/lit/ - Literature

>>19512794
Naw. I’m working another Christmas and loathing it. Just working on enjoying my day rn.
Good luck to you, JB.

>>19512908
Aw damn that sucks, if either of my cars worked I'd do some deliveries around Christmas. A bro I know did food delivery last year on Christmas and made $300 in tips in like 4 hours!

Good luck, my man. Hope you have a good christmas

>>19512794
Wrote some notes last night which was my first time writing ANYTHING in over two years due to my day job and some issues at home. Tried to jump back on my laptop today but have no juice whatsoever and am constantly worried my baby will wake up. So rather than use the time she's sleeping, I fret her waking by just watching over her.

>>19512908
what is it with foids and working weekends & holidays?

>>19513046
isn't that tripfag Mexican?

>>19513046
What’s a foid again?

>>19513061
No man, that’s Rei, (cvumgenvs or whatever)

>>19513024
I was able to write a ton when my baby was under 1 year old by doing this:

>1. get a rocking chair
>2. sit in rocking chair and feed baby with a bottle
>3. rock and daydream what you will need to write
>4. baby falls asleep
>5. put baby in bed, go write!

>>19513085
>put baby in bed, go write!
Problem is I usually have to sleep pretty early in order to get to work on time so I'm stuck with only weekends to actually have free time and I get so nervous about her waking up and crying that I can't concentrate.

>>19513080
femme oid

>>19513109
Ah shit, I'm sorry bro... shit is tough. The world does not want organic self-expression, the world instead wants canned art that does not deviate from the script.

While I was working and had ideas, I used the notes app on my phone to write down things when they came to me while working at a pallet yard.

trying to give out some more pdfs of my book to anons who are interested (hmu: nesmer.ogden@gmail.com) and I think I'm going to start my next project today

>>19513110
Ah. Capitalism never sleeps. And we’re supposed to go harder during the holidays. It’s not a sex thing, it’s a capitalist greed thing

>>19513222
Nesmer, are you going to build an author website soon?

I think I need to work on my website, I've been very lazy and never even updated my shit. Also, I'd like to co-operate with you and build a writing support discord that all of our /lit/ author websites link to.

One thing people complain on /lit/ to me about is that they have no idea what The Shitkickers is about and, haha, I actually can understand now because I have no idea what Eggplant is about. Maybe if you write a good intro to your book it will help me figure out how I can write a good intro or summary of mine.

Authors supporting authors...
GO GO GO!

>>19513235
>spends the whole holiday season grinding overtime
>unironically complains about greed
ohkay

>>19512794
Seek help, Jason.

i'm an indie dev not a writer, but i'm catching energy from you dudes. let's fucking gooo. actually, i might write a non-fiction shit of tutorials or something.

>>19513333
>comparing wagies with capitalists

>>19513344
That's awesome! We are becoming higher energy and more positive on /lit/ with every post. Please come back and share your high energy when you can!

Also, check out how the pseuds seethe when authors are helping each other:
>>19513342

>>19513286
I'd like to get a blog type site started to post stories I write and links to my book, and anything else I do.

we should definitely all be in contact. I think we should also all be contributing to &amp, it's a great platform to keep people engaged and keep a discourse going with people who actually read our work.

this is my synopsis on the back of the book. it's a little corny, but I think it manages to sum everything up and sell it quick. and desu, I have no god damn idea where the title came from-- it was just a random filler word I used as a working title and it really stuck with me...

>>19513364
Back in the day we used to have "web rings" of adult sites that you could browse, maybe a similar concept could work for /lit/ authors where we have a director of each others' sites listed on our sites and a little summary of the type of writing and topics we cover. I'm not even sure which chatroom we could all begin to hang out in!

I was using minds.com artist's chat recently, a couple of tranny jannies wanted to ban me but I can still access it for now:

https://chat.minds.com/#/room/#artists:minds.com

>>19513173
I do very much the same. Just finding the time to get the ideas down to more than that is so rough. Haha, surely one day I'll become a millionaire and can lounge around with more time than I know what to do with...

