/lit/ - Literature

this bitch muted me and just wont open my fucking messages and im tired of this disrespect. Im going to launch a preemptive strike and block her. That'll fucking show her. Fuck her "im too buys" bull shit. I aint buying. I even posted passive aggressive stories shaming people for leaving me on read. I am so fucking livid right now i could cut my arm off

>>19294625
why get so upset that you sperg out and post on social media because you got shot down? just move on bro

>>19294657
I can sympathize. I used to be that guy. You'd find out a girl you're dating is hooking up with another guy, and instead of just moving on id be like "I'm going to catch them in the act", like im Sherlock fucking Holmes and by exposing their lie it would somehow improve my life.

Instead of, you know, saying 'fuck it' and expending energy elsewhere. God i sucked.

Looks like the wheel of time series will have Egwene as a potential dragon reborn. Thoughts?

bros I love big tits

>>19294668
Did you ever get close in catching them in the act?

>>19294617
I'm attracted to long legssss

reading Lovecraft short stories is so comfy, its beyond me why a few people here sperg out and get virulently angry in every lovecraft thread

anyone have an recs for Poe short stories? i got a complete works book of his too and I think im in the mood

>anime fag OP
>thread has already devolved to cuck posting
>200 "woe is me muh life is so sad" posts incoming
why do you losers post in this shit general?

>>19294781
I can understand the original premise here and why it was allowed, but the mods dont give a shit whats posted here so its basically become /lit/s personal little /b/ and /r9k/

Don't reply to buttershit you fucking retards

>>19294625
Stop getting so upset over the decorative sex.

I went into that discord that was posted here yesterday and holy shit what a fucking retarded group of people. I wasn't expecting much considering it's a fucking discord server, but holy shit just pure unfiltered autism.
It's like a circle jerk of the most stereotypical /pol/ users stuck in their edgy late teenager phase. Just a constant spam of people calling each other nigger, faggot and chud, accompanied by an obsessive amount of tranny wojack edits. Just pure fucking cringe. I really hope they aren't over the age of 20, if they are that is just fucking sad and embarrassing. If anyone from that server sees this, kill yourself, the average IQ of this board will go up. At the very least stop letting trannys live in your head rent free.

are we getting raided again?

>>19294764
>anyone have an recs for Poe short stories?
All are good, the Astoria [sic?] one especially. but it's not horror.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpCHppNUCPk
Bros, is 4chan mainstream now?

Why are they all so hard to understand?

I'm pooping

>>19294973
Is it a good poop?

https://youtu.be/btQD32RRD_o?t=150
Why doesn't the US do stuff like this? It's genuinely awesome. We should be more patriotic, like China is.

>>19294989
> we should be more like backwards low iq stone age tribalists!
Nationalism is such a joke, your kind is going the way of the dodo, and the world will be much better for it.

>>19295009
>your kind is going the way of the dodo, and the world will be much better for it.
I don't see it. The emerging hegemon is nationalist as hell. If anything, we are ascending to a more nationalist paradigm.

>>19294625
feel u brother. use this energy for something productive.

>>19295009
>noooo you can't want the country you live in to be prosperous noooooo aaaaaaa twitter said it's unwoke nooooooooooo we have to give all our money to africans i'm going insane !!!!!!!!!!
holy basedboys

Can someone offer me genuine ADHD advice. Please. Like a book or something idk. Please.

AAAAAA I WANNA RAISE A QT DAUGHTERU AND DOTE ON HER AAAAAAAAAAA

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/04/19/cornel-west-howard-classics/

>>19295131

>>19294617
Never compare yourself to basic dumb bitches, slackers in your college class, complacent family members, friends with no dreams—don't even compare yourself with those who are living right now. Compare yourself with the best to have done what you want to do instead.

>>19295131
In all seriousness, don't use those ADHD drugs, they fuck you up.

>>19295131
don't eat anything with artificial colors or dyes in it, that shit will give me terrible adhd, won't be able to do shit but shitpost for like 48 hours if i eat that shit

>>19295131
Amphetamines are pretty great until you get locked in a thought loop trying to revise the same paragraph for 5 hours.

>>19295163
you mean the garbage 9/10s of america stuffs its face with every day?
you know... that explains a lot.

I used to take Ritalin it was ok but it killed my personality and made me feel high in a bad way. I just learned to force myself to concentrate when I needed to.

>>19295181
There is also a vitamin supplement you can take to replace ADHD medication. You can Google it, make sure it's the legit vitamin supplier for ADHD.

>>19294617
i'm so fucking pissed at how fucking wasted the first 18 years of my life were while kikes like von neumann and fucking norbert fucking wiener get born into jewish tier educations for doing nothing. I don't want to abolish public education since it works for most people who don't care but by god I am pissed at how much I either have to teach myself or it's too late to learn as a foundation with any efficiency as I am better off just skipping the foundations now because my time is more valuable on the limits of what I can comprehend but regardless the limit of what I can comprehend would be so much higher if I had the correct foundations instilled as a child when there's not much else you can learn. people wonder why there are no geniuses anymore.

>>19294617
ok i need to get this off my chest before starting my assignment because fuck this class. it's a philosophy of art class. i am an artist. i know what art is. i am quite well-acquainted with art and have encountered it in many forms. i really didn't want some old sperg confining art in technical terminology that feels like trying to understand something alive by way of taxidermy

>>19295199
genuises are a social construct, people could easily build a cult of genius around those dudes who published all those deep learning papers like 10 years ago, bengio, hinton, etc.

>>19295198
https://www.hardynutritionals.com/products/daily-essential-nutrients-with-added-vitamers-360
This is the supplement a doctor recommended me
https://www.hardynutritionals.com/videos/newshub-alternative-adhd-treatment-proves-effective
Probably a better path than amphetamines

>>19295161
>>19295163
>>19295171
>>19295181
ive been diagnosed since i was 8. I've already been through years of amphetamines and they've already done all the damage. i stopped taking them every day after highschool. I still take them sometimes but they don't even really make me focus.

>>19295199
Just work hard, dumbass. I'm over 40, wasted my 20s drinking and 30s raising a kid but I'll probably learn faster than you because I don't bitch and moan about my past

>>19295226
what is art then? sounds like you never thought about it much at all. you're probably a bad artist who draws furries on twitch.

>>19295243
I can be bitter and work hard at the same time

>>19295161
I'm on them right now and I'm fine

Just read the Proteus part of Ulysses. Some cool verses like "Womb of Sin", but I didn't get much. Even the words, I don't know if it's because I'm ESL or if it's just esoteric on purpose. Is there a point to read things I don't understand? Sure, you are not supposed to get everything from the first reading. The Portrait is probably my favorite book, so I'll believe in Joyce and carry on.

>>19295260
Well I got off them a feel much better.

My hearing is doing this kind of waffle thing.

"WAFFLE WAFFLE WAFFLE"

goes everything. I've been sick.

>>19294947
Ur asking this at least 4 years too late newfag

>>19295245
i have very strong personal opinions about art, one of which is that art is impossible to confine within the bounds of the rational intellect. in its most sublime form art is wholly irrational and has the capacity to pull one from lived time. art is mysterious insofar as it mirrors the mystery of anything existing at all, and it acts as a bridge between minds. it is the driving force behind all culture, invention, language, and the strange notion of a thing being another thing. in light of this, in its ideal form art should strive to break one's way of seeing the world. so i consider most things commonly considered to be art (i make an exception for furry porn since that is the only kind of art in which i am proficient) not to be art but tired instances of things that were once art. true art reorients our perception and extends the horizon of our reality.

what i despise is when academics disguise an interest in rococo or dada or whatever by appealing to the ontology of x and classes of y, and sterilize art completely by turning it into something independent of the human mind, like an object of science. all the papers i've read for this course are just pure discursive masturbation and miss the the true essence of art. i used the taxidermy example before but i think a better metaphor would be trying to understand the act of flight by reading a construction manual for a Boeing 747, parsing equations modeling air resistance and diagrams of parts- while completely missing out on the deeper, self-generated familiarity with flight of flight that only a bird would know.

>>19295131
You're not going to read a whole book anyway - just get good at writing lists. Numbered lists with clear instructions written as imperatives.
But since it's /lit/ I will recommend GTD by David Allen, but the thing no one tells you is that book is only for people who get assigned a lot of tasks or already have a lot of responsibilities and need a taxonomy to help them section it.
If you don't have shit to do, or little responsibility it's of no use.
Even so - just write lists.
Number them.
Use verbs and express each item as an imperative.
Keep the list in a highly visible place, because as someone with ADHD you will forget about the list or forget to add shit to it. Always keep it in the same obvious place so you never misplace it.
*Yes, a digital to-do list that automatically syncs across all your devices would be acceptable too

>>19295199
iktf. good thing is you can teach yourself and reach heights that even ivy league university can't provide. most rich kids are lazy cunts and their teachers are just leading the horses to the water.

