/lit/ - Literature

Can you trust your sleep dreams?

/Pol/ subhumans will seethe and cope, of course.
;o)

>>19415205
For next time
Write What’s On Your Mind

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>staples center in l.a. to be renamed crypto.com area

lol sports are pure cringe

what the fuck am I supposed to do now that I don't browse 4chan anymore?I didn't think this day would come

>>19415270
Go do something useful. Shew!

>>19415270
i haven't been on an orange board since 4channel became a thing.

>>19415270
You are doomed to become a normie

In five years I will see you on the street and say "holy shit anon is that you?" and we'll get to talking, and an eerie feeling will wash over me that someone has taken your soul, smoothed out all the wrinkles, and put it back in your body to be their zombie normoid slave. I'll be nice to you but I will privately wonder how someone who used to bellow such a fine powerful "nigger" could ever be telling me his ugly wife bought a fondue set and I should "come over some time." I'll never come over. I pity you, but I hate her.

>>19415205
>greeks in the ganges
books on this?

>>19415287
https://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/5081

>>19415296
Many thanks fellow Guénon enjoyer

>>19415278
I live in an apartment and am unemployed, I like the idea though, what else should I do? Bake bread?

>>19415217
About what

>>19415306
i live in an apartment in an urban area and we have a pear tree behind the building that i can walk out on the roof and pluck pears right off the branch when they're ripe.

I fucking suck at writting

>>19415306
I donno man. Dream up something. I’m about to bail out of this again too.
(I don't have any land either)

>>19415306
lift heavy stuff

>>19415306
get hydroponics gear but use it to grow food instead of weed and you can power it with portable solar panels that you can take with you if you move

Is it true that Butters is a 40 year old lesbian Jewess?

>>19415349
50

Rich but not Jewish. Probably one of those "disowned by dad but still receives money from him as long as she stays away from family functions" types.

>>19415345
Not much nutrients in hydroponics. Unless you put it in the water I guess.

>>19415349
It is true that I am over 40, lesbian, but I am not Jewish. I am ex christian

>>19415358
she's not rich, she always used to seethe about having to work in a way only a low wage retail employee could

>>19415368
>I am ex christian
Tu seras bientôt musulmane insha'Llah

>>19415368
Can you shoot things with a gun?

>>19415358
Not yet 50, not rich at all. Brushed homelessness twice in my twenties.
>>19415371
Used to? I have to go to work now.

>>19415374
Atheist

>>19415368
I assumed you were a Jew since you live in NY

>>19415371
My guess is she had to "work" after being estranged from family. Most people who make it their 40s have worked other than odd jobs, have at least something like a career. Butters' occasional bitching about menial work reminds me of a lot of rich kids I've known who "had to" work here and there, not because they really had to but because they were currently telling dad to fuck off and slumming with the plebs for a few years.

Normal people who work out of necessity have a natural hunger and desperation for greater security and finality to their employment, because they aren't just slumming. They naturally burrow their way into something by 40 because no adult can tolerate repeated precarity, it feels immature and embarrassing to have yet another unemployment crisis when you are true working class. Rich people love precarity though, it adds to the LARP. That's why they bartend and DJ until they're 45, while living in an area with $2000 rents for one bedrooms.

>>19415381
oh you seem less bitter i thought maybe you were coasting on pandemic bux for a while

>>19415381
Tout cela ne nous dit pas à quelle sourate tu en es

nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger

What?

nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger

What?
nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger

What?
nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger

What?

How long does it take you guys to read big novels like IJ or TBK? Do you read them quickly or space them out, reading a chapter or so everyday?

Yes, I would like to move to Western Europe.

Nothing fuels me like a big portion of meatballs in brown sauce and mashed potatoes. This dish has been with me as long as I remember. The dish is a perfect example for self development. It’s soft all around, but it’s all there. Warm, gentle and full bodied all the way. The flavours are elegant like kisses shared in front of fire. You know the dish and it knows you. The colours are earthy and humble, yet they tell you your favourite story every time you lay your gaze upon them. The meatballs are rolled by hand, so they don’t lose their unconformity, their differences create interest in them. The sauce is thick, rich and it blends in perfectly with the soft, creamy and mashed potatoes. Butter and milk are essential, no substitute is acceptable. Served as warm as the cheek of your loved one, pressed against yours.

>>19415659
With all novels, I read a minimum of a single chapter per day and any reading beyond that varies depending on the day. Most days, I end up reading more than a more than a single chapter.

> easy job
> still despise it
Somehow, I feel like it reduces me as a person, as a character and who I feel called to be, even though it’s easy.

I watched a 10 minute compilation of Bojack horseman and could immediately tell it was made by a Jew. It's fairly obvious from the tone and sense of humor but I've got to say I'm getting quite good at this.

>>19415734
>Watch TV
>Hey this was made by a jew

That's like shooting turkeys in a barrel.

>>19415270
>looks at the title of the board

hmm...good question...

i like puzzle pirates

>>19413051
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=asmr+its+okay

>>19415659
dont worry about other people. just read at your own pace.

>>19415734
Have you reached the point where you realize 90% of "American" media since the 70s has been Jews airing their highly Jewish neuroses in front of the goyim?

I can't watch that shit anymore, they want to remake the entire world in their own image, they have no problem with reverse engineering whole cultures to remake the same three Woody Allen movies and Seinfeld sitcoms ten billion times. Every sitcom character sounds like the same self-fellating "isn't it crazy how neurotic I am! We Jews are such a colorful people!!" Jew to me now.

>>19415205
I was always a huge proponent of CBT but then I paid out of pocket and did it for almost 2 years and it barely helped with anything. SSRIs didn't help me either. The only thing that makes me feel a little better temporarily is meditation, but within minutes it's back to constant panicking, ruminating and catastrophizing.

I destroy every good opportunity that comes my way by overthinking or quitting before I even start and the shadow of self-loathing follows me everywhere. Every single important life decision I've made has been inspired by fear and I can't think about a single thing I've done in the past for more than a few seconds without wincing; seeing myself on video is pretty much torture.

And even when I have "proof" that I'm normal and not a complete loser, I continue to think that I am one. For instance, a few years ago in college there was a girl that I thought about quite a lot. She was notoriously beautiful and tons of guys wanted her, we knew each other for a few years but she never really took me seriously - and rightfully so because I was awkward and scared of talking to her. Come senior year though our chance encounters became more frequent and escalated into blatant flirting, and then one time she seemed legitimately nervous to talk to me, like she'd been thinking about me. It was like our typical roles had completely reversed. A few nights later she sent me a snapchat asking to come visit her in her room, and I panicked then left her on read. Mid 20s now and I've never dated anyone, I haven't made a friend in years.

Every waking moment feels deeply uncomfortable, like there's something I should be doing. Idk how to stop thinking myself into a corner and start living, and it's getting too late.

>>19415798
what about christians and muslims

>>19415796
Just curious anon

>>19415803
Have you considered that being afraid of everything might be rooted in narcissism?
It's hard to notice this kind of stuff because we're so enveloped in it but maybe you just want to feed your own delusions in order to feel important.
Also do you take meds?

>>19415803
look for actual psychology like analytical, depths or gestalt.

>>19415798
Yeah they do make up a large part of the 'lower' forms (sitcoms, most TV shows) in terms of broadcasting their neurosis. It's sad but if you don't escape (or overindulge) mainstream channels of entertainment in general, you must not be very bright to start with. I agree that the characters are so boring and predictable which is why it was so easy to predict Bojack was made by a Jew EVEN if I had prior knowledge of their huge representation in entertainment.

>>19415798
seinfeld and curb are very funny though. I have noticed that this chess youtuber gothamchess neuroticism is making it very difficult for him at chess tournaments

i have no energy

>>19415205
i am totally and completely alone

>>19415803
you should really quit caffeine if you haven't

>>19416127
stop smoking weed

>>19415734
how?

>>19416201
why?

>>19416214
for how long

>>19415967
Not that guy but vanity has been one of the reasons for my own failures, hesitations, and pain, and I have witnessed it be so with many others.
Resisting suffering because we seem to think we are, or should be, above it.
Until a point of primal, visceral pain which surpasses that of mere humiliation is reached, it's probably not possible to accept this. Speaking from experience.

Waifu: a fictional character that is the object of love indistinguishable from that for another human being.