>>19513222
why don't you just post the pdf? i'd like to read it but don't care to share my email with anyone.

if you don't want it publically linked then send me a copy to this temporary email address

wowono9748@slvlog.com

>>19513222
>give out some more pdfs of my book
For input/review or just to get it out there?

>>19513286
>author website soon?
I understand the importance but I hate the necessity. Good luck even getting published with less than 5k twitter followers these days.

>>19513333
Please tell me you're being sarcastic, ironic, or are trolling.

>>19513391
it's worth a shot, of course getting people hooked on books is a lot different than getting people hooked on porn. it might take something more...
>>19513424
I'll send you a copy
>>19513427
I'm definitely interested in peoples thoughts/reactions/critiques, but of course since it's published already all the input will have to be put towards my next project.
I also just kind of want people here, where I spend a lot of my time talking about books, to understand that I'd really like them to give me a shot and read my work.

>>19513487
I read two chapters and skimmed some of the rest. You should hire an editor before you self-publish. For me there is far too much dialogue, that's just not something I tend to enjoy, and the dialogue here seemed to be pointless or meandering. I wasn't keen on the informality that crept into the narrator's voice either, such as the reference to 'shit', as in 'shit like this', or 'other shit'; it felt inconsistent with the rest of the voice. I also would have liked to have just stayed with the one character rather than jumping around. You also misspelt sneer as 'snear', so be careful with spelling.

Normally I don't read as much from anon works as I did with this, and I only bother replying with criticism to things I actually like in some way.

>>19513630
believe me, if I had the money I'd hire an editor yesterday.
and thanks for the honest crit, I appreciate it. if you ever get around to reading more don't hesitate to email me.

>>19513663
have you considered sending out copies to reviewers before you publish? like beta testers? I'm sure you could find people on goodreads who would be happy to help, and having reviewers on your side as you publish could expand your readership.

>>19513663
Build your author website first and we can begin to coordinate the /lit/ writer's guild!

>>19513723
Initially I was getting feedback from /wg/, then signed up with scribophile and some other site whose name I forget. I tried to get some friends to read it but none had the time, and eventually I decided I had to put the thing out and keep moving with new projects— not because it was perfect but because it was done.
If I had time I’d write a 20 page essay on why entertainment media is dogshit and why the only solution for writers is to relentlessly produce material, but I’ll just keep it simple and say that this book is an example of my potential, not my greatest achievements
>>19513783
You’re not wrong man, I’m thinking of setting one up this weekend

>>19513820
Use a cheap ass wordpress host, use a template and you can have your author site up in like an hour!

Should cost like $10!

>>19512794
but i thought Rian Johnson was doing so well

>>19513222
I haven't seen this one yet, what's it about, gimme a QRD

>>19514685
see >>19513364
also there are intertwining storylines, like one about a loner who takes homemade hallucingoenics, and an artists colony where they commit blood-sacrifices

Lose some weight if you're trying to pull off the "starving artist" shtick

>>19512908
I think some of your takes are annoying Butterfly but I'm sorry about the Christmas work. Hope it's an easy day and you have some time to relax afterwards.

>>19514817
That sounds genuinely interesting. I'm gonna email you, anon.

>>19512794
I wrote three critique pieces in college
One professor stole it and Got an academic acknowledgment for it totalling $50k the other two were praised and I actually got nominated for junior writer of the year for one. But. N O writing suckz and people are gay and PLAGIARIZE you

>>19514842
How does that just happen and how did they get away with it?!

>>19512794
Ishygdd

>>19512794

yojr kickstarter isnt up yet you showed a screenshot of someone sending you $200 on kickstarter. how?

>>19514828
butters is an edgy atheist what does she care about christmas?

>>19512794


How much is child support costing you?

>>19512908
What the fuck do you care? You're not Christian and it's a Christian religious festival. It's been perverted, you're perverted, deal with it--its nonbelievers, ego-driven lowlifes like you that gutted it into a commercial husk.

>>19513342
You aren't and never will be human.

>>19515675
>>19515689
You don’t have jobs apparently. Yes, it’s a perversion of a perversion of a holiday and it’s the high holy weeks of a capitalist “holiday” where we spend faster and harder. I am allowed to hate it how I please on the internet.

