/lit/ - Literature

I am going through some shit rn, is the Bible going to help me ?

>>19269484
>control systems
>dfws oblivion stories
pic related

>>19269484
>marketing
kill yourself, seriously.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0

>>19269506
wrong. read Mister Squishy from this book >>19269506

>>19269484
>Philosophy
>Bone

>>19269506
oops - wrong, read Mister Squishy from THIS book >>19269504

>uni dropout
>Mosses from an old manse

>>19269511
JUST KILL YOURSELF

>>19269506
also comedians are braindead and absolutely everything they say is whorishly for the sole purpose of giving an audience any excuse to laugh. in fact, modern marketing is more honest than any comedian, because they won't even admit that they have no values other than laughs

>>19269521
kill yourself for taking comedians seriously cringelord. my grandma watching QVC is better off than you are intellectually

>>19269484
English
The Pickwick papers

>bachelor's in computer science
>Infinite jest

>>19269523
thats the point of the video. marketing people are uncapable of think something with no dollar sign in it. you are the joke buddy.
>>19269526
i agree with him. its just a little bit better world if marketing/propaganda people just don´t exist.

>>19269536
>thats the point of the video. marketing people are uncapable of think something with no dollar sign in it. you are the joke buddy.
Exactly, and I'm telling you that everything you levvy against marketing ironically applies to you buying into comedians. You are a hypocrite and no matter what you say I'm laughing at you, you are forever circumscribed by a joke that you will never get because you're too bought into Bill Hicks's marketing to understand it

>>19269542
i dont give a fuck about bill hicks, he say billions of dumb shit, he is in point with this. if you kill yourself you literally make the world a better place. and you probably know it.

>>19269544
>he is in point with this. if you kill yourself you literally make the world a better place. and you probably know it.
he cannot "be in any point" because nothing he says can be of worth because he is a whore for laughs. Again, read Mister Squishy for more proof that you're wrong and then hang yourself like DFW did

>>19269548
i read it long ago, i dont remember it very well. but didnt change my view in marketing as an evil propaganda machine. what are you gonna tell me?, that propaganda is inevitable or some shit like that?. just kill yourself, seriously. cleanse your soul.

>>19269484
>your degree
Social and cultural Anthropology
>your favorite book
Watership Down, Wuthering Heights or Daniel Deronda

but 60% of what I read is history

>>19269552
i am telling you that you are cringe as fuck for taking comedians seriously while complaining about marketing.
>i read it long ago, i dont remember it very well. but didnt change my view in marketing as an evil propaganda machine.
it's not supposed to change your mind about the "evil propaganda machine", that is, you clearly never read it retard. it is clear now that you are mentally ill and an ESL

>>19269555
>Watership Down, Wuthering Heights or Daniel Deronda
I want to be your friend, anon.

>>19269559
it was about a research with various people in a room to some kind of cake industry derivative. i dont remember too much more.
anyway, you are just coping, propagandists are the worst of humanity almost by definition. sometimes people make comedy to say pretty simple and true things. sometimes something is cringe but true, this is one of those cases.

>>19269573
>it was about a research with various people in a room to some kind of cake industry derivative. i dont remember too much more.
Why are you telling me this? I know you 'don't remember much more' already

>this propagandist told me that propaganda was bad and omg he's so right
pic related

>>19269588
what is your point?, that propaganda is right in the end?.

>>19269607
that ever thinking you've escaped from propaganda (information with an agenda) is a more insidious and delusional form of propaganda, and that comedians are the philosopher kings of this sort of propaganda

>>19269568
we can be friends bro :)

OP here. I don't give a fuck what you think. I like my job and i will make a future business project by using all of my knowledge i aquired. Click more.

>Molecular Genetics
>Summa Technologiae
Why, yes, I do find joy and wonder in materialism, how did you know?

>>19269614
information with an agenda is everything, every opinion is information biased by a personal view.
anyway, there is a difference between one guy like you trying to say every information by someone is propaganda and actual propaganda/marketing workers who are being paid, literally, specifically to manipulate better the people. thats the people who i think should kill themselves.
in a way, you are being disingenuous here, although i know you are not gonna see it. your notion of propaganda was making by a propagandist itself and so on and so on. this is paralell with the view of marketing in the bill hicks video, every marketing seller see the joke of bill as a propaganda move. and this is just because you dont want to admit marketing career is completely shit.