>someone on audiobookbay responded to the flood of lefty woke books by uploading a bunch of highkey far right and white supremacist books
based. if you browse here: you're a king. fuck mbs though man what about mp3?

I've been taking college and now graduate courses nonstop since Fall 2019. I am genuinely burnt out. I am probably going to fail this semester, and then I am going on a leave of absence.

I thank God I'm not ugly

>>19295090
>twitter said it's unwoke
nationalism has been completely obliterated by intellectualism and academia for over a century

>>19295485
okay s0jboy enjoy moving to NYC or london and having a taste of that diversity pie, and don't forget your stab-proof jacket. intellectualism and ivy tower academia have been btfo by crime statistics and white flight. remind me again who drew larger rallies, was it trump or was it biden? no one with a democrat sticker on their bumper can even tell me one aspect of what they like about biden, they just got so assblasted they voted for "the guy who isn't trump. mean tweets bad." nationalism is the unpleasant reality of life that doesn't go away with a kitschy new netflix movie featuring a diverse cast. like it or not, our country competes with other countries. it must compete. our economic loss is their economic gain. our military weaking is their military gaining an upper hand. decrying nationalism because it gives you a feel-bad knee-jerk reaction is naive to the point of lethality.

I'm fucking sick of the internet being filled with vague questions where the answer is technically 'yes', but it's not the answer the OP wants
>Is there a job where you can pretty much get paid to eat?
>Do straight guys ever go to a club just to bro out and not with the intent of getting laid?
>Does anybody else talk back to the commenters during sports, even though you know they can't hear you?
Like statistically, yes, there is at the very least a tiny minority or single remote opportunity. But the OP never phrases the question as:
>I have a degree in business management but my real passion is cuisine, and I was wondering what are the options and opportunities for me to work eating as much different foods as possible for a job?
>What is the general career pathway towards becoming a food critic? Do you need to be a writer or do you need a culinary background? I'd be very interested in doing that.
Is it because the vague option gets more hits?
Is it because people don't know how to ask questions?
You know what - I don't care - this is on my mind and it pisses me off.

>>19295515
Nationalism is a literal meme for braindead /pol/niggers, just like obsessing over le huwhite race

>>19295520
Don't worry, zoomers and ESL immigrants are reducing all queries and statements to their constituent elements as understood by a caveman.

>Job where i eat free?
>Subway

My favorite is when they want to say something like "Excuse me sir, but might you have a response to my query?" and they just say "?" instead. If you're selling something to someone and on the way to deliver it and lose phone service for five minutes and when it comes back you have a bunch of
>?
>??
>?
>??? texts

Fucking subhumans. Is your horrible monkey life really so important that you need to maximize Red Hot Cheeto eating efficiency by speaking to me like a grug?

>>19295515
This, there's nothing even wrong with healthy chauvinism either. Europe was at its best when national pride was balanced with a sense of shared deeper cultural roots and destiny.

Oswald Mosley is quite a good writer on this in my opinion. In the near future European peoples will have to decide whether they want to exist at all, or not. The Schmitt "decision" of friend/foe can't be put off anymore. Are the Muslims who despise your way of life who keep raping and terrorizing your people your friends or not?

I honestly don't know if Europe has enough of a will left to say they're not. But I still hope so.

>>19295485
And yet China is a nationalist superpower in ascendancy, and the nations who reject nationalism have been in uninterrupted decline for decades.

>>19295537
Europeans are banding together more because of the Islamic hordes, that's a positive.

>>19295548
Eh, they might talk a lot but at the end of the day the EU still stands and migrants come in year after year. The Europeans have chosen extinction. My hope is that those who replace them do not repeat their mistakes.

>>19295531
I didn't realize this was permeating to personal correspondence as well. Shit's fucked! I really don't want to be having to act like a fortune teller interpreting the fucking oracle that is the question obfuscating the actual line of inquiry they have.
But it also reminds me of a Alan Davies joke
>A woman will always answer your question with a question, like if you ask: "Where's the post office?" she'll reply "Oh, do you want to post a letter?"

>>19295515
Its not like Trump was on his way to solving any of the issues white people care about, unless that issue is the economic capitol of Israel or getting rappers pardoned.

>>19295560
If Europeans get replaced, it doesn't matter if horde gets replaced by another horse. The goose that laid the golden egg is gone.

>>19295567
horde*

What an embarrassment.

>>19295525
nationalism is wanting the company you work for to stay profitable because you realize that otherwise you're gonna be out of a job

i want amphetamines

>>19295567
The European golden goose was mortally wounded in WWI and was killed in WWII. Modern Europeans are not the Europeans who built grand empires, or who invented the foundations of the modern world. These are a broken, conquered people. Comparing them to the old Europeans is like comparing dogs to wolves. It will make no difference to the world if Europeans die off and Arabs or Africans take their place. Hell, European countries might grow stronger without the European peoples' guilt complex hampering them.

>>19295537
this is very basic shit. if liberals want to import somalians by the hundreds of thousands, why do they not want to move to somalia? they can't even be honest with themselves. there is no such thing as magic dirt. a country isn't a shithole because the land is cursed by an evil sorceror. if a country is shit it's because the people are shit. i see a whole lot of somalians wanting to move to america but i don't see any americans wanting to move to somalia. let's cut the bullshit and be honest with ourselves, even at the risk of offending some upper middle class white girl who attends university on daddy's money.
>>19295542
china is now doing what originally made rome successful -- looking at other countries objectively, adopting what makes them good, and rejecting what failed for them. and so they're rejecting gayshit, feminism, consoomerism, and other s0ishit because they can be honest and say among themselves that the more leftist a place gets the worse it gets. no one wants to live in san fransisco where soft on crime approaches shuttered all the stores and homosexuals overrun the streets assfucking each other in public. i can't even hate china because they're just doing what is logical, and i want my god damned country to return to doing what is logical and cut the 'feels over reals' shit so they can consider harsh economic realities. it's all fun and games until the famines start. people now are acting so recklessly because they dont understand famine and national poverty can happen again and can happen to them, if they dont get their shit in check and make their country successful. and a bunch of fagged up limp wristed leftists are not the key to success. i don't want to live in detroit and i dont want to live in somalia, so how about everyone else? let's acknowledge that our economic and militaristic hegemony is in decline as a direct consequence of rampant cultural marxism and leftism.

imagine being THIS stupid

this is LITERALLY you, pic related

>>19295612
It does make a difference because there are still people in Europe who want to preserve it and Arabs and Africans would make an ugly replacement not to mention they are violent and can't do science. They don't have the intelligence to make Europe better, only worse.

>>19295565
"preferred nations" where americans would pay the same price for pharmaceuticals that indians, canadians, or anyone else gets to pay.

there. just one policy and i've murdered you. now shut the fuck up, leftist. i'd say people being able to afford lifesaving medication is a good thing for whites living here. our pills are made in the same factories as the pills indians take, but for what they pay $2 for we pay $200.

I'm tired of people and will be isolating myself from them for the time being

>>19294989
us government deliberately wants to demoralize their people to control them, this shit has the opposite (intended) effect

By the laws of physics, color is the result of light being absorbed only in certain wavelengths in an object, the color provided by the wavelength that isn't absorbed. By that logic, inverted colors are the true nature of the world, if instead we saw an object as the light it absorbed.

We live in a world of darkness, castigated by the sun. Our eyes shine not with the bright lucidity of life, but the fell cambion glow of the dead. This world may not be Hell, but it certainly may be Purgatory. Our ego shells were formed here in the metaphysical, shaped by the physical world. We are trapped by these physics, deafened to the words of higher powers, left to the strict order of the demiurge, who exists as physics. Our lives are predetermined, and yet they are not. We flux and flow with causality and what ripples lie in that fabric become the world we know after.

Wrath against the accursed sun.

>>19295641
>there. just one policy and i've murdered you
Okay kiddo, you got me.
Orange man good.

>>19295635
>responds with a straw man cartoon because he can't explain why i'm wrong
you're a child. if you support inviting millions of guatamalans here unchecked tell me why you won't move to guatamala.

>>19295635
When the engines of wealth are within your borders, you can use them to improve everyone's lives. When other countries have them and you do not, you, personally, will be at risk of exploitation.

>B-but we are already exploited!
I would encourage you to leave the West and visit countries which aren't strong enough to rebuff Western power to see real exploitation. It amazes me that people can still think this way.

>>19295009
I belong to one of the smallest ethno-religious peoples on the planet, and for us it’s what guarantees our survival.

