/lit/ - Literature

>>19394151
Love of wealth is inimical to the love of wisdom.

>>19394168
I believe that too, but sometimes I wonder if I being tricked into staying as a poor moron.

>>19394151
They are unironic Marxists. Our elite see themselves as the vanguard party of our society, and are guiding us through the transition to socialism. The erosion of national borders, the redistribution of capital via encouraging Black-owned businesses, etc.: they are establishing a centrally planned economy where the means of production are owned by the proletariat. They are Marxists.

>>19394187
I hope you're being sarcastic.

>>19394191
But he’s right.

>>19394187
That makes no fuckin sense, your description contradicts itself. How does an elitist oligarchy equal proles controlling the means of production?

>>19394183
I fully believe it to be true, but let's assume that it is a trick being played upon us. If everyone was striving with all of their power to accrue wealth and power, what miserable creatures would they all be. Those with little would be woeful, spiteful creatures, always grasping and seeking; Those with much would never be able to rest lest what they have is taken from them. If the trick of philosophy is making people happy to be poor, it would be a mercy for everyone.
Let us not forget that Plato came from one of the richest families in Athens, and lived like one of the poorest. And was he not one of the happiest citizens in that city as well?

>>19394191
I am being 100% sincere. Can you look at their actions and tell me otherwise? Trust me, I used to be like you, doubting them. But they are our CPC. They believe in dialectical materialism and are working to ensure the West and the world moves smoothly to the socialist stage of development. I trust them now.

>>19394205
They are our vanguard party. Their actions are all in the name of guiding the means of production and working on behalf of the proletariat. You should read up on WEF writings about shareholder capitalism and how it'll change post-COVID. It's a very gentle, gradual shift to a world where the means of the production are owned by the proletariat, but it is happening. Some might say that our elite merely want to control the means of production for themselves, but I disagree. They are too benevolent for that.

>>19394187
that would be based actually

>>19394151
Who is above these people? Or are at the tip of the hierarchy?

>>19394151
Torah.

>>19394151
>hedonism
>love of wealth
No, guys. I don't think you understand. Billionaires basically all live in the future. They live in a world of asking not what IS or what SHOULD BE, they ask was CAN be. They surround themselves with people like them (which typically means: hyperintelligent, upper middle-class, ambitious, etc.) and together they literally figure out what CAN be. Then they create it through the lens of monetization. End of story.

>>19394433
ya anyone who thinks people found and dedicate their lives to running trillion dollar businesses for hedonism are clueless. businesses started simply to fund personal hedonism are derided by the elite capitalists as "lifestyle businesses". dumb thread.

>>19394456
>>19394433
reminder ghislaine maxwell was a mod on reddit. they're here as well.

>>19394488
maybe to keep a finger on the pulse of the plebs? I don't suspect the post:insight ration on ANY social media sight is worth monitoring except with a computer doing it. The US government probably does that for them, or pays them to do it, so it hardly makes a difference.

>>19394151
Unironically the only "business" book you'll ever need. It's marketed as a business book but is more so a philosophy.

Intermediate Microeconomics with Calculus: A Modern Approach by Hal R. Varian

>>19394507
What did you think of it, anon? I read it since he references Girard in it, basically to say that trying to compete with others makes it harder to distinguish yourself. But moreso his message seemed to be that the startup should be a kind of cult. Or you could say just a really tight group (all with similar preferences).

>>19394750
All you need to know that he finances all the grifters on the "right" like Hazony.

>>19394151
I don't know any billionaires, but I've met a decent amount of millionaires and a lot of them have a kind of swagger and calm that's very easy to spot if you recognize the type.