>>19269484
>low intelligence degree
>christian
Like pottery

>>19269484
Asccoaites degree in cad
Stephen crane the blue hotel

>>19269626
>i like my job of manipulate people
>also the bible is my favourite book
>fraternity and love are nice but we live in a "real world" you know?

>>19269646
Democratic/Liberal countries can't exist without Propaganda. It's impossible.
>>19269655
I never stated my goal on why and what project i want to create. Maybe i want to do something good?

>>19269484
>Biology
>The Pale King or Inherent Vice

Marketing, along with accounting, advertising, and business, are the gayest degrees there are.

>your degree
English BA
>your favourite book
The Heart is a Lonely Hunter

Anyone with a business degree here is not welcome btw

>>19269659
what exactly can exist without propaganda?.

>>19269506
Thats awfully misogynistic

On a related note, why does marketing seem to be dominated by women?

>>19269669
My penis.

>>19269680
In most fields that seem to be dominated by women they are not really so - they are dominated by men who just prefer to keep to themselves and away from the women, and your perception means that they deem you as useless as women so you're kept out of their circle.

>>19269646
>anyway, there is a difference between one guy like you trying to say every information by someone is propaganda and actual propaganda/marketing workers who are being paid, literally, specifically to manipulate better the people. thats the people who i think should kill themselves.
>guy like you
holy fuck you still don't get it. how delusional are you? you think he's not getting paid to whore himself out for laughs? you think everything he's saying isn't literal propaganda by your definition? The fact that you even said any of this without looking in a mirror is beyond me
>in a way, you are being disingenuous here, although i know you are not gonna see it. your notion of propaganda was making by a propagandist itself and so on and so on. this is paralell with the view of marketing in the bill hicks video, every marketing seller see the joke of bill as a propaganda move. and this is just because you dont want to admit marketing career is completely shit.
The absolute irony. No, you just don't want to admit you are bought more into propaganda than anybody else on this planet could ever be because you somehow aren't even aware of it

>>19269675
actually curious to read a completely deranged personal view of misoginy in that video. explain please.

>>19269659
>I never stated my goal on why and what project i want to create.
>Maybe i want to do something good?
You also need to read Mister Squishy ASAP.

>>19269693
you are making propaganda now with this post?. im not saying bill hicks is not a propagandist in a way. you are confusing the concept with the voice of the concept. im not realize "marketing is bullshit" because bill hicks. im just put the video because is somewhat succint and funny about why marketing is shit. you are missing the point. if i put in the first post "kill yourself marketing shitters", and i downloaded a jacques ellul image in it you are finally nice?.

>>19269662
>Marketing, along with accounting, advertising, and business, are the gayest degrees there are.
you are studying biology. maybe the only STEM subject that is worth less than any humanities degree.

>>19269688
Wrong. Media and marketing is dominated by women because 1. It's a comfy and easy job 2. Women consoom more than men generally. Also marketing needs to be pozzed otherwise the company gets a bad rep, and women are more pozzed than men are obviously

>>19269701
You also need to read Fridman ASAP.

>>19269709
>you are making propaganda now with this post?
holy shit! he finally understands! well done! yes, it's all propaganda and there's literally no escape (b-but Bill Hicks told me there were people that didn't have an agenda to make money!). stop pretending like you are above it you delusional ape

>there is a difference between one guy like you trying to say every information by someone is propaganda and actual propaganda/marketing workers who are being paid, literally, specifically to manipulate better the people
Again, there is no difference, Bill Hicks IS BEING PAID, LITERALLY, TO MANIPULATE YOU. And yet you don't see the difference and buy this bullshit completely

>you are confusing the concept with the voice of the concept.
and you are not seeing the world around you. it is literally ALL propaganda, everyone has a bias and everyone is trying to make money, and you are living in a fucking fantasyland pretending like this man on stage is any different from anything else

>if i put in the first post "kill yourself marketing shitters", and i downloaded a jacques ellul image in it you are finally nice?.
no because nowhere in the technological society does ellul tell marketing shitters to go kill themselves

>>19269717
Did you just imply that women surpass men in their capacity to pursue laziness and pozz?