1) God is a fictional character
2) God is the object of many people's love in a nonromantic sense
3) God is a waifu

Any skill that involves acquiring lots of patterns with no fixed underlying logic or endpoint makes me frustrated in a childish way. This is my third attempt to learn chess in my life and I hate it more every time. I guess there is an underlying logic to chess since it's theoretically solveable by computer, but for humans it is more about learning tons of patterns and getting good at relating and deploying them on the fly. That makes me sick and I want to smash the chessboard over the head of anyone who is good at that. Something about how meaningless it is activates my worst, most unironic retard tantrum autism.

There's no ultimate secret to be unlocked in chess. You are just learning new Beyblade tricks to compete in Beyblade competitions on the playground. I hope just as you're about to send last year's Grand Wizard to the shadow realm and win all the marbles, a truck runs you over. Fuck your stupid meaningless game.

basically i can take a workaholic job and spend literally 12 hours a day on work or more in busy season (plus working the weekends, not even joking) and make mad bank
or i can take a slacker job, make meh money but still save 50% of my income because low cost of living, and have work life balance enough to write novels and fulfil my dreams

i mean. i kinda hate work. bro. hahaha i think... i think i'm gonna take the slacker job AHAHAHAHAHAH oh noooo i won't make six figs oh noooo i wont pay 40% tax rates ooooh i wont have a mental breakdown from stress, i wont lose my hair and go bald by 35. oh no, i have time to have a fulfilling romantic relationship and work on my own hobbies and dreams!

what the fuck is wrong with boomers. and what is wrong with society that they want to make me feel like a failure for taking the slacker path. dude, fuck work. work as little as possible to get by, it's all a monkey game. money isn't even real, it's 0s and 1s on a screen. lay flat.

mandating overtime should be fucking illegal, just hire more people you shit for brain. the work week should be 30 hours.
t. great job offer, don't actually want it. think i'll take the low respect, low pay, low requirements, low hours job and preserve my sanity. i was not born on this rock to get my bank account as high as possible. i am not a slave to my net worth. man fuck this shit. give me work life balance or fuck the hell off.

>>19416306
cope

>>19416328
This is called the London Express Reverso opening, if you do this and flip ALL your opponent's pogs, you win the championship and can have a middling pog strategy channel on youtube with ten thousand other Grand Muftis.

>>19415243
what movie is this from?

>>19415205
Twinks.

>>19416306
Why are you learning a game that you don't enjoy?

>>19415967
I don't take meds, quit after SSRIs didn't do anything.

I've definitely entertained that I'm narcissistic, there's no denying I sometimes write entire paragraphs about myself on the internet, and it's true that I pretty much only think about myself, but I think "narcissistic" is very generic and carries the connotation of being manipulative and mean spirited. I do care about not making others feel bad about themselves though which I'm not sure is narcissistic. It's true though that I have an excessive need for approval and admiration because otherwise I don't think I'd be so scared of rejection, failure, etc.

Is a crippling fear of rejection, failure, and other people narcissistic? You're definitely right that I have some sort of complex going on that makes me feel different from other people, but I am self-aware of my shortcomings and I would love nothing more than to just drop all my insecurities and get on with my life as a "normal" person, I'm just constantly terrified for some reason. Like, when a cute girl takes interest in me, instead of getting excited, this becomes the worst thing in the world for me and I sit there in panic thinking about the next time I'll see her, thinking this will be the time I'll blow it, people will think I'm pathetic, etc. until all those things actually happen. This type of thinking has been the cycle determining my entire life.

Wondering which is the most /lit/ vaccine, any thoughts? I was going to say Moderna, but it just feels too /sci/ and not quite /lit/ enough somehow. Pfizer is mainstream, and the all the others just seem so pleb-tier.

Maybe the real /lit/ vaccine is being unvaccinated? But then we are just the same as /pol/...

I'm starting to understand Hegel slowly but surely. My professor complimented my explanation for chapter 1 of phenomenology of spirit. Feels good bros

>>19415803
Are you an ex "gifted kid" that ended up an underachiever too? Because your post is pretty much me except this one particular.

>>19416466
I'm waiting on Novavax. In a parallel universe where things are normal and normalfags aren't frenzied groupthink enforcers and full-time gaslighters, I would probably have been fine with the mRNA vaccines, but in this world I have to begin from a position of radical doubt because normies literally chop their own kids' dicks off. I don't care how many experts say that the experts are right about what the experts said about the experts, I don't trust these fluoride stare CNN talking heads and their eerie presumptuousness about running my life for me.

>>19416466
It's still /lit/ to be unvaccinated.
What determines which category you fall under depends on why you chose to go without.

>>19416258
A few months.

>>19416466
none you pleb

>>19416466
If you were going to take it (voluntarily) you would have had it already.

>>19416325
Same, have quit my regular job to work part time remotely. Have moved to a third world country that is liveable (better desu), has better weather and and I can still save some money while I work on all the projects I’ve been putting on hold. All the normies I’ve told can’t fathom it.

>>19416460
It's a me-me-me kind of deal that in the end helps your ego feel good and changes nothing if you think about it.

>>19416460
It seems like you’re really struggling, and I’m sorry to hear that. Honestly, I can relate to feeling like an imposter and worrying about failure and rejection.

You mention what happened with this girl in college, when she pursued you and you became anxious and pushed her away. Was this a one time occurrence, or is this something that’s happened to you more than once, with other girls? If it’s a pattern, then perhaps your fear of intimacy is a problem. I know it sounds trite, but remember that in order to meaningfully connect with anyone, you have to have a willingness to be vulnerable. I’ve also struggled with self-sabotage when it comes to relationships, but I’ve learned that people typically respond well to honesty and vulnerability, unless they have unresolved issues themselves. It can be hard to let someone in and risk being hurt, but in my experience, it’s almost always worth it. If there are people in your life that you miss or regret not having pursued, reaching out to them is worth a shot. Why not try, at least? If they don’t reciprocate then you haven’t lost anything. I know it’s easier said than done, though. It can be hard to get out of a cycle of overthinking— some things just take time.

When you mention that you care about not making others feel bad about themselves, what do you mean by that? Do you mean that you don’t go out of your way to be rude and insult people? What kind of situations have you experienced in which you needed to use empathy and avoid hurting someone’s feelings? Narcissists aren’t necessarily sadistic— there are many ways in which our actions can negatively impact others, and this kind of vague disclaimer seems like a possible evasion of responsibility.

>>19415205
>greeks in the ganges
That is what's on my mind right now

>>19416498
thats what i was thinking too.
since im already out of weed i guess i should just start now

>>19416484
Lol, yes. Was told by my parents and grandparents constantly how I'm smarter and more athletic than everyone else. Was always terrified of failure and whenever I did fail I was told it was everyone else's fault.

>>19416521
You're right anon, funnily enough before I saw your reply I reread what I wrote and verbally to myself started saying "ME ME ME, true story. I just don't know how to stop.

>>19416602
Thanks for the kind words. This kind of thing has happened repeatedly throughout my life actually, I've never had a relationship with someone because whenever the feeling seemed mutual I would full blown panic, literally. I'm definitely intimacy phobic and this likely stems from my father who I've never once had a genuine conversation with; he pretty much just used me as a vicarious sports slave, constantly comparing me to other kids, insulting other kids and parents and telling me I'm the best even though I wasn't and didn't even like sports (which sucked up the majority of my youth). Some girls I've thought I was too good for and didn't really treat them with respect when finding out they were into me, while others that I actually wanted I became obsessed over and terrified of.

When I say I don't want to hurt others' feelings, for example I'll argue with someone on Twitter (ikr) and I won't want to personally insult them. Or if I do, I'll regret it, worrying that I genuinely made them feel shitty about themselves. Or also, sometimes I'll be in my room and my dad will just shove the door open, look inside at me, and say nothing then walk out without closing the door and it makes me really mad. I make sure to close the door or leave things how they were after I leave somewhere, and clean up after myself, not litter, etc. I'm totally open to taking responsibility for my actions, but also to the fact that I may be so wrapped up in myself that I don't care about other people.

I hear what you're saying about being vulnerable, but I'm at a point where I panic even talking to close friends now. It's like the weight of my life decisions has crushed me

>>19416466

>>19416725
>This kind of thing has happened repeatedly throughout my life actually, I've never had a relationship with someone because whenever the feeling seemed mutual I would full blown panic, literally. I'm definitely intimacy phobic and this likely stems from my father who I've never once had a genuine conversation with;

Literally me, I only was able to be intimate with one girl and then her mother died and she went crazy and I'm back to rejecting the(sometimes daily) advances of women in every day life. I don't know what the fuck to do.