A couple commonalities is that they all own their own business or have their toes in a couple different industries. Lots of quasi-millionaires: doctors, lawyers, professors, etc. will invest heavily in careerism but generally the really successful people work for themselves first.
They're laid back and sociable. Lots of these guys I've just met hanging out in bars or out on the street, and they're the kind who are making small talk with anyone and everyone. Very blue collar personality, but with a kind of easiness and glow that blue collar people don't usually have.
They can find and exploit niches. Again, to contrast against the doctors, lawyers, professors trivium they aren't trying to break into some high-competition, high-status field, but they're working the fringes, One guy I talked to recently made several million dollars selling bottled water. His family owned a lot of land with a glacier waterfall, so he and his dad got into business bottling it. Another guy had gone all in on bitcoins and dumped his life savings into the ecoin industry. Another still sold flower seeds to highway projects.
The one common field a lot of them seem to have dipped their toes in however is drug smuggling. The richest most politically important man in my town, for example, started as a bus driver and sold coke until he could finance a run for mayor. Another one would fly a sea plane out to international waters, land on a barge, load up with contraband, and fly it back to the mainland.
Leading of this last point, they also have a high tolerance for risk. I've heard some fucked up stories from these people but they all seem to take it as part of the game.

That said, I live in a shitty third world country and not silicon valley or new york, so my reference pool might be somewhat biased

>>19394776
Thanks for the post, anon. Any correlation with coffee-drinking?

>>19394183
if you ever rub elbows with an actually rich person you'll discover very quickly how bored they are. that's the primary reason so many become art patrons, to have conversations about things that aren't money for a change

>>19394245
nah monopoly control of the economy is well within the logic of perpetual capital accumulation

>>19394776
zuckerberg doesn't have a personality at all, let alone a blue collar one

>>19394877
You have to trust the elite and their plan. It's literally the same thing the CCP is doing in China, just in a far more gentle manner.

we thought it was fuck bitches get money but it actually

fuck people acquire equity the whole time

I've read a fair amount of billionaire biographies and I went to Princeton and Duke so I feel like I know the general elite culture kind of well, although I've spoken with a lot more high level government officials than people in the highest echelons of government. Had dinner with a former NSA and a few deputy cabinet heads.

I don't think there is a uniting philosophy. The high level government folks tend to be centrists. I think Francis Fukayama is a good barometer point (also met him but briefly), kind of this uniting ideal of liberal democracy as the best system, with disagreements mostly around government intervention in markets and the degree to which foreign policy should be multilateral or not. Also a strong respect for democracy and tradition, but with less of the chest thumping you see on the propaganda right (e.g. Tucker, although I highly doubt Tucker even talks like that in private). Both sides are troubled that the mob seems to be taking over there respective parties. There is also just a lot more pragmatism, but I think pragmatism comes from more content knowledge. Problems don't actually fit into neat little ideological boxes and real solutions take creativity and nuance that ideology doesn't allow.

Despite all the uproar about hyper woke elites in government, I always found this to be way, way more an academia thing. I did mostly meet people from State and DoD though, which might be a bit more conservative.

High level business people are less uniform and tend to more heterogenous. A lot of people get super into ideology but it doesn't tend to lean super hard one way. A huge part of being a billionaire is luck, but most of them understandably think they are extremely exceptional. They have people blowing smoke up their ass all day and an entire class of people make their living catering to them, helping them leverage their fortunes into bigger fortunes.

Long work hours are a thing but having been in executive management (granted only for a 6,000 employee organization) I can say that this is not nearly so much "work" the way most white collar people work. It's a ton of meetings, calls, networking, management of teams reporting to you, etc. It's taxing in some ways, hard if you're an introvert like me, but also not grinding in the way work was when I was an analyst. As deputy CFO my add wasn't near as much of a problem because I just went from meeting to meeting.

And definitely they are not a class of super humans. I went to an elite program and we had absolute idiots still, though obviously very, very talented people too. Some total fuck ups also are good at networking alone and still rise very quickly.

>>19394906
you talk like theyre concerned with 'problems'. their only problem, if they have one, is 'why are we not making more money'.

>>19394245
meds

>>19394151
Protestant work ethic
Notice how none of them are spicks
A book isn't going to teach it to you, if you weren't born to it, you are dead in the water
Go NEET or go bust

Be the biggest douchebag you can be.
Get lucky.

