/lit/ - Literature

Bakker

The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills.

>Brass tubes on everyone's head is a good scifi aesthetic

I loved The Difference Engine but steampunk needs to be drug behind a boiler and shot.

>>19225228
Kek, my thoughts exactly

Fellow Bakkersisters I'm starting Judging Eye, why is it so much shorter than the books of original trilogy?

Hi folks, do (you) want help keep /sffg/ good?

What's that, Jimmy? You want to help? Good lad.

Gather round, gather round. Now, listen up kids, this is how you can help.

1. Do not under any circumstances reply to Bakker posts.
2. Hide Bakker posts as soon as you see them.

Bakker posters are doing it on purpose to make /sffg/ a nasty place and they are baiting people into replying to them. Don't fall for their tricks. Together we can help make /sffg/ a better place.

Ain't that right, Jimmy?

>Hi folks, do (you) want help keep /sffg/ good?
>
>What's that, Jimmy? You want to help? Good lad.
>
>Gather round, gather round. Now, listen up kids, this is how you can help.
>
>1. Do not under any circumstances reply to Bakker posts.
>2. Hide Bakker posts as soon as you see them.
>
>Bakker posters are doing it on purpose to make /sffg/ a nasty place and they are baiting people into replying to them. Don't fall for their tricks. Together we can help make /sffg/ a better place.
>
>Ain't that right, Jimmy?

Right winged Bakkerchad buddies (hard af)

Bakker is based

No God really breaks a nigga (big inchoroi cock)

Bakker is reddit incarnate, after Rothfuss.

>>19225302
Didn't ask.

>Bakker is reddit incarnate, after Rothfuss.

>>19225305
not my problem

>>19225310
Didn't ask, I accept your defeat, bakker general chads

Bakker is King

>Didn't ask, I accept your defeat, bakker general chads

>Imagine having seething filtrados advertising your favorite author and bumping your general 24/7

Feels good, ngl.

>>19225329
yeah these filtrados are our little butt slaves, they just please our inchoroi desires

I love you Bakkerchads, I may have no friends but at least I have my fellow Bakkerchads to conversate about the No God and daddy Kellhus when I feel down and about. never give up the Bakker grind and stay strong against the Sandersoia enemies.

What happens if a sorcerer puts condom on a chorae and jams it up his bussy? What about anal bead chain made of chorae?

>>19225380
Salty anal.

>"S-Sanderson's books are the MCU of fantasy! They basically battle shonen!"

>>19225497
I read like two and a quarter of the mistborn books and gave it up. very meh.

>>19225154
where can I get old numbers of SF magazines?

>>19225570
Same.

>>19225154
All /sffg/fags must hang

>>19225755
Ok incel.

>>19225676
There is nothing wrong with point 2. I don't understand why boomers have such an issue with detailed magic systems. Not everything needs to be like LotR.
>but it's like something out of a video game!l
So what?

>>19225794
but /pol/ told me games are for jews

>>19225810
They are (and that's a good thing)

>>19225818
yeah thank god I'm Aryan, imagine playing video games and having fun!

>>19225794
>So what?
I already have video games for that.

>>19225497
>That will be 1000$ + tip for the complete story

The absolute state of Sandersoys.

>>19225995
Some guy here spent 500$ on a single sandershit book.

>>19226044
Sanderkings win again

>yeah one copy of the Sanderson book please

>500$ is rich

>>19226044
>Journey before destination
cringe

>>19226065
I'm so rich that I literally wipe my ass with that shit.

>>19226090
kys

>kys

The absolute state of this thread.

The shitposters switch from Bakker as soon as people start ignoring them and start shitposting Sanderson instead.

Imagine having no life other than d this shit all day everyday over and over again just to farm (you)s.

>>19226090
get a bident instead

>>19226090
Sperged so hard he spazzed and started chimping in his room tearing a book

>>19226224
And what would that be?

