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Boards like /tv/, /ic/, and /mu/ all have threads dedicated to classic stuff but most of the boards focus on things made after or a few decades before the 2000s.

>> No.19472226

>>19472219
/tv/ is full of underaged pajeets and netflix marketers
/mu/ is probably even younger on average and most people there are trannies from twitter

absolute dumpsters, both of those boards, no wondrer they consume contemporary mainstream production

>> No.19472258

>>19472219
Film hasn’t been around for very long, meanwhile literature is thousands of years old. So 19th literature is relatively recent in the bigger picture.

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I don't like modern nomenclature.

Last contemporary book i read was White Teeth by Zadie Smith, such a drag. Compare that to Midsummer Nights Dream.

I did like Kazuo Ishiguro The Remains of the Day which is modern but it reads like early 20th century

>> No.19472292

>>19472226
This, but it's also just because those boards, especially /tv/ and /mu/ are focused in the 20th century because that's when they exploded as mediums.

As for literature, that's because recent works rarely (and arguably cannot) prove themselves worthy of recognition decades after their release. Classics are the focus because they've stayed relevant and memorable for one reason: they're really, really fucking good in one way or another. While certainly there is merit and reason to see why Harry Potter is popular, one will have to see where the series is centuries from now. In contrast, we know that the Odyssey is good because, well, we're still reading it.

>> No.19472364

>>19472219
most modern books are inaccesible to most people as they can't read in the language they are written in. classics have translations.

>> No.19472393

>>19472259
what book is this

>> No.19472401

>>19472292
>While certainly there is merit and reason to see why Harry Potter is popular, one will have to see where the series is centuries from now.

Harry Potter has been popular for a quarter of a century already and continues to resonate with younger generations. You literally can't go to any book store without a miniature shrine dedicated to Rowling's children novels. The reality is that there are several classic works are really only "classics" because they were really fucking popular at one point and people cast literary merits upon them just because of that.

That Rowling will be required reading for children in the 22th century is pretty much inevitable.

>> No.19472410

because neo-lit is shit, get it?

>> No.19472476

>>19472219
i think if asuka soryu from NGE was real (like in pic) then she would find myself to be VERY witty and VERY attractive

>> No.19472491

>>19472476
>he can apper witty and attractive to 14-year olds
good going anon

>> No.19472499

>>19472259
I got halfway through white teeth.

Most films suck op and so does a lot of writing.

>> No.19472853

>>19472401
You look me in the eye and tell me Harry Potter is both popular and good. Tolstoy is popular and good, Harry Potter is just popular.

>> No.19473024

>>19472401
Goethe during his times was selling horribly, Kleist was shunned by everyone and Büchners works weren't even printed really. All three nowadays in German literature are much more famous than people like Seume or Vulpius, who were the best-sellers of their time. I don't know how it looks for other countries literatures, but selling well and being read 200 years later doesn't correspond at least in Germany.

>> No.19473943

>>19472219
In the state of post-modern only mass culture can advance, so most of contemporary "high" literature is some boring dumb shit which can't hold a candle to what was being written 100 years ago. And mass literature is just too shallow while also being less enjoyable than mass visual arts.

>> No.19474636

/mu/ is easily one of the worst boards and only worth going to for /classical/

>> No.19474659

>>19474636
also /classical/ is also shit 80% of the time

>> No.19474677

>>19472219
All of the posts above contain some grain of truth, but the real reason is that /lit/ doesn't actually read.

>> No.19474690

>>19473024
The last, qualifying, sentence of this post is so quintessentially German.

>> No.19474879

>>19474690
What?

>> No.19475510

>>19472219
I'm not very familiar with those boards's cultures. Honestly it's an interesting question that deserves a detailed answer, that my slow phone and slower brain can't give you

Besides the fact that there are a lot of books, I think people give some special value to literature. Some anons come here burnt out on modern mass culture, and want to give the classics a try.

>> No.19477045

>>19472258
Also, a lot of things about old film have been obsolete within a few decades. Literature has stayed essentially the same forever.

>> No.19477100

>>19472219
I wonder if it's as simple as time committment. To check out a new music artist only requires a few minutes of your time, a new TV show takes an hour, a film only takes about 2 hours. Whereas an entire book is a bigger committment, so there is greater inertia, when a book becomes regarded as a classic it just keeps selling because it's a safe bet, or at least regarded as still culturally relevant.

>> No.19477172

>>19472219
Because modern literature is mostly garbage

>> No.19477199

>>19477100
This is definitely a big part of it. If I'm recommended a book on /lit/ it can take me months or years to get to actually reading it, whereas I imagine on /mu/ you could immediately listen to and have an opinion on an album.

>> No.19477220

>>19472219
The only people who read contemporary books are journalists who need to review them and women, but there are no (biological) women on 4chan.

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>>19472401
>the twenty-twoth century

>> No.19477293

>>19472219
>>19472259
>>19472364
>>19473943
>>19477172
>>19477220
All of this stuff about only reading the classics and how modern lit is trash only apply to liberal-minded fiction, the soft sciences, political science, and pop history. All of those have definitely declined, mostly do to modern leftists being mostly brainlets and pseuds when compared to oldschool leftists. Subjects leftist writers are disnterested in, like military lit or economic theory, tend to have higher quality assurance.

>> No.19477383

>>19472219
/lit/ was created when /pol/ was the ascendant board, so it was inevitably influenced by /pol/ish thought. If it was made in 08 the average thread would probably be about Warhammer or How To Get Gf horseshit

>> No.19477395

>>19472219
because there's way too much shit out there and now everything is available everywhere all the time

the new can't compete except with low-information voters. Blacks, pajeets, etc. talking about current media is embarrassing and compromising at this point. better to jack off over deep focus in Citizen Kane