>>19394906

>>19394191
Just dumb, like 99% of the tools on here

>>19394867
>Art patrons

Lol what fucking art are they funding in 2021? The art of shitty trust fund kids that already have the means to make art comfortably?

>>19394151
lolita, vladimir nabokov
follow every step to become rich

>>19394151
Psychopathy; you have to be born with it.
Nietzsche is a close approximation.

>>19394996
>what fucking art are they funding in 2021?
NFT's retard. Understand money, understand life

>>19394151
A weird, seemingly counterintuitive mix of utilitarianism and abstract confidence.

What I've felt is that abstract confidence always feels like a cope to me unless you have the luck/money to back it up, and these guys do.

>>19394972
>Protestant work ethic
>Jews are massively outsized proportion, like 1/4 - 1/3 of billionaires in the US, Based Putin's Russia, France, etc.

>>19395181
It makes no difference. It's the ethic, not the ethnicity
Now back to /pol/ you little fucklet

>>19394750
There are many decisive points in the book—Girard is only one aspect and so is cult. To pick a single decisive point is to ironically overdetermine that specific decisive point, thus distracting you from the larger picture. So while Girardian-thought and cult-development are two different decisive points, you're better off understanding the entire book.

What I think about the book can be said in one word: brilliant.

But understand this: to seek and copy the psychology billionaires is the wrong approach for attaining wealth. Psychology or "mindset" is different for every man—the combinatorics of DNA and life experience makes this so. As such, chasing psychology and correlations of behavior is unironically a waste of time. Psychology is overdetermined.

>>19394849
If you think coffee drinking is a decisive factor in what separates a billionaire from the average, you're thinking like an NPC.

>>19394151
The entirety of Jewish success is rooted in the David mentality. David as in the underdog who overcame the Palestinian giant Goliath, of a story that's been with the Jewish people for centuries. They succeed where others fail because they make it a point to never underestimate their adversaries and always look for a way to get over from an inferior position, unlike the various Goliaths in history such as the Roman Empire, the Napoleonic Empire, the Nazi Empire, or the Arab League. That is what the Star of David truly represents. The rest is just feudal shenanigans (which have been available to Euros, Arabs, and Asians just the same) and Darwinian pressures. And the shrewdest non-Jews are aware of this mentality and observe it privately.
Adopt the David mentality and you've made your first step in emulating their success.

>>19394456
>how can we make things as bad as possible?

>>19394151
There is no such thing a billionaire mindset those books are mostly a grift. To become a billionaire is mostly luck, opportunity, and just doing it
>Elon paypal
>Jeff amazon
>Bill microsoft
>Zuck facebook

Each one effectually was either on the ground floor of a newmarket or was just the first to realize how to break the system.

>>19395208
You can't just choose to adopt the two standard deviations higher verbal-logical average IQ of the Jews though (about twice the Black-White Gap).

They produce statistical outliers far more frequently due to this big shift in mean, and verbal-logical IQ also matters a lot more to scientific achievement and income.

>>19395261
This one gets it

>>19395256
lol
>Germany zooms to most developed country in Europe, gaining ground on US
>Jews over represented 22:1 in making it a scientific power house.
>Germans kill all their Jews
>Emerge from being partitioned and conquered to become a Turkish colony with absolutely unexceptional economy built around slow iteration on design, no longer a center of scientific development.
>USAmerica and USSR get all the Jews and get to go to space, the Moon, and be on the cutting edge.
>Israel is the size of New York City and has a space program and landed a probe on the Moon, united Europe space program does fuck all.

>>19394151
>Honestly, they all seem to have a lot in common, when it comes to their mentality.
No they don't, this is a meaningless truism. Where are you even getting this idea from? Billionnaires aren't mystical sigma males you utter faggot.

>>19395092
>>19395261
>>19395261
Too many journalists and blogs write about psychopathy and its causes for success. And anything by journalists and blogs specifically written for the mass media is worthless.