>>19226236
get an Inchoroi dildo (bbc) to wipe dat ass

>>19226219
>>19226109
>>19226227
Looks like I struck a nerve.

>>19226244
Based Bakker nerve striker, you pleased my inchoroi desire by letting me explode on the screen.

>>19226219
Not my problem.

>>19226253
cock my penis. (Bakker reference)

>>19226090
Based.

>>19226264
Evil and grim pilled!

>The absolute state of this thread.

>The shitposters switch from Bakker as soon as people start ignoring them and start shitposting Sanderson instead.

>Imagine having no life other than d this shit all day everyday over and over again just to farm (you)s.

I love owning the sandershits and making them seethe.

>peerless beauty
>with x it could be said that y was by no means inferior to a martial artist of the x realm!

>>19226318
Based, also nice tight ass on that bic owner

What's even the point of reading any more books now that I've read every gene wolfe book?

>>19225984
That's wrong as well. The 4th book will be released next year.

>>19225190
>tugs braid
>folds arms under breasts
>smooths skirt
>I wish Perrin was here. He knows how to talk to girls (t. Rand)
>I wish Rand was here. He knows how to talk to girls (t. Perrin)
>burn the Aes Sedai
>ta'veren, Rand/Mat/Perrin

Huft a buffty buff! bumble bamble
Dufft a nuffty hnng! dingle bimble

>>19225154
Fledgling - Octavia E. Butler (2005)
This is a book about vampires. It would be reasonable to conclude that it's a horror novel. Many others would agree. The majority probably even find it to be quite disturbing and a very uncomfortable read. This is a transgressive novel in terms of social dynamics and societal expectations. I don't know if it was specifically intended to trouble others or if was meant to be a sincere exploration of other ways of being. I think it's the the latter, and it's possible the average reader was too shocked for that to be acceptable.
As I've written before, I likely incriminate myself by saying so, but this wasn't a horror novel to me at all, or for that matter disturbing or uncomfortable. What I read was 3/4s murder mystery and 1/4 legal thriller. I'm unable to say why I was so enthralled. Does it merit what I think about it? I don't know and I don't care. What I know is that I felt this was amazing and none of its flaws could detract from it in any way. It had so much to say and I loved how it was said.
Six months after this novel was published, Butler died. This could've became a series and if it had, it may have become one of my favorites. After I finished reading I began mourning. What an utterly devastating loss of what should've been. All that I can do is to give the benefit of the doubt to all else she wrote and allow it a far greater chance.
Rating: 5/5

>>19226525
we dont deserve you based tripfaggot

>>19226525
Cool blogpost.

How do I unsubscribe?

>>19226525
>female character
DROPPED

>>19226561
>She doesn't know...

Joke's on you really.

>>19226570
wat

>>19226565
Refer to image.
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Filter and highlight specific threads/posts
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>tfw when you've had any post mentioning the author who must not be named for a very long time on auto-hide.
It really cleans up the threads.

>>19226650
Brapper is King

>>19226650
We accept your surrender.

>>19226450
Is writing characters with consistent habits a bad thing?

>N-no we totally don't love men that are aggressive and rapey in our fiction.
>That's why all of our most popular fantasy stories are about them.
Why do women try to hide their obsession with alpha chads?

>>19226699
We accept your surrender.

>>19226360
Is it bad that I instantly recognized that old man?

>>19226082
As if ancient sayings aren't cringe even out of fiction

>>19226785
That is not an "ancient saying" lol

>>19225676
I got filtered at 'boy howdy'

>>19226798
That's your average Sanderson audience.

These last few threads have been pretty painful and disappointing without the Bakkerposts. I'm glad we're back on top, fellow Believer-Kings!

>>19226793
But it is....

>>19226843
Give me a source at least 500 years old.

