/lit/ - Literature

they are better but don't masturbate about them too much just buy a durable one /thread

>>19365024
bump. My first ereader arrives in a week

>>19365024
get one and you'll see
I can't stand reading on a phone but I can use ereader for 16 hours without taking a break and feeling good man, even better than with a normal book

>>19365024
I bought one that has a built-in app that allows me to read library books on it. It's been awesome with libraries being closed during the pandemic.

>>19365126
amazon prime big fella

>>19365137
which one was it?

>>19365024
Ive been thinking about getting one of the big e-ink tablets that you can write on. Reading non-fiction on kindle is kind of gay, I feel like I want to take more notes and the size of the screen just feels so small. It’s also pretty slow, jumping between pages can feel kind of cumbersome.

I've been using an e-book reader since 2016.Very handy.

>>19365024
They're about a hundred times better for your eyes.

Great purchase, the piracy options are unlimited. I cant tell you how many text books and out of print overpriced non-fiction or meme books (junger or mishima) that libraries dont have and resellers gouge prices on that I have read on kindle (or kobo, same thing)

>>19365132
>>19365263
I used to read on an iPad, but my eyes would just hurt after a while, You can find them cheap on eBay, and then you're not worried about throwing it around,

How are PDFs on a new generation Kindle?

>>19365339
fine, the big problems with the old touches and earlier were margins and blurry print and load times, and those all seem to be fixed. Of course if you have a grainy pdf you still suffer, but otherwise i read about 25% pdfs on paperwhite

>>19365350
Thanks, I had a really old one and it was shite for pdfs, so much so that I upgraded to a DX. But that's showing its age. I might spring for a Paperwhite for Christmas.

I've recently reverted to buying paperbacks again because I want a shelf. But kindles are pretty great. The thing I miss most is not being able to touch a word or reference I don't understand and get instant thesaurus or wiki. I was pressing my index finger on paper for a week until my brain recalibrated. It's amazing how quick we adapt to technology.

>>19365132
>I can't stand reading on a phone
Based.

>>19365339
I don't care to read PDFs on a small screen like the paperwhite, and would spring for a device with at least a 10in screen for them.

>>19365203
Kobo Clara HD. It has the Overdrive app. It's a better experience to the Overdrive portal and pick books there and then sync the ereader, but you can get books directly from the ereader also.

>>19365603
Do you have to be connected to wi-fi to read books acquired through Overdrive?

go to a library, buy the book for 20 cents online

dont bother

>>19365024
you will retain far far less on a screen unless you read with deliberate focus and take notes with a pen

tactile feedback, holding a book in your hands, turning pages, even the smell of a book are crucial for your brain not to just throw the reading experience into the blur of all the other shit you do on screens. like jack off, obsessively skim wikipedia and shitpost

i think it's ok for poetry though. but why read poetry on an ereader?

>>19365649
same with piracy. having unlimited "ownership" fucks with your brain. don't ask me why, seems innocuous, but it's true.

>>19365627
No you don't have to stay on wifi to read. You need to be on wifi only to get the books on the ereader. You could use Adobe Digital Editions and side-load, using a wired connection to your computer. Overdrive only works on books that Kobo also has in their store, so sometimes you find a book that won't download properly and then you could probably get it on there using ADE. Usually an indie release, or a public domain book won't load through Overdrive. What I do - I borrow the books on the website through my laptop, but don't download. Then I sync the ereader using wifi and the books are there.

>>19365649
are you female?

>>19365675
no, but you'll never be

>>19365663
Thanks. I'm asking because my local library apparently has this function. But how exactly does the "borrowing" work? Are the files deleted or what? Or is it basically legal piracy?

>>19365024
depends what you want to do. the go to is just getting a kindle paperwhite and removing the ads.

>>19365743
The books turn into a preview of the book after they've expired. You can borrow them again, or put a new hold on them if you want. I just delete the previews. I think if you save the previews, you get accomplishment stats and trophies.

i have a ten year old kindle 4 with the physical buttons to change page, still use it regularly. probably the best tech gadget thing i've ever buyed.