>>19394151
Don't know about billionaire, but this is good ymho

>>19395324
Forgot image

>>19395327
You can google the pdf, he recommends several books

>>19394151
How many of them do you think understand Heidegger?

>>19394151
At a guess I'd say they're readers, analytical.

I think a lot of people are terrified about starting their own business and think 'people won't buy what I create' but they will and now you have a global audience because of interenet and covid

>>19394187
>>19394245

>>19395256
>You can't just choose to adopt the two standard deviations higher verbal-logical average IQ of the Jews though
No, you develop it gradually by applying an open critical mind to analyze the meta, observing the David mentality to get ahead in business, and starting a family, making connections, and building a community to pass on your progress. Live a healthy life of courage and patience and you and your children and their children will be better for it.

Why is there another shit /pol/ thread on my /lit/?

>>19395634
You’re mistaken fren, this is a /biz/ thread.

>>19395640
so fuck off to /biz/, who gives a shit. Both are equally non-lit

>>19394151
Aristotle's rhetoric

>>19394151
They don't have a philosophy per se, though some are philosophically minded. They are machine of efficiency and they live for their money, having made an idol of themselves in its image.

Zuckerberg and Bezos are the clearest examples of this. Both are human computers with almost no personality. Bezos's personality in particular consists of nothing other than a database of financial figures and business data which he correlates and systematizes. They do not pause to reflect.

Musk has something of the trickster in him, but like anyone that rich, they are too busy having fun with their money to pause and engage in such a stoical activity as philosophy. They think of nothing but their money.

>>19394168
I mean this as genuinely as possibly, why does it matter though? In the end whether I know a lot or have a lot I still turn into dust. So why does it matter if I die stupid or intelligent I die either way.

>>19394226
>Those with little would be woeful, spiteful creatures, always grasping and seeking; Those with much would never be able to rest lest what they have is taken from them.
But that’s literally what society is turning into.
>And was he not one of the happiest citizens in that city as well?
That’s called poor tourism. Easy to enjoy being poor when you can go back to being rich whenever you want.

>>19394151
They don't have a "philosophy" that's ideology shaped around their innate individualistic drive to succeed. If you want to become them your best bet is respawn or some ego death shit. You simply can't do it, those people were raised that way

>>19395733
Wisdom is just what people use to pretend that their pet theory is better than yours, in essence it is their excuse for not being successful in life

>>19395669
Gates has always been the balanced relatable one

>>19395769
Probably because he didn't have to think about money by the nature of his income

>>19394888
zuck is top three in the world, those guys are probably different than just a millionaire

>>19394151
Selfish Gene
Fully Automated Luxury Capitalism
The Singularity

>>19394707
Highly underrated

>>19394151
who are the two on the left???

>>19394867
I'm pretty sure they do it to make people think they're sophisticated person. There's a reason they half-ass everything. There exists scholars who provide short summaries on important literature, art, etc to these rich people so that they can use them at public speaking events or at private conversations. If they truly cared about art and literature, they would take time to actually learn it.

>>19394151
>the actual Billionaire mindset
Gib me dats

It most likely involves exiting the matrix. No really you’ve got to exit the game and play as an admin.

>>19394972
>Protestant work ethic
I hate to break it to you my man but I'd bet my left nut every SINGLE mogul in OP's pic is a jew and/or atheist.

>>19395733
How do you know your past experiences are not eternally experienced?

>>19395769
The textbook psychopath that tried to steal ownership from the person that actually built the company when he got cancer, acts like a poorly-masked terminal narcissist in every interview, was known in industry to be a sex pest for decades, and was close with Epstein?
That’s the relatable one?

>>19396600
>was known in industry to be a sex pest for decades
wat? I know he had an affair but Gates is a total nerd, I can't see him being a womanizer

>>19396563
Can you be more specific? Do you mean my memories or all knowledge that I’ve collected to this point?

