.19568483

>>19560669
Such a bad chart man, so bad it really makes me want to make a better one

>> No.19568493

>>19563128
>>19566065
He removed the ones he hasn't read, not the ones he has.
The state of the average /lit/izen . . .

>> No.19568526

Has anyone uploaded these to the Wiki yet? I'm the guy who updated the table and added author names last year, I'd be happy to do it again this year if the images are there. Thanks again for putting the list together, anon. I look forward to this every year!
P.S. if anyone knows how that last column was calculated, let me know. I was having trouble deriving it and gave up, marked it "Pre-2020."

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What should I read next? I keep putting the Bible off. I really should read it.

>> No.19568811

>>19563842
This but unironically

>> No.19568859

>>19562583
>>19564482
>>19565124
>>19568551
I'm confused. Are you removing the ones you've read or the ones you've not read?

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>>19568551
You should

>> No.19569253

>>19560613
Is Libra worth checking out if I found white noise quite underwhelming and underworld just marginally better, even if occasionally brilliant?

>> No.19569366

>>19568551
Don't try to binge the Bible, and feel free to start with the good stuff first. Like you, I have not read Grapes of Wrath or East of Eden, but I have read Of Mice and Men. I really want to read the former two, so maybe, you should start there.

>> No.19569399

>>19568859
Retard

>> No.19569559

>>19560613
>Animal Farm
>American Psycho
>Atomised
>Meme pick
these ones alone make the value of the list falls down a lot, but
>Calvino
>Zeno
make it redeemable

>> No.19569564

>>19569559
Kek someone who likes Calvino has the gall to criticise actual classics and call other books memes

>> No.19569571

>>19569564
>Mein Kampf not being a meme pick
also, Calvino is peak comfy

>> No.19569586

>>19568483
be the change you want to see in the world

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>>19569559
>Animal farm
>bad
Why? Because it makes commie faggots like you seethe real hard? Both Mein kampf and Animal farm has more value than anything written by Karl marx and Kant and thats a fact.

>> No.19569640

I will never understand why every year the Divine Comedy is behind a bunch of burger modernist shits.

>> No.19569651

>>19569613
you're gonna need a bigger bait

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>>19569399

>> No.19569714

>>19569640
Because burgers are the plurality on this board

>> No.19569747

>>19569640
>>19569714
We got Iliad in top 5, the Bible in top 1, let's get Dante in top 10 next year boys. Revolt against the plebe and bring back patriciandom.

>> No.19569753

>>19560619
>#101
>Fulkner

>> No.19569756

>>19569613
But Orwell was a brainlet socialist who even fought for the Spanish republicans lol

>> No.19569788

>>19565098
If you added the bible and mein Kampf and got rid of all but one of the female authors you could easily pass it off as /lit/'s.

>> No.19569813

>>19569788
It's crazy how similar the lists are yet how different the communities are. I find that r*ddit board incredibly dull. I will never understand the stark contrast between 4chan and r*ddit it feels like different worlds altogether.

>> No.19569833

>>19560613
LOTR is way, way too high, it's a book that would be mostly ignored today, it just had first mover advantage in a new market. American Psycho was good, doesn't belong on the list though. Infinite Jest does not belong on the list either or should at least be much farther down. Book of the New Sun isn't even the best genre fiction, but it's quite good genre fiction, so I can see it somewhere on the list, however I'd put Dune or The Darkness That Comes Before before it.

It's funny to see Atlas Shrugged disappear. Old school Boomer conservatism truly is dead, huh? How long until BAP takes Rand's place? That's an improvement though because the book is incredibly hackneyed budget Nietzsche.

I highly doubt a tiny fraction of this board has read A Critique of Pure Reason or the Phenomenology, and mixing philosophy with literature seems sort of silly, as does the inclusion of religious texts.

Overall though, the list isn't bad, although I would switch some things around. Antony and Cleopatra ranks with Hamlet as my favorite Shakespeare. I'd definetly have Antigone and Prometheus Bound near the top if drama is being included. War and Peace > Anna Karenina, although I can see a case for either. The exclusion of Borges, is criminal.

However, the exclusion of any Toni Morrison, but inclusion of American Psycho, IJ, and the Unibomber near the top does definitely give this a 4chan feel, so it's good for what it is. Combine that with the inclusion of esoteric texts few have actually read but which must be added for prestige and it's kind of perfect.

>> No.19569836

>>19569833
Never mind, I see Borges by the top now, somehow missed him.