>>19365803
Sounds like I should renew my library card then. Thanks again.

>>19365835
It's great because I only have so many physical books in my library, but the overdrive version draws from a provincial pool of books, so it's kind of like an interlibrary loan system. I was hardcore never going to get an ereader until they closed the library.

>>19365132
>I can't stand reading on a phone but I can use ereader for 16 hours without taking a break and feeling good man, even better than with a normal book
Even better with* a normal book

>>19365649
>you will retain far far less on a screen unless you read with deliberate focus…
>tactile feedback, holding a book in your hands, turning pages, even the smell of a book are crucial for your brain not to just throw the reading experience into the blur of all the other shit you do on screens.
I hope this is bait, because if not this is the most retarded shit I have read in a while. “Unless you read with deliberate focus” - how the fuck are you supposed to read without focusing on the text? I read both physical and digital books (the latter on my e-ink device) and if anything I prefer the digital experience for the ability to quickly look up definitions, annotate paragraphs and finally for the lighter form factor which makes it easier to read for longer periods of time. I think you are just retarded my guy.

>>19365660
It seems youre right. At least for books. I feel like its different with film. Perhaps because of the hours of commitment required is far more with books? I love the ability to pirate and read on my ereader, but i think it makes me stall out more. I also dont have a book staring at me every time i walk in my room.

I got mine around a year ago and I couldn't be happier.
It's true you miss of on the texture of a book and such, but reading doorstoppers on it is just so comfortable, plus, if there's a book I can't find or get physically I can just pirate it from z library.
Overall, really great, only a fool would think it has to be either an e book or physicals when you can have both.

i dont want to make a new thread to shill this so im gonna do it here. contribute to openlibrary, when you read a book, whether ebook or physical, fill in as much information on that edition of the book as you can. also use sigil (harder to use but good tags) or calibre (easy to use but much worse tags) to edit the metadata for your libgen and zlibrary downloads.

>>19365024
people say it's easier on the eyes but really it's more about longer battery life and fewer distractions

“Reading” on an e-reader isn’t actual reading. You may as well be playing a video game.

>>19365212
I couldn't imagine using an ereader for academics or research for that reason. It has been great for pleasure reading, though.

I love paper so much bros

I'm slowly going back to regular books

>>19365603
You can also just drag and drop files into it when it's plugged in

A pointless jew device. Just read on your fucking phone, turn on the reading mode if you're such a woman that your eyes ouchie from bright lights.

>>19369609
Stay mad poorfag.

>>19369579
thanks for the tip. I had a pre-Overdrive Kobo I bought second hand and I couldn't do it with that one. I never bothered to try with the new one.

>>19365024
Love mine. Take it everywhere with me. I have the Kindle paper white with a cover. Fits in my back pocket and battery last forever. Even reading with the backlight on doesn’t hurt my eyes.

anyone else also bought paperwhite 6.8? made a thread about it yesterday. it is pretty neat

>>19369978
Yea I have the 10th gen paper white.

>>19369978
yeah i saw that thread & you sold me on it lol

>>19369986
i was referring to the 11th gen. released two weeks ago. it has some improvements (bigger screen, warm light). worth checking some comparisons

>>19369999
welcome to the club anon. mine arrived in 2 days.

pic from the internet comparing the new version. i'll see if i post one

>>19370001
Hmmm ok wil do! I’m very happy with mine and will probably keep it for a while.

>>19370001
Maybe improvements over the previous Paperwhite but hardly notable in comparison to the competition.

6th gen (~2014) and 11th gen. Same font size, maximum brightness and warm mode on the 11th

>>19370056
Yes, i don't know how the rest of the market is doing however the ereader guy from YouTube ranked the 6.8 signature edition as #2 in his top 5 e-readers from 2021

I've been using the dark mode which my old paperwhite didn't have

>>19365132
This. I was reading drunk as fuck super late last night off my phone and it was like having my eyes burrowed into with ice picks. I picked up my kobo and hit the auto brightness setting and instantly it became a joy to read.