>>19226887
wait a minute you're not so retarded you thought i was talking out of the fictional world that is the subject do you?!?! hehehehe retard

>>19226924
I assume that you are claiming that "The journey is more important than the destination" or some variation of that is an "ancient saying" in the real world, given that you made the statement "even out of fiction." It is indeed old (I can find Emerson as a source) but not ancient.

how come there is not a single lore channel on youtube about the second apocalypse, especially considering the cultic fandom here. i know they are far more popular but you have a thousand wheel of time, stormlight archive and elder scrolls lore/history channels, a TSA one would be nice. is it because its considered a lower form of education or something or is bakker not that popular yet? i read that 150 page history of earwa thing and its beautifully written and pretty engaging stuff, a video form of it with images/fan art would be pretty cool.

>>19226959
Bakker has no cultic like followers.

>>19226975
have you read /sffg/ lately lol? I'm not saying its a bad thing or anything

>>19226989
Cultic following involves congregation and non anonymous representation. Which is nothing like what you see here.

>>19227019
It is though

>>19227019
This is pretty accurate actually. I can't think of anyone who represents the Bakker community. Although his underground/mild popularity can't be denied.

What do I think of Expanse?

>>19226959
Bakker is the only one to blame for his loss in popularity. He's been hiding for over an year now.

>>19226959
>slavery, misogyny, class division, pedophilia, and religious sacrifices normalised
>almost no female characters of note and they only exist to provide their holes
>raperaperaperaperaperaperape
>bad guys can't go 5 seconds without stroking their curvy cocks, cannibalizing someone, or assfucking people to death
>white savior plot
>tons of racial stereotypes
>no characters with 21st century morality
>confusing lore with names no western person can ever pronounce
Gee I wonder why TSA is not a massive hit

>>19227107
Picked up. Thanks for the recommendation.

>>19227056
Didn't ask

>>19227115
I asked.

I still don't know if people are being sincere with their praising Bakker or it's just a meme gone too far.

>>19225154
>wearing fucking plumbing on your head
This is not steampunk. This is plumberpunk.

>>19227126
Where do you think steam is stored?

>>19227118
Not my problem.

>>19227124
Have you read Bakker?

>>19227149
cock my penis?

>>19227131
Fuck do you need to store steam in your hair for?
God damn, a whole world of victorian accessories, materials, and designs at your disposal and what you decide to go for is fucking brass pipes on your fucking head? In a fucking 50s american diner?

I am straight up angry at this retard artist right now, for not even putting in minimum effort to the garbage he churns out.
Ruined my fucking day.
Fuck.

>>19227160
Non sequitur.

I accept your defeat.

>>19227149
What do you think of Expanse?

>>19227174
I penis your dick.

Any books where the protagonist gets cucked? Besides Kingkiller Chronicles of course.

This shit is getting to me. I need smart protagonist to read why THE FUCK can't E William Brown just publish my shit? Doesn't he know that he isn't a person anymore after putting out things the public can consume? He is just a machine now.

>>19227422
meds

>>19227110
Kek. It is good

>>19227281
Kill yourself.

>>19227696
Is that a good book?

>>19225276
Cnaiur is a groyper

>>19225154
Are there any books about pic related?

jolenta was asking it

>>19227124
It's a small group of autists who come to these threads to shit them up with Bakker posting.

They just spam the same shit over and over again.

why does that classic (1970-80s) fantasy look have so much SOUL? Yes, it is formulaic and cliche and probably contributed to the state cesspit that fantasy literature has become today but damn there is something alluring about it
>inb4 nostalgia
I was born in 2000 so it sure as hell isn't nostalgia

>kills the main villain halfway through

>>19226682
No, it's a retarded complaint, especially in a series so long.

>>19227982
It's still nostalgia derived from a sense that things were better in past. It may be better called romanticization though.

>>19225281
Those tits are based, but I'm not reading a book because it was promoted with beautiful tits.

>>19228299
I am.

>>19227107
>white savior plot
Filtered.

>>19228305
a brainlet.

>>19227281
The Darkness That Comes Before, of course.

>>19228314
Based Bakker Cuck
(bbc)

>>19227982
People wrote fantasy because they liked fantasy and drew fantasy because they liked fantasy. Genre stuff now is a lot more cynical and calculated.

