/lit/ - Literature

Jordan Peterson's rules are great if you want to be an anxiety ridden basket case that blames oneself for everything. Pretty much the end game of Petersonism is being medicated on Benzos because that is the only way to cope with his reality.

The chad advice is that a lot of things aren't your fault or problem. Other people ARE to blame, and it isn't just about how you react. Simple as that really. This is the diametrical opposite to what Peterson says.

>>19510810
This is getting sad, imagine making a hate thread for someone who doesn't even know you exist. Peterson's haters make him look good by proxy

>>19510859
Imagine shilling for someone who is a fraud.

>>19510810
I HATE JP
>I HATE JP
I HATE JP
>I HATE JP

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>>19510810
To be fair, English (and therefore American) civilisation is individualistic, that's only a small part of the west however.
Also that's basically what they do in the movie lel.

>>19510810
>anon is in his revolting teenage phase when he disobeys his parents out of teenage angst and edginess
listen to your dad, OP. Your room is filthy and your bo stinks

>>19510864
> has academic credentials and he's popping their ideological bubble
JBP being an academic doesn't mean he has sound opinions on everything though lmao, the guy's a psychologist. That's absurd

>>19510810
Is he still relevant? I don't think he needs a hating thread.

>>19510874
The only thing more cringe than edgy pseudo-rebellious teenagers are people that think Jordan Peterson reinvented the wheel by giving people age-old advice
> don't lie.. and uh, make sure you have a job that motivates you
truly groundbreaking stuff

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>>19510867

>>19510827
The correct balance is probably somewhere in between.
We are an empire of children, boomers are the main culprit of the phenomenon, they are outstandingly selfish, and they blame others for all their issues.

If they could ruin the future of their entire lineage for a comfortable life, they would, and in fact, they did.

I'd much rather blame myself for most of my issues, because it builds a strong sense of responsibility, and there is nobelty in trying to solve problems, even if you don't hold the answer yourself.
Now it doesn't have to be miserable and pessimistic, it can be hopeful. You have issues, but you care for yourself, so you will spawn the courage it takes to solve them.

>>19510867
B A S E D

>>19510810
I dislike JP but mostly because I hate philosophy in general. Everyone and anyone is capable of coming up with the same ideas that kant,nietzhe, aristole etc talked about.

On another note I just never understood his appeal but I would rather have people like him than say vaush or sam seder.

>>19510960
No, no they are not capable you know that’s being purposely disingenuous
JP caught on because the modern person is a retard, on drugs
So it all makes sense

I never listened to any of it
If it’s touted by the masses as some new and great thing you know it’s tailored for morons

>>19510966
I remember being in church and thinking about the bigger questions in life and if I can do it then anyone can. Writing it down is another thing.

Modern society exists because atheism took over. JP is similar to the role a pastor would have and the same goes for any guru that is giving life advice.

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>>19510810
For the uninitiated:
https://youtu.be/cU1LhcEh8Ms
https://youtu.be/V2hhrUHSD6o

>>19510899
Honestly, connecting things to UN and CIA and then attaching random bad things to them isn't very convincing. This is just a few steps up from a stint at McDonald's means you're connected to the globohomo elite.

>>19510966
>JP caught on because the modern person is a retard, on drugs
That is true, but it doesn't make Peterson wrong.
We've reached a state of utter disorientation in which Peterson became a phenomenon.
In normal circumstances, Peterson should be nothing more than a person equiped with common sense.

Does it not strike you that Peterson had the role that he had?

>>19510827
>other people
That's how ideology works.
True chads know that they should concern themselves mainly with the mote in their our own eyes.
If you behaved like the man God made you to be it would have more of an impact in the world than trying to mould others though ideology.
”Be who God meant you to be and you will set the world on fire.”St.Catherine
But this is hard, takes virtue, bludgeoning others is easy.

Discard Peterson. Embrace Haidt.

>>19510960

>Vaush

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCjyqziVSMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ena7-7sd0uY
https://youtu.be/obh83qT8qwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKL-GeY1hOw

How many more people need to expose this twat before he stops being posted?

