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>>19545463
World is used in different senses. John 3:16 refers to the world as the cosmos, or totality of creation while 1 John 2:15 refers to the world as the material world or carnality. Loving "the world" = desiring more material possessions, fame, respect from other people, etc.

>>19545463
man loves world = bad
god loves world = good

another wage of sin

>>19545463
I think what is meant here by "world" is objects and unhealthy attachments to objects and people. What is meant is seeing worldly things as worthy of love for the simple fact of being worldly alone is wrong. So you must not love the "world" as in love objects and people simply for being objects and people but you must love God and God is in all things. This means that by loving God, you also love the world, but only in so much as the world is a reflection of God. I hope this makes sense.

>>19545463
2:15 world means material things.
3:16 world means humanity.

>>19545486
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Well said brothers.

>>19545773
Not just material things, but *the prevailing sinful ways*.

>>19546759
a question that just popped into my mind, if you happen to be here.
I heard the whole "but they're icons" argument, but how does that fit with Exodus 20:4?

>>19546759
God bless.

>>19545486
Why is the Logos so imprecise bros?

>>19546971
What?
If you're mentioning wording at all, in greek different words are used.

>>19545463
>1 John 2:15 “LOVE NOT THE WORLD, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.”
Of course, if you practice a pantheistic love for the world like Spinoza, or Nietzsche amor fati, you will simply walk away from God grace.

>John 3:16 “For God SO LOVED THE WORLD, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
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>>19546936
God commands the Israelites put cherubim on the ark, and Solomon’s temple had artwork of cherubim, palm trees, flowers and other things (1 Kings 6:29)

>>19545463
>Do I love the world or not?
I think "the world" is the same in both verses; but God loves the fallen world in order to save it, whereas we love it to gratify our fallen natures.

I think a further distinction is that we must not love the world as our final goal, as the end-all and be-all. The world, as God created it, is good. We see that clearly in the Book of Genesis. But "God has not created us for the perishable and transitory things of earth, but for things heavenly and everlasting."

Thus, there is a reasonable love for say, the beauties of nature, but we were not made for those things to be our final end. This is why animals are perfectly happy in the world; they were made for this world. But human beings, made in the image and likeness of God, are very often so unhappy, because they were *not* made for the world as a final end. Our hearts are restless, because they were made for God.

Do not love the world / or the things of the world. / If anyone loves the world, / the love of the Father is not in him. / For all that is in the world, / sensual lust, enticement for the eyes, / and a pretentious life (versus obedience), / is not from the Father but is from the world. / Yet
the world and its enticement / are passing away. / But whoever does the will of God / remains forever.

Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world.
The world is passing away and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God continues to live forever.
1 John 2:15-17