>>19416306
>>19416433
yeah

did a grandmaster fuck your bitch or something

dont play it if you dont want to

>>19416517
i wouldn't even be doing anythign at extreme, just taking a chill fulltime remote job instead of a workaholic 50+ hour a week in office job. i seriously just... i cant work in an office. its suicide fuel.

i no longer care about material posessions at all. i'll buy a shitty 1 bd apartment and chill. i pirate all my books and never go out so what do i need to work myself to death for? retirement is a laugh, the stock market is rigged and inflation will kill your savings. just lay flat.
why did it ever get to be the common social expectation to work yourself to death in an office job?

>>19416767
>my hobby is being fourth rate at a game that isn't even skill-based at the highest levels
>let me read more books and watch more videos so I can maybe one day break 1500 and still lose to thousands of idiot savants

Hahahahahaha

>>19416306
All the patterns in chess have a fixed underlying logic. It's not like you just recreate patterns and magically win. Everything you do (when you advance beyond shitter level, which you never will) has a purpose and a strategic logic behind it.

>>19415304
pbuh

>>19415803
>>19416484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq32ZIz1EBE

A common issue among smart people. The first step is recognizing the pattern

>>19415306
how are you paying for an apartment while unemployed

>>19416797
Unfortunately you couldn't detect the underlying logic of the distinction in my post between a single, unitary logic and the many overlapping and adventitiously interacting patterns that chess masters actually use. You don't have the critical thinking skills to be a good chess player and shouldn't comment on the game.

>>19416725

dude ur gonna make me cry

>>19416828
Unfortunately I'm in the top 10% of world competitive players and you are a shitter. Cope

>>19416848
My brother, who lives with me and is my best friend, is in the top 3% and he says he can tell just by your posts that you're too retarded to be competitive. He's telling me to call you a fraud and a faggot.

>>19416792
i just do chess puzzles for funsies

>>19416865
Fake and cringe. Keep seething; you will never be a WFM.

>>19416878
You think my brother is fake?! Are you seriously going to post "fake and cringe" in response to my serious post about my brother? I take it back, your genius radiates from your posts, and I can tell you must be a chess master. It's you, isn't it Bobby?

>>19416868
That's alright, my bro (top 3% competitive in the world) says that's cool.

I just want to capture stunning beauty and help it resonate inside people's souls. But i'm so rotten from inside. Black pus in my heart. I don't know what to do.

>>19416908
>You think my brother is fake?!
yes, because anyone in top 3% is titled and would never give their percentile; they'd just say "I'm an IM" or whatever the title is. Especially if they were trying to btfo someone talking about chess on the internet. You are most likely sub 1200 elo online and more than likely desperately coping

Check this shit out. Multiple people got paid for this: the writer, illustrator, editor, and reader (if not the author himself).
https://www.wsj.com/articles/hi-im-a-leaf-blower-everybody-hates-me-11636728145
What a gay article.

>>19416908
>>19416865
>>19416828
>>19416306

>>>/tg/82213548
mad cuz bad

>>19416973
I am not clicking fuck you.

>>19416981
Have an archived link.
https://archive.vn/2021.11.12-162656/https://www.wsj.com/articles/hi-im-a-leaf-blower-everybody-hates-me-11636728145

were souls first created without the plan of the physical body? what if what we are as humans and animals today was something that God had just begun playing with further down the line?

>>19415368
wtf over 40? i always thought you were early twenties...i guess it explains why are you well read

After a long day of draining work I sure love to sit and endure the loneliness for several hours until I can sleep and wake up and do it over again tomorrow.

>>19416935
You weren't supposed to answer the second redundant layer of sarcasm with another serious response. I was considering doing a "SET UP A GAME THEN BITCH" thing and seeing if I could get you reply back five times going "Are you joining? Are you joining?" while I said "Yes I'll be right there" but I feel too bad to manipulate what I think might be genuine humorless autism

>>19416978
Yeah that was the original self-deprecating joke I was making, the other guy is full blown autistic but I was just hoping you'd get the memo and stop replying really boring "um? ok?" "??? ok?? so stop playing if u dont like it??" to what were obviously joke posts

So what's the difference between a public university, a private one, and a private Catholic one?

How do they differ?

>>19415205
thats not where scythia is

>>19416918
When you squeeze a pimple, the puss comes out first, then the blood. So squeeze out your black puss until you get to the red blood.

>>19417033
>i was only pretending to be retarded

>>19416813
Good watch, surprisingly insightful. Thanks anon. Coincidentally, now that I'm a NEET from giving up on everything and avoiding everything my grandfather always says "If [my 6th grade teacher] saw me now he'd be disappointed."

dudes i really need to go fucking back
ITS NOT FUNNY ANY MORE!

> remember my 2 year weeb phase
> remember that I didn’t keep it private and my family remembers it too

I'm a musician. I'm planning a big one off show. The people I've recruited are talented, but have cringe taste and the songs they want to play should never have been written in the first place.

I want to increase the coolness (light show, choir, more complex and interesting songs/performance), but they're so resistant to actually being good out of fear of "not playing the popular stuff". I tried explaining that if you're good and entertaining enough, people won't care as long as you're not toooooo out there (which is not what I want to do).

Having a creative vision you have to share with others democratically is like pulling teeth.

it's summertime here at George and I have just abandoned everyone. We'll see if they take me back once the summer is over. hot night, smell the asphalt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekEGo8A-RI

>>19417774
oh I forgot to mention: she is almost certainly a complete idiot. she hung around with me for a while, and I didn't notice, and that makes me a complete idiot, and I don't think she noticed.

>>19415205
every day i praise heavens for not making me gay. i couldn't think of a worse thing than being gay, except for being a tranny.

Garreth's Life Part 3

"Just what is it that you are doing here?" asked the prostitute.
"I'm just wandering around." said Garreth
"But why?"
"It's none of your business and you best not snitch on me!"
"Do you have anywhere you can go?"
The prostitute looked at Garreth with his bandage over his head.
"Honey, you don't belong in the streets. Now I have to let you go before sugar daddy shows up."
"Whose Sugar Daddy?" asked Garreth.
The door was slammed opened.
"Beth did you make any money?!" said Sugar Daddy.
"Uhh... Yes... Sort of."
"Bitch don't sass with me! And who the fuck is this skinny ass motherfucker!" said Sugar Daddy.
Garreth looked at the man and it was a pimp for sure. The pimp looked very tired too.
"Well did you fuck him?" said the pimp.
"No I did not! I just gave him a bed to sleep in for the night." said Beth.
"I don't know do you want to have some fun with her? Kinky shit too? Just give me $200 and she'll go sucky suck on ya." said Sugar Daddy.
"Daddy, he's a teenager." said Beth.
"Oh, well I don't mind it at all. I got a girl in middle school whose screwing guys in their 40's. I don't mind one bit." said Sugar Daddy.
Beth scowled at Sugar Daddy.
"That's all illegal and sort of wrong." said Garreth.
"Shut the fuck up kid! I'm running a business here! Now get out of here before I pop your ass with my 9mm!" said Sugar Daddy.
"Garreth leave now." said Beth.
"How'd you know my name?" said Garreth.
"I looked at your identification while you were sleeping. Now leave." said Beth.
Garreth left the small apartment he walked downstairs and saw a guy smoking crack and the dinginess of the entire building. There was a group of gang members beating up a rival gang member outside in the parking lot. Garreth pulled out his wallet and found Beth's phone number on a piece of paper in his wallet. Garreth walked into the sidewalk of the streets. He found a trash bin outside of a Subway and digged through it. He found a perfectly good half Subway sandwich in there and he ate it and moved on.

what does it say when i go to youtube to watch a young dolph song and the first page is just people commenting on his death. he doesn't have one hit that could be at the top at least?

>>19417879
what

>>19416766
The women you’re rejecting— are they women who you are attracted to and could see yourself potentially being with? It’s natural to want to avoid intimacy with women who you don’t find attractive or interesting, or who have bad morals and lack character. That’s just common sense. It only becomes a problem if you find yourself rejecting the advances of someone who you would actually want to be with if you weren’t so afraid.

>>19417048
They don’t coz they’re all pozzed. E Michael Jones got fired from a Catholic university in the 70s for his stance on abortion (he was against it).

>Mods delete a second thread of write what's on your mind if its made
>Allow /sffg/ to have two threads
What is this bullshit?