>>19269719
Why? Do you seriously believe you are going do anything good with that degree? The entire thesis of that DFW story is that everybody goes into marketing thinking they're gonna do good in some way, or at least try to at some point, but there is no changing anything

>>19269484
Film
Man and His Symbols

>>19269746
>Why? Do you seriously believe you are going do anything good with that degree?
Yes i do. I do because i will create my own company and i will not work for already existing corporation. You dumb fuck.

>>19269754
>Yes i do. I do because i will create my own company and i will not work for already existing corporation. You dumb fuck.
I can't believe I spent this entire thread defending you from this idiot >>19269709
because I felt bad he was telling you to kys and you turn out to be even dumber than he is. You are literally just going to end up like Schmidt at 33 years old looking at yourself in the mirror calling yourself Mister Squishy

>>19269523
Google Doug Stanhope.

>>19269762
Lol i don't give a fuck. I never asked you. Life isn't like in your shitty books that you jerk off. Go read Fisher and scream while listening to Have a nice life or whatever.

>>19269771
Holy fuck, is everyone in this thread an ESL? Yes I will have a nice life and every once in awhile I'll laugh imagining you trying to make the world a better place through honest marketing

>>19269738
i understand your point since your first post. your notion of propaganda is itself propaganda, that is what im trying to say to you. your post is propaganda and my post is propaganda. that is the cynical ilussion where you live. there is something that you can´t sell or reproduce. thats my point in the end.

>>19269778
Its a band for fags like you go and listen to it. And i didnt said anything on how and what i really want to do.

>>19269779
>i understand your point since your first post. your notion of propaganda is itself propaganda, that is what im trying to say to you. your post is propaganda and my post is propaganda. that is the cynical ilussion where you live. there is something that you can´t sell or reproduce. thats my point in the end.
This was my point from the first post you dumb fucking retard.

If you had believed a word you just said you wouldn't have already admitted that you didn't think Bill Hicks was trying to manipulate you to make money.
>there is a difference between one guy like you trying to say every information by someone is propaganda and actual propaganda/marketing workers who are being paid, literally, specifically to manipulate better the people
Again, you're wrong. And no amount of moving the goalpost and pretending like you're me is going to change this

>>19269509
>Bone
Oh shit, hell yeah!

>>19269786
>And i didnt said anything on how and what i really want to do.
>Maybe i want to do something good?
>I do because i will create my own company and i will not work for already existing corporation.
I know you're assmad right now but just read Mister Squishy when you get the chance. You are not going to do good with marketing.

>>19269797
i think bill hicks is a comedian and he become famous and succesful with it. so you think he is more propagandist than you with your posts. but im not. also, i think what he is trying to say in that excerpt is precisely that there is something that you can´t sell or reproduce. you are the one who don´t get it because you think he is not pure enough to say something like that.
you are a completely retard who think is better than everyone and probably think my point was "hur durrr haha, hicks is cool and im cool and i owned fucking marketing shitters haha, im the greatest troll of internet" or some dumb shit like that.

>>19269714
>working in medicine or in an environmental fashion
>is le bad
What ever helps you sleep at night I guess.

>>19269807
Then ill do bad with Marketing and accelerate okay?

>>19269820
>you are the one who don´t get it because you think he is not pure enough to say something like that.
this is all i really need to hear. the fact that this is your source of purity, a guy literally making money marketing himself as a source of purity and you're STILL buying it
>you are a completely retard who think is better than everyone and probably think my point was "hur durrr haha, hicks is cool and im cool and i owned fucking marketing shitters haha, im the greatest troll of internet" or some dumb shit like that.
no i think you don't even know what your own point is, i think you just make shit up as you go, i think your life cannot be going all that well (see >>19269506), and you are clearly ESL and so i would be actually astonished if you really had ever read DFW or Ellul as you claimed you did

>>19269822
Yes im wrong i take it back im sorry

>>19269840
>Not him. But doing good as a measure of career choice is pretty childish,
Yes that is exactly MY point, why are you telling me this and not the guy that literally posted
>Maybe i want to do something good?
And why else do you think I'm telling him to read Mister Squishy?

>>19269853
Ill do evil. Ill do terrible things with marketing and all of my knowledge i acquired. Ill do terrible terrible things. Marketing is evil.