>>19394151
>What're some books that teach you the actual Billionaire mindset. Honestly, they all seem to have a lot in common, when it comes to their mentality. What is their Philosophy? I wanted to say Hedonism but I don't that it's correct.
all bourgeois are hedonist

>>19394867
lol bourgeois are art patron for washing money

>>19394151
what they all have in common, to me, is their sense of cluelessness. they all seem, beyond a certain point, to not really understand why they have become so rich. they don't feel as if they have done anything especially great. they likely feel confused and lucky.

>>19394226
I mean you don’t have to dedicate your entire life to wealth to want to be wealthy. I just want to be wealthy enough that I can chill and actually fully enjoy life

>>19395305
>mystical sigma males
Never said that. What I meant was that they can easily make the decision of fucking someone over without a second thought, some even take pride in it by convincing themselves that they're tough for taking a "difficult" decision.

>>19395634
>>19395640
>>19395644
This is clearly a /lit/ thread.

>>19396624
He was a womanizer, he regularly pursued women working in his company. As for being a pedo, I don't know about that.

>>19396865
hell, his wife worked for him!

>>19396332
Tadashi Yanai and Amancio Ortega, I think.awkt4

>>19394151
Think of a product a billion people want. Like Facebook, Microsoft operating system, Apple computers and Iphones/Ipods, Amazon website, Tesla cars. Otherwise be born in a rich family go to an Ivy league school and start an investing firm/ hedge fund. If you can think of a product a billion people want, you have to work everyday for the rest of your life until you reach that billionaire goal.

>>19394906
You might be larping, but in case your background is true, I have to ask. I am going to Harvard and I am wondering how to make the most of this place. Seems like people here are empty shells. Still do not feel like I am among the elite. How do I tap in?

>>19394151
being a psychopath helps. also valueing money over anything else

>>19394151

Billionaires becams billionaires because of luck, not a mindset. You think stupid thoughts.

SIGMA GRINDSET
24/7 FOR YEARS ON END

>>19394151
50% autism
50% luck
no book needed

Feeling is the Secret.

>>19394187
I've never read a dumber post in my entire life. You may actually have brain worms.

>>19396896
>Think of a product a billion people want.
This is simultaneously true and false. True, in that if you have a product that billions of people want, you'll earn a lot of money. False, in that if you focus on what people want, you'll be misled, i.e., Henry Ford who said "If I had asked people what they wanted, the would have said faster horses."

With that said, it's perhaps better give people what they want but don't yet know what they themselves actually want.

>>19394187
I hope this is bait but I know /pol/fags have been psyop'd into believing the richest men in the world who want to destroy (market) culture, borders and ethnicity are actually socialist instead of capitalists so I cannot know. Still, to be on the safe side: kys.

I distrust CEOs, entrepreneurs, etc. They give me a bad vibe and I think they are psychopaths.

>>19399680
>who want to destroy (market) culture, borders and ethnicity are actually socialist instead of capitalists
Marx quite literally says the destruction of these things is a necessity in order to bring about socialism. Our elite are better Marxists than you.

>>19399886
Not an argument.

>>19394168
Sounds like cope to me.

There are currently 2555 billionaires on Earth. How many can you name? Ten? Twenty? Only the ones who choose to show up on media or a few of the richest actors, singers and athletes.

Then some blog or magazine posts about what those very few have in common and it's always something vague like they prioritize tasks, they are able to say "no", they wake up early or drink green tea.

The only thing they have in common is the guillotine

>>19399994
Marx said the logic of capitalism would lead to those things, and they would make socialism and communism inevitable. The billionaires aren’t pushing for communism, capitalisms internal contradictions are. I’m not a communist but you need to realize marx’s philosophy claims to be the inevitable outcome of reality’s internal logic. People do not need to be intentionally pursuing communism for it to come to pass from his vantage point

>>19400347
See, that's the thing: I don't think the elite are just letting this happen, or that they don't know Marx predicted capitalism would unfold in this way. I think they understand that and are supportive of it. They want the transition to socialism, and are doing what needs to be done in the capitalist stage to make it happen. It's a conscious choice on their part, not something that is happening out of their control.