>>19510899
>Bunch of sociologist and psychologists crossed paths at universiteit an governmental organizations
No fucking way. stop the (((press)))

>>19510942
And thats why the left hates him, he genuinely helps people by advocating for self-responsibility and the courage to change the world by starting with ones self. They fucking hate that, they need broken people to vote for them, the more broken people resentful against the world the more useful idiots for their retarded causes.

I love how he makes everyone seethe, especially ideologues from both sides.

>>19511805
jbp is at best a meme populist. why not just read stirner, greeks, and machiavelli instead of some druggie that is only popular for his marketing?

>>19510867
Top commenter could murder Jordan Elfstein with one hand since he’s on so many drugs lol

>>19511386
Vaush is better than JP since he supports causes that will accelerate White racial consciousness(ie BLM) and nuking Israel.

>>19511221
some shop delivered it to me by accident and told me to keep it. it's an alright read. reads better than that 12 rules of life shit, where every rule could be described in just a few pages instead of that biblical and symbolical masturbating that JP loves to do.

besides, nobody that i personally know that read 12 rules of life actually took it to heart genuinely. but that's probably the self-help curse.

>>19512665
Also Vaush attracts people who were already mentally ill while JBP potentially gets young men who have potential and want to improve to become Redditors.

>>19511805
We're not seething at him, we are laughing at his retardation

>>19510827
>The chad advice is that a lot of things aren't your fault or problem. Other people ARE to blame, and it isn't just about how you react. Simple as that really. This is the diametrical opposite to what Peterson says.
Where has he said that every problem in your life is your own fault? I've heard him say otherwise on multiple occasions, one of which being on one of the Weinstein's podcast (the dark horse one, not gonna look up his name atm). In that podcast he talked about the government or some larger entity causing problems, in which case people should fight against it. He emphasizes doing what you can to better your life, but I don't think he's ever said that all the problems in your life are your own doing.

Petersonbros how can we recover?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBw_R6TJt90&t=317s

>>19513019
He already recovered us by saying "that's not what I actually said" in the comments!

>>19510810
How knowledgeable can his guy be if he got addicted to drugs and his excuse was "I was just doing what my doctor told me to do?"

>>19513045
Ahh the "that's not what I actually said" defence! That always works with Father Jordan

>>19510810
Oldschool hand-to-hand combat actually was fought individually btw. Soldiers would form a line and march together, but they would fight their opponents individually once the actual fighting started. Part of why Persians took so many casualties at Thermopylae was because the Spartans occupied a narrow pass that negated the advantage of their enemies' heavy numbers. It wasn't until Xerxes learned of another pass that would allow his soldiera to strike the Spartans in their flank that the battle was truly loss.

Okay, I went down the rabbit hole and watched related vids on this guy. I can't see anything wrong with what he said. Is this just typical pseud seethe?

>>19513470
>is this just typical speud seethe?
I'm not a die-hard Peterson fan, and am sure there are things he's said and/or written that are wrong, but from what I've seen a lot of criticism against him comes from people who simply hate him because he has different views than them. a lot of these people, for whatever reason - whether it be through a simple misunderstanding or willful ignorance - don't even have a solid understanding of what he believes (some anons in this very thread have shown that).

What's there to hate though? He's just a boomer Reaganite/Thatcherite, everyone over the age of 45 more or less is that.

>>19510810
Some of his views I agree with, such as SJWs basically being insufferable. He's got some good ideas on working on oneself, because we can all do a bit more of that.
But he has a hard-on for Jung, which is kind of weird seeing that he is considered an "intellectual" and Jung's ideas are basically all pseudoscience. His religious beliefs tend to clash with his scientific background, so he'll peddle that shit a lot. And his hard-on for "Big 5" personality is also weird. That shit is basically like Myers-Briggs and with way too many shortcomings, just like all personality tests. Steven C. Hayes has a great blog post on why personality tests are bullshit and why how we study personality is deeply flawed (https://stevenchayes.com/the-problem-with-personality/))
He's also a climate change denier, which in today's age is quite frankly embarrassing.