>>19269833
look, you were whiteknighting one guy and now you are trapped in your own shit. you were not reading me with an open mind so i dont care. you still insist that bill hicks is shit so his point is shit, a basic dirty (and genuinely propagandist ) tactic. i dont know how to say to you that i dont care a bit about bill hicks. you are now saying to the marketing student that marketing is basically shit, my entire point since my first post. just kill yourself.

>>19269859
Idk what is wrong with this fucking guy.

>>19269859
>you still insist that bill hicks is shit so his point is shit, a basic dirty (and genuinely propagandist ) tactic.
not what i said at all, again you are ESL and can't read
>i dont know how to say to you that i dont care a bit about bill hicks.
yes you don't care about a guy you admitted you thought was "like you"
>you are now saying to the marketing student that marketing is basically shit, my entire point since my first post. just kill yourself.
no i'm saying that he isn't going to DO GOOD, which is something I always agreed with (which is why I fucking told you AND him to read Mister Squishy) and i'm telling you that if marketers should kill themselves then you should also.

>>19269868
>be op
>says the bible got you through 'hard times'
>one of the first comments is some total fucking retard telling you to kill yourself for braindead reasons
>defend you
>you turn out to be even more delusional than he was
yes, i don't know why i ever bothered either

Marketing is for faggots and op has undoubtedly proved it ITT. You deserve to be hanged OP.

this thread is comedy GOLD

Marketing is good because it tempts retards to buy useless shit, driving up the economy and maintaining a healthy portion of paycheck living retards who are then forced take the jobs that no one wants

>>19269895
>marketing is good because it exploits people
Ermmm

>>19269901
not that anon but define exploit

>>19269876
Because you are as retarded as we are

>>19269905
Not that anon but washing everyone's brains in propaganda via media and cultural dissemination, property taxes to prevent "checking out" from society, corporate power holders & lobbyist owned politicians coming up with schemes to consolidate their power, via wealth, surveillance, and otherwise, and remain unchallenged by the average prole.

>>19269913
as long as we all admit it then sure, this is truly an example of honest marketing

>>19269905
Tricking dumb people into parting with their money in exchange for shit they didn't need. The lower classes should be ruled benevolently, patriarchally, not manipulated into doing things that are bad for them. That's evil and that's the purpose of marketing. If you don't intuitively grasp this still you really, unironically truthfully deserve to be taken off this earth (killed).

>>19269924
>as we
You see. Im autistic and i have autistic goal. I read bible and have a degree in Marketing which is just weird at the start. That other guy is retarded and doesn't understands what the fuck propaganda is, what agenda is, what ideology is. And you? You are just a narcissistic retard who wants to be right in all arguments, who want to take action just simply for the sake of it. You antogonise yourself with everyone. Now we are talking about you. There is no "we". Go and fuck yourself.

>>19269931
Everyone understands what propaganda and marketing is you fucking autistic piece of shit, they understand it and don't like it. And they don't like you. You're an unlikable selfish waste of life. Kill yourself immediately.

>>19269484
>Classics and Linguistics
>The Iliad

>>19269938
>Everyone understands what propaganda and marketing is you
You literally had an embarassing argument about that right here in this thread. And based on what i read you don't understand what you are talking about. And yes i will use my knowledge in marketing to achieve my goals.

>>19269923
>lobbyist owned politicians coming up with schemes to consolidate their power, via wealth, surveillance, and otherwise, and remain unchallenged by the average prole.
The average prole voted these politicians into power willfully. There's very little evidence that lobbying does anything. Democracy is working perfectly as intended. But it sounds like we are almost kind of in agreement here
>property taxes to prevent "checking out" from society
i dont personally believe property tax is a conspiracy, it's a state tax (not a federal thing if ur a mutt) and basically checks all the boxes for an efficient tax
>washing everyone's brains in propaganda via media and cultural dissemination
and the alternative is? can you paint me a reality where this doesn't happen? if everybody is always being exploited then good has little to do with it. that anon's argument was simply that getting idiots to buy more products is actually good for the economy in a variety of ways

>washing everyone's brains in propaganda via media and cultural dissemination

>>19269946
I'm a different person. There are multiple people itt telling you what a pile of garbage you are.

