/lit/ - Literature

Woman fingers slowly typed this post after 24 years of operating a computer daily and never achieving higher than a 70WPM

I can see the mug brownie crumbs and long brown hairs in your macbook keyboard through your post OP

>>19394700
Nice one bro. How's the creative writing workshop going?

>>19394708
Good, I locked them in the community center basement and threw away the key a week ago.

>>19394700
Seething with jealousy. How does it feel to know some roastie's trash will be more important and historically relevant than the entire body of /lit/'s work and each of its authors, including you?

>>19394743
Rooney's agent posts here?

>>19394773
This is one way to act humble.

>>19394678
it was very boring. i didnt even finish it. it's funny and appropriate that it has been adapted as a Hulu tv mini series.

>>19394678
the book's a solid 5 out of 10, but it's unlikely to cure incelitis in many cases.

>>19394678
Saturday night and shitposting on lit.
what a sad life.

>>19394832
It's sad to think you are are more entertained by your own 'witty' observational jokes than an intimate romance novel but reading isn't for everyone I guess. I think the tv series is more your speed.

>>19394897
I'm not an incel, but I am somewhat socially isolated and it did make me feel quite lonely reading it, I would love to be as close with someone as Marianne and Connell are. And I would hope /lit/ users would have the maturity to look past the sex but the ones that aren't probably wouldn't pick up the book in the first place.

>>19394934
Not a shit post anon, but yeah it is a sad life. And I didn't even know it was a Saturday, ty for reminding me :(

>>19394678
yeah it's a decent contemporary book; nothing wrong with it

>>19394700
>never achieving higher than a 70WPM
My wpm is like 20 and I don't care. Fast typing is for the secretaries I fuck, die faggot nerd.

>>19395023
Funny! I really brought all the comedians with this post didn't I.

>>19394743
>>19394678

Marianne answers the door when Connell rings the bell. She's still wearing her school uniform, but she's taken off the sweater, so it's just the blouse and skirt, and she has no shoes on, only tights.
Oh, hey, he says.
Come on in.
She turns and walks down the hall. He follows her, closing the door behind him. Down a few steps in the kitchen, his mother Lorraine is peeling off a pair of rubber gloves. Marianne hops onto the countertop and picks up an open jar of chocolate spread, in which she has left a teaspoon.
Marianne was telling me you got your mock results today, Lorraine says.
We got English back, he says. They come back separately. Do you want to head on?
Lorraine folds the rubber gloves up neatly and replaces them below the sink. Then she starts unclipping her hair. To Connell this seems like something she could accomplish in the car.
And I hear you did very well, she says.
He was top of the class, says Marianne.
Right, Connell says. Marianne did pretty good too. Can we go?
Lorraine pauses in the untying of her apron.
I didn't realize we were in a rush, she says.
He puts his hands in his pockets and suppresses an irritable sigh, but suppresses it with an audible intake of breath, so that it still sounds like a sigh.

>>19394678

>>19395083
Better and more relevant than /lit/. A brutal mog by a fucking roastie toastie

>>19395083
Did you want to say what's wrong with the novel?

>>19395088
Did you want to say what's wrong with the novel?

>>19395030
Awful retort.

>>19395116
>Awful retort.

>>19394678
I agree and have been saying similar things

Imagine reading a book written by a person named Sally lmfao

>>19394743
>How does it feel to know some roastie's trash will be more important and historically relevant
It will be relegated to the dustbin once the current zeitgeist is over. The state of things that has elevated it is only a temporary affair.

>>19395103
>Did you want to say what's wrong with the novel?
Sure, I guess. It's vapid. It's boring. It's poorly written. The sentences are simple, repetitive, and dry. The word choice is bland, the syntax uninspired. No attention has been paid to how anything flows or connnect to anything else. I just finished reading the passage that I quoted and already I don't remember anything about it other than the mother had rubber gloves on. All of the author's creative effort seems to have gone into describing what the boring characters are wearing. There is no beauty. There is substance. There is no emotion. There is no soul. There is no greater literary ambition. Not one person will be reading this one hundred years from now. It hides its inability behind postmodern irony. If this had been posted in a /lit/ critique thread you would all rightly call it the boring flailing of an amateur. Most often, when you read Melville, McCarthy, even fucking Tao Lin at times, you get the impression that care has been taken with every syllable on the page. The writing flows like music and it has things to say. There is a purpose to every word and every sentence. You finish it a different person than you started. This book is the opposite of that. I get the feeling this passage was written in ten minutes in a Starbucks by someone more in love with the idea of being a writer than with writing.

