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Medieval skyscraper edition

>> No.19401712

>>19401702
i'm pushing 40 and i realized that i will probably never have a gf so i decided to literally move into my mom's basement to save money. it's a nice basement, though.

>> No.19401716
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>>19401702
reminds me of these
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_towers_of_Cantabria

>> No.19401719
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19401719

gonna start reading War and Peace this week. looking forward to it! what's everyone else reading?

>> No.19401728

>>19401712
Why not just hire a dating coach, or a matching service, or something at that point?

>>19401719
Dead Souls by Gogol

>> No.19401733

>>19401702
I think the term art is a very strong word. You can produce artifacts or sounds that have a beautiful aspect to them but they might not evoke such vivid emotion as to be considered to be "art" and I think that many people use the term art very lightly to refer to things that aren't really, it gets thrown lightly as a term used in marketing campaigns for popstar tours, video games, sports skills.

I'm not devaluing the merit of anyone, if you like what you like and it moves you then good for you but there are objective standards for these things. I've noticed people online like to attribute to their favourite writers or musicians these abilities that they perceive subjectively but aren't really there. There are websites where the people will go on and on about how death metal is the same as Wagner which is just not true, or how a vastly popular author is literary. The talent required to write something that achieves massive popularity might very well possess literary traits and I'd say it's even likely that the things we call literature tomorrow are extremely popular right now. I just don't know what.

Long ago I saw a video proclaiming the death of the artist as a genius in favour of the 'creative entrepreneur' who is basically an influencer. Will it be the righteous pedants of tomorrow that overlook some starving songwriter in favour of Travis Scott because he reflected the "spirit of the moment?" have I just no brains to tell?

>> No.19401740

>>19401712
What even is a gf anymore? Weren't we supposed to have families and become men? There is no marriage anymore and the remaining marriages have a 90% divorce rate. Average normal girls now sell their sexuality online as prostitutes. At what point is it the system's fault and not yours?

>> No.19401744

>>19401719
At last! Hot redhead ass is here

>> No.19401760
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19401760

>2 years out of a master's program
>still can't find a job that pays a living wage
>program did nothing to help us find work, unless you were a girl of course
>one of my cunt professors told me to my face that I was a bad fit for the program and asked what my backup plan was if I failed, in the same conversation where she asked why I wasn't like one of her favorite students
>run this gay shit through my head every day
>stuck in shit living situation with no way out due to poverty and housing being astronomical
>got an e-friend that I haven't had a good conversation with in over a year and who doesn't understand financial issues because he's always had money
all of this shit is gay
life is gay
i crave death

>> No.19401773

>>19401740
This. My grandfathers married virgins who bore them many children. Now in 2021 I'm expected to "date" a girl who's had 30-40 men coom inside her before me, doesn't want children, and doesn't believe in marriage because it's patriarchial. Why bother? I pump and dump tinder sluts and call it a day. If I lived in an enlighted society with legal prostitution I'd be banging whores for cash every weekend.

>> No.19401777

children's books and YA retard children and turn them into retarded adults. all infantilized literature should be banned as a matter of public morality.

>> No.19401783

>>19401740
Marriage =/= family.

Girls you consooom on social media aren’t but a tiny fraction of women. Switch off

>> No.19401788

>>19401740
>90% divorce rate

its not that bad yet

>> No.19401791

>>19401777
waste of digits. Jeez, man. You one of them censorship fundies?

>> No.19401793

>>19401783
your transpoly relationship will never be a family

>> No.19401801

>>19401712
I'm 31 and I've accepted it. I can't fathom the possibility of meeting a woman that I could trust or that I could relate to in any fundamental way, shape, or form. I'm not a superhero but thanks to women I've learned to become invisible.

>> No.19401802

>>19401793
awesome

>> No.19401806

>>19401740
>>19401773
I was just talking about the awful system in the other thread. Someone was defending it as an unchangeable monolith and we should give up.

Ah, but you’d give up if you were bribed with a wife and family.

>> No.19401811

I think I might have a sex addiction. I’ve battled substance abuse issues 10+ years ago so I have the personality. It’s creating a lot of drama but it feeds my ego and I fall in love with every girl and the feelings seem to be returned. I’m embarrassingly nursing a black eye trying to get out of work the next few days. My friend found out I was hooking up with his daughter

>> No.19401812

>>19401783
>Marriage =/= family.

that's the entire purpose of marriage you contemporary freakshow

>> No.19401814

>>19401793
Why is this so omnipresent in your head?
Stop looking at b or gif or whatever, tard.

>> No.19401819

>>19401773
>I pump and dump tinder sluts and call it a day
Whores like you and women should burn in the same raging fire.

>> No.19401825

>>19401812
No it fucking isn’t. You married to you mom and dad? Siblings? Are they not family?
Think before posting.
Better yet. Go read a book.

>> No.19401831

>>19401814
Put your trip back on you disgusting fucking pantyshitting old bag. Your dyke stink is clouding up several threads and I want it filtered.

>> No.19401833
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>>19401819
Nope. Only women can be whores. Men can fuck as many holes as they can find. I want to fuck whores and marry virgins; that's how my ancestors lived. Anything else is cope slave morality ressentiment.

>> No.19401835

>>19401825
you get married
to start a family

>> No.19401844

>>19401835
Read the rest of the post

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19401846

Methinks ye saracens are conspiring...or ye ieuus...

>> No.19401850

>>19401844
that was the idea being expressed in the post you responded to with a non-sequitur

>> No.19401857

>>19401850
Let me reiterate for you.
Marriage =/= family.

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>>19401760
Snopes deboonked your picrel; my picrel is the real image.

>> No.19401880

>>19401773
It's temporary at the end of the day. If we consider the various parts of the West, we can see sexual norms going back to the mean sooner rather than later.
>Europe
As it becomes a Muslim-majority continent, Islamic gender norms take over.
>USA/Canada
Liberalism causes society to collapse, fundamentalist Christian sects emerge from the ashes. Traditional gender norms restored.

I don't see how the current paradigm can survive in the long run. If nothing else, the terminally low birthrate proves it.

>> No.19401897

>>19401702
How come you can’t make this thread connect to the older? What’s your problem?

Previous thread >>19393691

>> No.19401909

im starting to think you guys dont really care about me :(

>> No.19401918

>>19401897
seething about your "proper" thread losing huh?

>> No.19401924

>>19401897
Butters, get a fucking life.

>> No.19401975

>>19401702
So did Bologna really look like this at one point in time? Really cool image OP, I had fun reading about the towers.

>> No.19402024
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19402024

I envy this guy so much. He has absolute control over an entire civilization. A billion people worship him. People cheer for him, chant his name, read his works. He never feels pain, or rejection, or anything like that. I am certain his family is proud of him; he never feels the pain of disappointing those he loves. Everything luxury and comfort imaginable is available to him.

>Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown
Shut up. I have no crown and my head lies uneasy all the time. I fear for losing my job, I fear for failing in academic pursuits, I fear for not making money. Just once I would like to be like him, with power and luxuries and wealth beyond measure. Xi Jinping doesn't worry about losing his job, or failing, or money. He won the game of life. This man is the closest thing to godhood in terms of power that currently exists. God I wish it was me.

>> No.19402038

>>19401975
No, this is a drawing made by a guy born in 1958.
Why did he think medieval Bologna looked like 1970s NYC is anyone’s guess, although the image of medieval cyberpunk is such a bizarre and cool mashup.

>> No.19402051

>>19402024
He was actually rejected from the ccp 9 times when he was younger. But that guy has a lot of responsibilities running a country. I'd rather be retired Jeff Bezos, a lot of people hate him but so what he has 100+ billion plus and is free to do whatever he wants.

