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Half of the Pauline epistles were not authored by Paul and both of the Petrine epistles are forgeries. Why are they still considered scripture while the apocrypha lost its scripture status with the reformation?

>> No.19244143

>>19244128
why can’t skydaddy schizos stick to the right bord?
>>>/his/

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19244152

>>19244143
fpbp

>> No.19244156

>>19244143
>>19244152
I am not a Christian and the bible is literature.

>> No.19244161

>>19244128
I lost my Catholic faith because I couldn’t juggle all the copes needed to keep the religion stitched together. Apologists will proffer abject lies like “pseudepigrapha wasn’t considered forgery” even though, if I recall correctly, early Christians rejected other works from inclusion in the canon on that basis…

>> No.19244403

Imo someone like Irenaeus was within living memory of these being written and so would have been in a better position to gauge authenticity or not than we ever will be

>> No.19244498

>>19244128
the Apocrypha sucks ass and has a tone of contradictions

>> No.19244519

>>19244128
>dis part of jewish capeshit is considered canon while dis part is not!
Grow up, stop reading Desert Adventures of Kikes

>> No.19244547

>>19244128
Because it negates their scam faith

>> No.19244783

>>19244128
They were all authored by Paul. I trust the Holy Tradition more than autismo anti-Christian scholars sperging about different styles of writing

>> No.19244787

>>19244128
Christianity belongs in /pol/.

>> No.19244805

>>19244128
>Half of the Pauline epistles were not authored by Paul and both of the Petrine epistles are forgeries.

This is pure speculation based on dubious reasoning that rests on even more dubious assumptions.

>>19244161
>Apologists will proffer abject lies like “pseudepigrapha wasn’t considered forgery”
It's an incredibly lame rationalization.

>>19244403
>Imo someone like Irenaeus was within living memory of these being written and so would have been in a better position to gauge authenticity or not than we ever will be

Correct. The various theories alluded to by OP arose some 1700 years after the texts were written, and they completely disregard the testimony of the near-contemporary testimony found in the early Church Fathers.

>> No.19245533

>>19244403
he was a Judaizing shill

>> No.19245550

>>19245533
How do you judaize a religion that was still a part of Judaism at the time

>> No.19245554

>>19244403
>>19244805
Irenaeus was in a better position than us to determine the nature of the universe at its birth because he was closer to it then than we are now.

>> No.19245576

>>19245554
Wow great point, retard.

>> No.19245926

>>19244805
how many competing texts did the Church™ Fathers burn?

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>>19244143
Umm no sweaty this is the right board now

>> No.19245984 [DELETED] 

>>19244547
You're a nigger.

>> No.19246569

>>19244805
>Imo someone like Irenaeus was within living memory of these being written and so would have been in a better position to gauge authenticity or not than we ever will be
>Correct. The various theories alluded to by OP arose some 1700 years after the texts were written, and they completely disregard the testimony of the near-contemporary testimony found in the early Church Fathers.
The Harry Potter books were written by J.K. Rowling, and we know so because contemporaneous authors believed they were all written by J.K. Rowling.
Same with Stephen King’s literature.

Paul was some sort of intelligence spook.
It’s quite possible he didn’t write anything attributed to him, or parts were written by others, then attributed to him.

>> No.19248013

>>19246569
There's no reason to doubt the authenticity of the any of the "genuine" epistles. They have a consistent style of writing and don't feature any anachronisms (Unlike the Petrine epistles or Acts)
They also don't read like literary constructions (like the epistle to the Hebrews; it's not even an epistle), so it's fair to assume they are genuine.

>> No.19248391

>>19244128
>Half of the Pauline epistles were not authored by Paul

literally no evidence beyond "academics" saying, broooo this one reads different in my subjective opinion it wans't paul

>> No.19248397

>>19248391
Pseudo-Paul has a different theology and contradicts the real one.