>>19395103
It's pointless garbage for idiots. That is why you like it so much.

>>19394678
I will never read it because the guy in the tv adaptation looks like a low IQ construction worker.

>>19395103
I don't regard myself as sexist, but I would genuinely prefer /lit/ if women didn't post here.

>>19395285
This is excellent. There's more passion, skill, and style in this paragraph than the entirety of Rooney's oeuvre.

>>19395285
I'm starting to recognise your writing style and I want you to please keep posting on /lit/

>>19395285
Anon I would say you’re going into the reading in bad faith. You are ignoring the context in which that passage was quoted, they are two teenagers, both crushing on each other and an awkward uncomfortable atmosphere is demanded of the writing, which was appropriately delivered by Rooney with clunky and awkward short sentences and attention to detail you would feel when avoiding a conversation. I don't know if you've read the whole book, I can understand if someone were to find it boring and unrelatable, but I think you are being harsh, particularly on the writing and the emotional depth of the novel. I felt genuine anxiety for the characters at times because they felt very real to me and I do think people will be reading in future for the sincere image of human life it depicts of the 21st century. The feelings of the characters and why they felt the way they did was made obvious, and that might make the novel simplistic, but in a real relationship, when the opposite is true, when there is fear and anxiety over unrequited love and complications are everywhere, a romance where sincerity takes precedence is comfortingly intimate and an excellent portrayal of love and human nature.

>>19395330
Pls refer to the above

>>19395375
Not a woman. And funny you complain about the quality of the board, yet you are contributing nothing to the discussion except snide remarks.

>>19395381
You are easily impressed, you should read more.

Watch the BBC show the girl is mega cute

>>19395426
The cutie cashier at Waterstones told me I should watch the show too, but yeah she is adorable.

>>19395421
>Not a woman.
And yet you come across as one.

>except snide remarks.
And complimentary (You)s to people who do contribute positively -- and at least I'm not cluttering up the board with Rooneyana.

>you should read more.
Shouldn't we all?

>>19395439
If you want to improve the quality of the board then have a discussion you faggot, tell me why I'm wrong. And don't think you are baiting me either, this is my thread and you are only bumping it for me and I will continue to call you stupid until you leave. So please tell me I'm woman, tranny, fag etc, you are only helping me out.

>>19395459
The faster it rises, the sooner it dieses.

>>19395030
>cunty and joyless
woman

>>19395421
>The feelings of the characters and why they felt the way they did was made obvious, and that might make the novel simplistic, but in a real relationship, when the opposite is true, when there is fear and anxiety over unrequited love and complications are everywhere, a romance where sincerity takes precedence is comfortingly intimate and an excellent portrayal of love and human nature.
interesting take but this will go over the virgin head

>>19395285
Melville is boring. Nobody remembers fuck all from Moby Dick, and nothing happens.

>>19395504
Your joke wasn't funny bro, don't know what to tell you :\

>>19395533
I still think virgins would be able to relate to the fear of rejection, but I suppose the deeper part of a relationship where true feelings are involved would be unfamiliar.

This was the weirdest scene in the book

>>19394678
You’re the same mfr that posted this drivel in my thread the other day. How come you get so salty about people calling this book garbage?

>>19395566
Because this website isn't just for whiny incels to hate on things for the sake of hating them? Or hating women because their mothers didn't love them enough? Have you considered going outside?

>>19395554
Based roastie

>>19395566
I finished the book literally a few hours ago, this is the first post I have made about it, I think you have the wrong person.

>>19395569
>Incels hate women because of parental neglect and not as a reaction to maladaptive behaviors that were never straightened out by their failed father figures
You need to keep studying for that sociology degree

>woman
Dropped

>>19395586
>>19395732
Great, what this thread needs is definitely more basement dwellers.

I'm literally in the process of what it doing right now. I saw that normal people thread a few days ago and picked up the book and I gotta say, it's good.