>> No.19402056

>>19401975
from what i understand a lot of italian towns did, pre-renaissance medieval italy is really strange like this, it constantly breaks the rules of what you would expect from normal history or a normal civilization. instead of being punctuated by obvious epochs and epochal shifts, everything kind of drifts and people have to figure shit out on their own. the empire could only control italy indirectly and the lombards became weaker and weaker, and the pope only rarely had direct control, so you have strange things like the popes still being dominated by literal who nobles in rome where there are people living in houses in a forest that has grown up inside the roman colosseum. nobody knows what political forms are "normal" for italy so everybody just makes shit up or revives old shit. strange communes and social structures pop up out of nowhere because there was no feudal hierarchy or imperial bureaucracy around to say no to them. it feels more like a "tribal" country mixed with prehistoric viking farmstead + ancient "if you can defend it, you're independent" city state rules than feudal/national country rules.

wickham's sleepwalking into a new world is a pretty cool book on the early communes in italy.

>> No.19402079

>>19402051
I guarantee you Jeff Bezos goes to sleep every night worried about a communist revolution in the USA. Xi is set for life.

>> No.19402089
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>>19401702
I'm curious as to the best place online to buy physical books? ebay or something else?

>> No.19402093

I'd love to meet a nice girl, marry her, and raise a cute daughter or two, but I'm pretty sure I'm instead just going to work my McJob, come home and microwave my brain with escapist media, and sabotage my attempts at improving myself for the rest of my life until I become a brain-fried zombie incapable of laughing, crying, or caring deeply about anything.

>> No.19402095

>>19402079
Jeff Bezos isn't scared of a communist revolution. But Xi has to worry about other factions in the government and the whole country.

>> No.19402100

>>19402093
Don't fret too much, maybe you'll find someone nice to spend time with, that's all you really need. Would you really want to bring a child into whatever the fuck this world is? I want a child badly, however, I can't bring myself to subjecting someone to whatever this shitshow is we're living through. Adoption at best, those kids don't have a choice to be in this fucked up dump.

>> No.19402102

>>19402089
ebay, powells and thriftbooks are my go-tos

>> No.19402113

>>19402102
thank you.

>> No.19402119

>>19402093
The fact that you are aware of these things means that you can fight.

>> No.19402124

>>19402038
>"Between the 12th and the 13th century, Bologna was a city full of towers. Almost all the towers are tall (the highest being 97m), defensive stone towers; the number of towers in the city was very high, possibly up to 180."
you should have read a bit more. it may have looked like that.
>>19402056
sounds interesting. thanks for the rec! do you have anymore cool images like this of pre-renaissance towns/communes?

>> No.19402128

Through my study of buildings and my former job as a goods executioner I feel as thought the inside is only visible through dissection's. I have photographed many deteriorating buildings and awed at the true nature of materials guts. The deconstructionists where wrong, their principle is not metaphor or provocative word play but the truth as literally read. Woods drew his plans as pre-destroyed, a faked state of openness but a truly crumbling façade or festering botch is much more honest and edifying. It is too bad that flesh and steel alike are not designed to bend slowly and unravel but to fail monumentally all at once at death. Even more depressing is the illusion of vivisection, it may reveal some truth in the cuts and collapse at one juncture, the very collapse hides the next truth. I am temped to tear deeper then usual but I have no tools for this and the collapsed form of bricks and rock is stronger then its previous composure. The very earth is impenetrable to this effect and when I tempt to transpose these thoughts to fellow man I can only imagine the digging resulting it the futile unreadable red mist and gel which would slowly mix to mud and then mortar and then rock. If anything Gaudi was right to build up by hanging down, and by digging the cords of wire and anchor through its opposite is the indestructible, and likewsie if there where a perfect man he would be designed from his corpse and dangled upsidedown from the heads stone nto animate life

>> No.19402146

>>19402089
abebooks

go for old trade paperbacks in good condition despite being used

>> No.19402151

>>19402146
i don't mind the physical condition as long as it's not falling apart, honestly i like them broken in, the stiffness of new books irritates me a little

>> No.19402154

>>19402124
I’ve seen the actual pictures of the two towers. If the rest of them looked like that it still wouldn’t look like that artistic rendition.
Look at the bottom of the picture, the things that look like bushes are HOUSES.
This would mean that the towers would be as high as late 20th/early 21st century skyscrapers like the Burj Khalifa if the drawing is supposed to be to scale.
Bologna would look straight out of Akira or Blade Runner in a medieval setting.
It’s absurd.

>> No.19402159

>>19402100
As true as that may be, don't tell me you haven't also felt the hardwired biological urge to raise a qt daughteru and do right by her in spite of the evil of the world.

>> No.19402161

>>19402159
you're absolutely right, i've always told myself it's selfish because of how fucked up this world is.

>> No.19402166

>>19402056
>wickham's sleepwalking into a new world is a pretty cool book on the early communes in italy.
thank you anon, i'll check this book out. Are there any other books on this period that you'd recommend?

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>fell asleep at my desk listening to Bill Evans again

>> No.19402187

>>19402119
Not that anon, but I don't know. I know there are major issues in my life. Hell, I know what needs to be done to fix it. But I feel powerless to do these things, like I am watching a character play its role.

>> No.19402199

>>19402187
Act! Your paralysis is self-made.

>> No.19402204

>>19402159
>and do right by her in spite of the evil of the world.
I don't feel capable of this.

>> No.19402205

>>19401814
>>19401783
Holy shit a sane person ITT

>> No.19402211

My primary motivation to write my first novel was so I could have a power fantasy about saving the world and getting together with a tsundere girl.
I think the biggest influences on my writing are Star Wars and superhero movies. The good ones, anyway.

>> No.19402223

>>19402211
>The good ones, anyway
List all superhero movies from worstest to betterest, go. Jk but which ones do you consider to be the good ones?

>> No.19402232

Upstate NY looks like a nice place to live.

>> No.19402257

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADycTGK3IM8

>> No.19402260

>>19402211
Star Wars is Harry Potter for boys and your eventual book is undoubtedly going to be shit.

>> No.19402268
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>>19402223
Okay. Pic related is just my opinion.
>>19402260
Everyone is allowed to have opinions

>> No.19402269

I think rekt/gore porn is more damaging than sexual acts porn. But of course it’s all about NNN and all that semen retention shit.

How materialist

>> No.19402280

Even though I am certain civilization is going to collapse because of climate change or AI, I am also beginning to realize the collapse is not coming fast enough for me to not care about life. I suppose I will have to put my best effort into my daily life instead of just coasting along.

>> No.19402282

What books should I read if I sympathize with the 6th house and the reclamations pantheon?
I have already read Progress of Truth , The Seven Curses and Kagrenac's Tools

>> No.19402355

>>19402282
The what?

>> No.19402364

>>19402211
i want to kms just reading this
cringe
yikes
shiggy diggy
basedboy
bugman
manchild

>> No.19402394

>unemployed because quit job
>finished manuscript
>now spending entire days reading
>don't go outside, don't speak to anyone, don't leave my apartment
/comfy/

>> No.19402420

>>19401811
How old are you?

>> No.19402444

>>19401811
what the fuck

>> No.19402445

time for sleep. I pray this is the big sleep.

>> No.19402452

>>19401712
I’m ten years younger than you, but I’ve already given up on a gf and moved in with my mom.

>> No.19402485

>>19402282
The Anticipations and Words of the Wind

>> No.19402501

>>19401728
>dating coach
do these exist and do they work?

>> No.19402502

>>19402079
did you see the article in the wsj about inequality in china? oh, it's bad, and xi is desperately trying to close it but to no avail. the western theory that the bourgeoisie will take over might still happen, the bourgeoisie just weren't strong enough until now. i would cut and past the chart but it's made out of javascript instead of an image.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/xi-jinping-china-economy-growth-poverty-tech-beijing-11636915358

>> No.19402508

>>19402502
china's still pulled a ridiculous number of people out of poverty in the last 40 years

>> No.19402510

>>19402502
>in china the top 1% of individuals controlled 30% of china's wealth
>in the usa top 1% of individuals controlled 35% of wealth

the difference the poor people in china are way poorer than the poorest americans.

