/lit/ - Literature

I'm a brainlet so the only things that come to mind are the Apocalypse of St. John, maybe Frankenstein, uhh...I should read

actually Paradife Loft has some pretty spectacular scenes

>>19460844
My diary desu

>the lamb slain from the foundation of the world
Rei with her throat cut

>>19460867
fuck you

Blood music by Greg Bear is really similar to End of Evangelion. It literally has something similar to human instrumentality project

>>19460844
Childhood's End

Evangelion is a blatant rip off of demian.

>>19460867
This.

>>19460857
paradife is a good pick

>>19460867
>Thanksgiving 2021
>today I feel like the Joker

>>19462608
What the fuck how did you get an excerpt

>>19461898
The similarities are small anon, it’s like saying Ulysses is Peep Show because it’s from the lense of two men and their subconscious

>>19462675
Ulysses is like Peep Show

read the bible in its entirety, then rewatch NGE and laugh at how horribly written it is

>>19460844
Neon Genesis Evangelion could be considered the most Nietzschean anime out there, sadly the core concept behind the series is often completely overshadowed by the amazing plot, animation and music throughout the whole thing. Many wrongly think that the Christian symbolism found in the series, ranging from its title to the usage of crucifixes and biblical names, is just there because it may sound cool or interesting.
Christianity is based on the idea of salvation, that the world one day will come to an anticipated end brought by God and that our souls will finally be free from this mundane existence and be united with him for eternity. Evangelion on the other hand had a very similar idea in the form of "The Human Instrumentality Project", that the world one day will come to a manufactured end through the "Third Impact" brought by an almost mythical organization known as "SEELE" and that all the souls will be free from their lonely and painful existence and be united together in complete peace and harmony for eternity. A lot of us know right now that the Christian idea of salvation along with many other aspects of the Abrahamic religions are false, but Evangelion decided to treat the idea as a reality and explore its implications.

>>19463531
t.

After a long eventful plot The Human Instrumentality Project does become a reality through Shinji Ikari, who after experiencing this new mode of purely spiritual existence, sees it for what it is—nihilism. Both in the anime and the original manga Shinji realizes that the real suffering he had to endure throughout his life will always be better than a manufactured reality where no one and nothing exists, where no events good or bad ever occur, where nothingness prevails. Shinji then decides to end the project and return to a destroyed and ravaged world.
In the anime he admits that he doesn't know where happiness lies anymore and then it ends with him facing his own continued suffering in the form of "patheticness" as Asuka puts it, while in the manga he is reborn in a slightly altered reality where the Human Instrumentality Project never existed and then it ends with a monologue by Shinji about how suffering is his only path to achieving anything worthwhile in life.
In the end, through a lot of beautiful Christian symbolism and a magnificent plot, the series followed the Nietzschean concept where there is no deus ex machina, where divine and supernatural salvation are an impossibility, and most importantly, where only man can save himself and turn it into something better and higher through his own work and suffering in this world.

>>19463550
you searched frantically for an image to post without really understanding what i said, and now you just look like a retard.

A book that is genre trash for 90% of it and becomes a psychological existential crisis for the last 10%? A book with a sequel that’s the exact same book but had an editor?

>>19463546
good post

necrobump

Human Instrumentality comes from Cordwainer Smith.

>>19464954
elaborate

>>19464972
on what?

Steppenwolf
I think the ending of the show was influenced by it to some extent,

>>19463546
>salvation is false
NGMI fedora warrior

>>19465009
existence is suffering

>>19465080
asians really are copycats, aren't they?

>>19460844
nothing comes close

>>19463546
Not sure if you came up with that yourself but the comparison between the promise of heaven and the instrumentality project is something I never thought about yet seems so obvious.

Good post anon

>>19460844
How do you pull off a kill em all ending without it feeling cheap?

I've been trying to understand why the end of evangelion was so good

>>19460844
Kirkegaard vs Hegel
in Kirk's dissertation on Socrates.

>>19465670
It's not Christian heaven, its gnostic disgusting almost transhumanist heaven.

Very different things.

>>19460857
In what world is paradise Lost like Evangelion??

Define picrel for those of us who do not watch taiwanese cartoons.

>>19460844
I'm writing it just wait

>>19465088
>asians really are copycats, aren't they?
Hacks pay homage, artists steal

>>19460844

Infinite Jest.

Both take place in a school setting
Both post apocalyptic
Both considered very post modern and ahead of their time when released
Both have main characters who have depression, and abandonment issues brought on by relationships with their father

>>19463531
I think if you read the Bible then you'll see how good Eva is. It is the "new" good news. Not because it says something different from the Bible, but because it shows, again, that God is with us in every person. It is a modern reminder of the death that comes from worship of things that are not God, and love between people is the continuance of God in all people via the Holy Spirit.

>>19466178
IJ is more dystopian than post apocalyptic though

>>19465088
More than you think

>>19465088
every culture steals from one another. star wars has been the biggest thing for 40 years and it was stolen from Asians.

Reminder that evangelion is about returning to the womb.

>>19465088
Most Japanese media doesn't really have a "core," it's a bunch of fragmentary pastiches of western media glued together. Anime is particularly bad, they don't really have a feel for western narrative structures so they just copy fragments to make a kind of anime frankenstein that is vaguely watchable as a westerner but also feels "off" somehow, for example by having a disjointed, stop-and-start plot, or extremely vague and self-contradictory ideas.

Relatively illiterate westerners don't notice this because as long as things are happening it feels like narrative progression. Also, a lot of simply bad anime writing is masked under westerners assuming it's deliberate surrealism.

This mostly goes for anime starting in the 80s, but it really picked up steam in the 90s and anime was totally cancerous by the 2000s. It's basically been machine-generated random cartoon fights and softcore porn since the late 90s.

>>19465928
Basically GR for weebs

>>19467778
it's about rejecting that

>>19465920
I think the interpretation of heaven doesn't mater since Nietzsche would be against both just like how he disliked Platonism due in part due to his transcendentalism which was moreover what Nietzsche was against.

Not to say Nietzsche didn't have his faults, but I think its an apt interpretation of Eva.

>>19465080
holy shit, made me lost all respect for the anime.

>>19466159
i wonder who was karel thole stealing from if this is the case