>>19395083
I can definitely agree that the writing style falls into the white woman wish fulfillment teir of over explaining minor details but the characters themselves are the main selling point of the book and to that the white woman style lends itself well to that imo

>>19394678
i can believe there are books written this millenia were good, but there is no way any of them were written by women, not in the past decade at least

>>19394743
>historically relevant
she'll be forgotten in 5 years and is just barely scratching relevancy now, at her peak

>>19395916
Me too anon, I didn't read the thread but it coincided with a trip to the bookstore the next day and I bought it on impulse, and I don't regret it either.

>>19395963
Don't just say books anon, give me name. If you're going to shit out a hot take at least commit to it.

>>19395993
>is just barely scratching relevancy now
It got renewed for season 2 on tv dummy.

>>19396011
Is this a tranny? He looks like he smells bad.

>>19396019
Please refer to >>19395459

it's girl brain and low t tier.

i thought it was pretty funny how connell was all these things: star striker on high school soccer team, gets winning goals, gets laid yet at the same time scoffs at his friends for sharing nudes, is actually really sensitive on the inside, gets book deal, then at the end literally threatens to beat up the girl's brother bc he bullied her (the way typical of brothers n sisters)

her brother was also a laughably evil projection of small town blokes who never leave their hometown. she showed him zero sympathy throughout the course of it from what i remember bc idk? to build sympathy for sally rooney's self insert? to show that even though she was wealthy she still had difficulties?? lmao it was just elliot rodgers for arthoes.

>>19396171
Another incel review, unsolicited.

>>19396171
Is this bait? Alan literally physically and emotionally abused Marianne her whole life, it is a constant source of tension for the characters throughout the whole novel. The climax of the book Alan throws a beer bottle at Marianne and then breaks her nose and then Connell threatens to kill him if he hurt her again and still after that didn't apologise or fix his behaviour. I don't even want to engage with any more of your post just how plainly wrong you got the plot, it makes me doubt wether you actually read the book at all.

>>19396193
>The climax of the book Alan throws a beer bottle at Marianne and then breaks her nose and then Connell threatens to kill him if he hurt her again and still after that didn't apologise or fix his behaviour.
Why did you spoil the climax of the book?

>>19396203
I assumed you had read it already given we were over 50 replies into the thread, but whatever.

>>19396193
oh no emotional abuse from a sibling - waaaaah


the bottle was thrown in anger and never hit the girl and he breaks her nose on accident closing a door.

>didn't fix his behavior

the book literally ends right after

>>19395426
Is the tv show better than the book? Adaptations rarely work but I could see the tv version being good.

>>19396239
poor bait

I read her new book out of curiosity. Thought it would be vapid liberal chick-lit, but it was actually pretty entertaining and kind of pokes fun at how silly the modern literary types are.

Read Normal People afterwards and liked it even more. Think I'm unironically a Rooney Toon fan now

>>19395421
I'm sorry, anon, but it's just not good. You can make the case that it's on purpose but a book that's good at being bad is bad, not good.

>>19394678
Sally Rooney writes for a very specific kind of person, the kind who thinks that in spite going to elite colleges and being part of the professional-managerial-class they are still proletariat because they have to pay rent and don't own a factory, even when have little contact with actual working class people, whom they would despise if they actually got to meet.

>>19394678
Is this the one about Bobbi or that's the other one? I'm not a Sally stan but Bobbi is unironically the best character of the past decade. No other character captures the zeitgeist so well.

>>19396193
>climax of book
>someone throws a bottle
Yeah that sounds like a pretty good book

>>19394678
I can't stand most female writers.

Margaret George is not so bad but the way she adds historically incorrect elements to create girl power characters is unbearable. Is there a female writer who won't make me regret the existence of female education?

>>19395083
>He puts his hands in his pockets and suppresses an irritable sigh, but suppresses it with an audible intake of breath, so that it still sounds like a sigh.
This is the kind of snide, fart-sniffing writing that zoomers think of clever. Reminds me of how they write newspaper headlines now:
>A man posted a racist joke on Twitter. Now he's been arrested.
You can feel the writer smirking through the words.

>>19397109
Sounds like my kind of person. Fuck the elites and fuck the philistines. Might actually pick up Normal People now.