>>19295655
now you're giving big pharma a blow job just to avoid admitting you're wrong. go ahead and suck pfizer off. justify type 1 diabetics falling over dead because they can't afford their medication, that someone in india can purchase for a dollar instead of three hundred dollars. go ahead.

>>19295668
>big pharma
Jesus, you know all the hits.
Don't worry. Its just a phase.

The existence of the universe necessitates that it must be experienced subjectively. We are here because there is no reason we wouldn't be. It's horrifying really.

>>19295687
>The existence of the universe necessitates that it must be experienced subjectively.
Why?
>We are here because there is no reason we wouldn't be.
I don't follow

>>19295635
That's a strawman cartoon. You forget the violence mass immigration brings to first world countries, many of the first world countries are fairly egalitarian too. The old caricature of the robber baron doesn't work. The robber baron would want to tear apart borders because he wants cheap labour.

oh yea, nationalism is NOT OK and hurts your community!

>>19295696
Just think about it.

>>19295715
I must admit I vastly prefer Israeli Jews to the American ones. At least Israeli Jews have brains when it comes to politics.

>>19294625
>passive aggressive
Men should only ever be active-aggressive.

>>19295683
>has no response
>has no argument
>can only make an appeal to the new york times and fauci to save him

men cannot become women. there are 2 genders. there is as much genetic difference between whites and blacks as wolves and coyotes. despite being 13% of the population blacks commit 56% of the crime.

God I hate Trudeau. He just appointed a defense minister with no experience in the military or counter intelligence, just some Indian woman politician.

>>19295715
It's so hard for me to understand this. Jews and uppity minorities going to OTHER PEOPLE'S COUNTRIES and telling them how to think and live as if they're entitled to the place, like they're the authorities on culture. Even dominating and excelling there, and still talking down to the native population about having pride in their own homeland. That's just so fundamentally wrong on every level, I can't understand anyone who does it or doesn't mind it. If I went to a foreign country and thrived there I would feel this tremendous duty to honor it and its people. How can someone not have that instinct at all?

It's beyond ideological. It's like a spoiled brat, I have nothing to say to that person except that they're fucked up.

The level of hate for these people is unreal and they have no understanding of it because they think people should be grateful to be their underlings and second class citizens, IN THEIR OWN HOMES.

>>19295715
jews seem to be trapped in a viscous cycle, they really just cant help themselves can they?

theyre afraid of persecution so they try to completely dismantle their hot nation to make it safe for themselves, and people in the nation see what they are doing and obviously get pissed off, so the jews are persecuted. the jews then move on, find a new host, start becoming afraid of persecution, so they start fucking with their host nation to make things save for them..... so on and so fourth ad infinitum


i honestly think, in the current year, early national socialist style persecution of jews would be undeniably completely morally correct in the long term because they have israel now and they can just fuck off and stop being parasitic diaspora, everyone lives haply ever after (except Palestinians i guess)

>>19295406
Thanks! I can read a book if i really try so feel free to recommend some if you want

>>19295773
Can you guys really blame the Jews? They spent 2,000+ years without a homeland. Don't you think that will twist a people, giving them a strange way of thinking and troubling political strategies?

Give the Jews time. Assuming they can hold onto Israel, (which given Haredim idiocy and their neighbors, isn't a sure thing), they will eventually settle down into being a normal people. They are healing 2,000 years of trauma, it will take time.

>>19295790
well like i said, I understand why they are the way they are, why they chose to act as parasites, but the reality is that in the end of the day they ARE extremely harmful parasites, and with the creation of isael we have an option to deal with them in a way that doesn't involve zyklon B

>>19294925
It’s a permanent raid, yes.
See >>19294781
>>19294792

>>19294963
Why are they hard?

>>19295773
Well some of them see themselves as a persecuted minority and it's their duty to protect all the other minorities.

>>19295807
Can you erotic roleplay with me? I want to see how good of a writer you are.

>>19295773
exactly this. the jews are a tragi-comedy race. they continually bring about their own destruction out of their anxiety of a destruction.

they're a race of losers who only got ahead financially because christians were forbidden to be usurers but jews were not. look up the origin of "the jews wait for the camels." even arabs btfo jews. i pity them so much i should like them to disappear. it's like keeping a stinking beaten dog around to befoul the atmosphere of the room. but instead of whimpering the dog is haughty and conniving, overflowing with hubris, and is ceaselessly vexing and obnoxious towards its owner (who provides it housing and food to begin with, and to whom it should be grateful.) you can read about the destruction of jerusalem by josephus and get a measure on the ethnic character of the jewish race. he tried everything to get them to be humble and prevent their own extermination, titus made every sacrifice to offer them a peaceful resolution, and instead they acted so ingraciously that they begot their own extermination. if there were a god i should like him to put the jews at last out of their own misery.

>>19295773
The funny thing is, there were discussions to create an Israel in "antisemitic" circles going all the way back to the 19th century, the Nazis seriously considered it.

The Lehi even tried to get in touch with the Nazis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(militant_group)
>the British during World War II. Lehi initially sought an alliance with Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, offering to fight alongside them against the British in return for the transfer of all Jews from Nazi-occupied Europe to Palestine.[15] Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain, Lehi twice attempted to form an alliance with the Nazis.[15] During World War II, it declared that it would establish a Jewish state based upon "nationalist and totalitarian principles".[15][16] After Stern's death in 1942, the new leadership of Lehi began to move it towards support for Joseph Stalin's Soviet Union.[10] In 1944, Lehi officially declared its support for National Bolshevism.[17] It said that its National Bolshevism involved an amalgamation of left-wing and right-wing political elements – Stern said Lehi incorporated elements of both the left and the right
>Stern's proposal would "turn the 'Kingdom of Israel' into a satellite of the Axis powers."[53]
>The organization offered cooperation in the following terms: Lehi would rebel against the British, while Germany would recognize an independent Jewish state in Palestine/Eretz Israel, and all Jews leaving their homes in Europe, by their own will or because of government injunctions, could enter Palestine with no restriction of numbers
>Even as the full scale of Nazi atrocities became more evident in 1943, Lehi refused to accept Hitler as the main foe (as opposed to Great Britain).
>Stern also proposed recruiting some 40,000 Jews from occupied Europe to invade Palestine with German support to oust the British.
>"it is not Hitler who is the hater of the kingdom of Israel and the return to Zion, it is not Hitler who subjects us to the cruel fate of falling a second and a third time into Hitler's hands, but the British."


You know who stopped them? The Brits kept infiltrating and redirecting their attempts to contact the fascist powers.
>However, the "intermediary" Rotstein was in fact an agent of the Irgun, conducting a sting operation under the direction of the Irgun intelligence leader in Haifa, Israel Pritzker, in cooperation with the British.
>Stern's group was seen as a terrorist organisation by the British authorities, who instructed the Defence Security Office (the colonial branch of MI5) to track down its leaders. In 1942, Stern, after he was arrested, was shot dead in disputed circumstances by Inspector Geoffrey J. Morton of the CID (British colonial gestapo).

"British Jews"/"Jewish Brits" are just pure satanism. They didn't WANT Israel, they already had the London Stock Exchange, which is a global Israel.

>>19295826
Also sidenote, the Lehi had one of the best fascist albums.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u5Z0GZ1WsE&

>>19295811
if by protecting minorities you mean its in their interest to eliminate the people of their host nation and turn it into an identityless multiracial farce so they are less likely to be targeted by identity politics

>>19295635
It took centuries to breed the cattle to respond that way.
The natural inclination is to be free of it though. They can unlearn it.

>>19295790
they were expelled from jerusalem to begin with because of their seething and petty underhandedness towards rome at the time. even when all the other roman tributary states got along well with them and reaped much benefit from the relationship. if jews are without a homeland they have only themselves to blame. titus went out of his way and risked his own life to offer them a peaceful resolution that meant they could keep jerusalem and their temple and god. but they spat in his face and left him no other option but to eradicate them.

and you can't even say the text is biased because it was written by a jew, himself vexed to despair by the deplorable malignance of the actions of the jews, who ultimately brought about their own well deserved by that time downfall.

>>19295741
It’s Canada

>>19295865
>>19295840
>butterdyke making posts i agree with

>>19295838
That's backfired in Europe, Jews are being attacked much more often now because Muslims hate Jews more than anyone.

How would you stave off loneliness?

>>19295648

>>19295873
holy fuck i love immigrants now. they do the jobs we won't.
i notice that leftist stopped posting.

>>19295879

>>19295873
eeh, youre thinking way too short term, i honestly dont think that will last because the newer generations born in europe will become westernized globohomo zombies like everyone else. its just a matter of time. the whole far right "western shariah" thing is just fear mongering, and i say that as a "far right" national socialist

>>19295889
If the rate of immigration was slower, I'd agree with you. Given the sheer number of immigrants/refugees (and we haven't even seen climate refugees yet) I think a wholesale replacement of Western institutions by Islamic ones is inevitable.

