/lit/ - Literature

>>19511627
The Seventh Continent gutted me.

>>19511627
There is none, just books. The only reason these film categories exist is so people can feel superior to others who watch "lesser" movies, meanwhile they're all just sitting on their ass in front of a screen.

>>19511627
classics, literature, genre, pulp

>>19511627
Cinema = Literature
Film = book
Movie = genre fiction
Flick = pulp fiction

>>19511647
t. flick fan

>>19511633
Which one is that one? What's top left

>>19511647
>pleb and proud
o i am laffin

In case anyone wants to know:

>Top left
Winter Light (Ingmar Bergman, 1963)

>Top right
The Seventh Continent (Michael Haneke, 1989)

>Bottom left
The Shining (Stanley Kubrick, 1980)

>Bottom right
Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)

>>19511677
>Mulholland Drive
>flick
??

>>19511633
Same 8[ it took an irl tragedy to zap me out of that funk

>>19511627
>Biblion
Epic of Gilgamesh
Phaedo
Sixth and Seventh Books of Moses
Book of Job
>Literature
Canterbury Tales
Alcibiades the Schoolboy
Finnegans Wake
Gospel of John
>Book
Ulysses
Tropic of Cancer
Infinite Jest
>Pulp
Harry Potter
LotR
Dune
etc

Literature
Pop literature
Nonfiction
Flash Fiction

>>19511627
Heart: Ulysses
Brain: Gravity's Rainbow
Popcorn: JR
Flick: Infinite Jest

>>19511688
Job really is the best part of the bible. I wonder what it is like in Hebrew

>>19511688
>Biblion
kek

>>19511627
Dude I just watched Winter Light the other night, such a good mov….cinema

>>19511661
>>19511666
I don't watch movies.

>>19511776
Neither do I; I only watch cinéma.

>>19511665
top right
>What's top left
winter light

>>19511665
>Which one is that one?
Top right
>What's top left
Looks like winter lights
>>19511627
Pic is missing joint

>>19511686
It was an odd experience. I went into it not really knowing what to expect and I was watching the last bit while being distracted on my phone, telling myself 'wtf am I watching' and then suddenly everything hit me when flashbacks were shown. I started to cry uncontrollably and was left sad for a couple of days. Ironically very life affirming.

>>19511627

Yeah, Mulholland Drive is just another flick, dream-like capeshit. What a weak bait.

>>19511681
Yes? It's as pop culture as it gets. On par with marvel films.

>>19512193

Ladies and gentlemen, the contrarian pleb.

>>19511681
It’s lesbo bait for coomers.
It’s message on the shallowness and seediness of Hollywood is incredibly passé and obvious despite all the surreal shenanigans.

I say movie and film interchangeably. As for an equivalent there's literature, genre fiction, pulp, maybe some others. This isn't a distinction normal people make

>>19512204
Name three decent post-code film by mutts.

Yes, that's what I thought.

>>19511677
Winter Light is a bit too nihilistic for me. I preferred Robert Bresson's Country Diary of a Priest.

>>19511627
Of a stupid bait picture?

>>19511627
Literature: books
Not literature: what every fucking thread on /lit/ is about

>>19512219
This is correct. Diary is entry level Bresson however. Watch more

>>19512263
I've seen Au Hasard Balthazar, The Devil Probably, and Diary of a Country Priest so far.

>>19512216
>post-code
?

>>19512333
>he doesn’t know
Lurk more and read up on Hollywood history kid. Your journey into /film/ has only just begun apparently.

>>19512333
A US thing to hamper too much free expression. That poster is likely the Pabst snob

>>19512216
american cinema sucks ass but name a single good movie to come out of the hays code

>>19512389
the nadir of shit is... even more shit

>>19511812
>>19511817
Cheers bro

>>19512271
I enjoyed A Gentle Woman and L'Argent is quite good too

What is the literary equivalent of an enema? It must be a book that cleanses you and provides some comfort after reading it. Perhaps, it is dirty or deals with matters people cannot discuss in polite company.

>>19511686
What's that image? Where can I find more like it?

>>19512782
Could be any of a dozen sword and sandal epics. Quo Vadis, Ben Hur, Spartacus.

