/lit/ - Literature

>He didn’t unspook this thought
What a spook thread

>>19404638
Dummy, you’re not supposed to renounce all spooks. You use them as you want, as your property. Avoiding spooks because you misunderstood some dead German guy with a big forehead is spooked. Basically just do whatever the hell you want

>>19404670
This. Once you realize how spooky everything is, you just make sure you own them instead of vice versa.

>>19404638
>It seems like grasping onto a spook is necessary to do anything in one's life
no?

>>19404670
But how am I supposed to know what I want? I'm not trying to do a hey gotcha moment I'm generally confused about where I go from here

I got into the issue because I started thinking fuck it I don't need to make loads of money in my life I can start growing my own food and using solar panels for electricity etc, but as I started doing this I realized that I was just following the spook of being self sufficient for the sake of it, but then I thought if all I did was try and earn more so I don't need to be self sufficient then I'm also spooked - but then if I try to follow the middle ground I'm also spooked. Any mindset I'm put in is a spook, but without any goal, I don't even know what pleases my ego because I need a fake goal to create it

>>19404713
Explain?

>>19404728
Hey I feel you. I started Stirner for similar reasons. Like another anon said, thought is a spook too. If you overthink things you will fall prey to self-deception. Why? Imo, it’s because we presume thoughts = ego and ego = self. I thought the same. But this isn’t true. Our wants and desires rise from a deeper place than our ego. I suggest reading Jung. A good starting place is Man And His Symbols. Also try meditating. It personally helped me figure out what I want in life

>>19404735
you don't need to earnestly believe in and espouse a spook to do anything in modern life
stirner is kinda useless cuz this is just something you realize on your own if you have 2 brain cells to rub together. still a nice book kind of

>>19404728
You do realize Stirner was a nihilist? This is not compatible with a notion of real and meaningful goal that you seek.

>>19404752
I'm genuinely curious - how does meditation help you figure out such things? What kind of meditation is it?

>>19404752
Thanks for the advice anon - I'll have a look into Jung and meditating

>>19404770
I'm asking what to do, not how to do it

>>19404787
I'm not too interested of Stirner, the human being, more his ideas - what does him being a nihilist have to do with anything?

>>19404803
huh so you're like a robot

>>19404811
I was talking about his ideas. His framework doesn't allow for a meaningful non-spooky ideals or goals. It's not a bad thing, it's just how it is.

>>19404638
you gotta surf on those spooks

>>19404728
>how am I supposed to know what I want?
try doing things

>>19404787
I’ve done a few kinds over the past year. Mindfulness is the most popular right now. There are tons of free guides online and on YouTube. I’d suggest starting with 10 minute guided mindfulness meditations. Be consistent with that daily. From there you can start doing unguided and work up to more time if you want. Once you’re experienced you can do insight meditation. This is where you ask yourself questions and observe the answers that arise. I usually ask myself “who am I?” and “dissolve” wrong answers. It’s like peeling layers of an onion. Anyway, this has helped me understand myself better and how my mind works. I have a clearer picture now of what thoughts are “true” and what aren’t. After meditating for a while you can sort of “listen” to yourself and know what your real desires are

>>19404815
Umm so only robots look for the meaning of life? Nice one bud

>>19404878
How's it not a bad thing? And which spook should I choose then?

>>19404889
Like what? No matter what I try I adhere to some mindset that doesn't benefit me - even having a definition for good music means I'm now incased in a spook - it's hard to do anything enjoyable when what is enjoyable is defined by myself

>>19404638
Nope. You've got it. Now go do what you want.

>>19404972
>what is enjoyable is defined by myself
it truly isn't, throw some psychoanalysis into your view

>>19405011
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WANT TO DO ARRGHHHH

>>19404728
>But how am I supposed to know what I want?

you re dumbass. I wont elobrate further.

>>19404947
yes.

>>19404638
You're now liberated OP. All you need to do is stop thinking (cause that's where books originate) and start living and exploring fun or interesting ideas (that appeal to your ego/desires) to find out what you want. Just see it as a fun journey. Have fun

>>19404638
Congratulations, you figured out that stirner is retarded

>>19405368
He's not retarded, just too right to get anywhere

>>19405399
You failed the IQ test

>>19404638
it's meeeeeeeeee le troll he he

>>19405407
>doesn't know that IQ is a spook

>>19404735
if you haven't figured this out by now, read Nietzsche. Beware that he was moderately spooked though.