>>19269931
>There is no "we". Go and fuck yourself.
You are the one that said "we" first anon.
>who want to take action just simply for the sake of it
i took action because i felt bad for you but again you seem to have an equally toxic (or downright delusioned) soul, which is my bad for thinking otherwise

>>19269950
>>19269938
i honestly think we would all make great friends

Kek what a thread. I always knew that telling that you work in marketing is instant gold mine on /lit/.

>>19269947
>The average prole voted these politicians into power willfully.
Yeah, because they've been exposed to nationalist propaganda their whole life. At least in the USA, they get convinced that the "other party" is responsible for everything bad in the world when really politicans from both sides of the aisle are having dungeon orgy's, or orgy dungeon and dragon meets, in their spare time.
>here's very little evidence that lobbying does anything. Democracy is working perfectly as intended.
False as fuck.
Monsanto got rBGH approved in the USA only, wouldn't you know, when a former director of theirs joins the FDA in an administrative position.
This is all despite the fact it's banned literally everywhere else, is proven to raise blood incidence levels of the protein IGF-1, and just a 10% increase in blood levels of IGF-1 can increase your risk for cancer by 7x basal rates.
You're living in the dark if you can't see how lobbyists control policy in the USA.
>and the alternative is? can you paint me a reality where this doesn't happen?
Personally, I think corporations should be banned from any political involvement. No doubt their control over media outlets and the propaganda they churn out would still have an impact though.
I wouldn't entirely be opposed to a state-run news outlet where anything could be printed, but actually enforcing that with the state of the current US governmental system is slim to none.
I don't trust 99% of politicians worldwide and neither should you if you know whats good for you.

>Masters in Molecular Biology
>Depending on the day it's either Moby Dick or Crime and Punishment

>>19269965
>At least in the USA, they get convinced that the "other party" is responsible for everything bad in the world when really politicans from both sides of the aisle are having dungeon orgy's, or orgy dungeon and dragon meets, in their spare time.
yea the divide is awful and getting worse by the day
>You're living in the dark if you can't see how lobbyists control policy in the USA.
My question is, if lobbying is so effective, if it actually made corporations money, then why do they spend so little on it? If you divide the total spent on lobbying by the total net income of US corporations its only like 0.04%, like a tenth of a percent. It can't be that effective, if there was more money to be made (relative to what they spend) they would be out making it.

J.D.
Look Homeward, Angel

I don't get it.
Can somebody explain why marketing is bad?

>>19270028
>My question is, if lobbying is so effective, if it actually made corporations money, then why do they spend so little on it?
There's only so many people in high-ranking positions within the US government anon.
A relatively small amount from a companies total profits goes a long way when distributed between a few hundred important people.
Not to mention the fact that many of these people are often working in or with many of these same businesses.
The total payout from the lobbying can be relatively small if they're making their money by investing in certain ideas or companies.

Even Rand Paul, seemingly one of the least cucked politicans for being the son of based Ron and his response to the pandemic, still failed to report over $1.5 million in stock trades he made over the past 2 years, despite the congressional mandate that requires it.
Of course the fee for not reporting is a paltry $200 so for any of those cats, it might as well not exist.

>>19270060
Yeah but we live in a democracy where, if we wanted, we could easiky change things. There is simply no reason to, as this is probably the best world that ever existed in history.
Lobbyism is not our problem in the slighest, it might as well not exist

>accounting masters
>steppenwolf

>>19270060
So you'd agree that if there was more money to be made than paltry billions (relative to the trillions in corporate net income & federal spending) there is no reason they wouldn't be spending it? If the issue with American democracy is that it is 0.1% corrupt (i.e., corporations can only influence less than a dollar in a thousand in government spending), then if anything I would be asking why everyone else in the US seems to not realize this?

>The total payout from the lobbying can be relatively small if they're making their money by investing in certain ideas or companies.
If there's money to be made in investing in these ideas, however that works, I'm not seeing what is stopping them from putting orders of magnitude more money into it. A couple billion (let alone millions) is basically nothing

>>19270067
>this is probably the best world that ever existed in history.
>if we wanted, we could easiky change things
I hope you're joking lol
>>19270091
>So you'd agree that if there was more money to be made than paltry billions
Corporate policy in relation to the government and spending on lobbyism is directly correlated with one of two things.
1: Ignoring the shadier aspects of their business/allowing for cutting corners
2: Consolidating power around specific companies
>If there's money to be made in investing in these idea
You're missing my point. My point is that they typically buy off government officials to let the corporation in question fuck off and do most anything they want (As long there isn't direct culpability or they can suppress their culpability from being reported on/investigated, there isn't a problem for them).