>> No.19402511

>>19402089
comfy reading chair desu

>> No.19402517

>>19402508
40% of the population which is to say 600 million people live on monthly incomes of less than $140, meanwhile last year china was the first country to pass 1000 billionaires. and you think the united states is the one at risk for revolution? bernie can't even win the primaries, americans don't want communism, but the chinese already went for it once and might go for it again.

>> No.19402521

>>19402093
>brain-fried zombie incapable of laughing, crying, or caring deeply about anything
You're not already there?

>> No.19402533

All my social interactions are cringe. I'm cringe

>> No.19402546

>>19402517
>and you think the united states is the one at risk for revolution?

no, im a different poster

>> No.19402558

>>19402546
oh another fun one is the multiple of the average yearly income to buy a house in beijing is 25x and shanhai is 20x while london is 8x and nyc is 7x. that kid who worships xi jinping is such a brainlet.

>> No.19402562

>>19402533
You’re only half right.
Gtfo already

>> No.19402566

>>19402502
>>19402517
I don't doubt life in China SUCKS for a lot of people but at the same time I really doubt their government is in danger. Meanwhile America is one economic crisis away from an October Revolution. Look at all the strikes happening rn.

>>19402558
> that kid who worships xi jinping is such a brainlet.
I don't worship Xi, I just want to have the life he does.

>> No.19402586

Was at the commissariat. I must admit I do not like the music there. There is one song I do not mind. I cannot hear words in music unless I pay close attention. Upon noting the lyrics of the song and then searching for it on the itnernet I find it is by Katty Perry. BFTF?

>> No.19402587

>>19402562
Explain further

>> No.19402606

>>19402587
They are either saying Your social interactions are cringe but you are not cringe or the yare saying your social interaction are not cringe but you are cringe
My condolences Anon

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>>19402154
I have actually studied this subject extensively because I worked with a museum to design a digital rendition of another high middle ages Italian city. I'm an architect whose bachelor degree is in architectural history(with a speciality in vernacular Italian architecture.)
You are not understanding
>I’ve seen the actual pictures of the two towers. If the rest of them looked like that it still wouldn’t look like that artistic rendition.
The majority of medieval urban towers were completely demolished in the 14th century as the magnate dominated order of "good men" consensus based governance was overtaken by a more legalist system that was either ruled by a podesta(or equivalent) or by a series of councils dominated by guilds. The towers represented opposition to this order and a period of intense violence within the cities between the ruling families. The towers that remained were shortened considerably and had to he lower than buildings like the church or "town hall". So what you see today is not a representative of their original height, especially in large cities like Bologna
>This would mean that the towers would be as high as late 20th/early 21st century skyscrapers like the Burj Khalifa if the drawing is supposed to be to scale
Can't tell if this is bait or you have a genuine issue with perception of scale

>> No.19402620

I got lead on for the better part of 10 months and the only plus side is that I'm so unhappy that I have no compulsion at all to look at pornography. It's been close to a month now and I can't even get my dick hard.

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>1500 word essay due at 2pm tomorrow
>10pm right now
>haven't even done the readings
It's over

>> No.19402634

>>19402587
You are cringe for declaring this nonsense.
You people have slipped deeper and deeper into a disconnected schizophrenic quagmire.
Where you just trying to be funny there?

>> No.19402643

>>19402620
how does that happen

>> No.19402648

>>19402643
Which part?

>> No.19402661

>>19402632
I have calculated it and it is mathematically impossible for me to get a B- or higher in my course, which means I will be put on academic probation. I plan on taking a leave of absence next semester to figure out what is wrong with me.

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19402680

Optimal trance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs4IszkqV_s

I have always liked city streets that are positioned at an oblique angel: more nostalgia for the vertogenic home.

The head is meant to be in the skies; the hands are meant to be in the soils; from the legs the conqueror rises; from the torso the king rules.

>> No.19402681

>>19402661
>>19402632
write the essay

>> No.19402685

>>19402680
>...[angle]...

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I've realized I've been able to do the things I'm interested in life when I just go "fuck it" and do it like I don't really care.
It's like that pepe that said "just don't care". It's funny how my inhibitions are my biggest obstacles.

>> No.19402694

Do you ever fantasize about other anons?
I think its because Im somewhat self sexual
and I obviously assume all other posters look like me

>> No.19402715

>>19402648
how do you get led on for 10 months

>> No.19402729

Fuckin hell lads, there's nothing I want to do less right now than go to the gym. Fuckin have to though so I'm off

>> No.19402737

>>19402715
Lived in different cities, she kept saying she was coming back to my city, kept delaying, then said she'd be up for sure in December which didn't play out and by the look of it she's staying in her city after meeting some guy on an app. For context, we were old friends and used to live in the same city, she wasn't just some person from the internet. I thought I was getting clear signals and was giving them back, talking about meeting each other's families etc. Maybe I'm just retarded though.

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>>19402681
I'm 100 words in. The biggest hump has been traversed. Inshallah this demon shall be conquered before dusk

>> No.19402796

>>19402737
sounds like youre retarded, just have a conversation about your expectations and feelings at some point

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19402845

Sometimes I have the idea that what I'm doing is having a battle of wits with some Platonic super ideal, that of Beauty, or Good, or True, and what I want from it is to present itself, and what it wants from my is my naiveté, my spontaneity. They say what God lacks is limitation. So here, in myself, is where the finite and the infinite meet, and my idea, like a Taoist, is to stand up and let it happen. And the thing is that I feel it everywhere when I'm not doing it right. I'm being selfish, I'm demanding too much control, and the spirit won't have it. That's not for me. My place is to be myself, with my ridiculous ignorance, and, well, to have faith.

>> No.19402858

>>19402501
it depends, but yeah. they work. the important thing is that they challenge you and push you out of your comfort zone.

>> No.19402919

Thinking of grabbing the copies of War and Peace, the leviathan and the portrait of an artist as a young man from the shelf I saw at my campus

>> No.19403038

>>19402615
Those towers just seem inefficient to me, wouldn't it have been better to build little forts instead? Maybe its towers for the same reason skyscrapers exist today cause the land is cheaper...

Those little crossbow slits look stupid aswell, doesn't seem well defended to me...

>> No.19403057

>>19401833
Based and Freud-pilled

>> No.19403064

>>19402280
>climate change
yes goy welcome the next power grab, climate change will be the apocalypse just like covid was the Black Death!
read:
>Apocalypse Now
>False Alarm
>Unsettled
These are all modern books. For a deeper understanding you need to understand climatology. But /sci/ is too Reddit to help.

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>>19402280
forgot to attach pic related to my post

>> No.19403079

>>19403070
That's just menopause

>> No.19403083
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>>19402280
A scientist from my country said that if all countries follow what they signed on to in the Glasgow meetings, we will reach about 1.8 degrees Celsius.

This assumes two things: all countries do what they said they would do, also that there won't be any major breakthroughs along the way.

In either case things are looking up, we probably won't collapse civilization

>> No.19403088

>>19402146
Love that site. When I like to indulge I get Folio Society editions of my favorite books from abebooks
Feels good man

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>>19402845
Based and humility-pilled

>> No.19403303

Decided to read dune after I saw people talk about it on /tv/ but it wasn't released yet in my country and I loved the book, even the last third
What should I read next?
I like star trek deep space nine and enterprise but not much else, anything that I should read if I like hard sci-fi but also hate it?

>> No.19403547

>>19403303
Maybe check out Asimov's works?

>> No.19403554

>>19401702
The Sentinel
I walk lockstep
End to end of my parents patio
Cigarette smoke trailing behind me
Imagining that I am guarding
The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier

What I would give to have such a purpose,
Their automatic movements juxtaposing
My clumsy steps in the cold.