>>19418123
>Allow /sffg/ to have two threads
as long as they're kept in their containment zone i really don't care. they do a good job of keeping to one thread and not shitting the place up. good for them.

>>19418123
>The one thread with the broken spaceship or whatever is lively with discussion.
>The second one with Bakker is dead as fuck.
Jannies went on a pruning session yesterday I wonder why they didn’t delete the second thread.

I have always admired sculpture which manages to realistically portray clothing and how it folds and hangs onto a person's body. I am not a sculptor myself but I imagine it is a very mentally complex task to imagine the folds, chart them onto a stone, and carve them out.

>>19418050
Not him but I have a girlfriend who is basically perfect and the more feelings she has for me the less I have. It's like, why should anyone love me when I don't even love myself?
Some of us were just meant to be forever alone I guess.

>>19418050
>The women you’re rejecting— are they women who you are attracted to and could see yourself potentially being with? It’s natural to want to avoid intimacy with women who you don’t find attractive or interesting, or who have bad morals and lack character.

I don't know about their character, I rarely let it get far enough to even get to know these people. Physically attractive? Enough of them for sure.

The one girlfriend I had, we were together for almost 3 years, only ended up becoming my girlfriend because she wouldn't leave me alone funny enough. A friend of my friend's girlfriend. Met her once because he had to drop them off somewhere and nearly every time we hung out after that he made it a point to bring them both along. She wouldn't let me push her away. I don't know why I push women away.

I have healthy relationships with men. I don't know why I can't even attempt the same with women and when I think about it or try to understand it I freeze up. I'm completely overwhelmed by this feeling, this something. I don't know how to explain it because it isn't a normal emotion, it just consumes me. Not exactly panic, not exactly fear. The only thing I can compare it to is the kind of suffocation or feeling of being overwhelmed I experienced when I started meditating a few years ago. When I was first trying to wade through my psyche.

had to put my dog to sleep today, she nearly made it 12 years but couldn't recover after getting really sick. Lot of people told me that's why they don't get dogs, but honestly the memories were worth it.

Texting him again after six months was such a terrible idea, and I feel so guilty and ashamed that I actually allowed myself to do it. It’s been three days since I sent it, and he hasn’t replied, so I think he’s just going to ignore me. He obviously wants nothing to do with me ever again, and honestly, fair enough. I don’t know what else I expected. I’m not even upset with him: I’m upset with myself. Why the fuck did I think it was a good idea to embarrass myself further by giving him the opportunity to turn me down a second time?

I guess I just have to try to focus on other things and hopefully I’ll start to feel less bad about it eventually. I’m trying to tell myself that it’s okay to make mistakes, and use the whole thing as a learning experience.

But did I actually learn anything? Obviously I already had trust issues, but now I worry that every man who shows interest in me is just faking it because he’s bored, has nothing better to do, and likes the attention. And all the time I wonder: what’s wrong with me? Am I too much? Do I push people away? Am I just that unattractive and undesirable? Am I hopelessly boring and unfunny and neurotic? Do I come across as transparently naive and inexperienced? Even after getting coldly rejected, I kept coming back for more— do I really have that little dignity and self respect? Rationally I know that I’ve built up an idea of him in my head that doesn’t correspond to reality, so why do I still miss him?

Here’s the thing: I don’t actually know what’s going on in his life or what he thinks of me, and I never will. I try to empathize with him and tell myself that he has his own personal circumstances to deal with that probably influence his choices. For all I know, I didn’t even do anything wrong— I got the sense that he wasn’t over whatever happened with his former friend that he kept talking about, so it’s possible that that has something to do with it. But it’s no use speculating, so whatever…

I can’t explain it— the thought of being discarded again just stings. I suppose I asked for it, so I have no one but myself to blame. I’m trying to tell myself that, whatever it was that I thought we had, it’s over for good. But then I keep thinking, who knows what might happen in the future?

>>19416466
Sputnik V of course.

>>19416342
Reverse image search IDs it as some viking art.
Looks kind of like Faroe

>>19416486
i was talking to someone from egypt about female genital mutilation practices the other day and in the back of my mind thinking parents and school bureacrats pushing kids to get their tits and dicks lopped off aren't any better

Sudden urge to look at my ex's nudes. But I will resist.

>>19418584
too gay; didn't read

>>19418654
ya i don't get how gay dudes can ever get emotional about each other. hooking up with gay dudes has to be one of the easiest things you can do in life. if one dude ghosted you who gives a shit there's like a million horny dudes in the city and half of them have more money than you so it's not even like it's worth weeping over that one guy who had really dank bud and wanted to take you to berlin. you can never exhaust the supply of horny gay dudes with disposable income.

>>19418661
>>19418654
I’m not a gay man— I’m a woman, funnily enough. I never hooked up with him, and money didn’t enter the equation. It wasn’t about that.

When parents look at their kids, do they involuntarily think about the sex that got their child conceived? How long does this last?

>>19418694
>I’m a woman
ok

>>19418694
Want to text me instead?

>>19418710
There are women on the internet, anon.

>>19418695
*Addendum

"That's Todd, my 4 year old"
>sweaty overweight husband grunting his semen into his wife with her legs splayed and her bare ass cheeks on the dirty bathroom counter top, yelping "oh god" over and over again while thinking about her college boyfriend

>>19416764
My thoughts on vaccination:
>It protects us from the virus
I am safe
>It was a trap meant to harm us
I die, content with the knowledge /pol/ will win in the end.

Despite it being a long time ago, I still vividly remember the time when a random person on a forum referred to me as a "real being of light" in an exchange. Now the real question is whether it's haunting me out of deeply rooted sense of narcissism/self-absorption, or if it is a stunning statement detached from any relation to my own character whatsoever.
I'm fucked in the head. I need to get help and get this narcissistic voice removed from my brain.

>>19418802
You’re not fucked in the head, anon. If you worry about whether you might be a narcissist, that’s probably a good sign that you’re not one.

>>19418796
i really dont care if someone gets the jab. i think they're shoddy and harmful to health, to a lethal level, but I believe in having a free country. What I am not down for is people who are ostensibly protected (the vaccinated) trying to demand that other people also take the vaccine. if you're vaccinated then why do you care what someone else does, if you're already protected? it's anathema to basic human rights and liberty to be forced into a medical procedure you don't want just to appease someone else for flimsy reasoning. If vaccines work (and if they don't why would we distribute them, begging the question), if they work, why does everyone else also need to take them? makes no sense. you could say, it MIGHT find host in the unvaccinated and produce variants. that's flimsy reasoning and not adequate justification for the state violation of basic bodily autonomy of citizens who are protected by the Constitution. to produce variants, the virus would need such a level of survivability (if you die the virus does not spread nor mutate any further than that) which precludes mandates being reasonable. if the protection offered by vaccinations is so narrow as to be rendered useless by the slightest mutation, this precludes the vaccines being of sufficient qualtiy to justify a mandate.

There just is not justification for mandatory vaccination. If you want the vaccine, take it, I don't care. What I do take offense to is the notion of any mandate, especially in the face of legitimate safety concerns, let alone justified necessity. There is a distinct dearth of data proving corona is lethal enough to justify a mandate. There is a suppression of data about side effects and harm to health and life from the vaccines, disqualifying all trust and credence of the medical establishment thereinvolved. The data on its effectiveness is disappointing at best, and the vaccinated may, as data is beginning to show, be WORSE off even after adjusting for age groups.

Really no tenet of a mandate holds up to basic scrutiny. I'd go as far to say the vaccinations are total bunk. If you want it go take it, but I feel the same way about meth and crack. lassaiz faire. It's a free country, imbibe whatever poison you want, but I am not taking the jab and I will die on that hill.

>>19418915
Go post your boomer-tier anti vaccine bullshit on Facebook or Reddit where it belongs. No one here gives a fuck.

>>19418929
did you fucking read it? that's basic legalism argumentation.

>>19418915
I agree that mandates are uncomfortably authoritarian, but on the other hand we have vaccine mandates for other things. In my state you can't go to public school (K-12 or university) if you don't get your flu vaccine or any of the many vaccines for whooping cough, measles, etc. Perhaps it's always been a thing we just have to accept.

I think of myself as a drug addict. I think I am a drug addicted person. I am a drug addicted person.
I'm a drug addict.
I am a person who is addicted to drugs.
I am a person who is addicted to Marijuana and Tabaco.
The days where I smoke I become a lazy, self-indulgent moron who awaits for the day to end.
I am a drug addict.
I am a day waster.
I'm a mindless self-indulgent person.