Medicine
Moby dick

>>19270105
>My point is that they typically buy off government officials to let the corporation in question fuck off
Yeah but there's more than one corporation in question, no? That means, if this was profitable, and there was indeed a market to buy political power, so that a corporation could effectively CONTROL the TRILLIONS in government spending, that is, there is trillions of dollars on the line here, then why do corporations seem not to do this, bid way more over the government? Do you really believe that these corporations got that fantastic of a bargain? I think the obvious answer is that the checks and balances are working well

>>19269506
Marketing is pricing stuff based on economics. It's not advertising.

>>19270127
>Then why do corporations seem not to do this, bid way more over the government?
They must maintain the illusion that "the people" are in control of this democracy.
They must keep up the appearances, at least for now, but I don't see that lasting for long.
I very much think in the next 5-15 years they will openly begin doing what you're explicitly wondering about.
First they just need to transfer some of the wealth, which was already out of hand compared to the inequality of the 50's and 60's (from 1956 Ceo's made approximately 52x as much as their companies lowest paid workers. That number is now closer to 500x+), but covid has only increased the rate at which this inequality has been accumulating.

Between wealth distribution, control of the media companies, and soon the dissection of the internet as we know it (already being mauled into submission by fact checkers and "wrongthink" watchdogs) will no longer be the escape either.
Sure VPN's and the darkweb exist, but it won't matter when western nation's build their internet choke points.
Russia already is planning on controlling the 2 physical chokepoints where internet cables enter their country so as to regulate everything that comes in and out.
I could easily see Great Britain or Australia following suit within 25 years of them.

For now though, when you have bots and shills on all social media platforms you can simply drown out your opponents with a sea of fake voices.
>The checks and balances are working well
Also wrong.
These were designed for a much different nation, where the only voters were educated property owners with the hope that they would act and vote benevolently.
I'm not saying suffrage movements are worthless, or that only X ethnicity should be allowed to vote (much less only those wealthy elites swimming in capital) but the average voter today cannot be extracted from their cesspool of propaganda.
People continue buying into it, whether it's declining IQ of the average voter or just better propaganda who knows, but if it keeps working for the elites to maintain their grasp, why would they want to fix it?

>>19269484
you're a meme person

>>19270127
One more point I forgot to mention here
>>19270203
Is that corporations are global, and a single nation (if they are exporters/importers to a monetarily significant degree) can dictate business policy.
Notable example being China, making Blizzard shut down Hong Kong sympathetic streamers, or preventing NBA players from expressing support against the CCP.

Not to mention the fact that if labor laws or unions aren’t favorable in your nation of choice you can just move production to a new 3rd world nation and reap the profits while paying foreign workers penny on the dollar in sweatshops.
Coca-Cola and Apple outsource some of their work in China to prisoners in Uighur Detention Camps being held against their will. And that’s if they’re lucky and don’t get their organs harvested for refusing to parrot CCP “education.”
Not that most Americans give a fuck.
They can lip service all the want, but they’ll buy Chinese made products on Amazon to save $10 every single time.

>>19270316
>>19270127
Btw I’m going to bed, it’s 6:30 am here and I’m losing energy.
Buenas Noches y adios

>>19270203
>They must maintain the illusion that "the people" are in control of this democracy.
Who? Now you're telling me it's all one mind behind every corporation, and this is why they're not bidding? & people's perceptions of this democracy are significantly worse than 0.1% corruption. If anything, the common opinion (that in your view would be brainwashing) is that our government IS in fact very corrupt. Nobody trusts politicians. If I walk up to absolutely anyone and tell them that I think democracy is working as intended, I'M the nutjob. The rest of what you said in this paragraph is complete conjecture, I don't know how to respond to it

>Sure VPN's and the darkweb exist, but it won't matter when western nations build their internet choke points.
>For now though, when you have bots and shills on all social media platforms you can simply drown out your opponents with a sea of fake voices.
These are fine points tho. I think Hillary's "Correct The Record" is sort of like what you said here, except that it unforunately totally failed. We'll see tho

>Also wrong.
But you haven't provided anything in this post to prove that wrong? Or even responded to my point, other than saying it's an "illusion". How? What is the illusion? They literally are NOT bidding over political power when they, according to you, easily could.