I may not be tall enough to be a guardsman
But I may have a purpose yet
Patrolling the backyard with listless indifference
Back and forth back and forth
The only difference between my action
And theirs may be intention.

So much weight rests on their sacrifice of Self
To ceremony
Perhaps the weight of a nation.

>> No.19403557

>>19401733
We need new words.

>> No.19403599

>>19402268
Poor Green Lantern. Never stood a chance.

>> No.19403923

>>19401702
chattel slavery is no worse than wage labour

>> No.19403936

>>19402268
absolutely pathetic

>> No.19404052

>>19402420
In my 30s

>> No.19404063

>dont know how to solve my problems
>cant rely on anything
i dont see a way out

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>>19404052
How old is your friend's daughter? Have you heard of delicious tacos?

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Female friend of mine who worked in a lab once told me she stole two medicinal leeches from her lab and took them home with her. These were large leeches apparently, already thick when unfed and as long as an adult finger. She put the leeches away in the fridge and had a nice big dinner: steak (medium rare), potatoes, greens, the works, and a nice red wine to go with it. After which she went to the bathroom and then took the leeches out of the fridge. She then plugged her vagina and ass with tampons and put the two live, though apparently somewhat drowsy, leeches in her panties (yes, she was wearing them) and proceeded to leave them in there for an hour. That's when I told her to stop, as I didn't want to hear the gruesome rest. Though, of course, I couldn't help ask why she did it. Her response: because I bloody well felt like it!

>> No.19404225

>>19404211
Nice

>> No.19404228 [DELETED] 

leftoids got smoked and had to call the jannies i see.

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Innocence is everything for a woman.

>> No.19404354

>>19404291
She was praying recently?

>> No.19404377

>write what you want
He was a stout fellow. He was a little short, his teeth were crooked, but he had a handsome face and a good grasp of where the clitoris was.

>> No.19404405

>>19402558
>and nyc is 7x.
What? The average yearly income in the US is under 50k, there’s no way you can buy a house for 350k in New York City. You probably couldn’t even buy a broom closet for that amount. Something seems fishy about your numbers.

>> No.19404411

>>19404291
Ever think she might have fucked her boyfriend? Maybe it was his bday the night before and they got drunk and now she’s hungover. Don’t get me wrong, I would never be with a girl who had tons of guys, but I’m not insecure enough to worry about how I compare to her last partners. Jealousy is ugly in a guy. Just accept that she’s had a past sex life as have you. In the end it’s just smashing your genitals together. It’s obviously better if you love your partner, but sex isn’t a big deal

>> No.19404414

>>19404291
true

>> No.19404426

>>19404074
Like half my age give or take. Delicious tacos doesn’t ring a bell for me. I’m guessing it’s something you have to be in the “know” for? A google search brought up some writer

>> No.19404431

>>19404411
Woman

>> No.19404443

>>19404411
> In the end it’s just smashing your genitals together. It’s obviously better if you love your partner, but sex isn’t a big deal
You think just maybe you could be wrong about that considering that 9/10 major historical ideological systems consider it to be a big deal. You maybe, just maybe?

>> No.19404461

>>19404405
>The average annual real wage in 2019 in the US was $65,836
now multiply that by 7 and put that as your upper limit in zillow and see what you can buy in nyc? looks like a lot to pick from to me

>> No.19404520

>>19404291
What do you mean by "innocence"

>> No.19404528

>>19402280
>LE CIVILIZATION COLLAPSE
Define collapse and civilization

>> No.19404532

how is the NNN going??

>> No.19404538

>>19404431
>>19404443
Do you guys have a sex life? Should your past always be held against you for something so mild? I agree that a slut is a different story, but in the real world, people date, and when they date, they fuck. To expect a fully grown woman to have never had a relationship is delusional and quixotic

>> No.19404539

>>19404426
You hooked up with your friend's 15 year old daughter? You should be happy you have a black eye. If I was your friend I would have killed you

>> No.19404544

>>19404431
>wOmAN
Lmao fuck out of MY thread

>> No.19404549

>>19404539
Not 15. You would ruin your relationship with your daughter then. This girl hates her dad now and wants to move in with me

>> No.19404555

>>19404538
Let it go, you think these people have rational thinking capacities? You are talking to untermenschen

>> No.19404556

>>19401740
I have managed to find a virgin religious girl, with only minor mental illness. She has made it clear she wants to get married and have kids.
They're rare, but two of my friends have managed to do the same.

>> No.19404558

>>19404538
Yeah my wife who I married when we were both virgins. Sex is not "smashing your genitals" together to me, it's a spiritual act full of meaning.

>> No.19404570

>>19402632
1,000 word essay due at 12pm tomorrow, haven't started either.
Don't worry lad, we're in this crapshoot together.

>> No.19404576

>>19401702
Hot boys and their fickle natures.

>> No.19404585

Just turned 26 with no job prospects and nothing on the horizon; I'm a failed normie and my savings are slowly depleting. This is in large part because a few years ago I had a mental breakdown and since then OCD and panic attacks have shattered my life.

It feels like I'm stuck behind a grimy plexiglass prison, watching things pass me by but unable to see things clearly or exercise any agency; I'm like a piece of driftwood being tossed around by the current. My obsessions are so bad it's hard to think about anything at all, including planning for the future and I have very few memories of the past 6 years. It's also hard to breathe and I feel like I'm on the verge of a heart attack constantly; when I venture into the outside world I'm so on edge that just being alongside other people feels like a fight for survival.

My grandfather (who openly tells me I'm a disappointment) called to wish me a happy birthday a few days ago and said that given how old I am I need to stop fucking around and get a job. And while he's right, it's so frustrating hearing from him and my parents that I need to go to law school or get a job or something while every waking second feels like I'm being tortured. I'm really not sure what to do. I almost fainted during my last interview. The crushing reality of life has hit me like a brick, in that this is it. There's no doctor that can cure mental problems, no do-overs, and no one can save you but you. And if you die, that's just how it is, there's billions of other people.

/endblog

>> No.19404588

>>19404549
>This girl hates her dad now and wants to move in with me
Lol that's the dumbest excuse/retort ever, a 16 year old with no life experience and no brain falls in love and wants to move in with an adult she has sexual attraction for? Color me surprised. This has nothing to do with you

>You would ruin your relationship with your daughter
Why do you think I'd give a fuck? This is akin to saying I will "ruin my relationship with my children" if I do allow them to shoot heroin. This is not how education works, do you get it or no? Fucking subhuman

>> No.19404590

>>19404585
Anon, try therapy.

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>write what's on your mind
Girls are on my mind. The short blonde qt at the gym. The /sffg/ girl obsessed with philip k. dick in my uni book club. The asian girl who lives in my apartment complex and lock eyes with all the time in the engineering building. The cute auburn haired Christian girl who was hopelessly confused after we watched Dune.

Why yes, I'm lonely and want a girlfriend, how could you tell?

>> No.19404606

>>19404549
Yeah because you're fucking her dumbass. Sex has an overwhelming bonding power over us, especially when you're young and have had few or no partners as it's purpose is to bind us so that we stay together to rear our young. It is nearly impossible to make a proper evaluation of your partner if you're fucking early in the relationship and I can guarantee you that this shit is going to collapse like everything else in your fucked up junkie life. Get help faggot.

>> No.19404631

>>19404576
<3

>> No.19404667

>>19404590
I did for almost 2 years.

>> No.19404681

>>19404667
Which branch?

>> No.19404737

>>19404588
>shooting heroin is the same thing as a relationship

>> No.19404750

>>19404681
CBT. I'm not sure how great my therapist was though.

>> No.19404768

>>19404750
>CBT
Did it help at all or just not to the degree you wanted?