>>19397413
>Fuck the elites
>t. their loyal managerial class servant

Just from the way the posts defending this book are written I can tell that it’s utter dogshit

>>19395554
and whomst've will she be thinking about the next couple of years?
that's right: android

>>19397109
I somewhat fit that description but I do absolutely despise the working class so idk. The book was great.

>>19397509
>Just from the way the posts attacking this book are written I can tell you are a virgin

>>19397900
>I somewhat fit that description but I do absolutely despise the working class
You fit. You just got to meet them. Anyone who does them hate them. That being said, you will never have great taste nor write anything worthwhile, because you belong to a class which primary feature is their vapidness. Only aristocratic-fags and poor-fags can write.

>>19394678
I can't read

>>19397109
Add Irish to the list. I read one of her early interviews in the Sindo before she was first published where she said she didn't read any Irish lit and her reading was almost entirely American

>>19397912
No anon, my parents are rich but I still went to public school before university, and I live a 15 minute walk from one of the biggest council estates in the country, whom I also shared a school with. I know who they are and they're gross af. I don't even really know what you're accusing me of though, I'm self aware enough to release I'm nothing special but I am absolutely better than the working class rats of this country.

>>19394678
I wanna read contemporary literature but I've fried my brain reading the classics. I literally Pavlov'd myself into reading old books

>>19394678
Literally nothing about this book appeals to me to be honest.
Oh yeah it's about kids at college and their obnoxiously precocious and they have relationships and dark pasts and blah blah blah. I can't yawn hard enough to display my disinterest. It's just the most bourgeoise art imaginable. The last thing I want to read about is college kids living in the 2010s. I fucking lived it myself and it was boring the first time so why would I want to go back.

>>19398011
I don't get you people, since when was plot the selling point of a novel? Lolita is literally just about a pedophile falling in love with a child and its lauded as one of the best novels ever written. And I'm not criticising Lolita either, but it seems you people pick and choose when plot is relevant and not. The value in Normal People is in the nuance of emotions and relationships, Rooney's choice to write about boring college students was intentional to be representative of a generations struggle to grow up and writing about a tragic hero or some extraordinary individual would have ruined what the novel was trying to achieve. If you really need an exciting plot to be invested in a book I would rethink your approach to reading and take a look at some Marvel films to see if they are more your speed.

>>19398091
Plot is relevant when it becomes so excessively uninteresting. The value in countless good stories is the nuance of emotion and relationships. This is why plot is important not because it carries the story but because it makes it stand out against a sea of equally competent stories. A good plot is still key to any well rounded story worthy of being called great.

>>19398121
Well I guess we just disagree on what's interesting then. I think falling in love is an intensely emotional experience on its own and how real and sincere it is depicted by Rooney in Normal People makes the plot compelling to me.

>>19398091

I think it's very wrong to say that Normal People is some realistic representation of the millennial generation or that it does not make an attempt to feature tragic and extraordinary individuals. It does mythologize the millennial generation it simply does it in the most mundane way possible. Really what I think it is is a reflection of the fact that millennials cannot even be afforded real "heroes" to represent them. They have been trapped into settling for merely being understood and given a baseline level of acknowledgement as exactly what the title implies: "Normal People". That is their mythological ideal as pitiful as it seems although I doubt Rooney intended any of this other than subconsciously.

>>19398187
I don't really disagree with with you. It's sad I relate more to Marianne than a character like Stephen Dedalus, but it's how things are at the moment. I think you are right about the mythologising of the mundane though, I think social relationships have become so sterile that having the intimacy that Marianne and Connell share, however dysfunctional, is a dream to millennials now given how online everything has become, but I think that is more of a criticism of modernity than Rooney herself. You can say that even if mundane, she represented the desire for genuine emotion and tragedy from an isolated generation that is lacking meaning and that makes the book culturally significant and meaningful to me.

>>19395426
i thought the premise was that she was ugly

>>19398515
I think she was just insecure and thought she was ugly.

>>19398187
>although I doubt Rooney intended any of this other than subconsciously.
why

all the virgins in this thread lolllll

Funny story:

Am oldfag (31) -- got a call outta blue on 30th bday from love of my life aka ex from college (10+ years ago). She literally read the entire book on the phone to me over the course of several calls and then we briefly engaged in an affair (she is married). Alas it didn't pan out.