>>19270316
>Is that corporations are global, and a single nation (if they are exporters/importers to a monetarily significant degree) can dictate business policy.
Sure, and so all the more reason we would expect to see significantly more bidding for political power, rather than less than 1/1000th of the federal spending. But to you it's all a grand conspiracy
>Not to mention the fact that if labor laws or unions aren’t favorable in your nation of choice you can just move production to a new 3rd world nation and reap the profits while paying foreign workers penny on the dollar in sweatshops.
But international trade deals benefit everybody, even the worker getting paid pennies. Those deals themselves are often the only thing giving those people any workplace protections

>Uighur Detention Camps
I'm with you that this is bad & that social credit is terrifying tho

>>19270189
>Marketing is the process of intentionally stimulating demand for and purchases of goods and services; potentially including selection of a target audience; selection of certain attributes or themes to emphasize in advertising

>>19269484
>History
>The Third Policeman
>>19269555
>Social and cultural Anthropology
>Watership Down
>but 60% of what I read is history
I think I would like you :)
>>19270059
It's commonly seen as the meme "I didn't know what to major in so I did this" degree

Applied math
Used to be Master and Margaret, but I hardly remember anything from the book now. Could be the Kalevala out of those I remember, or Closely Watched Trains.
>>19269509
Bone, as in pic related?

>>19270767
>Bone, as in pic related?
maybe it doesn't harm attaching the pic

>>19269484
chemistry
crime and punishment

Econ & Philosophy, doing Econ PhD now.

Pilgrim at Tinker Creek or Blood Meridian

>>19269529
>fell for the CS jest
me too brother

>>19270796
What's the best economic system?

>>19270865
The second one

>>19270865
I don't work in Macro - those guys might be able to make more rigorous arguments. Most of what we learn about economic 'systems' -- meaning there's an element of government mechanistic control -- supports a free market with some lump sum taxation.

Personally, I support a reasonably strong baseline welfare system with the rest of governmental 'intervention' being for the purpose of supporting a competitive market in which individuals can compete and be rewarded for their risk and innovation. So, basically, some type of tempered form of Capitalism.

Computer Science BS
Tao Te Ching probably

>>19269668
4/10 b8

>>19270796
Econ and Theoretical CS
Ulysses or The Idiot

>>19270865
State Capitalism

>>19269484
Marketing.
Journey to the End of the Night.

>>19271004
>t. seething esl b*siness studies student

>>19269484
>History
>Blood Meridian
Almost leaned into education before I got lazy with crypto. Also books with lots of killing entertain me.

>>19270806
Wdym by this? Its growing compared to other stem fields it seems.
If CS is a meme then what isn't?

>>19269484
>B.A. in philosophy
>Stoner by John Williams

Architectural Engineering Construction technology
Brothers Karamazov

>>19271449
>Brothers Karamazov
if it was finished and included all that was promised, I'd be on the same boat.

>>19271589
The only parts that felt unfinished to me was that we saw little of how Alyosha changed after leaving the monastery, which was disappointing (especially when Dosto dedicated a shitload of pages to intentionally-long-winded courtroom arguments)

>Construction Electrical
>Dune. Or Confessions, depending on the day.

Comp science
The death of ivan ilyich

>>19269926
Veryvery based. Feels good to know there are some people that share the opinion on how the lower classes should be protected from evil by good elites.

>psychology
>bible (Ecclesiastes)

>>19271642
>little of how Alyosha changed after leaving the monastery
Right, and at one (or more) point, Dosto promises Alyosha to be the main character of the latter parts of the piece, and calls him the main character.
To me it seems like the most important part of the book is missing and all we have is the buildup.

>>19271775
>Ecclesiastes
When I read the Bible for the first time, this piece seemed insane to me. It touches on some postmodern topics, in a believing Jewish setting.
Certainly one of the moments when it hit me how timeless the Tanakh is.

>>19269484
Chemistry
The Rings of Saturn, but 75-80% of what I read is chemistry literature and books related to it.
>>19269509
Holy based. those books were the shit in elementary school.
>>19269939
cool stuff

>>19269484
>BA Astrophysics
>Book of the New Sun
I don't even understand half of it I just really like the world

Why do you guys need to use so many words while arguing?