>>19295889
I don't think so, Israel will always be a source of Islamic antisemitism for decades to come.

that optimum nutrition protein powder they sell at gnc makes me ravenously hungry idk why wtf

>>19295896
I don't think that will be the case either. They will become liberalized too. They mostly vote for liberal parties already but they will be antisemitic because of Israel and their religion is antisemitic itself. Christianity was antisemitic until Napolean normalized Jews in Europe.

>>19295896
What's the actual % of muzzies in Europe? I think there will be a total collapse into either apartheid and deportation, or just murderous civil war with only the inbreeding Muslims having the backbone to use naked force.

If I were Turkey I'd stop agitating for fifth column activities with my Turkstink immigrants abroad just because Germans are currently cucked. They're going to remember that if they go full Hitler again.

>>19295887
>abject mistranslation that misses the point entirely.
He doesn't refer to solitude but to the absence of a political community. Animals lack the capacity for political engagement, and a god is already perfect and has no need for it.

>>19295807
>Why are they hard?
Have you read any of them?

>>19295940
she admitted the other day she has never read the greeks so it doesn't surprise me that she has no clue what she is talking about

>>19295931
Turkey actually did help Europe, they took in most of the Syrian refugees around 3.7 million. That's why Europe should appease Erdogan or he's going let all of them into Europe.

>>19295931
>if they go full Hitler again.
Germany is literally never going to be a military power again, unless the Turks take over. Why would anyone worry about them "going Hitler"?

>>19295836
makes me think of Runescape

>>19295940
How would you translate it?
It seems to imply what you just said.

>>19295947
I was instructing the OP which to start with. One really ought to START philosophy with pre Socratics.

>>19295941
Yes, my collection has a few. Just noticed the thread. Is that yours?

>>19295972
what the hell are you talking about? you weren't instructing anyone on anything, you showed up in the thread talking a bunch of shit about plato for seemingly no reason, and when challenged you said you never even read him and had no idea what the hell you were talking about

>>19296001
God she is the absolute worst type of poster, holy shit.

Shes talking about a different thread when anon was asking about what books are involved in starting with the Greeks, and she showed up and said "Plato and Aristotle aren't necessary", then she damage controlled by saying "uuh well technically they might not be the FIRST thing you read..." when everyone started shitting on her


in retrospect, I'm pretty sure the only reason she felt compelled to say "plato and Aristotle arent necessary" was just because she was still seething about being dunked on for not having read them in that thread. It all makes sense now!

i am so horribly depressed. i know this is nothing new here but if anyone has any advice of any sort, im all ears. i am really not doing well

>>19296001
Hmm. I was talking about a thread for where to start with the Greeks. I repeat a handy mnemonic
The five Hs
Hesiod, Homeric Hymns, Homer, Heraklitus and Herodotus.
Anon getting butthurt for the honor of Plato was misplaced sperging. You know how anonymous gets

>>19296052
you specifically said to skip plato

>>19296031
They aren’t necessary unless you want to trip down that cellar stairwell. Yeah, we covered that. Why are you still so mad?

>>19296057
AND Aristotle I should add

>>19295715
I feel like America has become so decadent that media has to churn up fake bullshit to be mad about. Not even a nationalist but this shit is ridiculous. I think what irritates me too here is that these people only ever recognize the arbitrariness of patriotism while never considering the long term consequences of disenchanting people of national myths. Which is to say nationalist myths may be bullshit, but I'm fearful of the larger societal consequences when people no longer believe state symbols mean anything.

>>19296057
Seems like something I said, but I don’t see it
>>/lit/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=Skip+plato

Anonymous thinks we should skip Plato

>>19295647
>us government deliberately wants to demoralize their people to control them
Sounds like some schizo bullshit. Every video you see that comes directly from the U.S state does look more like the China video. And lmao demoralizing U.S citizens is more likely to make them difficult to control.

My mental health is hanging by a thread, but I am still standing and I am still walking. I am just beat up, that's all

>>19296077
Take some antidepressants

>>19296061
kek why would i be mad, you just made yourself look so fucking stupid for no reason, no possible benefit to yourself, just to try and spite me lol. you're playing my game exactly how i want you to because you are so prideful and arrogant you literally just cant help yourself.

of course you wouldn't understand just how stupid it is to tell someone "starting with the greeks" to skip plato and aristotle, you dont read, you have no idea how they fit in to the western canon, you dont have the slightest idea about the topic of literature and starting with the greeks as a process of absorbing the western canon, and you just announced your ignorance to the world because you thought it would spite me lol

>>19295787
GTD is the only book I'd recommend.
However you need to actually implement it, do what he says: write down everything, abso-fucking-lutely everything in a big ass list. From buying new erasers or a door stop, all the way to 'get a doctorate in philosophy'. Then you order it into the categories he gives you. And then the ones in the most accessible categories, you do them.
From memory the categories are in order of "do it now!": can be done in under 2 minutes, next available opportunity, defer to someone-else, someday, oneday, 'archive/research', and the shit you throw out for good.
The other thing he says is have an 'inbox' which you regularly search through and file things in the categories he suggests.

>>19296071
imo plato is shit. aristotle is even worse shit.

>>19295664
Yeah exactly. I watched a really interesting doc the other day about the situation with Somalia. Basically Somalia is a failed state and as result it became the little bitch to a bunch more powerful states that could violate its waters. Really helps put things into perspective.

>>19296071
>heh I didnt use this exact arrangement of keywords, checkmate
What did you think you were accomplishing here?

>>19296080
zombie pills

>>19296095
Not really, benzodiazepines are zombie pills

>>19296094

>tfw no one to talk to

>>19296112
just join a discord

>>19295880
thank you, I'm here all week
>>19294781
idk man maybe if you drown out the fags with legitimate writing instead of these lame anecdotes that compel response we'd get more meaning out of the threat

>>19296131
He’s >>19294918

>>19296132
>maybe if you drown out the fags with legitimate writing instead of these lame anecdotes
You’re both right.

>>19294617
i have been doing ~10 key bumps of ketamine per day for the last 2 months. If I stop now I will probably get withdrawal symptoms. I know it is fucking my bladder (it hurts when I pee) and yet I don't want to stop.

>>19296139
can you post some of the edits for us for filter purposes?

>>19296146
Why are you agreeing with these complaints when you and the other tripfags are largely responsible for turning this general into blog posting threads and your personal social meetup? Im the one who posted >>19294792 and you responded to me without a shred of self awareness about just how badly you contributed to the problem I was referring to.
These threads were of course always blog tier sometimes but it wasn't remotely as bad until you started becoming a regular.

>>19296151
meant for
>>19294918
fuck you tripfag don't ever end up in my quotes again

>>19296178
You can delete posts, anon.

>>19296112
Pay a whore to listen to your opinions on literature

>>19295635
imagine unironically thinking capitalism is anything but internationalist
please, show me how the rockefellers or rothschilds don't actually want globalism
you are a puppet

>>19296197
Settle down. It’s just a political cartoon

>>19296211
your anarchist utopia will literally never happen

>>19294617
I will never overcome my mediocrity. I stew in it and fall back into the same easy habits. I know what makes me happy but instead take pleasure in hurting myself and in endless frustration, but mostly just in dulling my mind with static, empty pursuits. There's nothing in my life. I have no social life. My life revolves around work, shitty wagecuck job, and school: last year as english major, I have zero remaining resolve. My total isolation does not have a start date since I've always been deeply alone and estranged even in childhood I was ridiculous nothing more than a joke. Friendless I would tag along with my brothers friends for lunch home, always knowing I was not welcome but taking enjoyment from the knowledge of being unwelcome, being out of place, and forcibly inserting myself in such a way as to disrupt and make myself an object of scorn. Words cannot describe this particular pleasure, like a shiver running down the back, the knowledge that I am revolting and really ought to be ground into wormfood, but also the thrill of the negative attention . I loved and hated it and sometimes would go In my isolation my mood is very erratic, I find it difficult to pin down, there is only a constant drift heading nowhere .... unable to hold my resolve towards any one pursuit. I've also lost or never had any sense for social norms. Everything feels groundless. My overall worldview grows randomly, chaotically oscillating unable to construct any greater reason for anything and always secretly disbelieving in whatever I fix my mind towards. Once a devout Catholic growing up, who read all the Christian lit instead of socializing like a normal child, then briefly flirting with Marx, and now I don't know what I am anymore. I am nothing just a constellation torn apart without direction caught in a continual movement that resembles total stasis, paralysis, petrifaction. I want to be disciplined but all I manage to achieve are short bursts, that ascend quickly before I fall back and subsume myself into decay, into mindless videogames and social media, or if I'm feeling inspired into thoughtless depraved content just to show myself that I can do it, that I am great and free enough to do even the revolting, horrible things I put my mind to. Part of me wishes for some great tragic end that might validate my existence (not in "acutal"ity but just for the roleplay) but I could never really be able. I really like the idea for instance of someone cutting me open and pulling out my insides. Or of someone curb stomping me over and over. Not sure if sexual.