>>19418952
mandatory vaccination is something that works until it doesn't. and when it doesn't you've just found out you injected a critically toxic substance into nearly your entire population and are in for an extinction level event. it's fucking bloody STUPID. it's putting all of your eggs in one basket. all it takes is one batch of these mandatory vaccines to be corrupted, out of incompetence, circumstance, or malevolence, and that's it, 99.9% of your population is dead.

reminds me of the banana monoculture's rather steep, singular decline. all bananas of that variety were wiped out. we should learn from general scientific principles and not do one single thing to any 100% population group. because holy fuck is it bloody stupid.

even if it were something basic, like, "100% of the population is mandated to eat spinach from this given spinach farm every year", eventually that farm will be compromised and you just fed e.coli laced spinach to literally your entire population. i really think we need to sit down and think about things for five seconds in terms of risk management of the human species.

>>19418981
Settle down there, Alex Jones.

>>19418952
how the fuck are they authoritarian? who is being authoritarian in this case? inb4 cope about da jooz

>>19418998
The governments of the United States and other Western nations. No one in the entire convo mentioned Jews.

>>19419004
to what end? why vaccines?

>>19418991
great rebuttal
you dont even have a counter argument. just "listen to the TV, the arbiter of truth." a sure great intellectual you are, yeah?

>>19415205
Death is the final unknown

>>19419010
Population reduction, if I had to guess. Fastest way of solving global warming is lowering consumption, and the fastest way to lower consumption is to kill off the most voracious consumers, ie. Westerners.

>>19419010
i posted one argument from the point of legalism and one argument from the point of risk management principles.

what did you post? nothing. what is /pol/ about that? who mentioned jews until you did? nothing was even stated from a malice assumption theory. you blindly lashed out at any criticism no matter how valid or reasonable of The Party's Sanctioned Dogma.

go lick a floor.

>>19419012
I don’t own a TV. I hope that the vaccine kills me— what do I have to look forward to anyway? Climate change? I have no interest in presenting a counter argument— I’m just sick of the vaccine discourse and want you to get the fuck out of this thread.

>>19419025
NOOO IT'S WRONGTHINK YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT SUBJECT NOOOOO TWITTER TOLD ME TO BE OFFENDED
blow it out your arse.

>>19419021
if you had to guess?
>>19419023
what Party?

anti-vaxxers complain about not giving into fear, but the fact is they just want to turn people into uncritical morons who're stuck in the same circular reactionary thought loops so they're more easily hoodwinked into bourgeois politics. fact

I'm considering reading pic related but idk if I want to commit to a 4 book series
I'm only interested in the period because of timothee chalamet desu

>>19419034
Stop acting like I’m trying to censor you, retard. You’re not oppressed. You can think and say whatever you like— I just have no interest in engaging with your unhinged lunatic ravings. Why don’t you go read Atlas Shrugged or something?

>>19419038
>if you had to guess?
If the vaccine was nefarious, that's what I think the motive behind it would be. Like I said earlier, I got the vaccine, so I don't think it's nefarious.

>they just want to turn people into uncritical morons who're stuck in the same circular reactionary thought loops so they're more easily hoodwinked into bourgeois politics. fact
Class reductionists belong in camps.

Im too bland to be romanticaly interesting to girls. I been working with a guy whos a natural smoothtalker and a flirt so I've realized that this style is not natural to me. It doesnt flow naturally. Oh well, I guess that somewhat explains me being a wizard.

>>19419052
>Class reductionists belong in camps.
and the mask comes off

>>19419063
What mask? I never said I was a leftist.

>>19419045
that shit does look comfy as hell tho

We live and die in hope

Did a lot of reflecting today and I've decided that since I'm out of weed I'm going to be quitting for an indefinite amount of time. Now I know what you're probably thinking: "Ahhh he's gonna be smoking again next week, there's no way he can stop!". But no, I'm serious. I'm done, I'm tired of this, I'm tired of turning off all the time, I'm tired of being the xi jinping of weed smoking, It's over. The longest I've ever gone is 28 days. Fuck that. I'm gonna do longer. I need to stop this while I still can.
https://youtu.be/WYCULklXXao

>>19417878
I have been enjoying these Zach. Please keep making them.

i wonder if an acid trip is the solution to my mood problems

>>19419215
good luck fella

>>19419215
Be The Xi Jinping of Quitting Weed

I just relaized that no matter what you post on this board it is always *by definition* on topic
I feel weird now like my feet have grown careless to the spruce needles in my socks

https://youtu.be/YRzlH3WAcg8

>>19419237
Oh, I’ve been hearing about micro-dosing Psilocybin helping with that. Do that.

>>19419261
no im gonna hypothetically use some grey market analog like 1P or something, in roblox. too lazy to look for shrooms

>>19419267
and not microdose. just have a nice trip looking at flowers and basking in the sun, though it's winter now so can't do that for a few months i guess

>>19419267
You’re gonna have a bad time.
>>19419272
Yeah. I think I’ll go with a full dose of it. Not really fighting depression.

>>19419297
i havent had a problem with 1P, it's basically the same as the real thing
>since LSD is detected when 1P-LSD is incubated in human serum, 1P-LSD acts, at least in part, as a prodrug for LSD.

I flew above the world on Salvia

I'm really disappointed that I'm a midwit, not sure if I want to continue

>>19419334
you know it's just a meme, right

>>19419338
and the fact that I fell for it doesn't work in my favor

>>19418584
women are subhuman

>>19419334
Ever see the Jimmy Stewart movie Harvey?

>>19419349
No, you.

white nationalism, fascism, conservatism, etc are all liberal-egalitarian ideology in disguise

>>19419349

>>19415205
It is not bad. Let them play.
Let the guns bark and the bombing-plane
Speak his prodigious blasphemies.
It is not bad, it is high time,
Stark violence is still the sire of all the world’s values.

What but the wolf’s tooth whittled so fine
The fleet limbs of the antelope?
What but fear winged the birds, and hunger
Jewelled with such eyes the great goshawk’s head?
Violence has been the sire of all the world’s values.

Who would remember Helen’s face
Lacking the terrible halo of spears?
Who formed Christ but Herod and Caesar,
The cruel and bloody victories of Caesar?
Violence, the bloody sire of all the world’s values.

Never weep, let them play,
Old violence is not too old to beget new values.

>>19418720
You're not one of them.

>>19419621
You don’t get to decide such things

>>19418710
I'm also a woman (without dick)

Anyway. Everyone is a woman ITT am I right besties

picrel is a hack who stifled MJ’s creativity
https://youtu.be/eAyqMJam1D0
>>19419674
yea x

pause LMAO https://youtu.be/qC8O2X9L0Zw

Got a new job and I hate it and want to quit after three weeks.
It made me realise there’s a million things I need to improve about myself, yet it doesn’t give me the time to.
Life sux.

>>19415205
I never expected things to be the way they are today but it's not necessarily a bad thing. I've only grown stronger, both mentally and physically. I'm living everyday like it's going to be my last and I only have so few regrets in my life. I've learned a lot in my 27 years on this earth and i've put that knowledge to the test and helped where I can, always. I aspired to be a role model for my community and I have a family history of tradition that's marked their place in history at the local museum, in books, and the local paper. I only wish that the people I love get a future where they and their children will be safe from the encroaching decay of the modern world. It's not going to get better. And it will be a long slow process of destruction.

>>19416478
Its easy AF if youre not a midwit:
>Mind is the fundamental element of life
>Mind creates itself by contradiction
>"a cat has 4 legs, how then does mine have 3 legs, your concept of cat has to expand to something that can include both things"
The more developed the mind of any person, institution, nation etc the more powerful, thus >developed minds always end up on top in an evolutionary landscape
>Contradictions are to be solved, thus since the enlightenment we are moving towards a place of no contradiction, Marx thought this was communism.

>>19415205
Just finished Between Two Fires last night and it made me cry. Now my heart is heavy and I don't know what to read next. I'm thinking Moby Dick.

Daily reminder that there's a lull in philosophical and scientific (specifically physics and cosmology) advancement due to the slanderous coverage of UFO sightings over the last few decades. Yes the next leap will come with the help of other worldly beings and what's wrong with that? We're all "le universe perceiving itself" so let's figure this shit out. We'll probably teach them about water or some basic shit.

