/lit/ - Literature

Prometheus Rising and/or Quantum Psychology by Robert Anton Wilson.

Created is too strong.
We augment it.
Plus that green guy is swinging some pipe.

>>19250600

ITT : dude weed!

Materialism ftw

The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot, great book

>>19250600
>the mind creates reality

OK, but whose mind?

>>19250650
There are no other minds besides mine.

>>19250650
He remains unrefuted. The finest philosophical minds of Europe and Bertrand Russell tried and failed.

>>19250615
Thanks anon, that is exactly what I'm looking for.

>>19250613
Sounds pretty cool.

>>19250624
I'll add this to the list, thank you. AI and machine learning are really interesting to me. I'm trying to learn Python right now to mess around with it.

>>19250614
The human brain creates what you experience as reality, anon. There's a physical universe out there, for sure, but we can't interact with and experience it without consciousness. Even if we could, I don't think we'd recognize it as reality. It's just an endless sea atoms and shit moving around.

>>19250667
>literal who
>remains unrefuted

>>19250684
nevermind, i know him, just never read him nor seen his picture

>>19250671
We don't create the external data though, we filter and augment to make a coherent story.

>>19250644
It looks great, anon, thanks.

Definitely looking for stuff that deals with the supernatural like this. Part of what got me thinking about this was reading I've recently been doing about demonic possession. I don't really think any of that stuff is "real", per se, though.

>>19250650
Oh yeah, this is also exactly what I'm looking for.

Berkeley, Leibniz, Schopenhauer

>>19250725
Good call. For anyone who wants to read the tl;dr
Here’s a paper which is related. https://www.academia.edu/1164489/_On_Consciousness_Nietzsches_Departure_from_Schopenhauer_Nietzsche_Studien_40_pp_1_42

>>19250709
But the story is reality. Pain is real. If you smashed your hand with a hammer right now, you would experience pain. But it doesn't actually exist in the material world. It's created by the central nervous system in response to certain stimuli, and the sensation of pain only exists in the subjective experience of the organism. It's unquantifiable and can't be directly observed. You can look at the behavior of the organism or something like an fMRI of its brain, but you can't actually observe the experience of pain. But nobody would deny its existence even though it only exists in the reality of the mind.

>>19250852
I know that.
A non c-fiber even can trigger pain and a c-fiber even can feel like nothing.
My question is; How to remove pain processing in the brain so I could roast my dick off with a torch and not care?

I don't want to do that. Its merely an example.

>>19250872
*event, not "even"

>>19250600
ignore the other posts Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason literally proves that the mind at least partially creates reality

>>19250872
Sever your spinal cord's connection to the brain. People do it all the time. You'd have to get someone else to hold the torch, though.

>>19250904
>People do it all the time
Recreationally? I'll never understand these zoomers!

>>19250615
This book seems interesting. I've seen some interviews with hoffman where he talks about computer models that he's used to inform his theory. Does he go into much detail about that in this book?

>>19250684
turrible post

>>19250600
How to create a mind

>>19250658
Solipism is some stupid ass bullshit. You think you're fucking special enough to be the center of everything? Everythings just choas, everybody and everything just bouncing off each other forever.

>>19251202
If everything is purely mental why not other people as well? You're my inferiority complex acting up.

>>19250600
Bernardo Kastrup is worth reading

Why are midwits so strongly triggered by the mention of solipsism? It’s like deep down they question whether a mind as shallow as theirs could possibly sustain the whole of existence.

>>19250600
Kant is the one and only answer

>>19250600
>no such thing as a chair
Yes there is because there is such a thing as our concept of it, so there are a class of objects which have a particular relation to another class of objects such that we can label them(in so far as we can label anything, a proton is just a class of objects that have particular relations with other classes of objects as well).

>>19251262
Correct me if wrong, but doesn’t your tautology depend on equating the concept of the thing with the thing itself?

>>19251262
The problem with this is there are plenty of objects that we have concepts of that don't exist say unicorns, Santa Claus, or God. If realism included psychological objects as real no one would be a nominalist.

>>19251228
Its such a narrow look at things. You can go to a concert with hundreds of other living people and think each interaction that each of those people are having is a part of a mirage you're making for yourself? Naw dawg, I don't buy it.

>>19251228
nobody’s saying everything’s purely mental. it’s just that the reality that consciousness constructs is not really representative of what actually is. i assume the laws of physics and the physical world exist. i interact with other people every day in physical space, so i’m not sure why i’d assume that they wouldn’t exist if i assume other things do, even if not in the way that the mind considers them to.

>>19250615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc4GOkHfxBY

>>19251273
>>19251272
Chairs are actual objects we use

>>19250600
do 250 micrograms of acid and you will come to understand this self-evident truth really quickly. no books required