But ya. I thought it was alright. Wasn't super literary but it was honest and vulnerable and relatable if one is not an incel.

I think the fact that there's no resolution to relation at end is neat and unconventional too

>>19398848
>we briefly engaged in an affair (she is married).
Opinion discarded. Not reading the rest of your post.You're a nigger. Kill yourself and leave my thread. People who cheat aren't human. Kill yourself. Stupid nigger.

>>19398862
I'm not married. She is. All on her.

>>19398876
Not all on here, don't make excuses, you still participated and the fact you don't feel guilt only reinforces the fact you aren't human. You should tell her she's a whore and she should also kill herself. A double suicide would be great, everyone would be better off if both of you were dead. Kill yourself, you are an awful human being. Kill yourself.

>>19398876
He's right, you're fully subhuman. "Lmao wasn't me" is not an excuse for enabling and participating in an immoral act. What you did is nigger tier, dishonourable behavior.

>>19398893
Isn't Sally Rooney's other book literally about people having affairs? You're probably an incel if you've never been tempted or led astray by broken or wayward heart...


But ya. She told me she was getting divorce. But then she bought a house with him. Stopped talking not long after.

Feels like shit desu. Ya. It was a lonely pandemic sorta thing. I told my therapist and he said it was good I cut contact. But I feel perhaps even less lovable than before. Selfish. I experience guilt always. Am catholic.

>>19398893
I agree that what he did is fucked up but telling him to kill himself is too far. Not because I'm a pussy against harsh words, but because situations like this are complicated and you never know, if he actually realises what he did was extremely wrong, he might have a moral crisis and feel like he deserves to be punished.

He shouldn't kill himself, he should reflect on why this is wrong and hopefully be able to see it for himself, and then atone for it by helping other men in the future not to do such shitty things.

The real lesson is that there is no guiltless role when it comes to participating in a shitty dynamic like this. It's like saying "well I didn't smash the store window, I'm just taking a few things, they're going to file an insurance claim anyway." You are sinking your soul down into the muck not just by the immoral act itself, but far more dangerous, by "haggling" with yourself about "justified" immorality in your mind. That's one of the worst things you can train yourself to do.

>>19394678
>Sally Rooney
>a FEMALE writer
>good
lol no

>>19395083
Fucking terrible.

I.. had.. a... dog.. and.. his.. name.. was.. Rover... he.. had... a....

>>19398912
>What you did is nigger tier
Cheating is part of Western culture. Always has been.

WOT IF: This poo that just came out of my ass isn't actually disgusting? WOT IF my poo is beautiful and a flower is grotesque?

You like being subverted?

>>19398920
>Am catholic.
Doesn't surprise me one bit.

And I'm not an incel you faggot, believe it or not I'm not a sex driven animal, I can control my urges. I thrilled you feel bad about it though, I hope the guilt eats you up inside for the rest of your life until you rope yourself. I'm also glad you don't feel lovable because people like you don't deserve love given that you so willingly destroy it over sex.

Now leave the thread you rat, the fact you came here in the first place with a 'funny story' and expected people to laugh along with you is disgusting. Leave the board entirely you animal. I hate you.

>>19398927
I don't see him a real human with genuine emotion. I don't care about the context, cheating is never justified and I sincerely want him to suffer and I will say whatever it takes to make him feel awful about himself. It's just a shame the whore he cheated with isn't here to read this too.

>>19398944
Rat. Kill yourself.

>>19398984
>I'm so moral I use slurs and encourage violence
2edgy4me


Ya. This is why I don't use this board. Too many fashy traddy incel idiots.


PS: sorry you got cheated on but don't take it out on others

PPS: she probably cheated on you cause you weren't satisfying her bro lol :p

>>19399006
>This is why I don't use this board.
you don't?

astonishing amount of seethe itt

It serves its purpose in being average (as explained in pic related). I would like to add, though, that considering the sheer quantity of works sharing that same mental bed nature, any reader would be well-off reading them as infrequently as possible

>>19399006
Funny a minute a go you were crying and pitying yourself. You are genuinely a pathetic human being, when you go to bed tonight, think about this thread and the way you have behaved in your life and I hope you cry.

I was raised Catholic and I know who you people are and how horrible you can be. I can also tell you that adultery is a mortal sin in Catholicism, when you do kill yourself you are going straight to hell faggot. You are irredeemable.

