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>> No.19323243 [DELETED] 

Looks like butters got the thread deleted.

>> No.19323244

I think I have a fart coming

>> No.19323246

IT WASNT A FART

>> No.19323268

>>19323236
NaNoWriMo is here! :)

>> No.19323286

It continues to astound me how arbitrary the mods on /lit/ are when it comes to pruning threads. We had three writes what on your minds threads in the catalog, but the mods didn’t delete them, yet they prune the one that was made after the last one reached the bump limit? Same goes with the threads that don’t belong to /lit/. No wonder /lit/ has gone down the shitter.

>> No.19323304

>>19323286
i assume there are like 2 mods at most

>> No.19323316

>>19323304
I would be such a great mod:
>Deport /pol/ and leftpol to /pol/
>Encourage /sffg/ posters to begin posting on the catalog and not just in the general
>Encourage horror fans to post more
>Ban philosophy and religion posts, they'll have to go to /his/
>Encourage anime OPs
This alone would save the board

>> No.19323334

>>19323316
save?

>> No.19323335

>>19323316
Its inhumane to consign rel/phil posters to /his/.

>> No.19323342
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>>19323286
>>19323304
>>19323316
Why was the last thread even prune? The OP pic was inoffensive and just some anime girl in a Russian city. And it was active with discussion. I even saved and found nothing wrong with it, so why prune it?

>> No.19323386

>>19323342
/lit/ is full of anti-anime spergs

>> No.19323388

>>19323386
Based

>> No.19323393

>>19323316
>Encourage anime OPs
>Good mod
Lmao, tranny

>> No.19323403

>>19323316
This is actual b8 lmao.

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>>19323286
I left for an hour and half the threads I was posting in were gone.

>> No.19323462

>>19323403
Not bait. My vision for /lit/ is for it to become /sffg/: the board. It'd be a huge improvement from what it is now. We'd have horror, adventure, and romance threads as well.

>> No.19323498

There was literally nothing wrong with the thread before this one. Nothing.
So why did it get pruned?

>> No.19323504

>>19323498
a mod clearly thought 1984 was supposed to be an instruction manual

>> No.19323535
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>>19323504
Its really no surprise that this board is dying when shit like this happens.
I cant think of single reason why the thread before this one got pruned. The image was standard for these threads, it was the only one in the catalogue, and there was normal conversation going on in it.
So if the mod can come in here and explain himself that would be greatly appreciated. Because last week there were 3 thread clones in the catalogue at any given moment and you completely let that slide. So what's going on here?

>> No.19323553

>>19323535
When threads get deleted for seemingly no reason it usually means someone got buttmad enough to reset their IP and just reported the thread 30+ times over.

>> No.19323599
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I like to think that in heaven, it is always autumn.

>> No.19323601

>every time I pray before bed, I have nightmares
Am I possessed?

>> No.19323619
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i been drinking a lot i aint gonna lie. gonna get high now too. nothing can be done about it

>> No.19323627

>>19323619
Stop buying weed and alcohol. Replace those vices with gaming or porn or something.

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>>19323236
I just wanked my last nut for the great no nut has started. Praise muh Vril lads and praise your Vril. Cultivate and Master your inner divine.

>> No.19323653

I have to decide between living with my relatives who's cooking have been giving me diarrhoea but they leave me alone or my sister who's a bit of a mental nutcase but cooking is good for the next two months.

>> No.19323657

>>19323653
Tell your sane relatives you might be allergic to something they're using.
If you can't tell them that, how sane are they really?

>> No.19323667

>>19323657
They're very pushy about food and would get offended if I say their food is giving me trouble. As is, I'm already eating 1/4 of the food they cook.

>> No.19323670

>>19323667
that fucking sucks lol, i hate how family can be like that. good luck

>> No.19323673

>>19323627
grew out of gaming years ago, sometimes there's a resurgence for a week or two but i wouldn't want to get back into it anyways.
never been much of a coomer either although sometimes i take breaks.
theres no winning. ive dug myself into a hole. i can try getting out but at this point i think ill always just be stuck down here. so at what point do you just continue digging? maybe theres something down there after all
https://voca.ro/1hDSq81jDY8Z

>> No.19323678

>>19323619
what u need to do is take a ton of lsd, like 5 hits blotter or even better liquid shit on sugar cubes, maybe throw in some mushrooms, just totally trip your balls to another dimension, then after that weed will just give u fucked up flashbacks and won't be fun anymore. seriously, after one summer where i did a shitload of acid i now kinda hate weed. like it just brings me back to those shitty last hours of coming down off your trip and you're not sure if you'll ever be sane again and you're superior paranoid with super irrational conspiracies and shit all around and you just feel like shit.

>> No.19323685

>>19323673
>grew out of gaming
>didn't grow out of smoking weed
usually people just smoke weed because they are too young to buy alcohol. it's not really as cool as you think it is.

>> No.19323692

>>19323619
>>19323673
you know you can just stop beating yourself over it right. also i notice you let anons on here tease you too much. half the anons on this board are unironically christian. and the red state type of christian at that. don't listen to them

>> No.19323695

>>19323692
>the red state type of christian at that.
Shiver me timbers!

>> No.19323697

>>19323673
How much are you smoking on an average night?

>> No.19323699

if my governor wins reelection he's gonna vax mandate the whole state. i'm already vaxed so i don't care, but all these public workers and other solid blue voters who are vax hesitant are going to get what they voted for. enjoy the mandate assholes. and no i am not getting a booster, i will move to another state fuck you. the pandemic is winding down, stop this ridiculous power grab.

>> No.19323704

>>/lit/thread/S19318752#p19321497 i've been having a really bad flu or something lately. coughing and runny nose while feeling suicidally depressed, half-sleeping here and there but constantly waking up to cough up phlegm, etc
got a corticosteroid spray from the pharmacy, it's been helping a bit especially with sleep but i'm still kind of fucked up

>> No.19323706

>>19323704
it's prob coof dude

>> No.19323712

>>19323678
Yup

>> No.19323719

>>19323706
maybe it's uhh idk. felt like shit for past 2+ months, might be the stress coming down hard on my body

>> No.19323732

>>19323719
everyone looks older after the lockdowns man. i came back to the office and the big boss looks like shit, all these moles and shit spread on her face looks way older, and other people just look tired and over the hill me included even tho everyone seemed youthful like 18 months ago, its like how they say in boxing sometimes a fighter "gets old overnight" but it happened to all of us

>> No.19323756

>>19323535
>>19323553
Seriously, why did they prune the last thread?

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>>19323685
i dont think weed is cool
>>19323678
lol ive been through a psychedelics phase already. the "shroom era" was not a pretty one, like really, if im not already at rock bottom then that was rock bottom. it got out of control
>>19323692
i dont think i can stop beating myself up. ive always had a distorted image of myself. its just apart of me, above all else i suffer from myself.
as for the anons, dont worry, i dont let it get to me too much. but i appreciate you v_v, you've always been cool to me
https://youtu.be/rhJw23R3E1A
>>19323697
currently i only smoke on fri,sat, and sun nights. the amount varies. its not so much the quantity i smoke or drink that makes me an addict. its my mentality towards these things.

>> No.19323773

im jealous of esl uni students because it seems as if they can make friends easily with their fellow speakers.

>> No.19323774

>>19323732
sad

>> No.19323775

>>19323761
so if you enjoy it do it who cares i know most people are going to be hatin when i order a new macbook pro but i use my computer all day every day for work and play, it's worth it to me, i don't care if there are "no games" or it's "not open source" i want it and i earned money to pay for it deal with it.

>> No.19323799

>>19323699
Like I said in a previous thread, the Democrats are literally never going to lose an election ever again.