What's the film in the image? Looks dope

>>19511681
Never seen Winter Lights, but I did watch the other three. You really notice a quality difference. SC plays like a series of scenes and the audience has to work for their meal -- we aren't awed with spectacle, supernatural shit, or violence. Shining, for 1980, was a heady genre film, but still a genre film. MD is all spectacle -- jump scares, love scenes, violence.
>>19511627
Off the top of my head
Literature -- Les Liaisons dangereuses, Les Misérables, Don Quixote
Novel -- Thomas Hardy, James Joyce, Melville, Dickens, etc.
Book -- Gone Girl, No Country For Old Men, Mason and Dixon, etc.
Genre Fic -- Harry Potter, LOTR, Dune

>>19512216
>decent
There are plenty of "decent" post-code American films. I'll say Taxi Driver, F for Fake, and Down by Law. Now, if you said three post-code American films that are at the apex of cinema, it would be harder.

>>19511627
What movie is "film"?

>>19512958
>>19512896
Kys

>>19511627
Is this suggesting that Mulholland Drive isn't artistically intriguing?

>>19512973
Zoomers hate the good directors of previous generations. Kubrick and Lynch are great, and mentioned often, so trolls mounted a campaign to slander them, so now they’re not popular.

>>19512958
>>19512896
Seventh Continent by Haneke. Ignore the shitposter.

>>19512193
>>19512205
No?

>>19511647
Film is not just filmed theater, pseud. Its not theater because its heightened on instinctual nodes that have to be perceived through neurological rhythm, related to direct sensory development, perceived through focused intuitive movement and *folkish* *symbols* and objects. Well, you could say no theater does the same thing with dialogue. Except theater is restricted by the intellectual fore-thought beforehand and can only grow and function in the limitations it sets for itself. That's not a bias or a negative but its how theater itself wants to be perceived and developed. Cocteau, in the tradition of Mizoguchi, Has, Tarkovsky, Bunuel, can capture direct sensory thought through camera and editing heightening, but also specifically chipping away at whatever doesn't heighten sensory thought. Sensory thought meaning the correct flow of logical events, except it can also be meta-logical. Sensory thought in this captured and condensed form becomes limitless and endless in possibilities because it truly mirrors the rapid firing of synapses. This has less to do with *interpretation* and more to do with the processes of cognizing movement. Well, you might ask, why do their films have narratives then and aren't just scenes of pure locomotion? Because the narrative adds the combination of *ironic* (double ironic) social processing. All these faculties become fully engaged and the whole brain starts firing up like a lit candle and the man becomes an active creative partner in witnessing a glimpse of infinity. Infinity meaning all possible processing. Theater just simply doesn't have the arsenal to accomplish this. Its aims are different

>>19512205
Filtered by Lynch.

>>19513091
Okay pleb

>>19512219
that's because Bergman was atheist larping as having a faith crisis while Bresson was a based catholic.

>>19513021
Lynch is probably a pretentious Freemason, so I can understand the hatred towards him.

>>19513245
It’s a troll

>>19513259
Just pay attention to the imagery in his films. There is a lot of Masonic stuff in it (e.g., checkered floors). This is also evident in the last few episodes of Twin Peaks, Season 2.
I don't like Lynch that much. I've seen better surreal horror films.

>>19513270
Poppy too!

>>19513075
>instinctual nodes
>neurological rhythm
>sensory thought
Do you have any more bullshit terms up your sleeves?

>>19513091
>>19513074
It is impossible to be filtered by entry-level American flicks. The singing is pointless, he had decades to learn from Mizoguchi's use of Noh I guess he should have went to films instead of film school. It is poorly edited. The singing and sex scenes are too long, this bbc loving cuck could have learned something from Czech New-Wave editing. Just see how Menzel approaches sex in Closely Observed Trains for example. Lynch had decades to learn from the Czech.

>>19513282
stop masturbating and stop watching anime you will realize how every feeling you thought was profound only stemmed from your mind's obsession with sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex that's all you think about in one form or another you are incapable of comprehending "beauty" in any form that isn't sexual at its base kill yourself

>>19513270
You also cannot possibly be more blatant than repeating "the owls are not what they seem" multiple times.