>>19271956
To convey the point.

>>19269946
you are saying the entire thread that you would use marketing "for the good" precisely because you perfectly know how awful and not good and unjustifiable anti-humanist marketing it is. just sayin.

>>19269484
>Welding/Machining
>Meditations on the Tarot

>>19272155
You are very cute

>>19272191
Y..you too

Mechanical Engineering
A Rebours or Journey to the End of the Night

>>19271919
>astrophysics
Do you guys read the Almagest and stuff or is it just massing stars and detecting atmospheres?

no degree
no favorite book
maybe war and peace

>>19272402
>no degree
>favourite book is a translation
ye

>>19271249
In my experience, systems programming is better learned in company practice and pure math is a better basis for TCS than CS at the undergrad level, simply because people who are uninterested in math go for CS bachelors. And you also get useless practical CS lessons.

Philosophy & Religious Studies
Knox Bible, if I have to pick one specific book from it then either Ecclesiastes or Matthew.
>>19269503
Maybe, certainly helped me.

Geology

Epic of Gilgamesh

history (lmao)
my book (lmao)
probably heart of darkness

>>19269503
Trying to become religious has somewhat lifted my spirits so far

>>19269923
All of this is from statism not selling cigarettes.

>>19269947
Anon harry truman and fdr completely destroyed America. We have had no choices and no free elections for 100 years.

>>19273253
Where did I say that was because of selling cigarettes?
Statism is, generally speaking in the modern world, equivalent to exploitation by the elites.
At least in the USA (and some other notable examples like Great Britain, China, Russia, etc)

>>19269484
>Neuroscience PhD
>Stoner

>Medicinal chemistry
>The Count of Monte Cristo

>>19273267
More baseless grand conspiracy mindrot, you’re even worse than people that have nothing to say other than the words manufacturing and consent

>>19273410
Word salad. You have no worldview other than baseless conspiracy

>>19269484
>Political Science
>Stoner

Hs drop out
Alice in wonderland

>>19273506
>You have no worldview other than baseless conspiracy
Oh I'm sorry Mister "I'm just pretending to be retarded" face.

Do I need to simplify it so your pea brain can understand?

>>19269484
>Accounting
>Anabasis
>type A blood
>have whatever the opposite of a type A personality is
I'm a mess of a human being and my life is a neverending struggle. I just want to conduct a campaign against Persia, is that too much to ask?

>>19269506
>>19269882
Good job, anon. The rat needed to be told it.
>>19271449
patrician
>>19271919
tofu guzzler
>>19272246
depression core

>>19269484
>Too many degrees, but I was classics undergrad and two more law degrees
>Bible, I legit read it nearly every day

>>19269484
>marketing degree
>favorite book is the Bible
I bet my entire life's savings and a year's worth of paychecks that you're a Protestant who only goes to church on Christmas and Easter.

>>19269484
>information from this site is intrinsically unreliable
>except for OP always being a fag

>>19270784
Yep.

>>19269484
>linguistic anthropology with a minor in russian lit
>ts elliot gerontion, heaven and hell (huxley), and BK

>>19269484
comp sci
fahrenheit 451
sparked and focused a latent drive in me to never waste my limited worldly time on empty thoughts, empty activities, or empty people

>>19273768
Why are tradcath/ortholarpers so petty?

>physics and math
>cant decide between stoner and pale fire

>>19273904
Sweet!

>>19272849
Criminal that this post has gone unpraised for 11 hours and 29 minutes, God bless anon

>>19269506
>Deriving personal philosophy from a stand up
>Linking a hack makesuthink routine instead of making a point
>Hmm yes cringe outlaw nihilism really suits my tell it like it is personality
Gay.

>>19269484
> Computer Science
> The Great Gatsby
Something about the Great Gatsby that makes me feel like I am in the warmest day of summer and everyone has gone off to be somewhere else and it's just me enjoying the sun in silence.

>>19269484
>Spanish teacher
>A Confederacy of Dunces

>MD/PhD in psych
>The Book of Disquiet or Absalom Absalom

bumping while there's still a little life in the thread

Econometrics
The Time Machine by H.G. Wells

>>19273646
Nothing you said could get any simpler, the issue is that it's retarded