/lit/ - Literature

just relax bro. you ain't bad

>>19373137
I'll trie to remember this pepe, thank you.
>>19373138
I'm trying, but I can't.

>>19373152
what do you hate about yourself

>>19373131
I am the son
And the heir
Of a shyness that is criminally vulgar
I am the son and heir
Of nothing in particular
You shut your mouth
How can you say
I go about things the wrong way?
I am human and I need to be loved
Just like everybody else does
There's a club if you'd like to go
You could meet somebody who really loves you
So you go and you stand on your own
And you leave on your own
And you go home and you cry
And you want to die
When you say it's gonna happen now
When exactly do you mean?
See I've already waited too long
And all my hope is gone

>>19373166
my personality, my looks, my intelligence

>>19373197
what is your personality?
>what are your passions
>what do you do for fun
>what media do you consume
as for your looks and intelligence. why do you think you are ugly? why do you think you are dumb?

>>19373131
steppenwolf helped me a lot
also jung
also just do drugs or anything that pushes you out of your comfort zone

>>19373131
Law of Attraction

>>19373131
Bump because I have the same irrational fears and am curious

>>19373182
damn bruh that shit bussin fr no cap

>>19373399
>have the book on my desk but never got around to it
>see this post
>decide to read with my desperate state of mind
>opening couple of lines are author humblebragging about their 6 figure salary and corporate success but noooo that wasn't good enough for them so they so bravely, after years of enjoying their life not living in poverty, threw away all that worthless money and gave up their high status to work for pennies doing humanitarian work
>throw it aside

>>19373182
when you laugh about people who feel so very lonely
their only desire is to die
well I'm afraid
it doesn't make me smile
I wish I could lauuuuuuuuuugh
but that joke isn't funny anymore
it's too close to home
and it's too near the bone
it's too close to home
and it's too near the bone
more than you'll ever knoooooow

>>19373343
is Jung a hard read?

Infinite jest

>>19373131
To start? Read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius (Gregory Hays translation. I hope this will give you a brick to hold your spine up with! :)

Read both Iliad and Odyssey. Hopefully you realize civilization/society is a man-made construct and you were born into it without experiencing what it was like without one. Death is always a minute away. You are part of society and civilization. You have a right to breathe and walk with your head high.

This condition feeds on itself. You despise yourself because you act like this and you act like this because you despise yourself.
Be really careful if your self destructiveness matches the self loathing.

>>19373131
you should never go to them
let them come to you
just like I do

why are the Smiths so good and yet so gay
Morrisey's later work is not as gay and yet it is mostly not good

>>19374049
Morrissey channeled his sexual frustration and confusion into the music. Also, Morrissey’s solo work, even his late solo work, is great. Viva Hate, Bona Drag, Your Arsenal, Vauxhall & I, You Are The Quarry, and Ringleader of the Tormenters are all just as good as any album The Smiths made, besides maybe The Queen is Dead. I also really like Low in High School and the covers album called California Son, though they aren’t as good as music by The Smiths.

>>19373131
When Panic Attacks by David Burns.

Also start meditating every day, try for 20 minutes every day. Watch some short Mingyur Rinpoche videos so you now how to meditate properly and then start doing it each day, with no excuses. It sounds gay but genuinely works well to make you overall less anxious and more self-confident.

>>19374073
I think Marr held it together, Smiths instrumentals are just incomparably better

>>19373131
When will you accept yourself?

>>19374130
How does one do that

>>19374049
>is not as gay
>picadilly palare is literally about gay prostitutes
>he knows i'd love to see him
>the more you ignore me the closer I get
>the video for november spawned a monster

>>19373568
best advice here

i haven't been in the mood for the smiths lately idk i just don't care anymore

>>19374146
for me it was when i got a job and moved out on my own. when you support yourself, you realize you can do whatever and no one can tell you shit. it doesn't even have to be a good job, or a good place to live, but you're living in the world and free to do whatever. it did wonders for my mind.

>>19373131
You got 2 choices
1. do whatever you need/want to do anyways, regardless of how you feel
2. let a lot of time pass until your feelings possibly change for whatever reason, then do 1. anyways
Any book can be equally useful for this, depending how it affects you

There is no such book. You need to slowly get out of your comfort zone.
Look up CBT

>>19373131
Unironically read some Nietzsche. I know that essentially Nietzsche IS NOT about self-improvement, contrary to the normie belief, but there are indeed some passages in his works that make you want to lift weights and be intransigent with people.

Google: narcissism, signs and symptoms

>>19373131
Shyness is nice and shyness can stop you from doing all the things in life you’d like to shyness is nice and shyness can stop you from saying all the things in life you’d like to so if there’s something you’d like to try so if there’s something you’d like to try ask me I won’t say no how could I?

>>19373131
Imagine you lived until the end. You were like 80 and died. Your life sucked.
God gives you the second chance. You resurrect in the current you. What do you do? Do you stay a pussy afraid to do anything or are you able to risk and do anything? To talk to that girl, to invest in this thing, to try everything?