>> No.19323800
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Shakespeare

>> No.19323896

The fatal flaw in fascism is in its central contradiction. On one hand it seeks to emancipate a people and free them from foreign subjugation. On the other, it revels in conquest, in imperialism and in colonization. In denying to others what it promises a certain group, it falls apart. All forms of fascism are born with this instability. I think it is a major reason in why fascism has lost again and again, for it is hard to support an ideology which exists on a foundation of hypocrisy.

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I don't know anything. I'm not even sure that I believe that.

It's impossible to convey what it means to look around at 30 and know you were wrong about everything you've ever done.

>> No.19323907

posting on here correlates with the low cycles of your life. im not saying anything's causal tho

>> No.19323933

>>19323236
With winter will come 2021's zenith of mental illness, and the subtle beginning of a seemingly never-ending shepherds tone of uncertainty. Sickness will be heightened, and remedies will be non-existent, all else left is fart.

>> No.19323956

>>19323896
fascism fails because anglo-american liberalism/imperialism will always be the apex-fascism, at least for the foreseeable future

>> No.19323968

>>19323896
its only hypocritical if you think it sets out for some sort of global egalitarianism. this makes no sense at all, try again

>> No.19323973

>>19323956
>literally everything is fascism

>> No.19323982

>>19323973
i don't care man, it's a convenient descriptor, and this place isn't exactly an ivy league debate hall

>> No.19324001

>>19323982
it doesn't in any way describe what you are trying to describe though

>> No.19324011

>>19324001
american politics are defined by protecting its middle class' interests abroad through war and general chauvinism. p much fascism as far as i'm concerned

>> No.19324057

>>19324011
i mean, thats not the most insulting "fascism is x" ive heard but its still pretty fucking idiotic and willfully ignorant

>> No.19324078

>>19323896
Fascism fails because a bunch of thugs takeover abuse their power and the people don't like it.

>> No.19324170

>>19324078
pretty sure that just your head canon? historically speaking, fascism was highly populist and generally had pretty good approval from the masses, mainly because making sure people were satisfied was literally how they maintained power, something democratic nations dont really have to worry about much. hell, the entire national socialist currency system was designed to ensure the growth of a currency was tied directly into the working class via infrastructure projects and social programs so money couldn't even be put into circulation unless it was going through the hands of working people and actually producing something real and tangible for the nation .

>> No.19324188 [DELETED] 

Lady Philosophy rapes me.

>> No.19324188,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>19323243
Rent free!

>> No.19324230

>>19324170
Maybe it's popular when it starts but from what I read it doesn't end well the people get rebellious because of the thugs in power abuset that power, authoritarian socialists even had more success than fascists.

>> No.19324254 [DELETED] 

im a piece of garbage i steal I drink I use drugs I feel like scum for spending so much time on this website but at the same time I feel like I learn a few things i don't know how to use grammar but at least I'm reading so fuck it

>> No.19324259

>>19324230
im 100% sure you just made that up for the ake of it but feel free to prove me wrong. rebellions were pretty much a non-issue outside of some small commie groups in Italy who only got the balls to act when the country was already half occupied and they had direct support from other nations

>> No.19324260

How to look other people in the eyes when I talk? It's easy for me to look at them when they talk, but when I talk it's almost impossible. The moment I try it I can't keep talking, I forget what I wanted to say, I think it's stupid and any self confidence vanishes.

>> No.19324268 [DELETED] 

i hate being "naturally" verbose sometimes i feel like it makes me seem disingenuine. maybe nothing to worry about but yeah

>> No.19324269 [DELETED] 

i used to suffer from that but now that Im a bit older (27) i just suck it up and look people dead in there pupil no matter how uncomfortable i feel inside then you sort of find your confidence and flow of words in that moment

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>>19324259
It wasn't a small group, the counter fascist forces were as big as the fascist forces. And the fascists were supported by the Nazi war machine.

>> No.19324295

>>19324282
anti-fascist/nazi partisan groups were immensely popular even outside of the eastern front. no surprise there

>> No.19324303

https://voca.ro/1aLRadqRwcip

>> No.19324306

>>19324282
you forgot to mention the fact that that wasn't a rebellion , it was was literally the new government of occupied italy acting as a proxy force for the allies stomping out the last remaining hold outs, and only like 20k of those were actual combat troops for the most part, hitting a peak at 50 000, with most of that number is inflated by people hired to fill basic civilian roles like directing traffic and working security etc. for the new government. it was literally just an extension of one of the allied army groups used as an occupying force.

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I don't understand how any man can be "pro state' considering that for the past century the state has done everything it can to limin and weaken his natural born tendencies. A woman can go he entire life without needing a man, except for a single night of impregnation, and she would find no troubles in fact she might even find less, all because the state already provides her with all the protection she needs. What is left for men in such a state, to pay taxes, die in wars and work all the shitty jobs? What lifelong goal or reward even is there if you're a man in this highly socialized, micromanaged world? The sole benefactors are women, and if men are feeling disgruntled all they can do is spend their time on one of the thousands of addiction the state so readily provides and sponsores. Yet all i hear is how the state is too "liberal" and needs to be more authoritarian from men. If the state colapses would there even be anyone who can rebuild it?

>> No.19324324

>>19324306
>20k of those were actual combat troops for the most part, hitting a peak at 50 000, with most of that number is inflated by people hired to fill basic civilian roles like directing traffic and working security etc. for the new government

Source?

>> No.19324340

>>19324324
1/4 of them were literally just men from the 15th allied army group, Mussolini was dead, and the italian government was completely dissolved and replaced by the allies. this is not a "popular rebellion", its literally just the allies and their occupying government fighting germans who pushed back and occupied northern italy and set up a proxy government of their own, this being in the last 2 years of the war when the allies were basically just cleaning up,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Co-belligerent_Army

>> No.19324377

How do you guys deal with the promiscuity of potential romantic partners?
I have a hard time truly engaging with a woman who has had one night stands, or kissed random dudes in nightclubs, or had too many partners, stuff like that.
I know that not all women are like this, but so far it's all I've found, which is very unpleasant.
I don't believe the silly speech that this is their past and that it tells nothing about them. of course it tells something about them, and I'm not sure I want to have children and bind my destiny to such people.
But I would like to build a family one day.

>> No.19324386

>>19324340
It's says most of the number are auxiliary troops not civilian roles, the Germans did take 600k Italian soldiers as prisoners.

>> No.19324387

>>19324340
>conveniently ignoring the CLN
go back to /pol/

>> No.19324410

>>19324387
>>19324386
your point? my point is that you were straight up lying through your teeth the moment you tried to misrepresent this conflict as a popular rebellion, dont try to fucking weasel out of this and pin it on me you greasy rat

>> No.19324422

bros i hate the chinese so much

>> No.19324434

>>19324410
projection

>> No.19324453

>>19324410
Well it was a popular rebellion against Italian fascist forces and with most of the Italian forces refusing to serve with the fascist forces.

>On July 25, 1943, Mussolini was deposed and arrested. King Victor Emmanuel III appointed Pietro Badoglio as Prime Minister. At first, the new government supported the Axis. Demonstrations celebrating the change were violently repressed. Italy surrendered to the Allies on September 8. Victor left Rome with his Cabinet, leaving the Army without orders. Mussolini was rescued from imprisonment by the Waffen-SS on 12 September. Up to 600,000 Italian soldiers were taken as prisoners by the Nazis and the greatest part of them (about 95%) refused allegiance to the newly established Italian Social Republic (RSI), a fascist state with Mussolini at its head, created on September 23. This was made possible by the German occupation of the Italian peninsula via Operation Achse, planned and led by Erwin Rommel.