>> No.19404795

>>19404631
uwu

>> No.19404812

>>19402632
>Refugee pepe.
>Send monees

>> No.19404827

>>19404354
Or some other on knees activity, not necessarily involving someone’s groin.

>> No.19404842

>>19404558
>it's a spiritual act full of meaning.
I too like dopamine.

>> No.19404865

>>19404768
I think it helped a little in that the cognitive work convinced me that low self esteem is irrational and it helped me shed some of my insecurities, and in turn my anxiety has loosened a little, but I tried expressing to my therapist many times what specifically I'm experiencing and what I'd like help with but he thought he knew better what I needed than I did so we tried so many methods that I think were misguided. We also did almost no exposure work and he never laid out any regiments for me to follow.

I still am in a constant state of such severe anxiety that I can't really function. I know everyone thinks they have it the worst and doomers tout their shortcomings like a badge of honor, but to give an idea of where I was at 2 years ago, it was so severe that I couldn't even hold a conversation with family members without nearly breaking down. It became a problem at work where every conversation had me feel like I was going to go crazy in front of people, and I developed insomnia and became suicidal. It's felt difficult to breathe for years now and I have heart palpitations, blurry vision, butterflies in my stomach, and I get no pleasure from anything.

I finally started sleeping again though and my anxiety feels like its slowly becoming less consuming, but I'm kind of out of time.

>> No.19404867

>>19404585
Focus on your gut health. Cold showers help too. Lipopolysaccharides (endotoxins) cause brain inflammation and cold showers can help to lower that inflammation. If your gut health is compromised it can cause these endotoxins to get into your bloodstream.

Sounds crazy but it is something that might help you.

>> No.19404893

>>19404865
Lemme guess, you've found yourself stuck in a universe where no one knows the score, everybody pretends they do, and you're guaranteed to suffer at some point?

That's what got to me. It gets better. You see that.

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The contessa was a famous and quite wealthy eccentric. She was also a devotee of fashion and her eccentricities bled quite frequently into the latter. For an upcoming party she devised the idea of wearing a style of dress that it had never occurred to anyone to design before and, what's more, that would and could only be unique to her. This contessa was a woman over forty, buxom and voluptuous, with a prominent and well formed derriere--though her face was full of freckles. Then one day while looking in the mirror, after having just made use of the commode, it hit her: she asked her private tailor to fashion for her a dress imprinted with a granular pattern that exactly mimicked her anus and no other: it'd be like a leopard print dress, if the print was three dimensional and made of taffeta and based off of a three dimensional mold of her rectal orifice (the only variance would be the color, a neutral cross between white and pink with perhaps a hint of khaki).

The day of the soiree she wore the dress (with matching color suede shoes and no underwear underneath to add, secretly, to the irony) to great aplomb. Today is my "inside-out day, she declared, "what's normally concealed is now revealed, and what we normally show shall be set aside for the morrow; come and touch, don't be hesitant, especially you gentlemen. Even though I'm inerrantly, almost monastically, celibate tonight you can touch and caress my dress and thereby have a feel of what not even by old stable of lovers ever had the audacity (or embarrassment) to feel. Mind you though, make sure your hands are clean, I don't want the slightest smudge or stain on my new anus print dress!"

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The contessa was a famous and quite wealthy eccentric. She was also a devotee of fashion and her eccentricities bled quite frequently into the latter. For an upcoming party she devised the idea of wearing a style of dress that it had never occurred to anyone to design before and, what's more, that would and could only be unique to her. This contessa was a woman over forty, buxom and voluptuous, with a prominent and well formed derriere--though her face was full of freckles. Then one day while looking in the mirror, after having just made use of the commode, it hit her: she asked her private tailor to fashion for her a dress imprinted with a granular pattern that exactly mimicked her anus and no other: it'd be like a leopard print dress, if the print was three dimensional and made of taffeta and based off of a three dimensional mold of her rectum (the only variance would be the color, a neutral cross between white and pink with perhaps a hint of khaki).

The day of the soiree she wore the dress (with matching color suede shoes and no underwear underneath to add, secretly, to the irony) to great aplomb. Today is my "inside-out day," she declared, "what's normally concealed is now revealed, and what we normally show shall be set aside for the morrow; come and touch, don't be hesitant, especially you gentlemen. Even though I'm inerrantly, almost monastically, celibate tonight you can touch and caress my dress and thereby have a feel of what not even by old stable of lovers ever had the audacity (or embarrassment) to touch. Mind you though, make sure your hands are clean, I don't want the slightest smudge or stain on my new anus print dress!"

>> No.19405036

>>19404842
What a lover you must be.

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rate

>> No.19405149

>>19404842
>he can't appreciate what the miracle dopamine and synaptic potentiation is in the creation of feelings of love
>the alchemical transmutation of inanimate molecules into passion and affection
NGMI

>> No.19405195

>>19404867
Noted anon, ty

>>19404893
Can you clarify what you mean by this? I have an idea but I'm unsure of it exactly.

>> No.19405287

>>19405195
i should point out that taking probiotics for gut health might not be a good idea if you have increased intestinal permeability. It is not common knowledge, but it can actually make mental health issues worse in some cases. i learned this the hard way. Probably due to increased exposure to endotoxins.

it turns out that injecting mice with lipopolysaccharides (endotoxin) is used to induce depression, anxiety and psychosis. they induce this to test SSRI's on them.

if you suspect that you have a compromised gut barrier, i would advise not eating foods that ferment too much in the gut. this will increase your exposure to endotoxin, and may make your mental health issues worse.

things that can heal the gut barrier:
>zinc carnosine
>intermittent fasting
>multi day fasting
>glycine
>colostrum

hopefully this helps you in some way

>> No.19405290

>>19404842
>muh neurotransmitters
From where did this obsession with neurotransmitters spread to the great unwashed? The brain is infinitely more complex than serotonin and dopamine levels.

>> No.19405323

>>19405290
People vulgarize science and try to explain everything that happens in their lives in simplistic astrology terms

>> No.19405335

>>19405290
It's shorthand for "we do things because of brain mechanisms"

>> No.19405346

not indulging in self-pity whenever I'm hungry, angry, lonely, tired or drunk really did wonders

>> No.19405353

>>19405335
Brain mechanisms don't invalidate profoundness of conscious experience you monkey

>> No.19405364

>>19405353
They might. It's not clear

>> No.19405436

i don't know

>> No.19405461

Think I might frequent here more than /tv/ now. Still take a few peeks at /r9k/ for enlightening purposes. /lit/ is a nice middle ground.

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Most if not all my desires and aspirations are for things that do not exist, will not exist and will never exist, save a few select things which only exist becuase I made sure of it

>> No.19405507

>>19401975
I live there, AMA

>> No.19405544

>>19405507
what did you have for breakfast?

>> No.19405584

>>19405461
what do you like about /r9k/?

>> No.19405592

>>19405584
The cynicism and self delusion

>> No.19405636

>>19405479
Keep reading more and maybe do some ketamine, I guarantee your aspiration for cringy garbage like your pic will go away.

>> No.19405638

>>19405584
Sometime they are funny and it was one of the first boards I lurked, around ten years ago.

>> No.19405647

>>19402268
out of all these i only saw Blade because i was a child

>> No.19405657

>>19401702
Abrahamic religion is true in the most convoluted way. God and human are one and the same, wanting to be God is at the bottom of ethics and human endeavor. In the end, man will create heaven and earth. Wishes are incompatible, that's why there is only one. In fact, the Abrahamic worldview is the pinnacle of materialism, if they took their own theology seriously. It recognises that there is no answer to ethics, only a solution. The problem still remains of why the self exists, that is the fundamental problem; the only spiritual one, as in, seemingly unanswerable by physics. I probably sound a bit schizo, and I do feel a bit schizo, everything revolves around the material(the "non-materialistic" Abrahamic is in full agreement, since Heaven is literally feel-good wish fulfillment according to a program, or more crudely, junkies forever; again, if they took their own theology seriously), yet the very question of our existence is immaterial. It seems there is no explanation to anything at the bottom.