I wish I was high but I'm a loser living with family and I don't want them to witness and nobody fucking sleeps through the night. Not blaming anybody but myself (specifically my predeterministic life story).

I really have this desire to remove myself from all of social media.

I wish I'd have a light schizophrenia to see world in a different light. Sadly, Im just a neurotic who blocks the impulses and restrains himself.

>>19416813
Thanks for posting this. Great channel. I just watched this other video of it. If someone had sent me this video a year ago it would have saved me so much pain.
https://youtu.be/tvpDLpCf1jU

>>19419670
so u finally got the surgery huh?

How adult men make good, deep friendships today. I have none, not really. I have brothers. We’re not particularly close. Well, we are but in that brotherly way where we don’t really talk unless we have to. Besides them, I don’t really have any friends.

>>19420622
only hardships create lasting friendships

>>19420622
all my friends are chicks, being friends with a dude seems kinda gay

>>19418915
>There just is not justification for mandatory vaccination

there is because the virus can be spread to others you selfish fuck

>>19419061
then read books motherfucker and learn how to be interesting

where do you think you are

there's books on how to socialize

there's books on loads of different topics to come up with interesting conversations

there's movies and shows and cartoons that can give you a lot of fun ideas for improvisation and roleplay

do something

>>19419334
most of society are midwits

what you should be more worried about is being a lazy fuck which you can change but it requires effort

>>19420622
give personal thoughts

ask personal questions

look at my i'm flyinggggggg

we're all butterflies inside

what is the youtube name of the ponytail nigga that has lecture seires on various philosophers?

>>19415345
>>19415345
>you can power it with portable solar panels
Industrial society and it's consequences.

>>19420844
but the vaccines don't stop the spread just the severity of the illness

>>19420967
the guy with the daughter (male)? man shit, i forgot gregory sanders maybe?

An alphabetic hermestrismetricus Poem

Bade I blithe by boundless benevolence
Not made nine mooned nightmare malevolence?
Tread i through the transient territories,
Ere err clay-cracked earthen categories.

Ideal dimpled idol devils in death,
Beguiled glory begot gilded ghost’s breath,
Philter-phlogist pouring pyric plumes pales
Stele stellar sirens psalter sod scales.

Quiet yogis yelling quatrains yonder
Wherewith kindly kindred weolcans wander,
Hellish howling rapture-ravens raveth!
Xuánxué-xeper-zhīyán-zìrán-zenith!

Ouran’s jewel joins our orchard’s journey,
Fecund fountain fills from fanaa-fury,
Ursa utters veiled verse umbrage-virgin;
“Allah’s angel awed and attained ain.”

>>19421026
Don’t care, give me my booster shot ASAP

>>19421037
Gregory B. Sadler
thanks anon, does he really have a trooned out son?

>>19421063
idk never watched him t b h but thats what somebody posted in a thread about him

>>19416460
Read Waiting for God bro

>>19416225
>exacerbates anxiety
>makes you overthink
>increases rumination and circular thinking
>increases stress which leads to fatigue, and makes you crave substances that relieve stress like alcohol, weed, etc
>makes you more tired, interferes with sleep which increases tiredness and fatigue
>makes you crave sugar
>causes intestinal issues and nutrient malabsorption
>being dependent on a substance to function sucks

been free from it since september 2017. feels good.

>Be me
>Look at Rolls-Royce cars online
>So beautiful, I want one
>Check price
Bros wtf :(

>>19420941
Cock is one of my favorite tastes. Not only that, but balls smell amazing. It makes me go a little crazy on it to be honest. Like, I cannot get it far enough down my throat to be satisfied. I’m only satisfied when I feel those intense, powerful, salty, hot pumps of cum down my throat. When I sit back on my heels, look up at you with cum all over my mouth and slobber running down my neck, hair all fucked up and wipe my mouth with the back of my arm and ask you if I did a good job and you cannot even speak because I’ve drained all of your energy out the tip of your dick….. That’s when I’m satisfied.

>>19421178
also another understated one that goes for any feel-good substance

it makes it harder to know what you actually enjoy, because when you get that dopamine high, you're really into whatever is in front of you, no matter what it is. so you can get distracted and lost doing shit you really wouldn't give a fuck about if you weren't high on that substance. weed is really notorious for this as well as alcohol.

you'll be stuck doing the same routine because you think "i feel good when i drink this thing and do this thing so these two things are good"

>>19421191
>oh my god fancy car

that's some pleb normie shit

>>19421228
But I like cars

The meaning of life is just to be alive. It is so plain and so obvious and so simple. And yet, everybody rushes around in a great panic as if it were necessary to achieve something beyond themselves

>>19421297
What if I dont see being alive as a good thing?

I'm happy for a while, then reminded I'm an incel and whoops now I'm just sad again and this happens daily.

>>19421051

Correction

Bade I blithe by boundless benevolence
Not made nine mooned nightmare malevolence?
Tread i through the transient territories,
Ere err clay-cracked earthen categories.

Ideal dimpled idol devils in death,
Beguiled glory begot gilded ghost’s breath,
Philter-phlogist pouring pyric plumes pales
Stele stellar sirens psalter sod scales.

Quiet yogis yelling quatrains yonder
Wherewith kindly kindred weolcans wander,
Hellish howling rapture-ravens raveth!
Xuánxué-xeper-zhīyán-zìrán-zenith!

Ouran’s jewel joins our orchard’s journey,
Living fountains linked from Lightning-fury,
Ursa utters veiled verse umbrage-virgin;
“Allah’s angel awed and attained ain.”

>>19421371
Why are you an incel?

>>19421051
>>19421384
Can you explain it?

I need a therapist but it's not happening.

>>19421487
register for one class at a community college for like $800 and then bogart their free therapist

>>19421505
That seems like a good plan but i'm eastern european

>>19421398
I make pussies dry up in an instant.

>>19421240
okay

>>19421512
personality or looks wise?

i'm in a zoom meeting for work rn

The world is so undignified and ignoble. At least, that’s how I feel. The world over, there is nothing, absolutely nothing worth committing oneself to or striving for.

>>19421297
I believe the meaning of life is to realize that which is greater than life. Don’t ask me what that is because I don’t know, but I know it exists and I know it’s why what we’re supposed to do.

>>19421596
Both I'm sure, and I'm not just beating myself up for the sake of it. I'm 26 now and it didn't bother me as much till I started making an effort, accidentally made out with a girl on the dance floor for a bit, but it's been a year now and that was about it. It stings because too often I get to witness up close when guys have success, and that just makes me feel more alienated and out of place. Charming? Sometimes, I can strike up convos with random people without being too drunk and that can be fun on its own, but trying to go beyond that I've just been facing consistent rejection. I have a few close friends who've had some experience before, even with long term relationships, but even for them it's hard to keep the blackpill at bay when going through the humiliation of using a dating app, which is why I haven't bothered with that.

Every day I wake up I am happily surprised that is the case. I have the feeling China is going to launch a surprise hypersonic nuclear attack very soon, and as an American I am their primary target. There is some anxiety but once cannot live in fear. I aim to enjoy my life, because it could be take away at any moment by a man in Beijing.

>>19421475
>>19421475
Yes.it is constructed according to an invented metrical form I call hermestrismetricus, Hermes thrice metered. I am controlling the accentual pattern, the syllabic amount and I have invented a means to control the quantity which has a real sound effect unlike the previous attempts in English poetry to produce a quantitative meter, every letter of the alphabet is used, this poem is a proof of concept of the quantitative power working on every letter.

>Bade I blithe by boundless benevolence
>Not made nine mooned nightmare malevolence?

To seek for the endless goodness of divinity, do I not have to overcome the creation (sephirothic tree) in its 9 fold sephiroth (prior to kether, the highest point) and by extension the 9 are culminated in yesod which is imagination, aesthetic, illusion, the symbol of which is the moon, thus 9 moons are the 9 fold aspects of nature excluding the highest God.

>Tread i through the transient territories,

In order to do this I must pass through the changing and dying territories of creation both spiritual and material, for God is unchanging.

>Ere err clay-cracked earthen categories.

They are transient because, forever will mans categorizations and understanding of nature and God be born from himself, clay-cracked, born of this earth and not of eternity.

With this stanza ending we travel into the spiritual ascent of the aspirant.

>Ideal dimpled idol devils in death,

My conception of idols would take a small essay which I have already written, if you want that ask me and I’ll post it next.

