/lit/ - Literature

>>19299853
Not very far. You'll learn some phrases and some vocab, but not grammar or culture. Lots of people like to swear by it because they've invested time in it, but it can only take you so far.

YMMV, and it may depend on the language. I expect it could be useful for getting a start on a new language, which would then be supplemented by actual teaching/study.

My experience was with german. I did 2 semesters of german ten years ago and, knowing that I'd be moving to germany to teach in a year, I started using the app daily. It did help me to remember some vocabulary and idiomatic phrases, but it taught me nothing new. I needed more grammar and culture. (Incidentally, the Seedlang app is much much better for German in every way).

For tourist travel it's probably fine. For fluency or reading, it's not near enough,

nowhere, you're just going to continue progressing through the app without remembering shit

Language is simple: Learn the grammar, remember a fuck ton of parts of speech (words), and read a lot.
speaking languages?
that's just fucking gay.

>>19299885
Yeah kinda this, it felt like a lot, but I could barely hold a conversation with my Spanish friend.

>>19299853
Not far at all. It's basically only useful in helping you get back on track with a language you already have some proficiency in or in helping you get started with a new language that belongs to the same family as a language you're already fluent in.

>>19299853
It's more of a game than a real tool. The CEO admitted that they dumb things down to keep people interested. If you want help learning languages, check out the /lang/ general on /int/:
>>>/int/lang/

>>19299853
I've learned English from Drops. After three months I started watching movies with subtitles. After two months of that, I started commenting on Reddit. After a year I would say I'm proficient in understanding pretty much anything if it isn't
a negro or hick talk. I still use Grammarly for chrome to correct me and google.translate if I still think something is wrong with what I wrote. Now I'm trying to read in English.

>Drops - every day (I used cracked pro version)

>start immersing yourself in the world of that language (example: movies/youtube clips)

>start using the language in places you couldn't give a shit about (example: reddit)

>use programs that correct your spelling

>start to read in that language (I'm reading book that is not translated to my language. It's very interesting and the only way I can read it is by understanding what is written. Book: Manipulated Man by Esther Villar)

Any position on Duolingo without specifying the language is retarded. Some courses, like Latin, literally have just a handful of sentences and cover a tiny fraction of the language's grammar. Other courses, like French, are nearly endless and have nearly 100000 sentences and cover the language's grammar comprehensively.

>>19299853
No where. It's courses designed to keep you using the app and playing it as a game rather than learning. At best it might teach you some words but there are better ways to do this. Language apps are shit but basically any other one is better.

>>19299892
You should learn to speak from the beginning. Before anything else. Because it's harder later on and speaking makes it easier to acquire the language. It's easy with the internet because you have endless free listening material. No excuse not to have at least intelligible pronunciation.

>>19299853
I finished the French tree, then moved on to listening to a podcast for French learners and with just that I felt confident enough to read Camus. Then Hollebecq. Then Victor Hugo. I'm about to start with Balzac, and then I'll move on to Baudelaire and Flaubert. So yeah, it took me pretty far, since all I cared about was reading. Now, for speaking, listening and writing I'd need a lot more practice, but since I'm an asocial faggot who was only interested in French for its literature I'm good. I do have to admit that I already speak both Spanish and English, which might (most likely) have facilitated French to a considerable degree.

>>19300000
Checked

I like audible and just listening to harry potter in the second language for 4 hours at a time.

Don't listen to other anons, duolingo is a great starter tool. However, do realize that it is suppose to be supplementary to an actual workbook. Also, it depends on the language. You can get pretty far in Italian, French, or Spanish, but it will do nothing for you if you try to learn Japanese or either of the Chinese languages.

>>19299853
I tested out of everything under Chinese after my first semester of Chinese college.

The man has a husband.
The boy became a woman.
The black man is better than the white man.