>>19510896
Why are the parents in the top picture? He should be alone playing zelda while the dad lives in a different state and the mom is working.

>>19512617
is this wrong? this footnote? Is it laughably bad, or why are you posting it

>>19513608
Yeah I stopped being a Baconian cultist a while ago as well so I enjoy Jung.

>>19511386
I'm not white so I don't spend a whole lot of time obsessing over being superior but vaush is still worse than JP. But I do hate israel...hmmmmmmmmmm

He was a gateway to classical literature, thinking, values and traditions. He himself did not profess anything beyond typical Conservatism and boomer mindset in a pleasant package with a little self-care.

His Canadian mannerisms, knowledge, confident way of talking of generic Western culture made his message more appealing to hear for a younger audience. Pair this with him being hated by the establishment and the Left allowed him to sky-rocket to fame, finances and success.

What he, and I suspect all his supporters and detractors, failed to realize was that people would keep reading and discover more literature, more ways of thinking. They then synthesized what they found valuable in Peterson's message and combined it with the /pol/-lite reactionary thought that is growing in popularity.

The result is a growing number of people desiring a far stricter hierarchy, a rejection of liberal democracies and its values and above all a deepening interest in their own (European) ethnic interests.

10/10

His ingratiating with comedies also greatly boosted his success.

>>19513704
Embarrassing.

>>19510810
This picture isn't the greatest example to use, given the fact that the 300 were defeated, largely because they all got trapped in one place.

>>19513704
He isn't even right wing he's just not trannypozzed.

>>19513704
>He himself did not profess anything beyond typical Conservatism and boomer mindset

>>19513759
>He isn't even right wing

The US system is a literal shit-show of what is typical Right/Left politics in the world.

>>19513759
He is right-wing on the European left-right scale because left-wing in Europe means socialist/communist and right-wing means liberal and Christian conservative, but in the United States left-wing means social liberal and right-wing means classical liberal e.g Reaganite.

The difference between right and left in the United States is way smaller than in Europe.

>>19513730
They were defeated because they were hugely outnumbered.

>>19513608
>SJWs being insufferable
If you ever need proof that Peterson is a grifter, look no further than his many rants about the evil boogeyman that is the evil SJWs. Just like Marxists he can ascribe anything he doesn't like to them, they are a neverending corkboard for him to stick new and interesting things that people who disagree with him say. If he can't find a way to put in SJWs it's postmawdernists. I remember seeing some video of him fake crying that men are all being labeled as evil monsters. I don't know how people who consider themselves to be intelligent and literate can't see that he's taking them for a ride. He's a sycophant with jargon. Given how many sweeping statements he makes, it really doesn't seem that hard to be a clinical psychologist.

>>19513628
a terribly written repurposing and oversimplification of heideggers idea of being that shouldn't have been in the book
inb4 "but it had to be oversimplified to be mass-marketed"
then he shouldn't have written it in the first place, it makes him sound like an idiot that namedrops smart people to make others think he's smart.

>>19513836
They were defeated before the battle even started, it had nothing to do with numbers and everything to do with politics.
Continuing and funny enough, the Roman army used spread out phalanx formations which allowed cycling troops. Meme maker had to know this was super common so Peterson is, in effect, right.

>>19513793
this mightve been true a couple decades ago. but europe has been becoming more like the US since the thatcher and especially since 2008 every party right of the communists are just neoliberals with sometimes different opinions on immigration. shit blows

>>19513841
Grifter really doesn't work in this context. Jordan Peterson is literally a committed modernist and committed liberal, he doesn't just have these opinions just to make money and will one day let them go if it means he can make more money.

>>19513851
Honestly, I'm not going to argue with this, because you're pretty much right, my take was pretty normie I realize now.

