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1932020 No.1932020 [Reply] [Original]

Is it me or have universities become a joke?

>> No.1932028

It's just you.

>> No.1932033

they've always been a joke

>> No.1932039

It was your decision to sign up for clown university.

>> No.1932036

Depends, which universities? Certainly not all of them have.

>> No.1932046

The curriculum of a given university is largely decided by the job market.

Starbucks analyses the books customers are reading, and the curricula adjust accordingly.

>> No.1932049
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>>1932039
I go to one of the top 5 uni's of the country. My uni ranks amongst the top 30 in the world (according to http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2010))

eat it.

>> No.1932050

>>1932020
http://www.amazon.com/Closing-American-Mind-Allan-Bloom/dp/0671657151

>> No.1932051

>>1932046
>He thinks working at starbucks is more tidious than working as a IT technician after finish his computer engineering course.

>> No.1932053

>>1932039
I lol'd.
>>1932049
You take yourself too seriously.

>> No.1932056

a place for propoganada, universities are in a special place in my heart where mainstream media is

>> No.1932073

>>1932049

You made this thread just so you could wave your dick around, didn't you?

>> No.1932080

Universities are a joke because they teach unsubstantial, liberal-biased bullshit, while telling you that taking a class on "Hispanic Marketing" or something equally retarded is a good life decision.

>> No.1932088

>>1932073
lolno, hence the Krusty Clown college.

It's just....women studies, corrupt textbook industry, hiring foreigners who can't speak english perfectly, "facebook people", intellectual slaves (do their masters bidding without question in return for a modest income), programming/brainwashing, deliberate inefficiency, baby boomer teachers with a terrible grasp of technology, Power Point Profs who make 100k a year doing the same easy shit every year, the list goes on.

*honk honk*

>> No.1932100

Clown college?
you can't eat that!

>> No.1932101

>>1932088

>Women's Studies

Every cultural identity needs to have its place, including the identity of women. And, really, let's face it, women's issues are important to current events and always will be in a traditionally male-dominated society like our own.

>hiring foreigners

If you need someone to teach a language, hire someone who knows it. Immersion.

>complaining about professors that use too much technology, then ones who can't figure out technology

Make up your mind. Neither means a teacher is inefficient.

>> No.1932111

>>1932088
> hiring foreigners
THEY TOOK OUR JAWBS

Seriously, your bitching makes me think you're a faggot who writes for the daily mail.

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>>1932111
This. There's so much butthurt.

>> No.1932118

University is a joke outside of math, the sciences, and engineering, yes.

>> No.1932117

>>1932088

>brainwashing/programming

>implying students don't come to their own opinions.

Jesus fuck.

>> No.1932120

It's a terribly broken system, like pretty much every institution ever founded. It only gets worse as it gets older and its bureaucracy grows. I still like making $55 000 a year to start. Perhaps it's worse if you studied something more on the useless side but even friends of mine with degrees in philosophy and religion and film studies all have somewhat decent jobs. It's a dick that most people have to suck and the cum you swallow isn't all bad.

>> No.1932124

>>1932120

Not too much of a prob if you enjoy sucking the occasional dick, either.

>> No.1932125

>>1932118
I just rolled my eyes so hard my retinas disconnected.

>> No.1932131

>>1932117
Most people are fucking stupid and don't think for themselves.

Most people do as they are taught or how society (their socio-economic environment) dictates.

>> No.1932137

>>1932131

I guess you're right. I mean, the only reason I don't grab womens' asses is because I've always been taught touching a woman without her permission is wrong.

>> No.1932141

>>1932120
I said that already bro

>>1932088
>intellectual slaves (do their masters bidding without question in return for a modest income)

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>>1932137
You're not going de-rail this thread into a femenist debate lol.

>> No.1932152

>>1932144
>Femenist
>feMENist
You are invading our liberties with your male-driven agenda!

>> No.1932160

>>1932131

>Most people are fucking stupid and don't think for themselves.

And I suppose that you're one of the few intelligent people who does think for themselves?

>> No.1932166

>>1932160
Well, I like to think so.

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>>1932160
Yes. I am apart of that meager 2.1% who have an IQ above 130.

inb4
>IQ
>Real measure of intelligence

Most people living are border line retarded.

>> No.1932175

>>1932166
do you think that redistributive taxation undermines your freedom?

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>>1932169
>He brags about his IQ on 4chan

>> No.1932180

>>1932175
Not as much as progressive land tax.

>> No.1932186

>>1932169
for someone who's got such a high IQ, you sure lumped in "thinking for yourself" and "high IQ" together quickly.
maybe logic is the part of the iq test you didn't ace.
and your sweeping generalization at the end? beautiful.
faggot.

>> No.1932188

>>1932169

>Most people living are border line retarded.