>> No.19405663

>>19402615
never happened unless sauce please

>> No.19405669

>>19405657
>wanting to be God is at the bottom of ethics and human endeavor. In the end, man will create heaven and earth
You sound like you're taking mormonism and applying it to all Abrahamic faith.

>> No.19405686

>>19405669
Not really, that's the root of it. Whether it was conscious but corrupted, or unconscious, I don't know, but that's what it is. It's basically what will happen if there is no limit to technology- anyone can do whatever they want, and noone can stop anyone. So people just mold their own playworld. The only ethic is personal will, and it can be a jealous God indeed.

>> No.19405812

A mass of scales moved within the darkness, the moonlight creeping in from the crevasse in the rock walls of the cave glancing off of them. Arehanna wanted to run, but she fought against the instinct. Her visions had not failed her thus far.
Even so, she couldn’t help but tremble at the sight before her: A giant, winged lizard craned its neck towards her, spreading its wings to reveal its blackened, scaled body.
Suddenly, a booming voice echoed throughout the chamber, and Arehanna took a step back, reeling from its sheer magnitude.
“Hark, woman!” The beast spoke, its terrifying visage trained upon the young girl. “You need not fear, for I will not harm you.”
Arehanna shivered in fright before the massive creature, her legs threatening to buckle beneath her in sheer awe at the beast before her. The thing’s voice was shaking her to her core, rumbling in her ears like an earthquake. Still, she tried to wrangle the quavering of her voice, and present herself as someone becoming of the mantle of Queen of Alceoth.
“I am not afraid, dragon!”
“Lies are unbecoming of you, my Queen.” The beast replied, a soft chuckle in his voice. “And were it true, your foolishness would be shameful. But I require neither your fear nor your courage – rather, I desire your attention, and nothing more. That, after all, is why I have guided you here to this place.”

>> No.19405821

>>19405812
Awesome, try to include the word "ovipositor" in the next installment!

>> No.19405866

>>19405657
>Abrahamic religion is true in the most convoluted way.
Not really
>In fact, the Abrahamic worldview is the pinnacle of materialism, if they took their own theology seriously.
Part of why they are wrong, materialism is low tier

The word 'God' as we understand it in the Abrahamic world is a confused meaningless buzzword.
God in the bible describes the demiurge.
God and Satan are basically the same thing in the way they are described in the bible.
The demiurge is in charge of this material plane as is a semi living machine, unable to hear your thoughts or your prayers, not a fully alive and fully omni 'God' - omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient etc, he isn't powerful enough to have those things, even in this place where he is governor.
He can't hear you.
People who think they are worshipping Satan are just interacting with demons.
There are many troublesome spirits around, and they should not be contacted. Magic, psychic phenomena, all of it is low level spirituality and will cause problems if you pursue it.
The only worthwhile direction is refinement of the spirit.

To refine your spirit is to connect to what is beyond our realm, beyond the jurisdiction of the demiurge. That is why there is an emphasis on looking past material things in Buddhist traditions.
Karma is a dirty low energy that accumulates on those who hold on too tightly to the material plane and its distractions.

>> No.19405867

I'm working on a story but I don't know where to take things beyond the instigating event. I'm just doing an exercise where I write "what are the consequences" and from there asking myself "why does x matter" and it feels like I'm taking steps into uncharted territories. I like it.

>> No.19405873

>>19405544
Cookies and cold tea

>> No.19405879

>>19405479
Good taste in men

>> No.19405889

>>19405479
Best catboy

>> No.19405908

No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham, for I have made you the father of a multitude of nations.
Genesis 17:5

That came true

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who else taking the /bureaucratpill/
populists and autocrats are a cancer and wild raging beasts that wreak havoc on society

>> No.19405930

>>19405913
>Populists and autocrats are a cancer and wild raging beasts that wreak havoc on society

That's why I'm a social democrat.

>> No.19405940

>>19405930
i'm a communist on principle but i've been flirting with the idea of demsoc lately

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>>19405940
Social democracy seems the best way to go.

>> No.19405971

>>19405970
Wonder if theres any other common factor there LOL

>> No.19405991

>>19405971
a history of comprehensive social democratic reform?
also the UK and US really aren't that far behind, and they're partially socdem themselves too

>> No.19406004

>>19405971
They're hwhite social democratic countries but Austria is hwhiter than Canada.

>> No.19406016

>>19406004
And higher on that list than a lot of hwiter countries not listed.

>> No.19406022

>>19405970
they finally dare to define happiness as some political bullshit based in income and social protection.

>> No.19406039

>>19406022
It doesn't say income it says GDP per capita, social protection, health and life expectancy, generosity, and corruption perception as weighted Categories.

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Here is another one
>The 2021 Best Countries rankings, formed in partnership with BAV Group and the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, are based on a study that surveyed more than 17,000 global citizens from four regions to assess perceptions of 78 countries on 76 different metrics. The Quality of Life subranking is based on an equally weighted average of scores from nine country attributes that relate to quality of life in a country: affordable, a good job market, economically stable, family friendly, income equality, politically stable, safe, well-developed public education system and well-developed public health system.

>> No.19406052

>>19406044
yeah nah, canada ain't that
all of these rankings are bullshit

>> No.19406054

>>19406052
Cope

>> No.19406066

>>19406044
>>19406052 is right these rankings are bullshit
go look up what nords think about always winning these lists, they all think its ridiculous and dumb as fuck.
no country is perfect
t. Canadian

>> No.19406078

>>19406066
Not perfect but better than most places

>> No.19406087

>>19406078
I'm also Canadian

>> No.19406093

I’m married and I have a thing for sleeping with other married women

>> No.19406101

>>19406039
i know. what do you think it means corruption perception?, or health and life expectancy?. it goes down to a political/social approach to happiness. anyway what im trying to say is that is an elusive word highly subjective, you shouldn´t do this kind of thing, its manipulative and, in a way, inhuman.

>> No.19406110

>>19406078
yea but even then what does that even mean? there's too many factors to generalize happiness on

>> No.19406123

>>19406101
Corruption perception would be how corrupt you think the government is and health and life expectancy can be quantified with how much disease people have and how long they live. It's subjective but humans view their country in a subjective way.

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>>19405970
Not just white, they're all Germanic apart from Finland.

>> No.19406128

>>19406110
Well it's a survey they used 76 metrics, maybe it's wrong but Canadians must like their country a lot if it's rated highest.

>> No.19406132

>>19406125
Meant for>>19406004

>> No.19406137

I wants me a caucasian wife

>> No.19406149

>>19406123
>you think the government
>the government
think in what you write
>It's subjective but humans view their country in a subjective way.
>view their country
>country
thats my point. happiness is not about your country, i think, at least, it shouldn´t be about it. this is a government telling you in what happiness consist. pretty ugly.
>>19406110
>>19406128
at least that survey it´s about quality of life. not about happiness, they have that decency.

>> No.19406159

>>19406149
>thats my point. happiness is not about your country, i think, at least, it shouldn´t be about it. this is a government telling you in what happiness consist.
It'd a survey not government telling people what happiness is, but the people did elect governments to institute these policies.

>> No.19406160

The earlier I get up, the shorter and emptier the days feel. Maybe it's just daylight savings, but I think it's the crushing loneliness.

>> No.19406183

>>19406159
no, its a survey defining what happiness is based in governments reaching things. not personal, not human. the only one maybe it´s freedom of choice, but is almost 100% secure they refer to some freedom of speech or some shit like that. come on man, its manipulative. its not really that hard to grasp. you should be door by door asking people what is happiness to them and if they are happy, not making an almost random election of what be happy is and then saying what country is happy based in that assumptions that you invent in first place.