>>19513854
He's definitely a postmodernist at heart, even though he claims to hate them. Clinical psychology is an extremely subjective field, where you'll have five different experts with five different takes on the same thing, and their studies are usually conducted through surveys and self-assessment/interview. He should be embracing postmodernism, because modernists see psychology as a soft science at the very least, and quackery at most.

>>19513866
nta, but does jbp just hate postmodernism that isnt poststructuralism? didn't jung have quite a bit to do with poststructuralism? does he just mean marxists and the social aspects of progressivism? is it just a catch-all to rile up the traditionalists?

>>19513886
He holds all of these opinions depending on who's asking, what political party they support and how many podcasts they consume on an average working week.

I feel nothing but pity toward the generation of 20 year old disillusioned guys who found their surrogate father Peterson through the Joe Rogan podcast or YouTube videos and suddenly found that life made sense in virtue of their fighting an imaginary opponent - the postmodern marxist-feminist tranny.

>>19513866
He's a postmodernist in some sense because he can't let go of Jung's phantasmagoria, but at the end of the day he's a liberal capitalist because "that's what works", in other words, consequentialism defeats all his philosophical musings.

>>19513793
>right-wing means liberal and Christian conservative

No, it doesn't. The Right means hierarchies are valid and useful even necessary. It means strong law and typically nationalist opposed to the international. It is the support of order and the static over chaos and the unknown. It has nothing to do with Christians or Christ, despite how much they bang on about it.

>>19513892
>mfw I used to think "postmodern neo-Marxism" made any sense until I read about what postmodernism and Marxism are
JP is definitely a charlatan who has fooled many. At least he is a stepping stone.

Rent free: The Thread

>>19513917
Wrong anon. Only a powerless minority of right-wingers are nationalists, most right-wingers are supporters of international capitalism.

>>19513944
You should follow this up with the only post you'll make today about how you're above it all, and how the people you're arguing with should grow up and clean their rooms, before you go into another thread and act like the people you're arguing with.

>>19513944
Clean your room faggot.

>>19513954
Salty

>>19513985
>>19513991

>>19513917
nice fetishism but no cigar. most of right wingers would use definitions that are closer to those of neocon and paleocon. you won't be able to reclaim the term "the right" just as traditional leftists won't be able to reclaim "the left". it'd be more useful to better describe a more niche school of thought you are referencing instead of using vague terms that will end up confusing everyone.
using a vastly popular and yet vague term to simply mean nationalistic dogmatism/traditionalism won't achieve much.

>>19513847
The 300 fought the persians, not the romans, retard.
They held the pass to allow the rest of the force to retreat and the greeks ended up winning the war.

>>19510993
I've been thinking about these videos for afew weeks now, and maybe the Marxism and postmodernism that he's going after isn't what you'll find in theory, but what you actually see in practice?
An analogy would be with what Natzis did to Nietzsche is maybe what the woke have done to Marx and Postmodernism, and that's what Peterson's going after?
His cultural critique is still valid but maybe his nomanclature is abit off

>>19513952
>Only a powerless minority of right-wingers are nationalists

We just had Trump as a President, either you're retarded or lying. More people exhibit nationalistic feelings than ever before, we have an entire news-media industry geared towards stomping out any feelings of national or ethnic unity in the West. It is there. But unwelcome on social media.

>>19514023
Nowhere did I say Christians can not be Right-leaning, but the definition stands. Trade and engagement with others does not discount nationalism, surrendering sovereignty in favor of keeping it within is globalism. Having cheap plastic shit made by peasants is not nearly on the same scale, but yet people are becoming very disenfranchised with the economy as it no longer supports their endeavors.

>>19510810
I love Jordan Peterson

>>19514677
Thanks, anon. I love you too. Don't forget to wash your penis.

>>19510810
Holy fuck that was kino.

>>19510887
to be fair, much of the best wisdom was reasoned out a very long time ago and is simply rehashed for modern palettes.