>>19513021
that picture is a few years old, has nothing to do with zoomers just the usual contrarian nature of 4chan

>>19511627
where is kino at

I watched The Seventh Continent because of this thread, and I enjoyed much more than the other Haneke films I've watched. Thanks for the low-effort thread, OP.
As I watched the final scene of the film, these stanzas of a poem by William Empson came to my mind. Maybe some here will enjoy it:

Slowly the poison the whole blood stream fills.
It is not the effort nor the failure tires.
The waste remains, the waste remains and kills.

It is not your system or clear sight that mills
Down small to the consequence a life requires;
Slowly the poison the whole blood stream fills.

>>19513396
(Pic)

>>19514320
Trolls. I don’t care when the term “zoomer” came about.

>>19513270
But it’s a critique of Freemasons and Hollywood raping and sacrificing young women though? The black lodge is not a benign place

>>19514646
The last episode is pretty clear that the Black and White Lodge are one and the same. It is similar to the antinomian views of the Freemasons.

>>19511627
Beating a man to death with a hooligan bar to steal his belt.

>>19511627
Where is the cinerama category? I exclusively watch Cineramas

>>19511633
I watch it all the time. I love it. That whole family is on the same page and totally free. I have to shower right now, so I'm especially in sympathy with their mindset.

>>19512205
This. It's entertaining but I don't get why people think it's some super deep surrealist masterpiece.

>>19512205
>It’s message on the shallowness and seediness of Hollywood is incredibly passé and obvious despite all the surreal shenanigans.
How much do you get paid to embarrass yourself like this?

>>19511627
Classic v Novel v book v idk

>>19511627
the only one of these that's used as a technical term in academia is "cinema", it's the equivalent of the "literarure" honorific for books. "movies" and "film" are used interchangably to refer to the medium, cinema is a subset of movies/film

>>19512193
bait

>>19515212
>idk
Light novel

>>19511677
all four of these are on the sight & sound top 100 iirc. so i'm not sure what's being implied

>>19515286
actually the "cinema" and "film" ones aren't lmao. mastetfully crafted bait

>>19515297
>mastetfully
*masterfully

>>19511647
/thread
>>19511666
>filmfaggot
>calling anyone a pleb
>>19513075
>that post
>calling anyone a pseud

pottery.

>>19513373
Closely Watched Trains is a great film but I don't see how it relates to Mullholand Dr. or why the latter should conform to the standards of the former, which is a completely different genre. And how is it poorly edited? Give examples.

>>19511633
I watched it based on the thread. I had a good idea of where it was going but…shit. It just felt so real.

>>19511633
Watched this because of this thread as well. Jesus christ. You know from the synopsis what will happen but there is something so truly hopeless and irredeemable about how it turns out. Great editing and camera work.

>>19512389

Imagine what a pretentious big piece of steaming turd you need to be to make such generalization and actually believe it.

>>19513075
This is basically the Rick and Morty copypasta but unironic

>>19513091
Lynch is just Neil Breen with a budget

>>19517458
a literal retard wrote this post

>>19513091
Of course the coomer tranny with a scat fetish likes the lesbo film

>>19517568

It's OK, you've got filtered. Just accept it and move on.

>>19512205

I remember my early days as an edgy teenager when I also spouted this nonsense about Lynch's movies and other things I didn't understand or like, because there was this kind of rush about being the only enlightened contrarian in the room (I wasn't the only one, neither are you). But then, one day, I just simply grew up.

Books > movies
That is all

>>19517752
All this seething from lynch fanboys, yet not a single actual argument. Just seething and coping.

>>19514374
>where is kino at
'kino' is just a zoomerized version of the boomer term 'cinematic'.

>>19517775

Mulholland Drive, at least for me, is the closest thing I've seen to a "filmed nightmare".

>>19511627
What film is top right? It looks nice.

>>19514583
Only honest poster so far. i'm going to watch The Seventh Continent tonight anon, cheers

>>19511627
>>19511647
as Wilde says, there are good books and bad books, that's it