>>19515764

Sounds like he wasn't banging primo pussy and posting their pictures on 4chan.

https://archive.md/wjXEP

>>19512794

Bring back your old Twitter account

>>19515814
Hahahaha oh noooooo

>>19515814
My last Twitter account is banned for calling Seth Rogen a kike jew for Santa Inc

>>19515814
Who owns the sky?

>>19515882

Make another one

>>19515933

whoever saw it first

>>19515935
Have to get my ebook for The Shitkickers finished first

I have written a lot but I have never had a desire to be an author and every lecture I've done and everything I've ever written I've released onto the internet for free and never made any money.

I don't feel worthy to publish a book either because everything I care about and think about has been explained by some other author with perfect clarity already.

>>19515950
Africans?

>>19516028

whats the ETA on that

>>19516038

Sumerians. Africans don't look up

>>19516078
Africans

>>19515771
What could it possibly mean to you (the Xmas holiday) that you have cause to complain?

Christmas is the most wonderful time of the year.

...wandering around the Christmas market, the city center all adorned with lights; girls with flushed cheeks dressed up all cozy, more stylishly than summer, sometimes you even spot a beret; the excellent and ever-present seasonal songs of Paul McCartney and Mariah Carey, wishing Jews on Twitter a Merry Christmas, getting hammered, going to the mall drunk, buying prezzies, receiving prezzies, putting up decorations... I love Christmas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgjeaeEpSGc

>>19516227
Where should a travelling book merchant stand to sell books to holiday shoppers?

>>19512908
Christmas is a spook.

>>19512794
500 pages into my current book, Jason. Never expected it to go this long. Looking to having it finished and out next year.

Sort of? I've spent today (well some of it, soon to be more) working on a short story. It's frustrating though, because even though it's the art I want to work on at the moment, I need to hurry up and finish a novel so that I can commodify it to earn the right to pursue my craft to its full extent. I want my freedom bros.

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>>19518031
Great work guys... you can do it... just stick with it and don't let the world get you down and crush your dreams.

>>19512794
So that's how you look like

>>19518680
He's a bum

>>19518680
I expected him to be an uptight townie with some mid-2000's "party in the front, business in the back" gel helmet, trying to hide his beer gut with an untucked dress shirt. You know, the sort of guy who would brag about his friend's new Charger.
>>19513391
Yeah I'm thinking if I ever get around to finishing any of my manuscripts, I'll most likely end up hosting it myself or something. Like a cover, chapter links, and then plain text. With a link for purchasing copies. Register a copyright and all that, or however that works. No sense trying to game some system's algorithm so somebody else can squeeze a few extra pennies of advertising revenue.

I was thinking it through, and the current 4chan publishing model is insane. Banner ad, link to Amazon page, open free sample, fuck around with the slow-ass interface, decide if you like it, close out, purchase. As a totally new author that is a lot to ask from a potential customer. I was thinking it through, and I've paid money for physical copies of books that I could read online, just because I prefer it that way. And if I'm willing to invest a week reading it, I'm willing to wait a week, and I don't care if I have to pay ninety-nine cents or ten dollars. And if I take the time to read something, I can't help but express my opinion on it, to anyone who I think might care, even if that's just the author himself.

I'm publishing to 4chan because I think 4chan represents the last bastion of the old web. And in the old web, they knew how to get shit done. Say what you will about Tucker Max or anyone at Rudius Media, he put his money where his mouth was. He knew that if he wanted to step outside of the establishment and make art as an individual, he couldn't expect to be treated like an establishment author, anymore than he could stand on the roadside with a sign that says "Want to cure cancer. Know Jews are hiding secret. Any assistance appreciated" and expect to be given a clinic to practice in.

Worked out for the 50 Shades chick, anyway.

>>19520063
Can confirm more money to be made standing in front of the grocery store than walking around the lakefront!

>>19519860
I prefer "luxury hobo"

>>19512908
Back to your wage cage butterfly

>>19513080
>>19513235
>>19513348
>>19515771
>>19516038
LONDON
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>>19512794
BASED AF

>>19513235
Fuck off butters