You add that with the co belligerent forces and CLN, that's more than 2:1 against the fascist forces.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Civil_War

>> No.19324466

>>19324434
projecting what? i told you i thought 100% you were making up what you said, and you obviously were, so you just googled something and posted a carefully made screenshot from the first Wikipedia article you assumed would suit your agenda without even reading it first to confirm anything,

you lied, then you tried some slimy shit to cover your tracks but it turns out you are literally retarded and didn't even read what you were posting, so you played yourself.


instead of just having some fucking dignity and admitting you were wrong and maybe learning something for once in your life, you made yourself look like a fucking ass because being perceived as right was more important to you than the truth.

>> No.19324480

>>19324377
Bump

>> No.19324486

>>19324453
the country was occupied, it was game over dude, you're grasping at straws so fucking hard its unbelievable. that's not a popular rebellion in any sense of the phrase, its surrender. those people didnt rebel because life in italy was unbearable, they threw their hat in with the people who won the war.

>> No.19324520

>>19324486
>those people didnt rebel because life in italy was unbearable, they threw their hat in with the people who won the war.

It was probably both. If fascism was so good, the Italian people would try to revive it again, but they never did, the Italian fascists and Germans did some pretty brutal things against the Italian people.

>> No.19324532

>>19324520
lol this isnt a fucking hollywood movie my dude, the people were defeated, the allies achieved an unconditional surrender and the occupying forces dedicated years to an insanely thorough ideological purge of the nation.

>> No.19324534

>>19324520
Well, mousolini's descendant bearing his name just got elected on a far right platform so dont speak too soon.

>> No.19324542

>>19324532
Ardeatine Caves Massacre probably left a bad taste in their mouth too

>> No.19324555

>>19324534
What's his name?

>> No.19324561

>>19324542
a bunch of prisoners on death row, probably all partizans, were executed in reprisal for a bombing orchestrated by a communist subversive group. not exactly shocking, and is still literally not at at all a refutation to the point ive made in this thread

>> No.19324564

>>19324555
https://cms.trtworld.com/magazine/rachele-mussolini-rome-s-most-popular-city-councillor-50568

>> No.19324570

>>19324561
>Although it is sometimes claimed that the reprisal victims were predominantly Jewish, only 75 of the 335 victims selected for death in the caves were Jewish, this having been a criterion for selection (because Jews were known to be marked for death anyway).[17] In fact, the victims comprised, in [Robert Katz]'s words, "rich, and poor, doctors and lawyers, workers and shopkeepers, artists and artisans, teachers and students, men and teenage boys from every walk of life, and even a man of God to walk among them".[18] The main concern of the SS had been speedy fulfilment of the quota. Some were residents of Via Rasella who were home at the time of the Partisan attack; others had been arrested and tortured for suspected Resistance and other anti-Fascist activities, while still others had been casually picked up on the streets or arrested at their homes on the basis of tips from Fascist informants. The youngest of them was 15 years old.[

Not so

>> No.19324575

>>19324564
City council, C'mon

>> No.19324583

>>19324570
yes so
>n the following day, March 24, 1944, personnel from the headquarters of the Security Police and SD in Rome, led by SS Captain Erich Priebke and SS Captain Karl Hass, assembled 335 Italian male civilians near a series of man-made caves on the outskirts of Rome on the Via Ardeatina. The Fosse Ardeatine, or Ardeatine Caves, were the remnants of ancient Christian catacombs, and served as a convenient venue to carry out the reprisal shootings in secrecy and to conceal the bodies of the victims.

>Priebke and Hass had received orders to select the victims from prisoners who had already been sentenced to death; but the number of such prisoners fell well short of the 330 deaths required to meet the quota of the German reprisal plan.

The Security Police officers therefore added prisoners serving jail sentences, many of them for political offenses, as well as individuals known or suspected of having engaged in resistance activities. The Germans also included 75 Jewish prisoners,

>> No.19324586

>>19324583
>but the number of such prisoners fell well short of the 330 deaths required to meet the quota of the German reprisal plan.

Hence
>>19324570

>> No.19324593

>>19324586
hence you didnt even finish reading because the people who filled the gap were other prisoners, mostly partizans, who didnt happen be on death row yet. this isnt some sort of civillian atrocity that you seem to think it is, and once again this is literally just a diversion from the original point of this conversation.

>> No.19324598

>>19324593
>as well as individuals known or suspected of having engaged in resistance activities. The Germans also included 75 Jewish prisoners

People they basically picked off the streets or suspects they tortured to fill the quota

>> No.19324606

>>19324598
haha oh i see, we arent even debating anything now, you're just masking shit up for the hell of it.

Anyway in conclusion, i was correct when i said you were 100% lying and talking out of your ass and youve completely and utterly failed to provide anything to cover yourself despite having a couple hours to try and weasel your way out. goodnight

>> No.19324617

>>19324606
Lol

>> No.19324618

>>19324617
yes, what a fucking farce this has been. el oh el

>> No.19324627

>>19324618
U mad

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>>19324618

>> No.19324632

Had quite a traumatising last week or so. I think it is getting slightly better now. Just trying to slowly get myself to do things everyday.

>> No.19324647

>>19324627
yea, willful ignorance of this caliber genuinely leaves me feeling upset, im not going to lie and pretend otherwise. its not like there's anything to be happy about here. oh well

>> No.19324653

>>19324647
Just have a drink, I know I lost the argument, I was just seeing how long I could keep you going.

>> No.19324825

Relative-anon here. They served me boiled crabs without remove the shit from the insides first. I don't think I can do this.

>> No.19325118

>>19324011
Lmao

>> No.19325166

>>19324377
I just don't touch those kinds of women, a whore can't be made into a wife. If she has even gone to nightclubs it's a red flag. For those people physical representations of affection and love are devalued, either by their actions or their inherent beliefs. Number of previous sexual partners heavily correlates with all kinds of negative romantic outcomes and you very clearly do not want any of that shit. They are lying to your face and literally coping when they say things like "Sex matters now because it is with you" or whatever insane copes that ignore their biology and unconscious systems that they try to use to rope you into being okay with settling down with a literal used-up whore. There are good women out there, try to find one. If you can't do that find a young girl, women above 22 are usually fucked up in my experience.

>> No.19325218

Seeing my cousin again after about 5 years. We're going to start having sex again.

>> No.19325310

>>19324377
No hymen no ring is still a common practice in some more rural, traditional places, why not try and find a wife there?

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>>19323236
Bathroom flooded.

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I tried to be an electrical apprentice but I messed up at my two first companies. Not like I shocked someone or something, but a poor work ethic and lack of focus did me in. Now that I have had time away from the trade, I understand that all of the mistakes were my fault. I currently am doing door dash and uber eats because I don't have any other source of income (though my car is in the shop as we speak), and I know that this cannot last much longer; I will need an *actual* source of income.

I'd like to get back into the trade now that I have done some objective thinking about what I have messed up on, but at the same time I don't because I legitimately wanted to take my life while I was doing the work (which is in part why my ethic was so poor). I like that it's a skill, but at the same time it was pretty stressful and I don't think it'd be wise to go back into a job that makes me feel like that. I am not sure what I should do and I feel my depair and frustration mounting. Just last night I had a dream that my father and I got into a heated argument and I was about to take his life. I worry that if I apply at the wrong job, I will hate it, and want to take my own.

>> No.19325454

>>19323236
I want to be creative but I feel like I have no talent for any medium. Im only good at analytical things but doing any of them gives me no pleasure. I turned 3k into 100k in stocks and crypto and honestly the money is nice but it just feels empty, I feel perpetually imprisoned by my analytical ability and the complete lack of creative ability. My talent is basically being a parasite: extracting money from financial currents, working people up for a cause or manipulating their opinion by rhetorics, finsing holes in laws and regulations and so on. I dont really have any outlet for it other than the stock market, im a college droput so i cant become a lawyer or a politician or a philosopher. Its such a frustrating existence because I cant find a proper outlet for my built-up energy and simply making money is nice but a chore.