>Ideal dimpled devils

In the enochian system of magic and mysticism, demons are understood to be what occurs when the mathematical-alchemical formulae are corrupted, which is, to put it in the context of Schiller and German idealism, when the sensual world does not obey the formal/ideal/rational, corruption occurs and that is the demonic in experience, see machen’s the white people for elaboration on this conception of the demonic/evil,

So during the spiritual practice, corruption dies, death is slain, this is the double negation, corruption becoming corrupted producing purity, not-not being yes, which is the core of various systems of mysticism.

>Beguiled glory begot gilded ghost’s breath,

cont

>>19421820
Hidden/deceptive glory (which is to say, the core of yetzirah, where the yesodic force has power.) produced gilded ghost=gilded=gold correspond to tiphererh which is the sun and beauty/harmony, ghost breath refers to the Holy Spirit, as the word which translates to spirit is pneuma, which means breath but also ghost, thus the line means

The illusion of nature’s glory made it possible for man to experience the Holy Spirit in nature, which is to say, the birth of Christ in flesh, thus the evil aspect of nature is pierced and reconciled as a means of knowing God.

>Philter-phlogist pouring pyric plumes pales

Philter=potion, elixir, usually of love
Phlogist; elemental fire; fire corresponds to chokmah and the experience of attaining the Holy Spirit as he descends with tongues of fire.
Pouring pyric=descends the burning elixir which pales,

To translate the line, the nectar of the divine bliss which is the burning love of God descends as a flame which purifies, what does it purify?

>Stele stellar sirens psalter sod scales.

Stele=a standing stone used either to reveal something or as a funerary marking, the stele stellar would be the star-symbol which is the mark of death in the world, which is to say, the human body, thus the human flesh is what is purified, but what is being purified in the body? The siren-psalter which is to say, the song which man deludes himself with which he creates, which is to say, his perception and relation to god and the world, thus his Sod(secret in Hebrew, referring to his knowledge of the highest level of nature in Kabbalah.) scales (his measuring.) thus man is purified and his vision of representation and illusion no longer defiles or moves him into sin but rather the entire world is flayed of evil and reveals only divinity and the divinity of Christ in particular as the Holy Spirit.

Then this moves in the next stanza to fusing the readers of the poem with the poem itself.

>Quiet yogis yelling quatrains yonder

They are quiet because the equanimity of samadhi/object and subject nonduality has been attained; thus they overcome the opposites, yelling quatrains (quatrains because Kabbalah divides creation into four worlds.)

>Wherewith kindly kindred weolcans wander,

Weolcans are clouds, the symbol of transience, thus even transience becomes holy and peaceful, revealing God, allowing the mental ascent.
>Hellish howling rapture-ravens raveth!

Cont

>>19421825
Hellish=hell in the boehme conception is the desire of God, much Catholicism agrees.

Howling=shugal, the howler, a typhonian reference to the ego and the reverie of mental thought constantly speaking and defining things being the devil which obscures heaven, however because they have been purified, they now point and extol god shouting to God.

Rapture-ravens.

Rapture is rapture, the bliss of it.

Ravens=Norse association of them with thought/thinking.

Rapture ravens=the mind in rapture of the divine bliss

Raveth>the raving of glossolalia which is used in the next line.

>Xuánxué-xeper-zhīyán-zìrán-zenith!

Dark learning, a movement of neo-Taoism, here being used as the literal meaning, mysterious-knowledge.

Xeper=variant form of the Egyptian god name khephri and means “becoming” it is the core Heideggerian concept in the temple of set cult

Zhiyan=goblet words as found in Zhuangzi, these are swirling metaphorical words which shift and change in meaning the more analyzed, being worded in such a way that they affirm or deny any position; thus used here to associate the words with the logos and Catuṣkoṭi.

Ziran=core taoist concept, means nature or spontaneous, referring to the inherent unity within nature which spontaneously is orderly and harmonious and produces itself from itself.

Zenith is zenith.

SO

“Mysterious knowledge/learning transmutes the being of my words turning them into the highest incomprehensible logos of God.”

Thus

thus the rapture-ravens are the mind moving towards the height, thus the mind experiencing religious rapture raves in glossolalia reflecting God which results in that glossolalia-like line which makes the verse and God nondual.
>Ouran’s jewel joins our orchard’s journey,

Cont

>>19421832
Ouran=form of Uranus, meaning heaven
Jewel=reference to the segula of my idiosyncratic religious mysticism, which is a reconciliation of the meinongian aussersein, laruelleian non-philosophy, Spinoza, Hegel, the difference-ontology of deleuze and Christian mysticism in general. Also indra’s net.

Orchard=a conception of creation which reconciles it all into Eden, the journey of the orchard being time reforming into the edenic purity. Thus the line means

The totality of divinity harmonizes with the unfolding of nature.


>Living fountains linked from Lightning-fury,

The living fountain is Christ, who is the living water, and this refers to how in my ontology god has created infinite creations, all of them linked by repeating the kabbalistic lighting bolt/mezla.

The fury in question is furor poeticus, an identification of God’s lightning with his voice which he, as the great Poet utters creating boundless worlds.


>Ursa utters veiled verse umbrage-virgin;

Ursa=ursa major; who is with Ursa Minor used in Chumbley and some kabbalistic schema as the cherubim (with Ursa Minor) of the ark of the covenant, being an astrological point with Draco being the image of Christ in nature as the revelation of the Holy Spirit, see the bahir and sepher yetzirah (Kaplan commentary.)

She utters a verse, a line, which is free from all sin, being virgin, virgin=Virgo, the letter Yod, the highest point of creation being the singular point, the tawasin, kether, and that Ketherian line/attainment is

“Allah’s angel awed and attained ain.”

Which is to say, God’s messenger/servant awed(the meaning of awe,wonder would again take a small essay to explain which I will post if asked) and thus attained/gained the level of ain, which is to say, the incomprehensible aspect of deity being known, by the harmonization of the apophatic and cataphatic.

>>19421835
Oh I didn’t mention two aspects

The living water of Christ being the overflowing becoming of being, nature, thus the identity of good=becoming/being in my ontology.

Veiled=the verse is veiled because the song Ursa Major is singing, is her beauty stellar beauty in the night sky.

>>19421898
Very interesting, thanks for explaining. If I may to offer a humble suggestion, it might be worth the try to make poems self-sufficient. Without the explanations the poem was 80% undecipherable (though that might be because of my own ignorance about the subjects). I would be interested in those essays you mentioned if you post the links. Also why did you name the metrical form after Hermes in particular?

>>19422065
>it might be worth the try to make poems self-sufficient. Without the explanations the poem was 80% undecipherable

This is 100% fair and understandable and I agree this would be most logical if my intent was to sell poetry or be known for poetry, however my writing of poetry is religious in nature being a form of spiritual contemplation, so while this would as an art form be a defect, as a religious artifact this enhances its value to me.

> I would be interested in those essays you mentioned if you post the links.

Here.

https://pastebin.com/AGcbQckP

>Also why did you name the metrical form after Hermes in particular?

Both for the word play ( Hermes Trismegistus=thrice great.) and for the meaning of hermes, hermes in hermeticiem is the harmonization of all in accordance with thrice great, being the triangle, the trinity, perfection, the three alchemical elements, the three greats of tahuti, he is the mystically equalized man. This thrice fold meter is further connected because I can use it and have done experiments in which the three meters which make it up are each correspondent on a Cartesian plane with one of the axis, accentual being vertical, quantitative being depth and syllabic being horizontal, and through this I can create complex or simplistic 2D or 3D figures, images, and so forth hidden within the texture of the sound pattern, of which the only I will likely produce will be Pythagorean, kabbalistic, hermetic and so forth in nature, being all worship of the triune deity.

I eat bloody period pads out of the trash, and I eat gum off of people’s shoes when I don't have food. I need to eat every second.

>>19422216
woah wtf frater

>>19422216
>I need to eat every second.
DAS RITE DAS RITE DAS RITE

>>19422152
>This is 100% fair and understandable and I agree this would be most logical if my intent was to sell poetry or be known for poetry, however my writing of poetry is religious in nature being a form of spiritual contemplation, so while this would as an art form be a defect, as a religious artifact this enhances its value to me.
I understand that you write poetry only for yourself and not for financial or vain reasons (and it is indeed a noble thing to do), but consider that writing a bit more accessible poetry would not be only out of those low motivations. Think about how many people could experience new spiritual/religious heights inspired by poetry. A poet is not unlike a teacher, I think.