This time running a PDF

>>19370153
>the ereader guy from YouTube
Good-e-reader? They are one of the worst channels out there, mainly interested in shilling their own store.
Their list excluded all devices with a stylus (except the Sage for some reason).

>>19365649
what a fucking retard lol

>>19370193
yeah. he is making a distinction between 'ereader' and 'note taking ereader' apparently but w/e

>>19370179
Looks kino.
Are 8 gigs enough storage? Signature edition is another 60 bucks.

For me there's no difference between reading on a phone screen and an e-reader except for the size, and that you can use an e-reader in the sun. These two things are enough that I read everything on my e-reader, though.
Also, I recommend KOReader, at least if you get a Kobo device as I did.

>>19370267
What do you intend to read? Reflowable ebooks aren't that large.
You can get the Kobo Libra 2 for the same price and it comes with 32GB.

>>19370267
Yes it is more than enough. I have 500 books and im using around 3gb or less

>>19370310
I just checked I'm actually using 2gb with with ~500 books. 98% is epub/mobi tho

>>19365024
Whats a good one for a poor fag?

>>19369625
The fuck does it have to do with money dumbshit? It's a big bulky device twice the size of a smartphone with a single function of reading. It's like an MP3 player for music, pager for text messages, portable console for gaming, camera for snapshots etc. Smartphone simply made all these devices obsolete for anyone except professionals who need cutting edge quality. It's idiotic to carry around a tablet-sized potato that offers no real advantages over a smartphone JUST to read.

>>19370373
Clara HD
Used Kindle if you are destitute.

>>19370373
It's over

>>19370386
Have you ever touched an e-reader? How can you compare e-paper with a smart phone.

I actually leave my home more with my e-reader than phone but I'm a loner

>>19370386
Some e-readers can be used for music, text messages and gaming.
E ink is light compared to LCD so they aren't bulky at all.

>>19370018
big up

time to start reading long, discredited books about esotericism

>>19370018
big up

time to start reading long, discredited books about esotericism

>>19365024
E-ink is much nicer on your eyes than other screens. It is pretty much like reading a physical page, except it is always ideally illuminated.
I have a Kindle Paperwhite and it is one of the best gifts i have ever received.

>>19370153
I already have an older paperwhite but man that warm light looks so much nicer for the eyes. I've been wanting a bit bigger screen too. Anon you're gonna make me CONSOOM.

I'm also considering the Kobo Libra 2.

>muh eye strain
Flash news niggers: eye strain is not the result of staring at a slightly different surface, it's the result of blinking less frequently than usual. Reading is a kind of hyperfocused activity that will strain your eyes whether you read off of e-reader, phone screen, paper, or stone tablet. You fell for a marketing scam like a dumb ape you are, take an L

>>19370702
el retardo grande

>>19370659
>Kobo Libra 2
looks better than the new paperwhite but kobo is way more expensive in my country i really had no option

>>19365024
They're absolutely superior with some caveats. I bought a Boox Note Air and I use it everyday for reading and work. Expensive but worth it.

Pros
>libgen any book on the planet
>instant dictionary
>highlighting does not ruin the "book"
>text-to-speech option is great if you're tired
>change the text format to your liking
>can read in the dark making it easier for me to wind down for bed (essential for superior intellectuals like ourselves)

Note Air Pros
>can read basically any format
>can split screen to take notes while reading
>has a hand writing search feature to look up notes quickly
>very long battery life (why I bought it)
>using the internet browse on it sucks so you're less likely to web surf (con for some)
>if you can draw it's supposedly very good

The only big cons are if the device breaks and there is no backup you basically lose everything and you can't really hand down your collection to future generations. That's why you read the books then buy hard copies of the ones worth keeping. Win/win. Every other answer is dog shit.

>>19370913
I have the Boox Nova Air and agree with everything you said (apart from my model having a smaller battery and screen). I still buy physical books from time to time but this e-reader has made me read so much more.

The upfront cost is the only major downside IMO, but once you have it you can easily get 90% of the books that you would ever want to read for free.