>> No.19325530
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>researching communal liberties and consular functions in 12th century Lombardy
>author cites fourth chapter of a document with three chapters
How is this allowed?

>> No.19325623

https://youtu.be/oYLxkGz00d0 i’d give up every computer to bring the mob back

>> No.19325709

I think my girlffriend has BPD, its becoming increasingly clear that she just CANT form a real trusting bond. Like she has black mail, she's hacked my socials, she's worked her way into my friend group and family and slowely they're being turned against me, she's cut me off enitrely from other women. Im practically her fucking hostage at this point and its so sad because there is a real person in there that i genuinely love

>> No.19325728

>>19325709
I don't have any advice or shit like that but I feel you anon.

>> No.19325737

I'm too midwit to understand The Prince :(

>> No.19325746

>>19325709
That's why you don't stick your dick in crazy. Also how could you love someone so unbelievably hostile and unstable? At this rate she will destroy your life if you don't cut her out. Don't be deceived by "love", your own personal well-being ought to be worth more to you than that.

>> No.19325754

>>19325709
You're meant to evaluate a woman in detail before you fuck her man.

>> No.19325788

>>19325709
You're a delusional idiot for keeping the relationship going after all she's done to you and still thinking there's a "real person" in her

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i wish i could watch my lectures on times 2 speed

>> No.19325880

>>19325788
its not like an antisocial person that's empty, its more ike she's a child. i dont even think she consciously realizes that she's being manipulative
>>19325746
shes hot though

>> No.19325974

>>19325754
She revealed herself it before we fucked, thats why i like her, she's self aware at the very least. maybe i have a savior complex

>> No.19326015

>>19323236
Would you sacrifice a contented average life or one of unhappy genius?

>> No.19326025

>>19325974
no you're just retarded the happy feelings inside you are not you

>> No.19326080

>>19324303
underrated

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>> No.19326141

>>19326025
appreciate the honesty

>> No.19326151

>>19323649
i'm on for the great NNN festival too

>> No.19326157

>>19326141
You're only going to fuck up if someone doesn't tell you the truth. Have to be able to separate unconscious systems from your sense of self, that high you get from sex and infatuation are not you but systems attempting to guide you towards something in life(HAVE KIDs, MARRY, HAPPY YAY!!!!). If you can't do that, and make the correct choices by overpowering these parts of you you're going to end up making bad choices when it comes to women as you already have. Make a sober evaluation, life is long and love is hard and demands a lot of you. Don't pair up with a mentally ill person who literally cannot hold up her end of the bargain that is your future union.

>> No.19326158

>>19323236
In recent years my friends have started taking interests in things like craft beer and fine arts and discussing "theory". I just wanna crack open a few natties and go fishing but it's always deleuze this, egon schiele that, fucking imperial high gravity maple syrup brealfast stouts that cost $12 and taste like shit. I love them but I cannot pretend to care about the thoughts of french pedophiles over an $18 breakfast at the new gimmick restaurant downtown. I'm going to kill myself the next time someone reads a passage of gravity's rainbow to me out loud. We used to do fun things together. Literature is a sickness, a bad habit for terminally bored soiboys, a silly consumer hobby that's somehow been turned into a mode of thought. Kaczynski should've bombed libraries and trendy little mom and pop book stores

>> No.19326203

>>19326158
Your friends are pretentious faggots who read books like normalfags wear designer clothes. The real intellectuals are the ones who focus on specific concepts and think about them in solitude for a lifetime. Similarly the people who have the strongest connection to literature generally have sensitivity to life in the first place and allow literature to supplement experience.

>> No.19326217

>>19326158
this was extremely funny to read. cheers bud. goodluck with your friends, i hope you can meet some new people who cater more towards your interests

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My friend wants to see my writting, then I tried to write a story/short story and noticed it was hard so I'm trying to write a poem right now. I hope I can do at least that

>> No.19326248

>>19326240
Why not show your friend something you've already written?

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>>19326248
B-but... I haven't written nothing ;_;

>> No.19326264

>>19326258
oh...

>> No.19326321

>>19326203
Ehh it was mostly a shitpost. They're alright guy, just a bit annoying at times. It's true that hanging out with them hasn't felt the same lately, but it's not like I'm any better. Our company is boring because our lives are fucking boring
>>19326217
Glad you enjoyed it anon. I definitely need to meet people. I think I'd have more fun with my friends if they weren't the only people I know. It's like a stale marriage at this point. We're so accustomed to the generalities of each other's speech that every conversation feels the same. It's like a ritual we have to perform

>> No.19326361

>>19323236
Waiting for three hours on the phone with social security to file the paperwork for my father's death, having the same shitty loop of elevator music intercut bore into my skull, has made me hate the US government more than an anything I could think of in recent memory.

>> No.19326375

>>19323236

My family are in the final stages of arranging a marriage for me. I have 'dated' the girl in question now for several months, and the time has come for me to propose. I can't decide one way or the other.

The girl herself is pure marriage material - kindhearted, goodnatured, intelligent, loyal, honest, and above all, absolutely beautiful. Every earthly instinct tells me to marry this girl, and to cherish her.

I have known her, and her family, for my entire life. Our fathers were very close friends when they attended university in [undisclosed Arab country]. They both pursued careers in the same field, moved to the UK at the same time after getting married, bought houses in the same neighbourhood, and both our familes grew up in the constant presence of the other. Her father is like a second father to me, and I have no closer friend in my life than the brother of this girl who I seem destined to marry.

So what is the problem? Here it is: all the people involved in this story are very devout Muslims, except for me. I had the misfortune of being infected in my teenage years with ideas of nihilism, pessimism, and atheism, and this led me long ago to cut all spiritual and philosophical ties with the religion of Islam. I have concluded that the religion is false, that Muhammad was a false prophet, and that the Quran is the literary work of man and not god.

Naturally, nobody knows of my apostasy - nobody at all - because it would completely destroy every personal relationship I have in my life, and would also literally mean the death sentence for me back in the old country, which I still regularly visit (and where my wife-to-be has expressed a desire to move back to eventually).

For this reason, it seems that I cannot marry this girl, who I love. She wears a hijab, prays 5 times a day, recites and has memorised the Quran, and loves her religion. Her soul is full of that innocent happiness and assuredness that seems to only come with faith. My philosophy today is completely incompatible with hers, and our lives as a married couple would be doomed to fail.

Perhaps I could marry her, to live a life of pure pretend? To pray, to fast, to generally LARP a Muslim, at all times, for the rest of my life. Only then could I have a future with this girl. But would it not be wrong to live a lie like this, to lead my wife in prayer to a god I don't believe in? But it's so tempting to me. This girl is like a treasure. And who else could I marry? Should I marry some English girl, with no cultural or enthographic relation to me, brought up with no religion or philosophy at all, who'd probably sucked 20 dicks by the time of her 20th birthday, who'd divorce me after 5 years and take my money? No. In my mind, it has to be her, or none at all.

I don't know what to do and I do not have long to make my decision. What would lit do in this situation, besides kill themselves? I am 25, girl is 22. Also her family is filthy rich.

>> No.19326385

>>19326375
You live for her, that's marriage.

>> No.19326393

my brain has been balkanized

>> No.19326402

I hate that I ended up being THAT guy at work. Barely speak to anyone beside the young guys who are my age. No one even responds to my greetings or small talk attempts, I guess because it took me too long to start doing that with the older guys.

Outside of work, I'm either at home or at the gym with virtually zero social interactions. I miss my pre-work days where there was a spot to hang out at. Now I'm alone in far city with nothing to do.