>"Do not murder, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and your mother."

>>19399006
>Anyone who isn't a homewrecking effeminate queer who puts his own sexual dalliances and reliving his pathetic college flings over someone else's marriage like me is a FASCIST TRADITIONALIST INCEL

You're no Catholic.

>>19399011
Figure of speech. I thought I would share my anecdote as a bitter joke but hate the captchas and really browse very infrequently nowadays. Try to minimize internet browsing in general

>>19399058
You're going to hell.

Unironically get standards, op.

>>19399120
>Unironically
Thanks for specifying that this reply was not ironic, who knows how I would have interpreted it otherwise.

>>19398930
Touch grass

>>19394678
Get off the internet, Sally, you ugly cunt

I really enjoyed Beautiful World, Where Are You?
It really hit the spot, being a 31 single guy.

>>19397921
Basado

>>19395083
Thanks for this, won't read it now

>>19399522
I might read that one next desu, the more I think about the novel the more I like it.

>>19399705
Please refer back to my post here >>19395421
>You are ignoring the context in which that passage was quoted, they are two teenagers, both crushing on each other and an awkward uncomfortable atmosphere is demanded of the writing, which was appropriately delivered by Rooney with clunky and awkward short sentences and attention to detail you would feel when avoiding a conversation.

It's your loss if you don't read it, but please don't dismiss it for some short out of context extract.

>>19394678
It’s YA lit of another name. An embarrassment to Irish literature. What Joyce shits is better than what people write now

>>19399846
*shat
what else have you disliked, anon?

>>19398848
>I think the fact that there's no resolution to relation at end is neat and unconventional too
That's just banal post-modern cowardice. It's like those murder mysteries not revealing the killer.

>>19395083
Hahahaha that's fucking terrible

>>19399846
To be fair there aren't many names other than Joyce to Irish literature so I think there is space for Rooney still.

>>19399968
Based take, I didn't want to reply to the cheating rat but I didn't like the ending that much either.

>>19395083
reads like the screenplay for one of those boring indie films with long drawn out silences and where nothing happens. lynne ramsay, a24 type shit

>>19395993
And? /lit/ writers will never approach anything even in the neighborhood of relevancy.

>>19400121
that's really up to /lit/ at some point

>>19394678
It's YA tier and I dislike her mostly aware alliegance to the regime of Western social decay.
If you want decadent bourgeois ramblings you're better off with Tao Lin's works which continue to be best in class out of that meagre 2010s generation.
I would also reccomend watching Whit Stillman's movies from the 90s.

>>19400191
>I dislike her mostly aware alliegance to the regime of Western social decay.
lol based retard

>>19400200
I dunno faggot, it's not like the Jews hand out million dollar book deals to anyone but subversives and useful idiots these days.

>>19394958
You forgot your trip butters

>>19400241
I just think it's funny how poorly thought out and written your critique of western society is, you are so clearly a seething ESL rat trying to cope with his cultural poverty. I think you should mind your own 3rd world shit hole because your awkward opinions aren't needed over here.

>>19400262
seethe you faggot

>>19400283
Listen retard, if you're still under the impression that we live in a society then you aren't paying attention either to what's goin on around you or what's going on in the literature of the day.

>>19397109
I've always found it interesting how their entire ideology is ostensibly about helping the lower classes, yet there is no class that they despise more than the actual lower classes, especially for something as inane as not having the same bourgeois takes on things like them.

>>19397153
Murasaki Shikibu, Sei Shonagon.

>>19400454
>their entire ideology is ostensibly about helping the lower classes
I wouldn't count myself apart of that ideology, but the impression I got from Normal People was that it was more about connecting rather than helping. I think Rooney is criticising classism and materialism that isolates people from finding a connection and instead wants to promote a society that facilitates love across economic lines, like the one between Marianne and Connell. That might be an equally disingenuous and unhelpful thing to say but I think it's an important distinction to make.

>>19400191

>>19397930
Nigger, 15 minutes is over a mile away. Your public school education shows in your complete inability to write. More explicitly it shows you are esl and the biggest estate in a 3rd world shithole means nothing. Western elites never set foot in a public education institution.

>>19400875
So much working class seething lol. Know your place you rat.