>>19511805
Peterson is a flawed individual but I think the part where he made the Canadian government seethe should score him some points. It's pretty brave to go against a Canadian PM, they have no checks to their power unlike politicians in America

>>19514756
yeah bro not like the conservative party runs a thousand different think tanks that run ads everywhere about how trudeau is the anti-christ

>>19514779
The Conservative Party and the Liberal Party are just theater bro. There's vids of them talking to each other and laughing together, Freeland calls the conservative leader of Ontario "her therapist" who talks to her about how hard it is to help Trudeau lead the government when he is high. Any legit criticism is silenced. The government pays millions to the major news companies every year to under hype scandals which is why you probably don't know about drunk Trudeau groping journalists

>>19510993
Get a load of this commie faggot e celeb who can’t philosophize. Even his voice sounds like a liberal. Sickens me, walking around with his head slumped on campus with Foucault saved on his Kindle. Probably thinks we owe reparations to niggers and that Nietzsche was an egalitarian.

>>19514495
>Nowhere did I say Christians can not be Right-leaning
and i didn't say you said that. my meaning is that no one uses your definition of "the right". whats the use in using a term where 90% of people use a completely different definition? contemporary right wingism is conservatism, anti-'big government', and individualism.
inb4
>"but conservatism isn't the only quality of right wing thought"
you would be right but it is the main school of thought, otherwise i could go on about smaller tenets of right wing thought for hours. saying shit like "anti-chaos" "anti-unknown" is romantic at best, almost every political school of thought would call themselves the true anti-chaos.

>>19510993
>e-celebs
kek no thanks, I've watched enough videos from people like Shaun and Philosophy Tube to know they don't understand anything about economics or finance. Destiny was right to trash them.

>>19510810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmswlWQrTdE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0lFwZvemLc
>>19510867
>Nigga thinks he owns Youtube

>>19513925
Peterson is making an empirical argument, not a logical one. The fact is that postmodern marxists do exist. There are people who reject objective truth and morality and say everything is a social construct, and at the same time are very far left in their politics. A lot of the early postmodernists were Maoists, as Chomsky said in an interview. r/CriticalTheory has Marx, Zizek, and other far left figures, alongside people like Derrida, in their reading list. People like Vaush today are both postmodern and socialist/far-left. Hell, even socialists like Perspective Philosophy called Vaush out for being the postmodern marxist Peterson criticizes. Saying "but postmodern marxist is a contradiction" doesn't change reality.

>>19514955
Honestly this. Literally every poststructuralist/postmodern faggot I've met also wanted to abolish capitalism and private property.

>>19514955
JBP is probably more postmodern than vaush unless vaush reads jung. haven't seen any vaush videos but maps of meaning probably contributes more to postmodernism (even if itself is hardly poststructuralist) than every faggy twitch streamer combined.

>>19515047
Peterson is a modernist, he believes that truth and morality are all objective, and that religious narratives exist. He’s the opposite of a postmodernist.

>>19515079
jbp in his freudian/jungian psychoanalytic mysticism is more postmodern than any of those meme breadtubers who just talk pop-marxism and react to youtube videos all day.

>>19510810
Isn't his wife jewish ethnically kek?

>>19514955
Nobody mentioned postmodern neo-Marxists. The post you replied to mentioned postmodern neo-Marxism. Marxist =/= Marxism. Logical or empirical: there is no postmodern neo-Marxism. As for "Marxist", there is no official Marxist qualification course. A gay white supremacist could call himself a Marxist.

>>19513704
He just made you a shallow pseudointellectual retard. Fuck off this board, you moron.

>>19514884
You're conflating average Republican Party views with a broader range of political movements. Against Big-Government is neither Left, nor Right. It is a talking point, you want big Government here, you don't want it here. Both the US Left and Right are pro Big Government, it's just selective in where to apply it. Right-Wing tends to value the hierarchy and order, it does not matter if it is a theological set of laws or a cold, hard fascist agenda. People need people above them and below them to function in society. The left is the opposite of it. It doesn't boil down to 'muh big government' or 'muh healthcare'. Neither of those are Left or Right.