> just be yourself

>>19375452
op is himself right now and it doesn't work
he wants to stop being himself, remove the parts of himself he doesn't like
and for that he should do what these anons said
>>19373568
>>19375440
also, read books on rhetoric and the Greeks on virtue

>>19373568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu0xDtK3g3Q

"What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: 'This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more; and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and every thought and sigh and everything unutterably small or great in your life will have to return to you, all in the same succession and sequence—even this spider and this moonlight between the trees, and even this moment and I myself. The eternal hourglass of existence is turned upside down again and again, and you with it, speck of dust!"

"Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: 'You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine.' If this thought gained possession of you, it would change you as you are or perhaps crush you. The question in each and every thing, 'Do you desire this once more and innumerable times more?' would lie upon your actions as the greatest weight. Or how well disposed would you have to become to yourself and to life?"

>>19373197
>my intelligence
you aren't dumb; anon, dumb people don't question their intelligence.

>>19373131
Books and therapy wont help.
Slow and controlled exposure to social situations will.
Each time reflect on your behavior and focus on changing one thing about it in future social situations.
You wont see significant progress overnight. Have patience. A couple of years from now you will be confident and comfortable around others.

>>19375682
I thought so but it doesn't really change anything. In fact just being around other people who are so much more confident and social just discourages you.
But being around people who are not confident and social, well nothing gets done there.

>>19373470
I was referring more to my understanding that whatever thoughts you obsess over, you invite. It's like what this guy said:

>>19373577

It becomes a self-feeding cycle. The only way out of it for me was a complete break- a change in faith, something big, something drastic.

>>19373131
I am nothing.
wallowing and waiting for something in particular
given over to the temptations of the self
to lust, to greed, to the seeds of doubt and envy
planted in the psyche
sprouting, then growing-- flourishing, even
flowering in my mind
loose-lipped petals spilling over the edges of a broken brain
they fall listlessly through air thick with imagined praise
reverberating off slickly-shining walls
congealing in clumps of plasticine dross
shining like sewage, iridescent in the sunshine
filtered through particulates -- a late-century half-light
I am caught, ensnared, entangled
my soul a half-remembered dream
forgotten like frosted ice melting in the spring
a promise of summer, soon to be forgotten
betrayed
wrecked by lies
the truths they told, that turned out to be nothing more than fantasy
that i believed -- or rather wanted to believe
and it was just a dream
this rude awakening a stone crashing through the surface
sinking to the sea-bed
settling in the mud
lost to eternity
I am alone.

>>19375525
>read books on rhetoric and the Greeks on virtue
Any particular recommendations?

>>19373568
based marcus poster

>>19373131
I reccomend mushrooms

to overcome shyness I start talking to random people on the internet using discord voice chat. Maybe it helps? I don't care anymore. It also increases your self-confidence when you speak with good looking women.

>t. ex autist

>>19377534
I became a cashier at kohls and found out how easy talking to people is

I have a friend just like you who has cut contact with me recently. I hope he comes back soon I miss him.

I'm sorry I can't help you, I couldn't help hin either.

>>19373131
I have a mindset of self-hatred that leads to material improvement but spiritual decay. This self-hatred pushes me to improve myself through exercise, reading, schoolwork and earning money, but the smallest failures and errors cause endless waves of self-hatred. I would not call myself a perfectionist because I am not great at anything and I suppress my hatred and sadness with drugs and distractions. I am curious if eliminating these distractions would lead to an unescapable abyss or it would allow me to push past this self-constructed threshold on my abilities.

>>19373491
ARE YOU LISTENING?!?
We write a thousand pages
They're torn and on the floor
Headlights hammer the windows
We're locked behind these doors
And we are never leaving
This place is part of us
And all these scenes repeating
Are cold to the touch

>>19373131
Alan Watts videos on youtube

>>19373491
I am angry, I am ill and I'm as ugly as sin
My irritability keeps me alive and kicking
I know the meaning of life, it doesn't help me a bit
I know beauty and I know a good thing when I see it

>>19375616
this is a cope.

>>19373131
unironically eviscerated my social anxiety.

>>19373131
I'll make an odd recommendation. Daniel Dafoe's Robinson Crusoe. It deals with expectations being destroyed, loneliness, and finding comfort in simply being. Some good survival and adventure to boot!

>>19373131
Realize that no one really gives that much thought to what you do or say. Your time is finite. Just let loose. Those who mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind

>>19377588
man if only i had drugs to suppress the bad times

>>19374606
How is cock and ball torture gonna help me be less shy?

>>19373197
Your peace can only come from acceptance. If you’re ugly and unintelligent, that’s fine. You suffer because your reality does not align with your ego, let go of that ego. Basically what I’m trying to say is to accept the fact that you are a loser and be truthful to yourself. You’ll find much motivation to start building up afterwards, if you do desire

>>19373131
stop being so harsh on yourself, watch how you talk to yourself