>>19422216
I knew there was something wrong with this Frater freak.

>>19422290
Don't encourage this dweeb to spread his "teachings"

>>19422330
His teachings are actually legit if you've read enough philosophy and mysticism. The only thing about it that I don't like is his insistence on Christian dogma (which I believe contradicts pure Oneness) but other than that he's great.

>>19422330
100% agreed. This /lit/ trend of anons seeing him as authority just proves that this board has herd mentality. Idolizing a tripfag pseud who can't into logic and verbally vomits wikipedia tier "occultist" knowledge mixed in with his subjective little personal opinions all over the board (uninvited) is pitiful as fuck. It needs to end.

>>19422353
>His teachings
Insane choice of vocabulary, is he your guru? The absolute state of this board.

>>19422353
>Philosophy and mysticism
Literally means nothing and can mean anything. Go on, make it even more vague.

>>19422353
I don't give a shit about the musings of anyone who posts here as much as he does. A poisoned mind and a wasted life. You guys are too easily impressed by references to mysticism.

>>19422381
I was using the word the other anon used though, referring to his personal philosophy. As great as frater is, a christian would never be my "guru".
>>19422375
Just go and talk to him about something as narrow as 20th century phenomenology. He has read as much books about it as my professor has.

>le occult mystic guru blesses the tibetan goat herding forum with top hidden knowledge and teachings

>>19422417
>He has read as much books about it as my professor has.
Woah I guess I'm qualified to shit all over this board because I have autism and I have read a fuck load of books about shit!

>>19422437
Anon if you are seething so much you could easily use a filter (that is, if you are not a newfag).

>>19422290
Eh, I don’t expect my poems to live beyond me posting them in a place at any time you know? I sometimes write more simplistic stuff.

>>19422353
Through and through I am Christian is the reason.

>>19422375
If I have been logically incoherent in any place, argue with me on the point of incoherency and I will be corrected and thus refined. However on the tier of my knowledge, all that I say other than my personal/spiritual realizations can be read in books easily available online and I 100% believe it best to read the primary sources one’s self.

>>19422388
I write in a voluminous method to destroy vagueness, if you want any point to have its vagueness removed ask and I’ll try my best.

>>19422394
I mean, materially/wealth wise I’m pretty well, I’m also married with kids, I have a large family and as many friends as I care to have irl, why exactly would posting on 4chan about poetry I’ve read or written or about philosophy or occultism I’ve read or written be poisonous? I don’t believe I even post very often.
>>19422437
It’s a board about discussing books? If you read and want to discuss and post about the books you’ve read why would you not? What else would justify you posting here but reading books?

>>19422445
No it's my board I consume it in its raw state and I do what I want

>>19415205
My grant is 4 days late, and I am beginning to think it is not coming.
This is not good

>>19422460
GO TAKE CARE OF YOUR FUCKING KIDS BITCH LMAO

>>19422470
I’m a jeweler I’m literally at work kek

>>19422460
>It’s a board about discussing books? If you read and want to discuss and post about the books you’ve read why would you not? What else would justify you posting here but reading books?
Yes except it is an anonymous board, everyone does it anonymously and you do not, because you are a self-important attention-starved whore who thinks that whatever random bullshit he has to say on 4channel matters more than the rest, enough to sign it with a trip.

>>19422475
Why do you care so much, why are you so bent on defending yourself? If you truly didn't give a fuck about how you came off you would just ignore it and not be here like
>I have a wife and kids and I work as a jeweller and uhhhhh I am not logically incoherent!
Your behavior is pathetic. Attention whore.

>>19422460
>Through and through I am Christian is the reason.
A Christian who praises Hindu goddesses in one poem and mentions Allah in another is a rather unconventional Christian though.

>>19422494
It's heresy. Heretics must rope.

>>19422505
Christianity itself is the heresy.

>>19422485
My trip’s reasons are threefold honestly.
1=There is a sentimentally with the name due to a group of people who years ago all used frater based names, I was quite close with two of them, one being dead now.
2=by using a trip I can save any recommendations anyone gives me and any discussions I like
3=I can have an archive for all of the longer posts I make, which I can use to repost later or repurpose into some longer form of writing.

In truth I mostly use it for archive, I do not believe my writing important to others however I DO believe what I write is worthy of myself saving it, and by using the trip I can maintain multiple discussions at once at a maximal speed.

I think anyone who would enjoy the archives to their fullest should use a trip when they desire it.

>>19422492
Killing time at this point, when someone speaks to you isn’t your attention grabbed?

>>19422494
The idol essay posted above gets into the context of that stuff. At no point have I worshipped anything but the triune Godhead.

>>19422460
Answering your critics is ok in small doses but please don't become like Butterfly where you feel entitled to make every thread into you vs. your critics. Any time I see her trip I know it's another 100 posts of her responding to every post of someone who responds to every one of her posts.

>>19422509
>3=I can have an archive for all of the longer posts I make, which I can use to repost later or repurpose into some longer form of writing.
>2=by using a trip I can save any recommendations anyone gives me and any discussions I like
Amazing excuse! I totally believe you! It is definitely not attention whoring. It is for saving posts and information. But wait, Frater, have you ever heard of...

>Screenshots, the notes app, word app, fucking paper and pen
Wooaaaahhh holy fuck...
MIND = BLOWN
Take a deep breath so your head doesn't explode

>>19422536
Sorry you’re completely correct.

>>19422534
And why should God be three (or "triune," if you insist), and not pure Oneness?

>>19422534
>I am NOT triggered and defending myself because I care so much about what anon thinks of me on /lit/, I'm just killing time man I swear! I have friends IRL I have a social life and children! I have a wife man!

>>19422549
At last the monkey shuts the fuck up

>>19422550
I’ll just link to an essay I’ve already written to stop clogging up the thread.

https://pastebin.com/HtdXTV8H

>>19422549
It would only become bad if it became a regular thing like Butters. However I do think you are being baited by someone who personally hates you and just wants to gaslight you. I get pic rel vibes from this exchange. There's something personal in the aura of it that goes beyond usual shitpost trolling.

>>19422579
Thanks. I'll try to read this one and the idol essay and respond later.
>>19422580
The other anon seething so much about Frater is comical at this point. I can't help but laugh.

Long live the noble ideology of Anarcho-Monarchism!
Long live Marxist-Romanovist Thought!

the more i do coomer shit the happier i become

>>19422626
>Anarcho-Monarchism
Can u red pill me on this one? It sounds kinda intriguing.

How does it feel to kiss a girl on the cheek?

>>19419108
when is dense history ever comfy tho except the first 50 pages of decline and fall that i read and then just stopped cuz the prose was kicking my ass

>>19423093
smoothbrain

>>19422949
JRR Tolkien was an anarcho-monarchist. His ideal government was something where the people governed themselves with a distant king acting as a safeguard.

>>19423128
imsry ;(

Been posting books I've read as my Instagram story. I post them pretty frequently as I can read a short ish book in a day. Is that pseud of me?

>>19423168
yeah you sound like a faggot but what books are they

The comfy smug anglo/frank and neurotic ashkenaz are at war within me.
>>19422999
Interlinked.

>>19423178
Last one was Fictions by Borges

Current Song
https://youtu.be/jboEolwHIIA

i am god

>>19423168
>Is that pseud of me?
Are you 21 or younger? If so, you basically don't know any better.

>>19422999
Soft and warm. Pretty nice, would recommend.

I took an Intro to C++ coursr in college. I think it broke something in me, because I had no idea what the fuck was going on. I spent most of class fooling around on my laptop and most of lab in the bathroom on my phone. Trying to figure it all out hurt my brain. Towards the end, I started sending in half finished projects and taking the bad grades. I was forced to confront that fact that I'm not very intelligent. After that, I kinda coasted through college without much care for my grades since I knew I could never get a worthwhile degree. Thankfully, my mom's friend got me a decent job in tech support since I interned with him for a few summers. After 3.5 years, I've paid off my student debt and put a bunch away in a mutual fund. Also, my boss loves me, as do my customers. I won.

>>19423552
those freshman year c++ courses are so friggen easy dude lmao

Why the FUCK is there an app store on my tv

>>19423591
you have a tv? boomer much

>>19423600
>tfw dont understand the tv
>have to ask kids to explain it to me
I'm only in my 20s. This is getting out of hand

>>19423600
>>19423635
I had to explain to my 8 year old brother how to use a dvd player. I'm not ready for feeling this old bros

New thread
>>19423699