>>19396554
You're an idiot. He is saying to work smarter not harder, the protestant has read the words in red, the catholic relies partly on his ardous deeds and outward visuals.

>>19400451
The elites billionaires are not going to contol of resources to the proletariat and eliminate private property. That's just silly.

>>19400626
They plan to hand over control of the world economy to a centralized AI. It’s a distinctly technocratic view of Communism.
Why do you think there’s been so much investment in Silicon Valley and Big Tech?

>>19399594
Well that doesn't really contradict what I said. Henry Ford still made things people want.

>>19400639
That's corporate fascism not communism.

>>19394867
No it's just that making money through risk destroy your intensity in life

Try investing your whole life savings for few years in highly volatile markets, I believe it had large influence on my current apathy.

>>19400652
Why the Soviet Union and Communism collapse?
Critics like to cite shortages, breadlines and rationing but what causes those?
The Soviet Union’s economy was centralized, there was a minister of economy that looked over last data and determined quotas on how much on any given product needs to be produced to meet demand.
The problem is that the minister of economy is only human, and human error, wrong or outdated data caused them to order quotas far below actual demand.
So what happened is the bakers made 50 loaves of bread when there was demand for 100, leading to rationing and bread lines.
The elites are investing heavily in machine learning, AI and algorithms to get rid of this problem.
Google’s, Youtube’s, etc. algorithms are programmed to keep track of what users watch, what they click on, etc and store it to use as reference data. It then recommends you videos/content based on what you already consumed. The more sophisticated algorithms uncannily seem to PREDICT what you want to watch next and they show it to you.
The elites are bankrolling the eggheads in hopes of producing AI algorithms that will be able to calculate demand for physical goods and services and then dictate how much to produce based on that data, but unlike ministers of economy that are prone to human error the AI will be able to predict demand with surgical accuracy and very small, if any, margins of error.
Today it’s just YouTube videos but tomorrow it could be anything from cars to bread to sponges to anything.

someone needs meds and an understanding of capitalism

>>19400707
But the people who own Google and other tech company are mostly big hedge funds, banks, and accounting firms. And communism is supposed to be a stateless society with no private property. What your describing is more a different version of corporate fascism.

>>19400777
Investment firms*

describe what is currently capitalism and its contradictions but call it socialism challenge

>>19400707
>Google’s, Youtube’s, etc. algorithms are programmed to keep track of what users watch, what they click on, etc and store it to use as reference data. It then recommends you videos/content based on what you already consumed. The more sophisticated algorithms uncannily seem to PREDICT what you want to watch next and they show it to you.
If this were true why do I get nothing but garbage on my youtube feed?

>>19395627

Any books that talk about this?

>>19400895
First off the algorithm is not perfect, it doesn’t care to everyone perfectly and doesn’t encompass every taste.
Second off YouTube’s algorithm promotes sponsor-friendly content, which is going to be family oriented and safe.
Third off YouTube’s staff are dogmatically left-leaning, meaning they censor right wing content off the platform.
So if you’re into any of that you won’t find it on YouTube or at least the algorithm won’t promote it.

>>19394187
I have seen this posted word for word in the past but I can't find it in the archive, is someone messing with my timeline?

>>19396849
You can see the same mindset in a lot of people from the boomer generation, the idea that business is business and that moral and emotional considerations are irrelevant. Only real difference between the billionaire and the average person is that one was more successful. Though tracing the genealogy of this idea and how it spread from the merchant class to the population as a whole could be an interesting thing to look in to.

>>19394187
Oh, it's you again.

>>19394776
>That said, I live in a shitty third world country
Lead with that next time

>>19394406
Codreanu was christian you retard (the Torah is the first 5 books of the Old Testament, the Pentateuch)

>>19401273
>is someone messing with my timeline?
Fuck he’s onto us