>>19296223
How about that liberal technocrat dystopian that takes us to literal extinction?

>>19294781
Where else are people supposed to whine about their shitty lives.

>>19295009
Going the way of the dodo based on what. As far as I can tell nation-states are still the main actors in the world. And as long as they're still here nationalism will remain.

>>19296278
Their home boards. You think /lit/izens post here?
Maybe a 1/3 of them

>>19296257
its certainly the most likely outcome right now. but guess what? circle jerking about anarchism is not going to stop it lmao, in fact its doing WORSE than nothing, people like you who circle jerk over your wonderful utopian ideals are like a ball and chain that holds back the people trying to make real tangible changes here and now to help the situation. you're nothing but dead weight. pure anti-progress. saying "gee whiz why dont we just end the state and all just all get along and change our lifestyles!" is not going to stop climate change, not going to stop anything. you are basically doing exactly what liberals want. why do you think they are liberal in the first place? why do you think they chose the liberal progressive attitude to be their avatar? why they encourage such retarded hippy dippy nonsense and wax poetic about the importance of democracy and freedom and tolerance and blah blah blah? its because they know its impotent. theres nothing you can do to stop them. you are not a threat, your ideas are not a threat.

>>19295009
>>19296292
Blue fascism and the next phase of colonialism is setting up now. This dodo is a zombie monster sized dodo and will destroy us all if we let it.

>>19296311
>and the next phase of colonialism is setting up now.
????
Outside of what China and France are doing in Africa, I don't see colonialism in the modern world.

>>19294617
When will this grind be over?
I drag myself forward day after day after day waiting for some sort of consolation, for some rest, as little as it may be. I try to convince myself that rest will come when I get to finally die, but is it? It seems so distant for some reason. So distant, in fact, that it is not enough to give me hope anymore: I don't know if I can keep it for much longer.
I forbid myself of blaming God for anything, I try to take every blow and be grateful for it:
>"thanks, God, for it happened to me and not no anyone else";
But they just keep coming: blow after blow after blow. No time to recover before the second one hits. And why is all this for? I stopped "learning" after a while, I don't think they're amounting to anything but pain anymore. I don't think I'm becoming a better person for taking them gratefully anymore.

I'm starting to feel resentful. And I don't want to. I don't want to utter these words who're eating me alive, wanting so desperately to come out of my chest. Feels like burning, writhing parasites inside of me. But I know if I let them out, they'll never be unlet: such sin of mine will be marked for eternity.

I don't even think I can write anything, really. Get to a point in writing, that is. Only swirl down and down in anguish, humiliating myself in such pressurizing, suffocating mental abyss, feels like a microwave in here.

What is it that I am supposed to find deep down, bros?

I'll let you know if I come out the other side.

>>19296292
as long as different peoples exist, nationalism will persist. It is internationalism which is the aberration.

>>19296326
Yes I agree. That is what I wrote

>>19296253
get a dog

>>19296317
It's just retarded re-defining of the term. For them colonialism means any degree of coercion between states or power imbalance.

>>19294617
I want to write something as profound as end of evangelion but I feel like I will never achieve such heights because people won't understand what I'm trying to convey. Not sure if It's my lack of skill or being able to find the proper words. Maybe I'm just not smart enough or too much of a midwit. I always worry about my writings being painfully misinterpreted even when I leave some questions open ended.

>>19296331
Though, I don't know about internationalism being an abberation.

>>19296320
>What is it that I am supposed to find deep down, bros?

A dog

>>19296331
I wanted to make that distinction because the modern nation-state isn't really where power lies anymore, and even if the nation-state was wiped out, nationalism would still be the default instinct for humanity

>>19296317
Military beef ups. Who’s the baddie? Terrarist? Cyberattacks?
The US contraction and the multipolar world is what’s bringing this crisis

>>19296326
internationalism is an aberration in the sense that modern medicine is an aberration, or workers rights in an aberration. A better word would be "progress" not an aberration.

>Ass long as dere ar people, dere will be muh lovey nation-state
Perversion of the mind. That’s the aberration.

>>19296357
>colonialism is when you have a military and geopolitical enemies
truly we can always rely on you for the best, hottest takes.

>>19296352
>because the modern nation-state isn't really where power lies anymore,
What's the evidence? From what I see nation-states still remain very powerful. & what do you think is the main power source then, international finance?
As for instinct, I don't think there's some innate nationalist instinct. There's a group instinct, a pro social impulse, with variance that gets expressed in different ways through political and social institutions.

>>19296360
you're under the delusion that nature is something to be "overcome", or that it is somehow desirable that it should.

>>19296365
When the US and Europe are expanding military might into the pacific, where their number one trading partner is, and they’re not asking for sea lane protection…
Have you ever heard of John Pilger? Yes, “neocolonialism” is entering another dangerous phase

>>19296357
Nothing you said shows colonialism. I'm confused what you're even trying to express. U.S's contraction means colonialism how?

>>19296367
>what do you think is the main power source then, international finance?
basically yes, look at how every western nation has responded to the coof, or how many nations follow america into their pointless wars. We live in a world of three superstrates, not independent nation-states.
Humans are tribal, we have a natural impulse for those similar to us. The nation is the 'evolved' form of the primitive tribe.

>>19296337
Have a couple cats, or my parents do. They help but it's not enough. I need a real purpose in my life.

>>19296373
Have you heard of the opium wars?
Neocolonialism is just that familiar liberal sprawl, but now that the crown of capitalism is passing to China, the old owner may pull some triggers on the weapons he has aimed at so many.
Hopefully not. But again, the boys are the state department and pentagon can decide to answer to no one, at any time.

Been crying all night because I'm a bitch. Waiting for my friend to wake up so I can call her.

>>19296393
1. China is not as weak as you seem to think.
2. You perhaps should consider China an imperial power in its own right. Plenty of non-Chinese Maoists do so.

>>19296393
I really really hope you stop posting one day

I wish to read and speak French, German, Italian, and Russian. Then I would be a true man of literature.

>>19296448
1. Didn’t mean to imply
2. I am an anarchist who sees capitalist behemoths, not a liberal concerned with IDpol.

>>19296479
I promise. You too, litli

>read
>mind gets fuzzy
>replenish mind by: coffee+calisthenics+headphone music until I'm drenched in sweat
>read
>gets tedious, starting to get tired
>end up walking around and mind starts fantasizing and drifting
>try to read again, gets tired
>replenish by sleep
Any other ways to freshen the mind to keep going, or is the true redpill to power through schizo-mode through the fuzz until zeal kicks in again. Increase the amount of freshened intervals where I can continue reading for hours and hours and hours.

>>19296546
Oh I forgot to mention, by "read" I mean study, and I'd alternate subjects to keep fresh. For example reading+notes, or reading lightly laying down, or solving math, or practicing languages writing, etc....

>>19295238
The amount of people who get prescribed adderall when they haven't even hit puberty used to shock me but now it just seems normal. There needs to be a nuremberg trial for psychiatrists. (On a /lit/ related note, you should read anatomy of an epidemic if you care about this kind of stuff)

>>19296160
This general turned to shit so fast. I mean every board on 4chan has some flavor of /r9k/ but those on /lit/ tend to find (or at least try to find) artistic and intellectual outlets as a healthy cope. These generals used to be a good balance. Even the /r9k/-tier posts were memorable. Funny that I'm now one of those oldfags complaining about how a general has turned to shit but I miss the 2018/2019 versions of wwoym so much bros. Mid/late-2020 is when it started falling apart and I could tolerate it... but now it's just sad. Still find some quality posts though.

>>19294617
It's always been dispiriting me that I'm on the losing side of this world, having lived my entire life up to this point in a third world shithole inhabiting an apartment in the middle of a crammed slim. Sure, the whole 'life is unfair' cliché sounds boring, and so does the counter argument of 'get over it,' yet it seems so disproportionate.

I get that nobody wants to cater to a misanthropic, feckless third worlder kvetching on and on as he expresses his world-view and anhedonia. The problems I repeat ad nauseam, my disdain for this world and my self reflection unto such through being given just about the right amount of awarensss to persistently self-flagellate, I am sick of it myself but I can't find my way out.

I'm grateful enough to have been given an opportunity to see how the world truly is through the current means of technology that are, well, available on every basis in every nook and cranny within the globe.