I'm lost. I'm not really craving human interaction but I'm pretty sure it's behind my boredom and confusion all this time.

>> No.19326426

>>19326402
Same situation, but I live in the middle of nowhere and work nightshift so the alienation is compounded due to vampire hours.
I'd be content to live like this if it weren't for the knowledge that if I did I'd inevitably die alone and with nothing to carry any memory of me forward past death.

>> No.19326444

>>19326375
you can start by raising a secular family. doesn't have to be that secular. not starting a family just because you're secretly not a muslim is retarded desu, I thought about it a lot because I'm kinda like you. I think you lucked out if she's that cute, you can brainwash her out of her faith with time, good luck brother

>> No.19326452

>>19326426
oh don't worry I work night shifts as well with a disgusting schedule. I just started working and I wonder for how long can I keep my sanity.

>> No.19326486

>>19326452
You get used to it. At least, I did but your job may not have the benefit of isolation

>> No.19326523

Should I do no nut november or is it reddit?

>> No.19326604

>>19326523
do it so you could bust a big one thats what im doing

>> No.19326628

>>19326523
Don't talk to strangers about touching your weiner, you sick coomer freak.

>> No.19326687

what is it called when two pages of a book are two different faces of the same page and what is it called the other way when they can be seen at the same time when you spread the book open?

>> No.19326698

>>19326628
are you new here?

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>>19323236
Twinks.
(Fuck NNN)

>> No.19326713

>>19326698
Yes I came over from Reddit last Wednesday, does this upset you?

>> No.19326727

>>19323236
I’m visiting relatives and they’re binging some reality show about rich Orthodox Jews being rich Jews. Has entertainment always been this bad? What’s the point in even trying anymore?

>> No.19326744

>>19326713
No :)

>> No.19326814

>>19323236
The power was out today and, lacking internet, I spent 4 hours reading a Henry James novel. This is never a good idea because it really drives home how practically barbarous I am compared to actually civilized people. I may as well be a deranged shrieking ape next to the portraits of aristocrats he paints. There is nothing to be done except cope.

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I used to dream all the time about getting caught in huge storms, tsunamis and hurricanes, and yet I'm still drawn to the coast.

>> No.19326891

I always sit down to read and then get stuck looking at my phone and end up not reading. I hate my life

>> No.19326893

anyone else has these occasional recollections of some old, old uneventful moments in life, yet in those recollections I appear to have a profoundly different inner experience than I do today. Is it the mixture of the childish curiosity, optimism, and innocence? they are always by an intense feeling that my life will NEVER be like that, it is almost overwhelming.

Someone might say I'm just talking about normal, run of the mill nostalgia in a faggy and pretentious way, but I think that this automatic response is just a another cope by the modern human.

>> No.19326906

>>19323286
I think one of the fags obsessed with WWOYM threads who spams them probs became a janny b/c ofc. So yeah, look forward to a year or so of a janny who doesn't read but desperately wants to be a /soc/ial butterfly. All puns intended.

>> No.19326911

Where oh where do we put all those people whose only crime is remembering having killed themselves?

>> No.19326915

>>19326891
Put the phone away in another room.

>> No.19326920

>>19326855
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVkD4lgXTEU

>> No.19326934

>>19325709
>there is a real person in there that i genuinely love
>>19325880
>its more ike she's a child.
That's why you shouldn't be dating her. The person she is cannot have adult relationships and basically has the mind of traumatised child. If you wouldn't fuck the traumatised child, don't fuck it when it has an adult sized skin. The personality you're in love with is one that's deeply and dangerously immature, and you're not loving it by dating it. You're feeding its trauma pattern and enabling its immaturity.

>> No.19326938

>>19326523
>>19326628 is right
You kids are retarded. Reexamine your whole everything.

>> No.19326951

>>19326938
benis

>> No.19327026

>>19326951
I stand down.

>> No.19327191

why?

>> No.19327206

I like jews

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>why not?

>> No.19327212

>>19327206
any group which makes people seethe that much is worthy of admiration

>> No.19327221

>>19327191
Boredom, melancholy, ennui, saudade, etc. ...

>> No.19327222

>>19327212
I take it youre a big fan of child rapists, noted provokers of seething

>> No.19327236

>>19327212
Some people always need something to blame.

>> No.19327258

>>19327222
I am, yes

>> No.19327279

How do you get over your fear of being alive long enough to write something?

>> No.19327326

>>19327208
I don't get these. People clearly make them to be as unpleasant to look at as possible. But aren't the people that make and post them the ones that spend the most time looking at them? And then they've probably got a folder with dozens of them. I find it hard to believe that the people that make these are immune to how grotesque they are, or they wouldn't take so much pleasure in spamming them to subject as many people as possible to the sight thereof. It's like rolling around in shit just to make other people have to smell it. This one's not a great example, it's only a bit off-putting. But the truly vile ones legitimately evoke the same feelings as looking at gore or maggots or shit

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>> No.19327440

>>19323896
I've thought about this. The future is either inhumanity or Western collapse.

>> No.19327441

I'm getting to that age where I need glasses to see my family. Specifically two glasses... of scotch!

Seriously though, crazy as this sounds, I just turned 35 and I feel the women in my family seething that they can't control me the way they've pussy-whipped all the other men, nor do I let them near my wife, because they'd just turn her into another suburban harpy like the rest of them, which is what they do.
Now I see why all the men who've divorced the girls in my family are actually half-decent men, my father included.
All things said, if there is any patriarchy, I gladly support it, because I've seen the opposite, and it's an infantile, bitchy hell, a vision of the future, a woman twisting your balls, for ever.

>> No.19327451

>>19323236
The mandate has arrived for me. Time to see if I can hold fast.

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The great problem of our existence is that we are entirely too defiant. Our defiance breeds every kind of alternative to our given course, whose consequences we are doomed to live out.

>> No.19327484

>>19327326
I find them genuinely artistic. This is probably just evidence of my low brow taste but I find memes in general very interesting

>> No.19327502

>>19327441
Women like that want to be put into their place and challenge you to do it repeatedly. Must be exhausting.

>> No.19327519

>>19327483
Defiance, our most awakened inclination.

https://youtu.be/XpomYmlwj1k

>> No.19327534

>>19327519
It's like Kierkegaard said, that humanity occupies an absurd middle ground, between the expanding factor and the finite factor drawing us back inward. Which one is more defiant!?

>> No.19327555

>>19327534
Kierkegaard runs parallel with Incubus frequently.
I've picked up most of my philosophy from alternative bands of the 90's-early 2000's

Never start with the Greeks.
Start with The Gin Blossoms.

>> No.19327558

>>19326934
all my exes are simlelar, and the more i think about it the more i see these traits in my mother. i think im doomed to play tug of war with one of these chicks forever

>> No.19327795

>>19325408
yes yes the water is out

>> No.19327800

I just read Ed Sheeran's wikipedia page. I don't believe his music actually exists or that he's even a real person.

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>>19327795
(You)

>> No.19327811

>>19327800
That's funny.

I asked the universe just the other day "Why Ed Sheeran?" Like is there a void that nature abhors and fills in with Ed Sheeren?

>> No.19327826

Went to hand out candy to kids for Halloween at a friends house. Everyone else— my wife and our friends— are losing it over how cute the kids are and how they can’t wait to have their own, and it hits me right then that I hate kids and I don’t want to ever have one.
How do I tell my beautiful wife that I no longer want children?

>> No.19327841

>>19327826
you tell her to grow up and understand that children are retarded parasites, you won't find your son so cute when he's stroking his cock and spraying cum on your furniture

>> No.19327860

>>19327841
What is wrong with you

>> No.19327866

>>19327860
No no, I think he’s on to something

>> No.19327870

>>19327826
lmao

>> No.19327879

>>19327826
just tell her something like "what if our kid turns out as ugly as you?" or something like that

>> No.19327918

>>19326687
When you say page you actually mean leaf. The page is one face of the leaf. But I'm afraid I can't help with the terms you're looking for.