>>19515332
More people have read classic literature than at any point in the last hundred years. Roughly speaking. With it too have come a number of reactionary beliefs and values. It does not matter if he was a shallow pseud, the point is the results of his talks, his speeches and debates have motivated a great number of people. His current podcast work is uninspired and of little interest people. His views only rarely top 1 million. Only 3 in the last 6 month have done so, and that was because they had very heavy hitting guests on.

>>19515428
> It doesn't boil down to 'muh big government' or 'muh healthcare'. Neither of those are Left or Right.
they are. i would agree with you from a perspective where society actually used left and right to refer to tangible schools of thought instead of a loose pool of contemporary talking points but society as it stands does not abide by your definition. you would be better off using a different term in any discourse as a vast majority of people (purely anecdotal observation, admittedly) would be using a vastly different definition. its not about what it SHOULD mean, its about whats in modern usage. political movements hardly ever have any objective standards and are highly subject to whatever mass media stupidly defines it as.
its degenerated to "socially conservative" and "economically conservative". if you want to talk about a school of thought whose central idea is social/economic stratification, you'd be better off referring to specific authors and not just referring to left/right as egalitarian/stratification. defining a widespread culture using one central idea is a terrible idea, it will inevitably become collated with a bunch of tangential ideas and that will become the rough definition that the masses use.
your definition, whilst better conductive of actual conversation between schools of thought, is utterly useless in any discourse beyond niche networks.

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>>19513892
>imaginary opponent
yeah idk, you seem to come here a lot to seethe

>>19513628
>>19513844

I'm pretty sure it's almost describing the opposite of Being, i.e. Becoming, right?

>Being is also, finally, something that is brought into existence by action

>>19510810
I unironically think that a brain parasite has invaded him and made him a retard.

No way someone with such bad judgement can get even a McDonald's degree.

Especially considering that he is not advocating the leftist fallacies makes it impossible for him to get any degree with this insane amount of retardness.

Just a few example with indirect quotes of Peterson:
>IQ is some genetical mumbo jumbo which has a hard ceiling and is fixed by your genes and at best you can only try to slow the IQ fall with physical training
This is bullshit. To this day there is NOT ONE proof that people have a hard stuck IQ ceiling. There is also NOT ONE proof that you have age restriction in regards to your IQ. Or in Layman's terms: The more you learn, the higher your IQ can get, no matter your age.
To this day there are only assumptions about IQ which were made with test subjects and just biased without any scientifical meaning.
>MUH CLEAN YOUR ROOM
Peterson makes the biggest mistake by focusing on unimportant shit. He should say "LEARN TO READ AND LEARN TO STUDY". Cleaning your room doesn't archive anything for your knowledge and a dirty room is always just a symptom and not a cause of your problems.
>Let me give you some useless life advices
Just read philosophers like Plato or Aurelius and you will realize that Peterson is just plagiarizing (very badly).

Peterson is a literal loser who tries to make a quick buck by grifting retards who aren't reading books.

If you have read Aurelius, you have already much more learnt than Peterson in his whole life.

Remember that if you aren't medical retarded (this means if you don't need a real doctor), you should never listen to retarded grifters with a daughter that is a complete failure.

Peterson in fact proved that he is not able to teach you anything, simply by looking at his daughter. While people were always bitching about Commodus, Commodus did actually a pretty decent job until people wanted to assassinate him. Commodus also knew his restrictions and never wanted to be emperor. On the other hand Peterson wants to tell you how to be successful, while his daughter is literally on a worse "success path" than your average daughter who had unemployed and pretty retarded parents.

>>19516249
Peterson represents the total collapse of the Protestant ethos in its most educated and cultured form
It's literally over for anglo Christians it seems

Jordan Peterson is a Koch crony

ngl tho id still fuck his daughter i reckon shed be real energetic in bed

>>19510867
>sadwoman
based

>>19511036
Ideology works by making you believe you're making your own choices. You literally could not be more wrong.