At the end of the day, I'll just stick to the weak notion I've finally come to terms with over the past years, that no matter how shit is, it is what it is, even if I'll die unhappily among my peers and family, there isn't much I can do really. I have been dealt a shit hand in life, I have tried several times to no avail, I have had to give up a lot of shit for basically nothing in return, I have had to give myself up for the sake of pleasing those I'm around, though aware of how dire the situation is they're justifiably silent and show appreciation for the trivial moments of pleasure, which seems to be where I'm headed towards if I live long enough.

I, rightfully so, do not wish to live, I just wish I had a better chance at experiencing life within a finer locus.

>>19296546
You just need to learn to push through that period of resistance. Resetting the clock by doing something else also breaks the momentum you're starting to build up. There is no real trick to this, it just takes effort.

>>19296682
I feel ya

below the marble moon my mind had strayed,
i wondered whether it some balustrade,
ablaze like flame yet ever cold it sways
as gibbous or as crescent in my gaze.

are there not many moons like this I see?
wrought by architects in eternity,
ornaments for deities to behold
illuminated azure and white gold?

the steps of cinnabar and jade are near,
I long to dwell beyond the lands of sere,
where millions of moons of millions of hues
variegated harmoniously fuse.

moons of red and blue and white will dissolve,
like rainbow it will revolve and convolve,
goodbye to the lone moon made of white chalk,
I shall look on moons of rainbow-peacock.

>>19296730
>i wondered whether it some balustrade,
this line makes no sense

>>19296743
The moon is the symbol of transience in many cultures however in Kabbalah and the works of grant and Bertiaux, it is yesod, the unmoving one and the domain of illusions and aesthetics, and there are not one moon but many and endless moons, thus a worked set of pillars which are truly just ornamental. This also works in the general hermetic conception of the path towards ascent through the planets being the moon and aesthetic vision.

>>19294724
no way me too
I thought i was alone

I'm on the most closest path of just being myself I have ever been and it feels right. What does that mean? Well obviously it implies realizing that the futility of being and the inevitable suffering in life are both meaningless themselves. It means that beyond the reality of universal and concrete conditions that form and restrict us, beyond the sense of powerlessness and personal shortcoming, is a dimension of the human mind which is not obligated to care, which is allowed to say 'no', which is free to make a difference - I don't know a good translation but in my language I want to call this 'differenzsetzende Handlung' as in acting to make a difference. And this difference is not necessarily, not even primarily, a difference in the world, it's not a responsibility that we realize through acting, no the difference that we make is one against the idleness, against the self torture, against the general notion of will power to go the easiest, most convenient, effortless way of existing. We make a difference in our mind, we fight our own tendency towards sluggishness, and in doing this we will transform the expectations and social norms as much as life conditions and so on into something that we can live with, into something that we not simply despise or desire, but something that is more of a foot note to our mental state of mind, because we only allow the difference that we made in while always being in 'Differenz zu uns selbst, in Differenz zu der Situation, In Differenz zu der Wirklichkeit'. It is this state of difference that we have to search and have to allow, it's not simply an alienation or dissociation, but what really is at stake here is to find this converging point of the dissociated mind with the surrounding reality, again and again, to master this tiny little road on the hills of mind/reality dissonance.

You're never getting published

>>19297002
>except for history and biography

Fittingly those are the best categories in literature.

>>19297002
Seethe

>>19297023
No. Philosophy and philosophy-adjacent nonfiction is the best category.
>LE HISTORY
Wow epic! XD

>>19294724
What about male ass

I regret not reading 2 hours every day from when I was 13. I calculate I would have read 1500 books by now. I would have already finished anything I want to read, most of the major masterpieces, and had a decent scope on the major nonfiction subjects I am interested in, and be borderline genius level knowledgeable despite still being young and at my peak creativity.

>>19297332
You'd also had likely forgotten 3/4th of it.

>>19297332
Gamer mindset

>>19297332
I do not remember the contents of a single book I read before 23

>>19297332
>Glorify me!
>For me the great are no match.
>Upon every achievement
>I stamp nihil
>I never want
>to read anything.
>Books?
>What are books!
- Vladimir Mayakovsky

I am unable to work.

>>19294625
>Im going to launch a preemptive strike and block her
Lmao
> I even posted passive aggressive stories shaming people for leaving me on read.
LMFAOOOO

>>19295537
>Europe was at its best when national pride was balanced with a sense of shared deeper cultural roots and destiny.
So like 1900-1945? Yeah nothing bad happened in that period.

>>19294625
You dont want a real relationship ,you want subservience.
No one genuinely like you.

Lacan's real-symbol-imaginary triad is just C.S. Pierce's Triad right? Jouissance is the impinging or introduction of the real into the symbolic order. Is that like when the prisoners in Plato's Cave crawl out and see the shadows, then the reflections, are they witnessing the 'Real'? Is anything gained from conflating these frameworks... ever? Deriving analogies between different discourses, does this, to relate back to the references I made - help us see the light of the sun any better? By finding isomorphisms between different ontological frameworks is it possible to better manipulate the representations in the mind and draw more illustrative conclusions about everyday life?
What to wear? What to eat? What to say to a friend I haven't messaged in a while? To buy this piece of music gear on sale now or to wait until I either lose interest, can't afford it, is sold out, or a similar one become available for a cheaper price, whichever comes first. Like are these mundane but important choices in anyway made more efficient through this searching for analogies?
Sometimes I wonder if my fixation on this abstract crap is because it's "easier" than the very complicated work of living in the mundane everyday world where decisions have actual impact. And that it's easier not just because it's inconsequential, that your 'wrong' isomorphisms or analogies never get tested, but because I lack the cognitive ability to actually operate in the everyday. An idiot savant.
And yet I have good people skills...

>>19295245
>you're probably a bad artist who draws furries on twitch.

That would be funny except this is the attitude of almost every person engaged in a creative practice that is given the alibi of art these days.

People who are 'creatives' do want to describe art. They do not want to talk about art. They want to 'make' art, everything else (I.e. the other 3/4 of their activity) is seen as a boring constraint.

You cannot have an intellectual conversation with an artist.

You cannot discuss ideas with artists.

All artists can do is talk about art they like, basically in the same way comic book nerds talk about whether Superman or the hulk is stronger, except with the veil of cultural respectability.

Artists want to make pretty things and have people talk about them and pay them so that they don't have to work. In some respects they are like children who refuse to grow up in a particular way, and when they are forced to explain or justify their infantile behaviour it is a matter of tedious post-hoc rationalisation for them.

With writers you can still have an edifying discussion, because most writers are forced to engage with ideas and culture, forced to have experiences to write about. With artists it is a complete and utter waste of time. They are narcissistic hucksters who will immediately bristle when you try to get them into a discussion that requires a coherent and thought-out position.

>>19297496
>the tripfag hasn't met an artist or a writer but is happy to share his fantasy about if he did
Well, it's not butters

>>19297547
You're a dumb fag

Essentially alienated all the people in my life by making them think I'm retarded/un/lit/. How to not cope/cope with self-isolation/loneliness/alienation/failure/disattachment from vanity/no human connection for a good while?

>>19297496
This is only true about artists post-WWII. Being able to perceive and interpret the cultural/spiritual zeitgeist of their era + understanding the philosophical currents relevant to it was an integral part of an artist's life. The decline in the artist's status happened in the second half of the XXth century for various reasons. But the artist used to bear an intellectual and political influence that was acknowledged by culture. As exemplified by the Russian and European avant-garde/futurist movements but also prior movements like art nouveau and symbolism. And many more. Art used to have a real rhetoric behind it.

>>19295390
POST YOUR ART

How do you guys deal with being mediocre?
I know it's not a great question to start up with, but i guess it's better than nothing.

bump

>>19297758
You shouldn't care about your value relative to that of other people outside of the circumstances in which such a notion might serve you. Anything else is an just internalization of some external authority and it actively dulls your capacity to fully live in the world.

>>19297758
>How do you guys deal with being mediocre?
By not being mediocre

>>19297496
>In some respects they are like children who refuse to grow up in a particular way, and when they are forced to explain or justify their infantile behaviour it is a matter of tedious post-hoc rationalisation for them.
If "growing up" means leaving behind your imagination, your capacity for aesthetic understanding and production for the simple reason that you can't quite explain it (which means: you can't express it inside of the constraints of the late capitalist productivist mentality) then God bless all the manchildren of the world.

>>19297790
Okay, so if i ignore the funny language, you're simply telling me to
>just bee myself
Meh. Seen many therapists in the past that told me the same piece of advice.

>[Anything else] actively dulls your capacity to fully live in the world
But i'm not even sure if someone like me deserves to live. I don't have anything to "give back", i only "consume". If i "gave back", who would care? Nobody, not even my family (have 0 friends i can count on btw).