>> No.19327923

>>19327826
by killing yourself

>> No.19327949

>>19327826
Just tell her you don't want kids, she might leave you but don't ruin her fertile years.

>> No.19327968

>>19327440
>Western collapse.
Perhaps the West needs a collapse. China had to undergo a Century of Humiliation before it remerged as a superpower. The same might go for the West. Granted, the West will have a much harder path than China did, due to the ethnic and religious tensions.

>> No.19327978

>>19327826
if you dont tell her now, consequences be damned, you can rest assured that you are bad person.

>> No.19327980

>>19327968
It's seems like Biden is starting the century of humiliation.

>> No.19328009

I read one book a day since Saturday. I'm tired. I do nothing but read.

>> No.19328010

>>19324260
It sounds like your consciousness is too caught up on yourself and how you appear or sound. Try analyzing the other person more than yourself.

>> No.19328025

Bros, I'm a little spooked. I've climbed up enough from rock bottom that I just got a really nice job offer. I'm sober about eight months, physically active, I do creative stuff all the time, I'm reading, I think really the only thing I'm still lacking is no gf but that's not really bothering me. Things almost seem to be going too well. Like my unconscious is expecting me to screw up

>> No.19328038

>>19327980
They are a strange thing. Not just Biden, but liberals in general. I think they genuinely believe that they are doing what is right. I wonder if when all is said and done, they will realize they were wrong, and they helped destroy that which made the lives they enjoyed possible. I don't think they will.

>> No.19328052

>>19328038
They are not really conscious of what is happening in the strict sense of the word. I dont know if you have any friends or family members who are progressives but if you gently sound them out on some of these issues you can practically see their brains turning off as the discussion edges closer to the issues. I don't blame these people at all, their social instincts are screaming at them to not get ostracized from the tribe by defying authority and consensus and taboo.

There are other types who dont fit this profile of course but it applies to most of the normal ones.

>> No.19328071

Don't stick your dick in crazy, I had to learn that the hard way. Or alternatively, stick your dick in crazy and then promptly ignore her.

>> No.19328075

>>19328071
Don't stick your dick in anything else than the beloved person you want to spend the rest of your life with. Don't waste time. Read books instead.

>> No.19328079

>>19328071
what are the obvious and not so obvious signs of a crazy bitch?

>> No.19328085

>>19328079
she's willing to have sex with me

>> No.19328123

>>19328038
They are just kleptocrats, they don't care if America loses energy independence and the people they get the oil from are enemies of their own country and the cost of living becomes ridiculous. They get paid in speaking fees from their donors, left wing gets donations from renewable energy so they don't care about anything except money. At least China had some goal even though they are greedy as hell too. America seems to have lost its goal.

>> No.19328200

>>19327826
You're going to make this poor woman miserable.

>> No.19328206

I'm starting to think that I don't really belong anywhere. Sure my body and my eyes see the outside world but I feel like I shouldn't be here, I feel like an uninvited guest, or an unwanted son.

>> No.19328297

>>19328123
>Fighting climate change, the ONLY thing liberals are right about, is bad

>>19327826
>How do I tell my beautiful wife that I no longer want children?
Why do you have a wife then? Literally the only point of such romantic relationships is to have kids.

>> No.19328305

Finding a job is hard and soul-crushing. I’ve been getting by from babysitting my niece while attending school
I am very thankful for my supportive family

>> No.19328320

Psychoanalysis is braindead schizo babble. Notice the only practical application it has is dissecting anime for midwits such as Evangelion and Monogatari.

>> No.19328337

What's the point of literature? If there is a purpose to existence, it couldn't be written down anyways, it would be experienced.

>> No.19328341

>>19328337
Why couldn’t one write down the experience?

>> No.19328344

>>19328206
There's plenty of people like you unfortunately. I often think about stilborn children when somone says life has a purpose.

>> No.19328345

vaccines aren't protecting people from spreading or getting the virus. mandates over showing proof of vaccination make absolutely no sense at this point.

>> No.19328360

>>19328345
The problem is getting through to the people who don't feel that way.

>> No.19328377

>>19328337
>>19328341
Writing literature is the ultimate act of vanity, even writing this is vain. The greatest man to have ever lived has probably never wrote (unless to pay taxes or write letters).

>> No.19328403

>>19328345
yeah but pfizer doesn't make money that way. politicians and their parties dont get massive donations either

>> No.19328407

>>19328337
There really isn't any point, especially if you subscribe to a nihilistic or pessimistic world view.

but the truth is that literature is the product of the writer, just as music is the product of the musician and the film is the product of the filmmaker. What's interesting is that while we can define these roles quite clearly, they don't ever say anything inherent about the deeper implications of society by themselves, in fact all "Art" really doesn't have anything inherent to say even if there might be some blatant theme or message, take a look just how much language and society has changed, there's no way that a book like Homer's Odyssey would have the same impact as it did in the time of the ancient Greeks.

all this is really to say that literature itself is pointless, what is not pointless is that the artist had created something from nothing and had an audience to witness the creation. If you can think of it in terms of future society, An AI can write words just fine, an AI could write a book, after all it's just a bunch of parameters put into a machine anyways, anyone can write, but only the artist derived from that literature and art can notice something that doesn't exist, and make it whole.

>> No.19328413

>>19328377
>The greatest man to have ever lived has probably never wrote
What would define the greatest man?

>> No.19328429

>>19328413
Virtuous, Moral

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>>19323236
>prev: >>19299320
Wew. My thread is going down in a glorious Halloween theme. Nice.

>>19328206
Be a trespasser and sneak around. And realize we all are just as much .

>>19328344
There are multiple purposes to life. A wild labyrinthine world full of them. Children know it from the start instinctually, but are corrupted by old minds that get stuck in some odd ideas like there’s a single purpose. When the single purpose belief wesrs off, people get depressed about it.

>> No.19328461

>>19328297
They aren't really fighting climate change, America is just importing oil and natural gas at a higher price from countries with lower standards of environmental protection. America losing energy independence makes life more expensive for all Americans and inflation worsrse and it affects the less fortunate more, taking food off their tables.

>> No.19328544

its annoying how prevalent it is for people to be allergic to ideas.

>> No.19328547 [DELETED] 

my polling location to vote tomorrow is literally in a public housing project full of drug dealers will i get killed if i don't for the the democrats

>> No.19328549

>>19323236
what drives my compulsion towards insubordination?

>> No.19328550

>>19328429
I don’t see how a lack or excess of writing would influence that

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The dormant cerulean seaway stretched itself ahead of the plots of land, huge peninsulas of rich, bountiful swathes of green. The sky above had a muted ghostly azure that encompassed the mountains at the distance in an etheral mist of ambiguous presentations, seeping in slowly as if to eventually entirely swallow them into its fog. Here, on the land, there were watercolors of flowers of all varieties and pigments, painting a kaleidoscope of many different shades and hues. Fuschia flowers that painted the green canvas in horizontal thick brushtrokes, contrasting somewhat with other hot pink ones, used sparingly in the landscape, grouped into little bunches or bushes. Some of the red flowers were of a blood red yet blushing hue, a plush, pinkish sangria, while others were of a salmon-inclined scarlett that responded to the sunlight by transforming to a coral shade that gave the impression of delicately painted auric contours at the edges of its petals. Little round white flowers, like floating ivory particles, twinkling little sparkles of shining snowflakes floated atop the bushes upon which they grew. The grass, all around, and the leaves of the shrubs gleamed in the bright chartreuse of a sun-blasted transparency of an emerald.