>>19395103
>>19395088

>>19395421
>You are ignoring the context in which that passage was quoted, they are two teenagers, both crushing on each other and an awkward uncomfortable atmosphere is demanded of the writing, which was appropriately delivered by Rooney with clunky and awkward short sentences and attention to detail you would feel when avoiding a conversation.

This is precisely what >>19395285 meant by
>It hides its inability behind postmodern irony.

>>19401534
>Hasn't read the book
or
>Doesn't know what postmodernism is
or
>Doesn't know what irony is

Which one is it bud? Normal People isn't postmodern, and it's not ironic either and it makes me you think you haven't read the book. That passage was a sincere interaction between two awkward teenagers, the thoughts and feelings are clearly on show and there were no meta references, intertextuality or any absurdities at all. I don't know how Rooney is supposed to be hiding behind a genre of fiction that isn't relevant but this is just another unfair empty criticism aimed at her presumably because she is a woman.

>>19401534
Normal People isn't postmodernism

How is this garbage published?

>>19398920
why is it always the fucking catholics. You retards always figure you're saved by mere association with king poobah, but pope and cope rhyme for good reason. Attending church means nothing if a workaday protestant has stronger mores than you.

>>19395548
I have repeatedly had dreams where I discuss the novel with Melville, who only replies to me in images.

it's the type of self-obsessed myth making cormac mccarthy would call 'not literature'

dishonest scribbles for rich kids to see themselves in. omg she/he's just like me.

if you like this i feel bad for u son

but i got 99 problems

n a bitch ain't one

Reminder that Sally Rooney is jewish and was only published based on connections.
>sauce
google "sally rooney jewish." she tries to hide it pretty well but when she gets that much lipservice from kosher outlets you just know.

She isn't "good"--she's backed by big marketing dollars from the tribe. She has no merit, only nepotism.

>>19395023
>post is over 20 words
>this took you a minute to post

>>19400454
>college communists won't shut up about "the working class"
>meanwhile, the actual working class, some wrench wrangler living in kansas, causes college communists to seethe in anger and hatred and call for him to be put to death for offending their booj sensibilities
the absolute state. Stalin would have put trannies and fags to death. Mao would have tossed people like Sally Rooney out a tenth story window. all of this make-believe smartphone communism is tone-deaf larping from half-educated fuckwits who have never worked a day in their lives, but society feels forced to cater to them because they are the largest consoomer group and make the most tweets per day. it's ironic the people larping the hardest about communism in current year are themselves the harmful bourgeoise element. well, perhaps we should give them what they want--a damned good cleansing.

>>19395285
i agree

>>19401705
>n a bitch ain't one
we can tell

>>19401928

>tfw pure and abstinent unlike this dumb smelly bitch

>>19394723
Lol

>>19398792
Because the alternative would be too cruel to contemplate.

>>19399047
Why would anyone read a book for mental repose? We have tv and the internet for that.

>>19399058
lol you just wanted to brag about how you got laid

>>19401651
>bad writing is good because it mimics the boring lives of normal people
If you say so.

>>19402088
Did you just get back from the postmodernism wikipedia page, realise you were completely wrong, and decide to change the subject? Sad!

>>19398920
Average cathposter

>>19397153
Susanna Clarke. She specialises in fantasy but it's not the usual Tolkien/Dnd ripoff, and it is actually quite good on its own.

>>19397900
I usually don't say this but in this case I think it's deserving: Seethe, cope, and dilate.

>>19402441
KDbooks said Piranesi was second-rate predictable garbo

Lmao this op is insufferable. Kys roastie

>>19394678
>you should stop reading gay Dostoyevsky novels and engage with modern culture
Mate an old lady's head was just bashed in I'm not gonna quit now
TY for the post tho, honestly
>>19395083
Feels sort of like a screenplay, but I don't think it hurts to read or anything

>>19398944
inshallah it will be destroyed

>>19400454
> hello working class man!
> together we will bring down capitalism to its knees!
> omg you said retard?
> omg you love your country?
> you deserve to be poor you fucking bigot
> also heres my onlyfans

>>19403010
Thank you anon, I put that at then end for a little bait but it seems you were the only person to read my post properly so congratulations I guess. :)

>>19403210
As salamu alaykum