>>19515428
>It does not matter if he was a shallow pseud, the point is the results of his talks, his speeches and debates have motivated a great number of people.
I'm saying YOU are a shallow pseud. He made you into one. If you're typing out posts like these and are oblivious to the fact that you are possibly the biggest pseud in this thread, you have reached peak irony. You're like a kid wearing his dad's suit jacket, pretending to be an adult.

>>19510880
For leftists it does as their opinions come from academics with credentials. Which as you've correctly said means nothing, but since they control the means through which legitimacy of a position is being defined and just so happen to be big in academia, well what would be the source of a legitimate position on some matter?

>>19513844
>it makes him sound like an idiot that namedrops smart people to make others think he's smart
It portrays him most accurately in that case.

>>19513622
True

>>19510810
Grrrr
Boomer shill

>>19516600
>>19515332
Can you do better than just calling him names? How about you craft an argument against what he said instead of just seething at this anon with impotent rage.

>>19511016
>Peterson should be nothing more than a person equiped with common sense.

this is what makes the illiberal left "progressives", redddddit, and the twatter mob seethe.

>>19516273
>ngl tho id still fuck his daughter i reckon shed be real energetic in bed
same here - all meat diet? I bet she is a crazy fuck

>>19516600
Im a highschool dropout, anon. I dont think you can deny any of what i said in JBPs defense. But top seething. You will never be a woman

>>19510960
>Everyone and anyone is capable of coming up with the same ideas that kant,nietzhe, aristole etc talked about.

You know that joke about Shakespeare that goes "I never got Shakespeare. I mean, it's just one famous saying after another, strung together by an old, moldy plot"

>>19510810
OP's image is retarded. Obviously fully individualized people who aren't naive or unprepared would be willing and able to cooperate during a war. I see this kind of thinking on /pol/ from those who claim its necessary to take a side in the left-right dichotomy.

>>19510810
You don’t have to hate him he is killing himself all on his own.

I do like his crazy daughter though

>>19518341

He probably likes her too, if you know what I mean.

>>19510810
This animation is one of my all time favorite things.

I'm not a hater of JP, I like some of his stuff, but the absurd genius of it is next level.

>>19510810
I've been watching that animation a lot lately. As corny and over-the-top as it is, I think it represents his situation accurately.
I might disagree with his worldview, but the guy is at least an accredited clinical psychologist and a decent stepping stone into existential philosophy.
But he's a cheeky liar who often speaks outside his area of expertise, and allowed his message to be hijacked by demonic neocon anticommunists.
The fame got to his head and led him to start grifting with his stupid-ass dad-for-hire "pay me for life advice" programs, and to warp his message into out-and-out propaganda.

Despite all that, I really think his intentions from the get-go were sincere, making his life a genuine kind of metaphysical tragedy. He tried and he failed. It makes me sad to think about.

>>19510993
Faggot
>erm ackshully because Peterson defines words differently than communist scum his critique is useless
Die

>>19510810
Seriously regret watching him in 2015. All he did was re-enforce the peasant mindset and morality I was receiving at home. All this bullshit about disdain for the extremes and general christcuck advice. He lived in a less suffocating time, ascended a hierarchy that now barely even exists, and urges 20+ year old to buckle down and take the dick for diminishing returns. Peterson is just a roadblock in a great overturning by men who no longer wish to serve a structure which has nothing but disdain for them.

>>19510960
>Everyone and anyone is capable of coming up with the same ideas that kant,nietzhe, aristole etc talked about.

sorry bro it is easy to say p=np in retrospect in regard to ideas, but what you are essentially saying is everyone who is anyone can write beethoven's 9th which is fundamentally stupid

if you are independently able to come up with their idea's that profoundly influenced the civilization's that came after them, then you are able to come with your own idea that will influence the civilizations that come after you, then do it, I will happily evaluate what you came up with.

I think his lectures Personality and Its Transformations are brilliant. His mostly taking from Jung and Campbell, with nothing very original in them, but he's a compelling speaker and they're interesting to listen.

I don't care much about the rest of his work outside academy.

>>19510810
You don't hate!
Only the unloved hate - the unloved and the unnatural!