>>19297803
thanks for that helpful contribution, Anon McGee.
You're oh so smart and i'm such an imbecile.

bump

Are you disappointed with your life?

>>19297814
Knowing is half the battle.

>>19297807
>you can't express it inside of the constraints of the late capitalist productivist mentality
You're going to need to explain what you mean by "late capitalist productivist mentality" before anyone takes you seriously, lol

>>19294733
>>19294733
i had caught her lying about where she was going to be and knew she was going to meet the guy at her Sorority House, but as i laid out my plan one of my friends was like "Are you a psycho? Because you're sounding like a psycho" and i realized i was being kind of a psycho.

There's a lot of times i look back now and things i said or the way i thought and it is very clear now i was a weirdo/creeper. Fortunately, i changed course and am now not one. So there is hope.

>>19297840
No. But I know if my 10 yr old self could see where he would end up he would be horrified and make different choices.

Are there any drawfags here? I'd ask /ic/ but non-blue boards are banned in my country.
I bought a really cheap drawing tablet because I wanted to get into digital art, I've been practicing for a while now but I still can't draw shit. I'm pretty decent at drawing on paper so it's not that I'm completely talentless. Is the quality and size of the tablet really that important? Should I just practice more or should I save up some money to get a proper tablet?

>>19297843
I'd rather he didn't

>>19297808
I'm not telling you to just beeeee yourself, you baboon (and my language isn't funny, it's precise), I'm telling you that worrying about where you stand on the ladder of human accomplishment and potential IN ITSELF is absolutely pointless (because what purpose does it serve? Absolutely nothing). I say "in itself" because there some cases where your accomplishments and potential have some concrete consequences, and these are the only times you should worry about it.
>But i'm not even sure if someone like me deserves to live.
Nobody "deserves" or "doesn't deserve" to live. You either choose to live or you don't. At the end of the day all life is nothing but force, a will that imposes itself on the chaos that is the world. If the notion of being a parasite troubles you, then stop being a parasite. It's really not that hard, it's not like the world lacks problems that need to be solved or people that need to be helped. How was that saying? Perfect is the enemy of good? Go join a charity or something.

>I'm sad
>Bro YOU need to UNDERSTAND the world is just cosmic force on force and you just like will your existence to want to live and dominate other force and impose ORDER on CHAOS

This shit needs to end sooner or later. An entire generation of young men unwilling to sit with their feelings without constructing a pop psychological cosmology to deal with it.Tidy your asshole already. Go be a stoic and lift weights in the gym and convince yourself you're engaged in self-cultivation and not a thinly veiled retreat from society. People do not do metaphysics to deal with the fact their parents did not introduce enough structure into their lives, that's fucking weird and gay

I am essentially finished with my explorations of the world. Philosophically I have nothing to learn. Psychologically I have been in intensive therapy for many years and am "whole" in a sense. Monetarily I am secured and emotionally I am satisfied. All that remains are refinements to my health and nurturing of relationships. My life is set now, in cruise control. For this reason I have lost interest in reading and will be shifting my focus to huge titty Tiktok dancers

>>19297893
Lifting weights and stoicism are nothing more than run-of-the-mill coping mechanisms.
>>19297758
I have no idea, Anon, i'm in the same position than you.

>>19297893
Yes, he does inded need to understand that the will to live his life is not gonna come from an outside source, from an authority or a cosmic force or whatever but can only come from his own volition. And please leave my asshole out of this, thank you.

>>19297840
Yes and no. I am stupidly lucky just to have survived this long. Still, I strive for more.

My friend says I suck at taking their photos.

>>19297407
>nothing bad happened in that period.
that's not true, the bad guys (allies) won

read pat buchanan "unnecessary war"

Whether the old world was really as enchanted and meaningful as it seems to have been from this perspective

>>19297983
What do you mean by "the old world"? Also it wasn't. Always read what contemporaries have to say about the given period of time they are living in. People are generally always waging ideological battles and seething about the current state of affairs.

>>19297496
Are you that tripfag from early lit?

>>19297853
Draw more, a lot more. I use my phone to draw and I think my art is decent enough. A lot of people get surprised when I tell them I use for phone for art.

Women are cringe and not funny.

>>19295635
am I the rich guy?

>>19295840
Based eugenics butters.

>>19298058
The pre-modern world. I’ve read a lot and I do get the sense there’s something more magical and meaningful about it. For me, it’s rather not a question if a Parzifal depicted reality but whether a Parzifal could even be written today. Whatever soil that flower grows out of has changed fundamentally.

>>19298290
Pre-modern world, what do you mean "pre-modern"? By "modern" you mean the industrial age or something? Or do you mean "modern" as in the post-medieval era (c. 1500)? When you say "pre-modern" you are talking about the past up to what period in time exactly, do you mean the Middle Ages? Antiquity? The stone age? These are all very different periods, you know. They have nothing in common. Elaborate on your semantics.
Also, what pre-modern "world"? You mean Western Europe? Or you mean literally everywhere in the world? Asia? Africa? What are you talking about?

>>19298290
>Parzifal
Capeshit

Damn... He didn't have to do me like that

There is a sneaky little double standard that modern leftists do!
They categorize modern American Republican party, free market capitalism, neoconservatism, neoliberalism, etc., as "right wing" or even "far right". But when you say that these things have nothing to do with older traditional right wing like monarchy, they just sneer at you and say "Ummm, words change over time, chud. Monarchy is not relevant anymore."
But when you categorize modern SJW, woke, progressivism, social liberalism, feminism, LGBT, BLM, diversity, political correctness, as "left wing" or "far left" they say "Ummm sweety, that has nothing to do with Marxism or collective ownership of the means of production, there is nothing left wing about it, chud."
Words change, they say, but only when it is convenient for the slimy left wing slug!!

>>19298249
Women really don't realize that there are two types of men, simps and normal, that only simps are impressed by this while normal men are disgusted by women being whores at a level even deeper and more primal than they're disgusted by feces, and that "impressing" a simp means nothing because all a simp sees you as is a piece of meat and he's permanently edging until the day he can finally fuck or rape you.

If every woman got to see male sexuality and lust for them from the inside for exactly 1 minute, say the day they turned 20, the entire culture of planet Earth would change. Simps would die out and we would enter a new golden age.

Instead I figure we're going to be drowning in whores and simps forever.

>>19298394
t. Asperger's syndrome sufferer

>>19298393
There is no "right" and "left" actually

>>19298362
You know exactly what is meant by “pre-modern”.

>>19298521
No the fuck I don’t. Speak in clear terms.

Anons think I have a crystal ball to read their minds

>>19298398
Simp or simp-addled roastie. Reply with something other than have sex for once in your tenure on this site.

>>19298553
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/premodern
How much clearer can it be? Stop the pedantic gotcha games.

>>19298569
Uh have sex

>>19298576
So everything everywhere before “the modern era”?

I'm enjoying the books I read, the things I write, and the games I play. Life is good.

I've been coughing for almost 6 weeks I think. I was sick at first, then I got well for a couple of days, then the cough came back and has stayed. it isn't very heavy, but it is definitely more than nothing. now I have a pain in what I think is a tonsil. Not a bad one. Has been growing for a while. I thought it was a wisdom tooth, I have one left that could likely make trouble, but I felt around with my tounge now and it's all the way back there. The cough is making my voice very nice. I have a decent singing voice in a semi-high register but I'm getting this warmth and depth in my lower register. I could be lethal.

What's the point when every sort of thing has been done before by someone
(I'm not talking about writing)

How old are these “writers”?

Are there any careers one can do if you can't perform in college academically and are to physically weak to perform in a trade? I really don't like physical labor or working with my hands and my grades are C's and D's right now in college.

>>19297002
i'm surprised the number is that high at all. i had the impression normies read 1-2 books a year at best.

Just got a new job, starting it tomorrow. The band I'm in is preparing to release our first ep, and I've gotten back into writing out story ideas while working on the world building of a novel I plan on writing. Life isn't where I thought it would be at this point in my life, but I am thankful to have the blessings I have been given. Cheer up anon's, life isn't
always easy but nothing can compare to it. God bless you all and best of luck out there.

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>A classic understanding of the weird story might be summarized as follows: At first nothing at all happens. The characters are bathed in banal and beatific happiness, adequately symbolized by the family life of an insurance agent in an American suburb. The kids play baseball, the woman plays piano a little,etc. All is well.
>Then, gradually, almost insignificant incidents accumulate, dangerously reinforcing one another. Cracks appear in the glossy varnish of the ordinary, leaving the field wide open for troublesome hypotheses. Inexorably, the forces of evil enter the setting.
David Lunch lol

now that i'm thinking about it, i realize i never had likeminded friends.
i assume it's the case for most people.
sad.