>> No.19406201

>>19406160
Waking up at like noon and going to sleep at like 4am is simply the most comfy sleep schedule. Had a job with hours exactly suited to that once. I would be fine never experiencing a "morning" again. "Its bright and weird and you feel like you're on drugs for no reason" no thank you, who could like this.

>> No.19406213

>>19406183
But those government reaching things make a difference in the general happiness of the people, social protection and health effect individuals. And those individuals elect governments to enact these policies. Even the most right wing groups in Europe would not get rid of their universal Healthcare.

>> No.19406235

>>19402521
I can feel just enough to get hurt but not enough to move myself to action that would get me out of my situation.

>> No.19406252

>>19406213
what are you trying to say?. im not denying healthcare can be important. can be part of happiness. or even all the things they put in that survey. i dont care. im saying equating good healthcare=happiness is a problem and an inhuman and a completely political, mechanicist view of happiness, something that is not, happiness is another type of concept. based in interiority, almost poetic if you want. this is beareaucrats defining things. and it fuck with me personally this kind of shit, i feel we don´t have to comformate with that shit. look, the survey about "quality of life" is almost the same as "happiness". thats sad.

>> No.19406274

I spent most of the first half of this year reading deeply into philosophy books and came out of it just feeling alone and dejected. I decided that I was tired of overthinking my life and wanted to live more based on gut feeling than strategy. I also came here and voiced some of my concerns about how seeking philosophical truth seemed only to alienate me further from friends and family, and just leave me with more questions, except more mentally isolated.

I got some advice that 1) I should follow the Dao and the way of things and 2) I should be looking for those who are looking for me. Anyway, I thought a lot about what I had read, and the things that people here said that really resonated with me. I kind of threw my life into the air, sold my house, cheated on my wife and slept with my best (female) friend of 15 years and and then moved to a new country. My life is more or less in a state of highly energetic constant chaos, and I am so much happier than I was before. I am in a constant state of a sort of wild W curve of emotions, but its so much more interesting to me to have the extremes of feeling and thought than my previous state of just trudging into my wagie grave. I have no idea what will happen next, but I am confident that whatever happens, it will be alright, and moreover, it will be interesting. I'm also making a lot more money than I used to, so there's that. L'chaim bros.

>> No.19406294

>>19406252
>healthcare=happiness is a problem and an inhuman and a completely political, mechanicist view of happiness, something that is not, happiness is another type of concept

That wasn't whole equation of the survey. All those things together can get a subjective view of things. People generally do things that enhance their lives to make then happier. So electing governments that enact social protections and Healthcare would make people happier where people know that their tax dollars go to helping their fellow citizens. As opposed to America where people go bankrupt because of health bills and the government doesn't negotiate drug prices because their government is bought out by the drug lobby.

>> No.19406319

>>19406274
lmao

Just wanted to let you know that I found your midlife crisis hilarious.

>> No.19406322

>>19406319
I'm 27 bro

>> No.19406334

>>19406322
even funnier

>> No.19406366
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Harsh

>> No.19406399

>>19406274
That kind of instability is not sustainable over a long period of time. You can easily get addicted to seeking out strong emotions and it's quite the self-destructive behavior.

>> No.19406455

>>19406366
pretty disrespectful and uncalled for

>> No.19406457

>>19406366
musk is a has-been who has already used up all of his good ideas

>> No.19406461

>>19406455
Grifters deserve no respect.

>> No.19406476

Are there any movies or television shows that can live up to True Detective S1?

>> No.19406479

>>19406457
Most of his good ideas were not his. He just came later and took credit for them.

>> No.19406480

Real G's move in silence like lasagna.

>> No.19406509

>>19406274
>feeling alone and dejected
>has a wife, friends, a job and a house

>> No.19406521

>>19406509
so did the buddha

>> No.19406538

>>19406476
true detective was the last time i enjoyed a tv show. that shit was actually good. not great mind you, but good enough to watch every week.

>> No.19406540

>>19406521
I don't think the buddha responded by cheating on his wife and trying to accrue more material possessions tho

>> No.19406542

>>19406476
The Wire

>> No.19406543

>>19406476
try the original twin peaks? i haven't seen it since the 90s but the last time i watched the movie it was still good af

>> No.19406546

>>19406540
no, i think anon is clearly retarded, just saying that having those boxes checked doesn't necessarily make one happy or fulfilled. see: any number of celebrity suicides

>> No.19406555

>>19406538
I think it was great. It’s the best TV show I’ve ever seen. The philosophical underpinnings, the transformation from start to finish, the southern gothic, the absurd, the mystical, the magical, the perfectly real. All of these things together made it almost perfect.

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Garreth's life part 1

After 17 grueling lonely years of dealing with his abusive father after his mother died from child birth, Garreth decided it was time to leave. He packed all of his clothes he could and left the house. He did all of this in the middle of the night while his father was sleeping. Garreth knows how cranky he can get with his physical beatings and yelling at him. Garreth picked up a gas can and headed to a gas station near by. He paid the gas station attendant $20 and then filled up the gas tank with diesel gas. Garreth found his grandfather on his mother's side's car still in it's hidden garage, A 1976 Chevy truck that's still pressumed to be in good condition and still runs. All that's need to be done now is the tarp needs to be thrown off and ready to drive. Garreth has no license, but has been practicing driving with his acquaintances while they were drinking to parties and he drove them back home. Cops drove right past him while he was doing this. Garreth dropped out of high school after being forced to by his abusive father to do chores around the house and to find a job to pay for bills. Garreth is still suffering belt whip pain from getting fired from a dishwashing job his father forced him to go to. Garreth breathed and got in the truck. He breathed heavily remembering how his father had a way with words in convincing the cops to make him stay at the house. Garreth also worried about cops during curfew. But then he remembered what one of his friends said about him. "You're tall as shit dude. You look like you're in your 20's not 17. Shit I'd thought you'd be in college by now." and then Garreth breathed heavily, put the keys in the ignition and drove the truck off. Garreth drove as far as the city limits, then the highway, then the state limits, and as far as 3 states before the truck broke down. Turned out the truck needed more work than he thought. Now he's 17 years old and trapped on a bridge to Kansas City. Garreth walked and walked in the cold air with his hoodie over his head, cars passed by honking their horns at him, and even one guy in a car threw a beer can at him and yelled, "GET A JOB YOU BUM!". Garreth knew he was in for a long journey ahead in Kansas City. He hasn't eatten for days and is thirsty. He only had $20 for mowing the grass at someone's lawn while he gave all of his work checks to his father before he was fired. Now Garreth is on his own in the streets.

>> No.19406593
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>>19406476
Fargo

>> No.19406628

>>19406591
i hope Garreth has some better fortune in part 2 :(

>> No.19406824
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What made this so compelling for people?

>> No.19406842

>>19406824
Sex, violence, drama, interesting escapist setting

>> No.19406849

>>19406842
Plenty of shows that tick all those boxes. It had to be something more.

>> No.19406855

>>19406849
decent dialogue, multi-dimensional characters, no punch-pulling

>> No.19406860

I want to do things but I lack the discipline to consistently do them and thus do those things. Actually, I don’t know if it’s really disciple. It’s more like this feeling which undergirds everything that tells me something “it’s useless”.

>> No.19406865

>>19406824
first big fantasy franchise since harry potter, as well as >>19406842 >>19406855

>> No.19406869

>>19406824
Dany should have won

>> No.19406875

>>19406860
same, it’s because it is useless

>> No.19406889

>>19406860
>It’s more like this feeling which undergirds everything that tells me something “it’s useless”.
I have this because I feel like no matter what I do, AI will come in my lifetime and either destroy everyone or make humans obsolete. Oh, and runaway global warming or ecological collapse is probably going to happen, resulting in total societal collapse. It's hard to care about anything, knowing this.