>BONUS QUICK TIP FOR NON-ENGLISH READERS:
If you want to get free ebooks in your native language, borrow them from your library on a PC and use Calibre to strip the DRM and keep them forever.

Query for you anons:
My wife has an Oasis, but since we're newfags on utilizing tech for higher purposes, we haven't bothered to push it past the basic Kindle purchasing use. I'm thinking the best move would be to get a different reader (maybe a Kobo?) and load it up with PDFs/ePubs taken from the web. Is there a reader you would suggest that is best to load up on free shit, or should we just better utilize the Oasis?

>>19365024
+ Bigger screen even for the smaller e-readers.
+ More pleasant to read.
+ Easier on the eyes.
+ Dictionaries and conveniently organized footnotes for days.
+ Holds charge basically forever.

- Can't deal with PDFs and most pictures for shit.
- Actually loses battery damn fast when you use the backlight.
- Amazon will try to secure the rights on your colon and demand money every time you take a shit if you buy a Kindle without jailbraking it. Also forcefeeds you ads.
- Is a separate device from your phone, with all that entails.

>>19371446
You can convert epubs to mobi to read them on a Kindle.
For pdf you are better off with a larger screen and more powerful hardware, a "cheap" option is the Kobo Ellipsa, a high end option is the Boox Max Lumi 2.

>>19365649
you will retain far far less on a page unless you read with deliberate focus and take notes with a quill.

tactile feedback, holding a scroll in your hands, scrolling it through, even the smell of papyrus are crucial for your brain not to just throw the reading experience into the blur of all the other shit you do with books. like jack off, obsessively skim newspapers and advertisement.


i think it's ok for poetry though. but why read poetry from a book?

>>19365649
you will retain far far less on a scroll unless you read with deliberate focus and take notes with a stylus

tactile feedback, holding a clay tablet in your hands, sorting through tablets, even the smell of clay are crucial for your brain not to just throw the reading experience into the blur of all the other shit you do with scrolls. like jack off, obsessively skim Biblical apocrypha and magistrate proclamations

i think it's ok for poetry though. but why read poetry on a scroll?

>>19365649
>>19371487
>>19371496
you will retain far far less on a clay tablet unless you read with deliberate focus and take notes with mnemonic exercises

Phonetic feedback, repeating the passages to yourself, hearing yourself pronounce the words, even the feeling of sore throat are crucial for your brain not to just throw the experience into the blur of all the other shit you do with reading. like jack off, your taxation reports and public prescriptions.

i think it's ok for poetry though. but why read poetry?

>>19365024
If you're pirating old books like me, you'll have a bit of trouble fixing the size of the pages in calibre. It's a bit more fun reading a real book but kindles are only marginally better than reading off a computer. You'll be straining your eyes, but at least you won't have to return it or worry about holding it correctly. Battery life on a kindle paperwhite is pretty good, and it doesn't bother me that i have to charge it.

>>19365649
I agree, but as a college student i cant afford real books. Unless I go to the library. Since I'm always hard pressed on assignments it helps knowing that you dont have to return them.

>>19365743
Just get a cable, turn on airplane mode and disable wifi on your computer then download onto e-reader from calibre. My kindle is never connected to the net, no net, no problems. Plus more battery life

>>19371478
Thanks, anon

>>19371446
Keep using your Oasis. Download Calibre and you can convert free epubs into whatever the kindle filetype is. It's very easy.

>>19365649
retard

>>19365024
Waiting for the digital ink on the kindle to redraw is annoying. You can’t flip through pages quickly, it makes the whole experience painful

>>19365024
My advice, if you buy one, and small size is not a factor, buy a large one. 10 inch version. They are nice to read .pdf.

>>19372444
what? it takes like 100 milisconds

>>19365024
I fucking hate e-readers with a passion. Paperback all the way.

>>19370386
If you actually read on your phone for extended periods, you probably won't be reading into old age because your eyes are fucked up.

>>19372781
It’s at least 3-4x that. either way, it’s painfully slow and unwieldy.