>>19298283
I’m not supportive of the elitist tradition of brainwashing the masses into beasts of burden

>>19299027
Right that was always the job of womans. How dare they.

>>19298736
Long covid?
Sounds like you’re saying you’re getting a wisdom tooth in you tonsils

>>19299033
In a family/community, we all do a chore or two for the betterment of all. Elitists steal people and make them do all their work.

I want to move to Europe

>>19299045
Communities excommunicate, sometimes just because the lagg understanding. I am so full of and hateful about communities that i would appreciate it if elon uses skyline to burn this world down.

>>19296346
Was EoE really that profound? Step back and look at it clearly.

>>19294617
I had a dream this Patton Oswalt character frol the Venture Bros had his own show where he would comically beat up his own sidekicks. Like they would be fighting crime and he would attack his own sidekick accidentally instead of the bad guy. It was actually kind of funny.

I decided to start talking about my dreams because they are a good look into my subconscious and there is no topic more interesting to all of you than me. Even Cliff thinks that. That is why he reads everyday, cause I am so interesting. Not like he has anything better to do anyway.

My job makes me want to kill myself. The worst part? I don’t see any alternative which wouldn’t, save for one and I seem unable to do what’s necessary for it.

>>19299089
I do have night terrors most nights. I was dead serious about that.

>>19299094
y<ou will get ova it i had them with 6

>>19294617
I'm the lowest point I've ever been.
I'm thinking about quitting everything. Dropping out of college. Leaving the internet. Leaving my house. Either that or killing myself.
I hate everything I am right now.

>>19299073
>Sometime a rat bastard be shunned for rape or something
>Therefore all life should be wiped from existence.

>>19299121
Actually for trying to teach some guys a lesson for making a girl cry. Cause no one else does it. Just go back, to your man on a stick and find out where it leads you.

>was 10am
>went to apartment gym downstairs, did 30 min
>come back, get 5 min shower
>now 11:48
what the fuck?

Im almost 30. No dreams, no idea what i'd be good at, no savings, no personality, no decent job, no nothing. Even coping stopped working.

been getting over an ex over a couple of weeks. it's hard to explain but things ended long ago and I haven't processed it until now. I have fantasized a lot about what I'd say to her if I met her. a LOT. For a long time I felt it was really going nowhere, it just went on and on, thought about her constantly (constantly) for weeks. Worried a lot that I would be hung up forever. Now, on something like week six, what I really want to say to her has boiled down to a few sentences, and I think about her maybe 15 minutes a day or so. Maybe an hour, I haven't kept count, but it's down a lot. 3 weeks ago "what I wanted to say to her" was a long, long speech. It seems my brain has actually been doing something these weeks. Phenomenal fucking work, a lot of feelings processed, memories revisited, re-evaluated. Many memories still very fond, but not overbearing. I think I could maybe even meet her and act normal.

>>19299178
What are you even referring to?

>>19299183
You can always kill yourself so it can't get that bad!

>>19299183
It’s a lot more common than you think. I’ve managed “okay” I guess. I’m 28 years old. I have a job (I despise it) and very meager savings, but I live with my parent and otherwise, I’m still pretty much lost. As I look around, many others approximately my age are in a similar, if not worse, situation. What are we racing to anyway?

>>19299240
a family a house and kids

>>19299229
Sorry but years of internet use immunized me against people who pretend to not understand.
they only reason i reply to you is because i am angry that i gave people like you eternally long explanations in the past if they ask me like this.

horse shit

>>19294617
Roommates invited some friends over.
I'm alone in my room, and I haven't eaten.
I'm always alone, I've been for like 7 years now.
I'm so miserable, I'm so tired of life.

God just take me away already, this is no way to live.

Why do I have to be like this

>>19299183
So start.

>>19299264
This is unreasonable. There are reasons for banishments. If a community or family unit notices a cruel streak in boy, a temporary timeout in the woods is pretty reasonable. Would you rather be sat in a corner? A proto-prison? That’s terrible. But again, I have no idea what you’re talking about. The context is missing here. Get over it

Recently read Against Leviathan, and in it is a brief piece of Native American tradition where children are set loose into the wilderness. This after finding their spirit animal. The hypothetical boy decides to spend more time to himself going on little adventures , where his spirit animal takes him. He eventually returns and gets a wife. A little distant, but welcomed back nonetheless.

migrate
>>19299299
>>19299299
>>19299299

>>19299244
But if that’s your only concern, it’s not like you can’t have those things after the 30. Personally, I’m more concerned with things along the lines of no dreams, no idea what I’m good at, etc. than that.

>>19299296
Oh i got ova it. I understand now that all power drives from physique and complexity.

>>19299305
>migrate
>Don’t bump this thread anymore

>>19299364
What's your problem? I am new from /int/ here. That's how we do stuff there. Visit once in a while.

>>19299374
Ó litli, hverjum er hægt að treysta?

>>19299364
stop seething that no one wants to bump your thread.
the WWOYM thread war is a bloody battle and i will support anyone trying to take down the animeposter, regardless of how cutthroat their tactics may be
>>19299374
good job

>>19299386
You’re what’s wrong with these General.

>>19299386
I was more giggling about it.
Why fight someone who’s against the animé creep too? Stop seething

>>19299386
what is this war against anime? also what is the bump limit in /lit/ isnt it 310?

>>19299399
they dont give anyone else a turn at making the thread and many of us have requested that they should choose different images to change up the vibe. they do not listen.
its 310 but this isnt the first time someone makes it early. as i said, the WWOYM thread war is a bloody one.
ive seen up to 4 different ones get made because they are always trying beat each other once the bump limit gets hit

>>19299240
Im not
>>19299244
I guess i want meaning in my life, some sense of direction. so far my life looks completely random.

>>19299399
>what is this war against anime?
Some schizo thinks there's some cabal out to get him. He had a public meltdown in one of these threads. Check the archives.

>>19299399
>also what is the bump limit in /lit/ isnt it 310?
Yeah. People are anal about the bump limit because people kept on making them way too early like in the 270's or 280's

>>19299424
Oh okay cool

>>19299399
>what is this war against anime?
>One anon makes an a thread with an anime pic,
>Anti-animefag gets flustered
>that same anon does it again
>anti-animefag gets furious
>a different anon makes a thread with a webm with a Vtuber
>Anti-animefag has a psychotic breakdown makes a different thread one with the czar and starts shilling.
>his thread gets deleted and he starts having a breakdown insisting there’s a cabal of anons out to get him and starts talking about girly cocks.
And thus, the war war against anime was started. Funny thing is, I think there was only 4 anime ops before that one anti-anime had his psychotic breakdown

Maybe I’m just spoiled?

>>19299428
I feel the same way and I want the same thing. There’s no narrative there, is how I think. I don’t have an answer though. I’m just saying a lot of us are in this state.

>>19299481
i miss when the images were so different every time that you could tell it was never the same anon.
thats how it should be. everybody gets a turn

>>19299374
Awful board. /lit/ is the only tolerable board on the site and I’m still ashamed that I come here.

>>19299494
/tv/ and /ck/ are amazing for shitposting and always have me laughing. i come to /lit/ for real talk

>>19299504
>i come to /lit/ for real talk
Then you must be disappointed.

>>19299491
Yeah, well it was ruin by the anti-anime anon who kept making earlier and earlier threads.

>>19299515
most of the time, but every once in a while you can have a decent convo
>>19299516
i would honestly rather that then anons playing fair. i really dont give a shit about the bump limit, you can always continue your discussions in the new thread.

>>19299494
>>19299494
umm.. dare i say reddit?

>>19299494
Lit is decoupled from reality and could use a portion of x. Not because of the paranormal stuff but because sinister stuff.

>>19299481
Don’t forget that he kept calling different anons the same due to time stamps or some bullshit. Dude was a legit schizophrenic

Boomers have a permanent victim identity. They are sort of like blacks, Jews, and Micks in that regard. They have everything they need but due to media addiction they rile themselves up into a panic about everything and cannot be happy and content with what they have anymore.

>>19299541
how can i find this thread?

>>19299554
In the archives.

>>19299488
I guess you're right but still it seems like other people manage to find a crumbles of meaning in hobbies, reading, philosophy, job or family. Maybe im the one who doesnt know something essential that everyone else does.

>>19299566
Actually found it.

>>/lit/thread/S17826679

>>19299600
yea i ended up finding it too. pretty underwhelming desu

move to the new thread already ffs

>>19299607
I think there's more to it, like the anon said, there was four threads with anime girls on it with the buildup.

>>19299580
Would you rather be satisfied by crumbles?

>>19299611
YER NOT THE BOSS OF US!

>>19294625
>preemptive strike and block her
It's not preemptive if she's already soft blocking you. And by soft, I'm referring to your cock.