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Where to start with Foucault?
What kind of background is needed?

I watched his debate with Chomsky and was interested by his thinking.

>> No.19558652

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault%27s_lectures_at_the_Coll%C3%A8ge_de_France

>> No.19558657

>>19558652
also Althusser's For Marx and On Ideology are good to see where exactly he was coming from intellectually, although not necessary

>> No.19558669

>>19558632
I have no idea why you'd want to subject yourself to this, but begin with The Foucault Reader

>> No.19558677

>>19558632
>https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/foucault/
You could read his entry on the stanford encyclopedia to get an overall idea and to know where to start i guess.

>> No.19558681

>>19558669
>start with a bunch of contextless shit compiled by some faceless person at penguin

>> No.19558684

>>19558669
>I have no idea why you'd want to subject yourself to [the most relevant philosopher of our time]
His work on biopolitics must be read by everyone

>> No.19558692

fyi it's pronounced: Foh-koo

>> No.19558699

>>19558681
Anon, Foucault's entire oeuvre is contextless shit

>> No.19558704

Nietzsche, Zur Genealogie der Moral
Heidegger, Sein und Zeit

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19558731

>>19558652
>>19558657
The lectures sound like a good place to start, being in oral, thus simpler form. Thanks anon. I'll keep Althusser in mind.

>>19558669
Sounds like a good intro. Why don't you like Foucault, anon?

>>19558704
Why Nietzsche and Heidegger in particular though? Can you elaborate on why you think those are important to understand Foucault's works?

To anyone else responding I can read French, so if you know some intro to Foucault in French (or some work by him) with no English translation it's welcome

>> No.19558736

>>19558692
it's pronounced Foo-koh you retard, you got it the other way around

>> No.19558785

>>19558632
Don't. He's a retard. Postmodernism is dead, the Frankfurt school is a discredited joke.

>What kind of background is needed?
Pedophilia.

>> No.19558792

>>19558785
>Don't read him because he's le heckin problematic white man
The absolute state of /lit/

>> No.19558810

>>19558792
>fucking teenage boys and giving them AIDS
>"problematic"

>> No.19558824

>>19558810
Not that anon, moralfagging is already bad, but moralfagging based on lies is the bottom. Go kys retard.

>> No.19558842

start by getting HIV, I guess

>> No.19558858

>>19558785
>>19558842
fuck off

>> No.19558916

>>19558731
I don't like him because I'm a Platonist

>Why Nietzsche and Heidegger in particular though?

Not that anon, but Nietzsche is indispensable for understanding Foucault because his thought begins as a final-stage interpretation of Nietzsche, his perspectivism and the idea of persistent struggle. As for Heidegger, Foucault's struggle is a post-Heideggerian one.

Sorry if this came across as rambling, I'm ESL

>> No.19559187

>>19558632
Start with the baby rapist cannibal dark priests

>> No.19559204

>>19558632

Understand that he was a homosexual pedofile, a sodomite of the highest order, and therefore all his """ideas""" are worthless and just a cope.

>> No.19559381

>>19558632
the care of the self is his best work
it's a reinterpretation of stoicist philosophy in order to find meaning in today's world

>> No.19560526

>>19558632
Much of the debate is either other scholars work (post structuralism) or Foucaults private thoughts (praxis). His published thought is bland jobsworth shite and he said as much about l’academie

>> No.19560532

>>19558692
It’s pronounced Fuckall

>> No.19560586

>>19558632
Discipline and Punish
The Order of Things

>> No.19560601

I find it weird how Foucault focuses on very fundamental things like the changing face of slavery and imprisonment and torture while people cannot really handle this nature of things being brought up and would rather attack his character which in my eyes, rather proves his point about the superfluousness of the idea of changing natures.

>> No.19560618

>>19558632
idk I started with Order of Things and Archaeology of Knowledge. I have a pretty good background in philosophy (read most of the major figures - Freud, Nietzsche, Kant). I think the best help in understanding him was having read Deleuze previously and lots of Nietzsche. Haven't read Lacan or Marx and I think that those were some blindspots for me.

>> No.19560633

Foucault is a waste of time because his stuff is always this crazy, schizoid mix between "denouncing" injustices while heavily eroticizing them.

>> No.19560660

>>19560633
It only really fits what he is saying. Anything else would be inconsistent and if anything this consistency denounces more and is more liberating in thought than if he was just a run of the mill edgelord.