>> No.19328558

>>19328553
half a sentence of that purple bullshit was quite enough for me stopped reading right there

>> No.19328566

>>19328558
I understand that it's not for everyone but I am going for a maximalist, Nabokovian affected style, anon. It is the point and the aim.

>> No.19328567

>>19328553
Absolutely based

>> No.19328573

>>19328567
thanks anon

>> No.19328580

>>19328553
like it but the "contrasting somewhat with the other hot pink ones" sounds out of place in this fine prose

>> No.19328582

I greatly enjoy Masterchef Canada but I despise Masterchef America. Everyone on the Canadian version is nicer, and the judges aren't as mean as the American ones.

>> No.19328586

>>19328573
Its awkward at moments, mostly your sentence construction, but I love this sort of thing

>> No.19328588

>>19328580
yea, it sounds like a break of the style, I could have done better there

>>19328586
I admit it's very labored so it can get kinda unnatural

>> No.19328589

>>19323896
>>19323956
Fascism fails because like Marxism-Leninism it stupidly believes equality, liberty and freedom can only flourish through using depotistic measures to enforce a community (Gemeinschaft) through state
power without realizing that the Gemeinschaft in itself is an alienating substance since individuals are too unique to be sastified by any form of uniform nature

>> No.19328602

>>19328589
This has unironically the main focus of my political thoughts lately. We rely on the state to ensure that our equality and liberty are not infringed on by others. But the state itself is almost always engaged in oppression. The institution needed to protect liberty is the thing that threatens it most. How do we escape this dilemma?

>> No.19328624

>>19328602
By realizing that the state is not completely unnecessary to protect liberty.

>> No.19328634

>>19328624
>the state is not completely unnecessary to protect liberty
Did you mean that as written, or did you mean to say
“the state is not completely necessary to protect liberty”
or
“the state is completely unnecessary to protect liberty”

>> No.19328815

>>19328589
i highly doubt this was a problem in actual fascist nations, let alone something that caused failure

>> No.19328837

>>19328815
That was one of the things that brought it down, yes.
Any nationstate collapses because of this unnatural state of being. Society needs to be more elastic

>> No.19328865

>>19328589
>>19323896
>>19324078
these are all incorrect and in some cases literally just retards patting themselves on the back for hating fascism
>>19323956
this is at least partially correct despite the obvious silliness of equating liberalism with fascism. a better way to put it is that literally the the only valid "fascism failed because X" we can empirically come up with is the that by its very nature it =VERY abrasively flew in the face of a world order that was in crisis but not weak enough, so it got itself backed into a corner, and was annihilated purely force by more powerful entities and ground itno dust by the most thorough ideological purge in human history that makes anti- communist efforts in the US during the cold war look like child's play

>>19328837
no that is literally not in any way what brought it down, or even part of what brought it down, you are objectively incorrect, and your assertion is, as i said above, literally just ideological masturbation based on nothing but your feelings towards the subject

>> No.19328891

>>19328550
Aesthetes nor intellectuals are virtuous.

>> No.19328897

>>19328891
But I don’t think that impedes one’s way to virtue
More fundamental flaws in character are what do that.

>> No.19328912

>>19328865
The major thing that brought brought them down was their going to war.
Same as the US. It’s just taking much longer.

>> No.19328945

>>19328912
no shit

every other answer here other than fascism being brought down militarily as an extension of their emergent place in geopolitics and economics is literally "why i personally dont like my perception of fascism", not "why fascism failed"

>> No.19329046

>>19328549
>insubordination
dysfunction relationship with father, failure to integrate healthy relationship with authority, single mother syndrome

>> No.19329054

>>19328945
no true scotsman

>> No.19329056

>>19323896
>The fatal flaw in fascism is in its central contradiction. On one hand it seeks to emancipate a people and free them from foreign subjugation. On the other, it revels in conquest, in imperialism and in colonization. In denying to others what it promises a certain group, it falls apart. All forms of fascism are born with this instability. I
You literally just described nature. Everything is an extension of violence/power/deprivation, even your pencil pushing job is in many ways analogous to imperialism, you are supporting the status quo that functions through force and deprivation. As long as scarcity exists this will fundamentally be true for every system.

It's not hypocrisy in the slightest, what is hypocrisy is pretending liberalism or democracy do away with this paradigm because of how loud their slogans and conditioning are.

>>19323956
Basically. The economic powers of the world didn't get that way by accident, they were challenged and won and will keep on winning.

>> No.19329089

i was at a party toight and almost smoked weed due to the peer presure of being aroubn other people. but i didnt, insetad i drank a shit ton.
so tell me, did i do the right thing?

>> No.19329094

>>19329089
yeah

>> No.19329099

>>19329089
Why did you choose to not smoke?
Why did you choose to drink?

>> No.19329108

>he thinks the Earth has a carrying capacity
>he thinks there isn't enough energy in nature to colonize the entire universe
>he thinks the latent information in present organisms is not enough to predict emergent properties and restore all extinct organisms
>he thinks we don't have the power to accelerate the recovery of organisms in the same way we have the ability to accelerate extinction processes
Why are ye of little faith? Our ancestors bless the 9-child African family. Why do you fear famine and war? Post-crucifixion-- suffering is not even a bad thing now. It is only suffering that will propel man to the stars. Ask for the graces from God. It is up to Him to rip open the seals and destroy the world. We can't destroy the world. We can only build it up and offer it as a pure sacrifice in order to Transubstantiate it into the divine. Nature serves mankind. We need to have a masculine view of the future. Not resign to false generalities based on the present ignorance. Why do you stop breeding, cowards! You want everyone to live in luxury? COWARDS. EMBRACE PAIN. TO THE STARS. SACRIFICE THE EARTH AND BUILD IT BACK FROM THE RUINS. Climate-apocalypse cowards. You will not turn mankind from its inevitable evolution!

>> No.19329112

>>19328589
True

>> No.19329113

>>19329054
how does that in any way apply to my post?

>> No.19329120

>>19327826
Pedophiles are the ones who hate children

>> No.19329121

>>19329099
>Why did you choose to not smoke?
weed is an addiction im am currently trying to get under control
>Why did you choose to drink?
alcohol is an addiction that i am able to control(exept maybe not recently, i wont lie i been drinkijgn a lot)

To put it simply, vices fix vices i guess (?)

>> No.19329134

>>19326375
The solution is to vow celibacy and convert to Christianity

>> No.19329138

I keep having mental breakdowns wondering if I said something that could be considered obscene to my new (younger) frens. I'm very careful with my words, tone etc esp. since I harbor no actual hate, but I do have the autism to routinely mention subtly some counter-cathedral attitudes. my hope is that they're narrasistic enough to not even hear me most of the time.

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19329154

2 weeks in, this was the first judo session I lasted the whole time(2 hours) without sitting out or puking in the bathroom.
I'm making progress

>> No.19329160

>>19329154
Cool dude, I love Judo. Wish to start soon.

>> No.19329163

I came here today pretending that everything is alright and that everything will remain the same, that I'm still a 15 year old loser, or a 20 year old loser, or a 25 year old who's barely getting things done (also a loser), but my life is about to take a really extreme direction that will transform me into someone new.
This is a dead man posting, I'm going to reap what I sowed all these years. Goodbye everyone, I can no longer keep pretending.

>> No.19329167

>>19329138
well what'd ya say?

>> No.19329177

>>19329163
Did you catch the aids?

>> No.19329191

>>19329160
No joke, this is the hardest thing I've done in my life. I've been a sedentary skinny guy for the previous 5 years and decided to join the university club because I always thought judo was cool. Had no idea the level of conditioning you need in this. I'm getting my ass kicked but enjoying it

>> No.19329205

>>19323236
I found a beautiful jigsaw puzzle. Been doing a couple lately.
Should I go with 300 or 1000 pieces?