>> No.19406897

>>19406849
Martin writes complex conflicted characters who seem real because of how much shit they contain and how much shit you've seen them go through, and the show toned them down from their book versions just enough to hit a sweet spot of complexity so that every normie could pick a favorite and gamble on whether they'd survive next week, while picking a favorite to hate and hoping they get raped and murdered next week.

As soon as the show departed from Martin's source material it stagnated, the characters still had velocity but no more acceleration. This became more apparent over time, as nothing "new" was being added to the characters, in fact they were being flattened and levelled down to the actual generic stock characters the showrunners would have written if they hadn't had Martin's source material to begin with.

By the late seasons there was nothing left and it was a trainwreck with characters who you sort of remember knowing but don't know anymore because they've been retards for so long, and now you mostly want to see everyone die.

Also something becoming popular initially because of merit will then explode in hyper-popularity as it becomes the established Think Everyone Likes Now and normies like it for the sake of liking it. It increased the weird factor of the show being unrecognizable past season 5 that that is when it really took off with normies, and for everyone going "wtf why is everyone so retarded" in the last season there were a billion normies who were genuinely shocked that Dany became Hitler.

That also made the last season fun to watch because it was a total catastrophic failure, and watching Dany become Hitler in one episode and normies freak out about it after naming their kids after her was fun.

>> No.19406909

>>19406889
See, I don’t place the blame on AI or any future state or anything. I just feel that I’m inadequate and simultaneously some metaphysical structure of the world is also inadequate and thus it’s useless. I think if you’re worried about AI, you can rest easy because it won’t render you obsolete. I can’t speak to climate change.

>> No.19406912

>>19402093
Top quality breeding material right here

>> No.19406914

>>19406909
>because it won’t render you obsolete.
Why won't it? AI can already write stories or make art. Hell, it can already do programming. It makes me worried.

>> No.19406921

I have no thoughts only feelings

>> No.19406927

>>19406921
are you a female?

>> No.19406967

>>19406927
no

>> No.19406998

>>19406476
deadwood, the wire and mad men were all bretty gud

>> No.19407011

>>19406967
would you like to be?

>> No.19407100

>>19407011
I'm not sure it matters that much.

>> No.19407101

>>19407011
dead

>> No.19407154

>>19407011
hahahaha

you should be a therapist anon

>> No.19407156

kind of cringe question but where should I go if I want to meet less normie people in real life? people who are a bit weird? I just want to not depend on the internet so much

>> No.19407166

>>19407156
4chan
4chan meetups
Drug dens

>> No.19407167

>>19402268
>batman vs superman
>amazing

Holy shit bro you’re retarded

>> No.19407236

I'm thinking about becoming a gold/silversmith/jewelcutter and getting an apprenticeship from someone through a charisma check to sell overpriced jewelry and learn a more practical/physical skill

>> No.19407238

>>19407156
>>19407156
1. Go to bars, if you are friendly enough you'll start a conversation with someone interesting. May take some persistence and stepping out of your comfort zone.
2. Look up meetups for people with similar interests as you.

Try not to focus on meeting eccentric people though, that's a one-way ticket to getting axed. Just focus on meeting new people and be a good listener to them.

>> No.19407279

>>19407156
wherever normies don't congregate

>> No.19407301

>>19407279
so everywhere lol?

>> No.19407309

>>19407301
sure
i guess less "normie" and more "middle class"
so like, anywhere that isn't a city

>> No.19407463

I'm fucking looking at wojack's for my senior level english college class.

>> No.19407469

>>19407463
That doesn’t make sense.
You shouldn’t even have a folder of them as a freshman

>> No.19407485

>>19407469
I mean it's part of an assignment.

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>>19407469

>> No.19407532

>>19407485
What is the assignment?

>> No.19407537

>>19406476
Succession has been pretty good so far but this season has been a bit mediocre desu. Still worth a watch.

>> No.19407564

I need xex

>> No.19407567

>>19407532
Making a meme out of a play scene. Some people did wojacks.

>> No.19407572

>>19407567
>english class
>"making a meme"

This is truly hell.

>> No.19407575

>>19401712
I'm debating that at 28 and feel like an idiot

>> No.19407582

New thread
>>19407570
>>19407570
>>19407570

>> No.19407584 [DELETED] 

how do you decide between re-reading the same book vs reading a new book on the same subject

reading the same book ingrains the phrasing in your mind so it sticks

but reading new books offers new perspectives

what should the ratio be of reading the same book to reading new books

>> No.19407592

>>19407582
Why so consistent with the forgetting the link?

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>>19407584
You will KNOW

>> No.19407616

>>19407156
>think of a weird interest
>find a meetup for that thing

>> No.19407636

>>19404842
Reddit

>> No.19407937

https://youtu.be/JMb1Kyl1r0A v_v

>> No.19408052

>>19404558
based

>> No.19408075

>>19401702
So what I vomited a little blood? That doesn't matter
I'm healthy
I'm 23
You won't get me that easy
I'm quite well

>> No.19408086

>>19401702
I weigh less and exercise more than my peers
Am I supposed to believe I'm dying?
I don't buy it

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Just resubbed to audible. They roped me in with 4 months fo 50% off. I figure $28 for 4 audiobooks ain't bad. I'm thinking of getting more Caiphus Cain, I really enjoyed book one even though it was only 10 hours or so.

I also need to finish the 1st volume of shadowrun series by Robert N. Charrette. It was a slow burn to start but it dives deep once his waifu gets roasted and you get into some real shway shit.

In that same vein I also started listening to Gotrek and Felix by William King. It didn't really stick for me but I hadn't really given it a lot of time. The narrations from all these selections are pretty good. I do like the violent dwarf voice of Gotrek. I really need to give that one more time.

>What's On Your Mind?!
midlife crisis. I'm probably going to die poor and I'm too lazy to finish any project I start so I won't even leave any sort of legacy that I existed. I'll be going back to work in December. If my meme stocks/coins don't moon I'll resolve myself to the banal exchange of my life for fiat currency.

>> No.19408226

>>19408126
>paying money for fucking audiobooks
>I'm probably going to die poor
I wonder why. you sound like a huge faggot who deserves it at least, so that should give you some comfort

>> No.19408234

>>19401702
If I had a little too much to drink
That's neither here nor there
We've all done that
And the only thing that separates me from you is a matter of degree and frequency
And I'm not the least bit embarrassed about it
Matter fact I hope YOU experience it
I'm on to something here

>> No.19408288

>>19401702
Damn
I should've bought
Some motherfucking
Cigarettes

>> No.19409266

>>19407567
>making a meme out of a play scene
>senior-level English class
This cannot be real.

>> No.19409437

>>19404558
>Sex is not "smashing your genitals" together to me, it's a spiritual act full of meaning.
Chance she's painfully unsatisfied and going elsewhere for proper caveman sex: 100%

>> No.19409533

>>19408126
>I won't even leave any sort of legacy that I existed.
Of course you're never going to finish a project if you're doing it to leave a legacy (don't even get me started on how retarded this concept is). Human instincts don't care about legacies and you're not going to generate lasting motivation by having that as you're goal. The people who finish projects do it because they find DOING the project addictive, satisfying, and puzzling.

>> No.19409569

>>19407575
If you use it as an opportunity to save money and learn to fix and repair everything in their house (really not hard, most contractors are half retarded. get a book on home maintenance and use some youtube), then you can go buy your own house after a while, which is by far the cheapest way to live if you do most of the maintenance yourself.

>> No.19409604

>>19406274
>My life is more or less in a state of highly energetic constant chaos, and I am so much happier than I was before. I am in a constant state of a sort of wild W curve of emotions, but its so much more interesting to me to have the extremes of feeling and thought than my previous state of just trudging into my wagie grave.
Your life is now closer to that of an animal, which is why you're happier. It's what you're bred for.