>> No.19569872

>>19569833
>thinks Antigone should be near the top
>finds it unlikely that the 8 people who voted Kant read Critique of Pure Reason
>he thinks there are esoteric books included that people haven't read
Yup we got a pseud

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>>19564161
Your pain is the reason Mein Kampf needs to be in the list every year along with The Capital and the 98 best books

>> No.19569927

>>19569921
cope

>> No.19569949

>>19569833
>It's funny to see Atlas Shrugged disappear
It never made the list in the first place redditor

>> No.19569980

>>19569872
I've posted on /lit/ enough to know that philosophy threads are 95% people skimming Wikipedia to claim that X philosopher was totally retarded because Y philosopher said Z, so yes I don't think the average amount of study is particularly deep.

If it's just 8 votes, maybe I'm wrong though.

>> No.19569988

>>19569921
The Capital is a great book and by no means a retarded rambling pamphlet

>> No.19570053

>>19569988
ywnbaw

>> No.19570111

>>19563751
Most of this board only reads books that have been praised in the Anglosphere for 100 years. 90% American, British and Dolstoi

>> No.19570166

>>19570111
Gogol made it to the honorable mentions at least. Pelevin is underrated as a contemporary author in the Anglosphere for sure though. Murakami is absent too it seems.

This isn't /lit/ specific though. The NYT just did a list of the best books in the past 125 years and it is almost all English, with Harry Potter near the top. I almost thought it was only English, but Marquez is there.

This is true of other languages too though. French books fill out a lot of Le Monde's list, 7 of the top 10. I do credit the list for including Umberto Eco though, which English lists often don't, same for Kundera.

>> No.19570175

>>19570166
>Murakami
Kek are you lost?

>> No.19570581

>Dune
Lol
Lmao

>> No.19570587

>>19560640
How did Dante fell so much?

>> No.19570686

>>19560613
People still read here?

>> No.19570725

>>19560613
Who are the biggest risers and fallers?

>> No.19570746

>>19570725
Good question

>> No.19570752

>>19570725
https://4chanlit.fandom.com/wiki//lit/_Top_100_Lists

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>>19560613
>The Bible is first

>> No.19570851

>>19560613
What a surprise! it's the exact same basic shit as last year and the year before.

>> No.19570857

>>19570851
What did you vote for anon?

>> No.19570859

>>19560613
how many books from the 2021 chart have you guys read? for me it's 37, am I a proper /lit/izen now?

>> No.19570888

>>19560613
I'm so happy that Ferdydurke made it. Poland stronk (ironically thanks to an anti-Polish author)

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>>19570752
The biggest growers

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>>19570752
The biggest shrinkers

>> No.19570909

^ only considering books that made it on both lists

>> No.19570911

>>19570857
De Rerum Natura, The Obscene Bird of Night, Tristram Shandy, The Museum of Eterna's Novel, La Celestina, That Awful Mess on the Via Merulana

>> No.19570916

>>19570911
Kek these are the best books ever?

>> No.19570917

>>19570725
>>19570746
I doubt I'll ever update this.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTNWA5sy6wjM6tjWKeCt5YbwBq94SrF84cjsfJZADVKulFbr5PhlQ6aM4Fh3Bo6RtpWoNpK-Lh6juAP/pubhtml
Note: It doesn't use the average for ranking placement

>> No.19570918

>>19570916
Did I claim that?

>> No.19570924

>>19570918
That's what people vote in these polls anon

>> No.19570928

>>19570911
>>19570918
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ORMvghH1D0kbbA1LgyeuJDGmKQ2sQ_9y/edit#gid=412366287

None of those are on the spreadsheet you liar. And anyway, you have terrible taste in books. No one is impressed you gay faggot.

>> No.19570931

>>19570905
Rulfobros...

>> No.19570933

>>19570924
Then as I said it is just surprising it is always the exact same basic reads

>> No.19570943

>>19570933
Those are not basic reads you idiot, they are popular for a reason. But you are too insecure to admit you like the same books as everyone else, so you have to dig out these obscure books to like to boost your ego. Peak pseud.

>> No.19570946

>>19570928
Well shit. Guess I fucked up somehow. Still since I doubt you have read any of them you should give them a go.

>> No.19570955

>>19570928
>>19570943
Rekt

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32/100
Green = read, yellow = reading, red = dropped. (The Bible, in book of Samuel. I read it once in a while in between other books. W&P, dropped 15 years ago at the point when Moscow burned. I don't feel like restarting or continuing from where I dropped it. I was younger then, but I did like it. I remember liking Pierre's sections in particular and especially the part where one of the characters wakes up amid all the snow after the battle.)
What is Ferdydurke? I've never heard it discussed here before.