No, most people living have an IQ of 100, or very close to 100. That's how it's designed.

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1932205

>this thread

>> No.1932208

>>1932137
>>1932160
>>1932175
>>1932184
>>1932186
>>1932188
freedom hating collectivists

>> No.1932213

Learning skills and applying those skills creatively in exchange for money is for slave-sheep.
Earning things is akin to being raped.
Fuck society, everyone but me is stupid.
Anything with any negative aspect is homogeneously evil.

>> No.1932227

>>1932208
Why does it make me a collectivist if I call out someone for lying about their IQ?

>> No.1932229

>>1932213
come on now, that isn't what I'm saying at all.
It's just that university standards (it seems to me), has drastically plummeted--socially and academically.

Where are the striving perfectionists: the renaissance men? Ones whom I seek the platonic company of.

>> No.1932239

>>1932208
Are you the guy claiming that everyone else has been brainwashed by college propaganda? Because if so, wow.

>> No.1932242

>>1932239
I'm saying that most everyone is brainwashed (not just by colleges).

>> No.1932265

>>1932229
Well, they're not up your ass so you can get down out of there

>> No.1932276

>>1932265
My ass is the only haven I have to escape the idiocy that surrounds me.

>> No.1932285

>>1932276

Maybe if you let other guys in there too they will become smarter.

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>>1932285
I'm not a faggot.

Women are my greatest vice.

>> No.1932297

>>1932285
I'm sure he lets plenty of guys up his ass, amirite?

>> No.1932307

>>1932292

Well there's your problem. You gotta dump the bimbos and get with the scholarly gentlemen.

You don't know intellectual stimulation until you've experienced pillow talk with a fellow male intellectual.

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>>1932307

>> No.1932314

>>1932307

A man finds freedom and solace only in escape from the chains set upon his mind, soul and body by his female captors.

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>>1932314
Bwah!
That's it, I'm out of here.

>> No.1932352

>>1932117
>implying they teach students to think logically rather than with a predetermined answer.. which is socialism
>implying they'll grade all view points the same, and not just magically give a higher grade to the left view points

>> No.1932378

>>1932352

What the fuck? You can be a conservative or even a fucking monarchist and still get a good grade on a paper if you defend your views clearly and present them intelligently.

Maybe you're just stupid.

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>>1932352
>>1932378
>Thinking in political constructs instead of scientific ones
>2011

LORD HAVE MERCY.

>> No.1932456

>>1932378
Not true.
My writing isn't that great. If anything I should be getting a C+ on the papers I write.
Best example was an anthro class I recently was forced to take(upper division general ed!). We had to write a synopsis of the failures or successes of american immigrants. One was the Chinese americans, the other was a specific type of mexican immigrant, the yucatan.
I wrote that one of the successes of Chinese immigrants is that their women would stay home rather than work to look after their children, and that the men would then work 2 jobs. Their children were raised educated, and had low crime rates. To me (as a conservative), this was a major plus to their success.
She underlined this whole part and I got a C-.
Next was on the yucatan. I scanned the reading material and regurgitated her rantings from in class, and then I got a B+.
I recently read how a lot of elementary schools are taking away writing standardized testing. I think this was in Chicago. The rational behind this was that as long as the students 'get the picture', they don't need to write well.
Tell me that isn't brainwashing. Since when was writing not about structure instead of the ideas. They're destroying their fields of work with their politics.

>> No.1932463

>>1932456

>student
>Thinks he capable of gauging what grade he should get

>> No.1932471

>>1932438
Everything is political in general education. Perhaps your college was different.
In my philosophy class one of our textbooks was "The Daily Show and Philosophy" by jason holt.

>> No.1932492

>>1932463
From the past with fair grading I have the ability to guage that.
You trying to denounce me also does not take away from the fact that magically when I change my politics in my writing I seem to jump in grade dramatically.
And that is the point. What would be a fair grade? Why is it that if I wrote shitty and take the words out of Marx's mouth I'd get an A?
Just trying to improve myself here, but college has not been helping.

>> No.1932521

>>1932492

>From the past with fair grading I have the ability to guage that.

Every professor is different.

>You trying to denounce me also does not take away from the fact that magically when I change my politics in my writing I seem to jump in grade dramatically.

It wasn't that you changed your politics, it's that you actually followed the material being taught.

>Next was on the yucatan. I scanned the reading material and regurgitated her rantings from in class, and then I got a B+.

Grades get better when you read the material and listen to the professor! It's like magic!

Just curious, but did you actually speak to your professor about your perceived injustice?

>> No.1932548

>>1932456
If you truly believe that you were graded wrong I encourage you to post your papers so I can read them and give you an honest opinion of what you should get. Granted I don't grade papers for a living but I have a good enough sense to see what a "good writer" is opposed from someone who is outright bad.