>> No.19329210

>>19329205
Decided to go with 300 pieces.
Idgaf what any of you have to say now.

>> No.19329275

It was from feeling oneself that one had reached the last barrier, that it was horrible, but that it could not be otherwise; that there was no escape for you; that you never could become a different man; that even if time and faith were still left you to change into something different you would most likely not wish to change; or if you did wish to, even then you would do nothing; because perhaps in reality there was nothing for you to change into.
-Fyodor Dostoevsky, Notes from Underground

>> No.19329306

>>19329275
wtf that's unironically me

>> No.19329327

>>19329306
It's a lot of people

>> No.19329458

some kid is going to be living in the year 5000 and look at this time period of 2021 and think ww2 either never ended or we had been vastly correlated with the results of it. also what if a last final wave comes. the first short wave of ww1, the second longest being ww2, and then finally another shorter wave being ww3

>> No.19329460

>>19329210
shoulda challenged yourself more anon

>> No.19329465

>>19329458
ww3 would be a blessing at this point, a wrench in the gears of a horrific machine

>> No.19329473

>>19329465
did you read war and peace? tolstoy argues that history is just a flow through space and time, there is no set event but other than the tension in the air. also economically speaking i think most wars start due to resources and countries are starting to pull back in 3rd world conflicts probably because they now have to focus resources closer to their capitals

>> No.19329521

>>19329473
yes, if life is as fatalistic as tolstoy feels, i certainly hope it jerks us in a different direction

>> No.19329548

I had a dream where I uncovered some great conspiracy at my shitty retail job to commit genocide. I imagine this just means I hate my boring retail job, but it was a wild ride.

>> No.19329589

>>19329548
lmao

>> No.19329627
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19329627

well there goes my fucking morning

>> No.19329659

Had an argument with a guy today who said the USSR was "sometimes good" after me saying it was a shithole. He thought there were no homeless people in the soviet union lmao, then I showed him sources and after well sort of winning the argument, he complained to the mods and they banned me. I'd been on that server for almost a year and knew like everybody. Redditors truly are soulless. Never joining a reddit sub again.

>> No.19329676

>>19326711
<3

>> No.19329686

>>19329627
you’d get a VPN if you were truly dedicated

>> No.19329700

why are minors (11-18) so drawn to this website?

>> No.19329731

*listening to a song that’s just ass* man, they fucked up the mixing

>> No.19329752

If all the cute girls I know are already taken does that mean I'm just an ugly son of a bitch?

>> No.19329767

I hope that if and when I solve consciousness and therefore existence and reality, through deep meditative thinking, "I" will be removed from this experiment and cease to exist while my simulated flesh runs its meaningless course to dust.

>> No.19329784

>>19329700
Does the wider public still talk about 4chan in hushed tones like we're some sort of dark secret of the web?

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19329796

covid test came back negative. im still sick as a damn dog. still feel like a text generator
https://youtu.be/gR9QdLqXx-I
https://youtu.be/5_pucMAO45E
https://youtu.be/aLRHZSyfkyY
https://youtu.be/G60szF_vesk

>> No.19329871

>>19329784
nope, especially not teens. it became kinda taboo during and after 2016 though, but only in a superficial way

>> No.19329932

Every time I write something I eat a word out of my sentence despite thinking about the sentence as whole. Some people catch on it but it goes unnoticed. Even to me.

>> No.19329941

man if the government wants to mindbreak me why don't they at least fuck me like a SISSY BITCH

>> No.19329982

Nobody has any god damned idea what thinking is and I've had it up to here with these people. People think they think their own thoughts. This is apparently not so if you were to pay attention to your thoughts for one solitary fucking second. You don't come up with your own thoughts!

>> No.19330131

>black out at my hotel's bar
>bartender drags me to my room
>next day I go back there to chat with him
>"hey bro I saw your guitars, we could call some girls I know and camp on the beach, you just bring your acoustic"
What should I do bros

>> No.19330204

got injured and need surgery but they wont even see me cause i dont have insurance. probably gonna have a disability without it. feeling even more hopeless and lonely than i was before. to all the healthy anons out there, be grateful, things could always be worse.

>> No.19330230

>>19329676
How are you today, “<3” replier?

>> No.19330240

I don't care about anything but true greatness and the divine but I'm stuck on faggot world with a body that has to piss and shit

>> No.19330303

my super lib vax scold abortonist friend harangued me into voting today so i voted against everyone she recommended. you want me to vote so bad? ok fine. it's like you see on ebay ratings sometimes where they put "you kept emailing me asking for a rating? well here you go: one star!"

>> No.19330329

Size matters. A good size makes you confident. Many girls don't really care about size, but just one girl is enough to kill your whole body image.
>It's about the motion of the ocean
Yes, but the right motion is harder to train with a small one, and chances are you'll never be able to get to that skill, if girls aren't patient with you.
The worst thing about it: once there starts to be conflict in the relationship, the girl is much more prone to dump you if you don't have a good dick, making your relationships less stable.

>> No.19330330

>>19329982
Based, our thoughts possess us.

>> No.19330441

>>19330230
Working on some paintings, what about you? Got my new apartment this weekend, so I'm happy about that.

>> No.19330556

>>19330441
>Working on some paintings
lets see

>> No.19330594

>>19330329
I have a good sized pp and I've never experienced a girl caring about it or commenting on it. I had one girl complain her first bf had a cartoon monster penis and it just hurt and made blowjobs impossible so she prefers "medium sized," I asked her to clarify and she said mine was the max she was okay with.

In general I've only ever had girls complain about male obsession with their dicks. Have had tons of them tell me about how weird guys are with dick pics, apparently it's normal to have half your male coworkers snapchat you a dick pic and "haha oops my bad!!!" at some point. But for the most part every girl conveyed the same thing, dicks are a technicality, they are not interested in dicks the way men are interested in boobs.

Most of what women are interested in is how you make THEM feel. Women can fall in love with anybody because their hormones and emotions are fully retarded, and a woman in love with a guy who is well beneath her league will still have extreme sexual need of being validated by him. If you validate your girl (obviously in a non simp way) you are 75% of the way to satisfying her, the other 25% being actually making her orgasm (oral and fingering is easiest).

But it's a testament to how much more important validation, and affirmation that the man she loves finds her irresistible, are to a woman that a lot of women don't even get regular orgasms or orgasms at all from their boyfriends and hookups. A lot of girls who hook up constantly are not having orgasms from most of them, they are looking for the validation feeling of this impressive interesting man expressing with his lust that they are beautiful and desirable. For a lot of women, the penetration part, the actual mechanical sex, is more "for him," it's the man's payoff for doing the validation part for her. Obviously this is deficient, and the ideal is that she orgasms too, but my point is that women CAN actually tolerate highly unreliable orgasms and still enjoy sex and love purely from validation.

Do gay shit like buy them flowers and show you think about them, try to do little things that show you are protective and possessive (but not in a weird way), be an active listener, and even if you have a small dick, you are basically guaranteeing whatever poor woman ended up dating you will be obsessed with you for a long time.

>> No.19330817

>>19330594
You are absolutely right. All I'm saying is the size matters for the guy's confidence, not anything related to any girl. And also, some girls can really hurt you with it when they want.
You are right about the roasties and nymphos often never orgasming, this is real interesting to me.
>whatever poor woman ended up dating you
>poor woman
A low blow after an otherwise supportive post :-)

>> No.19330953

>>19330594
Just curious, how do you hide your boner in public? Mine conveniently fits right next to the leg in my trousers and is pretty well hidden when sitting.

>> No.19331191

New thread
>>19331186