>> No.19570960

>>19570943
They're not obscure lmao. Regardless, I didn't say they're bad. As I said, I am just surprised it is always the same books.

>> No.19570971

>>19570958
It's a kind of modernist weird fiction concerning the problem of immaturity. Very eerie and funny at times.

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>>19560619
>4 votes for harry potter
based!

>> No.19571403

>>19570905
Mexibros...

>> No.19571500

>>19560793
>>19560831
The American one should be Leaves of Grass or more specifically Song of Myself by Whitman. There's really no question.

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>>19560613

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>>19571679
>Posting r*ddits censored version
You have to go back nigger.

>> No.19571794

>>19570905
Pedro paramo is good but there was definitely ballot stuffing last year

>> No.19571815

>>19571741
You're clearly a newfag if you still think there is novelty in saying nigger.

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>>19571815
Yeah, whatever nigger you still have to go back.

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>>19565124
>>19560619
meh

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>>19571741
For the last time that's not a censored version but a fiction only version for babies. Here's the censors version you dumb sperg

>> No.19572302

>>19563646
Nordic as fuck
could i see your left arm by any chance?

>> No.19572313

>>19571741
>not realizing this was a completely different poll and chart and getting angry

>> No.19572315

>>19570943
>popular good hurr
Are you genuinely retarded? Let’s put Harry Potter and Ready Player One since they are popular too, right? There are some books in the chart that no one should be reading past high school and do not deserve a spot on the “greatest” books ever.

>> No.19572325

>>19572315
Are you ok? I don't think Harry Potter or Ready Player One made the top 100.

>> No.19572329

>>19572315
>Harry Potter
>Ready Player One
Those books aren't popular here.

>> No.19573067

>>19572315
Idk mate, looks like bait

>> No.19573090

>>19570851
>it has to be new shit
haha basic

>> No.19573115

>>19560888
Catch-22 is hilarious

>> No.19573120

>>19573090
Nah but it does highlight a lack of worldliness

>> No.19573176

>>19570898
DostoChads literally cannot stop winning

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>>19560613

>> No.19573960

>>19572325
>>19572329
reading comprehension, learn it

>> No.19574017

>>19573120
I think most of these types of lists are very similar in the top 20 or so. It’s just hard for an underrated gem to unseat one of the titans of literature

>> No.19574056

>>19573960
Harry Potter and Ready Player One are not popular.

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>>19560619
More votes for Art of the Deal than Middlemarch.

>> No.19574440

>>19574017
Yeah you're right. Guess I was just bitter no one here seems to care for Macedonio Fernandez despite the board's love for Borges.

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>>19560669
Expanded version

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>>19574487

>> No.19574520

>>19560613
Why the fuck is dune on the list? Is this Reddit?

>> No.19574540

>>19568526
fyi I'm this guy but not the person that updated the page (thanks!) but removed the chart image gallery (thanks?)

>> No.19574669

The absolute state of /lit/

>> No.19575002

>>19568859
People are doing both. It makes more sense just to cross out the ones you have read.

>> No.19575104

>>19560613
Pseud list.

>> No.19575118

>>19560718
How? Did you read it? I think it was a good book, national socialism as an ideology aside. It contains some lessons and life stories of a decorated WW1 vet, read it through those lens instead of your biased ones and perhaps you'd enjoy it more.

>> No.19575130

>>19566081
What is your critique of Mein Kampf? Any arguments against it's literary quality or are you only going to regurgitate discord buzzwords? If you want to see Karl Marx at #1 why don't you simply hold the poll back on leftypol? And don't even try and say you aren't a leftygoylem, I'm willing to bet 10, no 20 bucks you have a discord account.

>> No.19575143

>>19563842
>Fuck you you fucking poltard piece of shit it's not fucking funny muh hitler muh joooooooz grow the fuck up and read a damn book and stop being an edgy fuck. Nazism is not funny it's fucking sick. Hitler was an evil man. There is no joooz conspiracy. Your brain is fried from pol memes. There is no vaccine conspiracy, trump lost, and races don't exist. You lost so grow up and be a normal person in society instead of an incel chud.
>there is no joos conspiracy
Jacob R was right. Why even try to defend yourself when you have slaves to do it for you. Perhaps the Talmud was accurate in calling you cattle.

>> No.19575658

>>19568526
>>19574540
anons (not only you, but any anon), try and remember
>>19246421
>>19247192
>>19252913

>> No.19575773

>>19571741
>il/lit/erate

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Why are people seething so much that Hitler made the list when Marxs garbage is also there