Who's Bakker?

No, I'm serious. Who is he?

>>19228568
Author of gay fantasy fiction set in a misogynistic world

>>19228568
From what I've gathered reading the shitposts/spam in these threads, he's a gay erotica author.

>inhibitor phase is out
fuck, I thought it was supposed to come out in october? Seems I missed it by a month.

>>19228568
Scott "curved phallus supreme" Bakker is the king of sffg and an infamous writer banned by the sheep and read by the wolves.

Are the Dresden Files good? I saw a rando comment saying that the protag is sexist and it piqued my interest.

>>19228640
depends on your Inchoroi desires and how extreme they are

>>19228653
>inchoroi
I googled that word, read a few pages and now feel like I witnessed schizophrenia.
Verification not requred.

>>19228568
he's memed but im enjoying his stuff as much as I did Malazan. Except for the cuck shit.

>>19228682
I meant depends on how hard you are, the more hard the less good Dresden Files is, if you are a softy you will enjoy it.

harry potter but for adults?

>>19228707
I'm a literary noob and socially awkward enough that stilted dialogue flies over my head. I think I'll try it.
See you in 2 days.

>>19228734
The Magicians

>>19228584
does revelation space get good? I started chasm city and it had a few cool ideas but the amateurish writing made me drop it

I've never read the Wheel of Time.

>>19228779
I like it. Chasm city did suck though. But I also RARELY drop books. Think the only book I've dropped in the last year was stand on zanzibar. Couldn't fucking put up with it. Be careful if you're using kindle or some shit, it fucked up the order and I completely missed one of the books. It thought chasm space was the second book in the series and I ended up skipping redemption ark until I finished absolution gap. So fucking dumb.

>>19228813
It's better than the homos in this thread give it credit for though desu

>>19228813
It's not THAT bad. Though it really is longer than it has any right to be. This is one of two series that I actively skipped through pages, the other being Shallan's chapters in Stormlight Archive. If you have the patience and time then give it a read.

>>19228568
The best contemporary fantasy author One of the greatest of all time for me

>>19228314
The protagonist is actually the BVLL.

>Author of gay fantasy fiction set in a misogynistic world

>>19228987
what did he mean by this

>>19228813
it's pretty good, particularly if you're in the mood for a slow burn.

>>19228773
is it good? amazon reviews seem kinda negative

>>19229120
I remember the prose was insufferable and dnf'd like 100 pages in, and that's very rare for me.

>>19229120
It got a TV adaption that killed off a bisexual character and the book got reviewed bombed by angry twitterers as a result. The books are okay if you think you can get into the "depressed overachieving millenials go to hogwarts" shtick

>>19228640
They're easy to read, but the story and characters haven't aged well, and Jim Butcher is a weird closet case. Read Garrett PI instead.

>>19229120
Do you want to read a subversion of Narnia and Harry Potter that is about characters dealing with depression?
If you do you might like it, if you don't you might hate it (I'm in the latter)
>>19228734
Interpreting this as asking for magic school:
It borders YA a bit but A Deadly Education is a much better magic school story. Haven't read the just released sequel yet.
Blood Song is warrior school, good, sequels fall off because of a weird decision to go multi-pov.
Mercedes Lackey has multiple series based around magical university settings, your mileage may vary but if you take to it there's a lot there.
Imager is set around a magic school and a protagonist learning magic but it focuses on his extracurricular spy/diplomat/cop work more than the school, which is a wise choice imo. That's the first 3 imager books, sequels are not school set (but are even better books)
And I'm not a fan but Name of the Wind is probably the "adult" book designed to appeal to harry potter fans.

Final shout out to Mother of Learning which is very long but a good magical school timeloop story.
Xianxia also has loads of magic schools/sects if you want to go for even longer stuff
(best to treat webnovels as reading a whole series instead of one book, the length makes more sense then)

>>19228640
>Are the Dresden Files good? I saw a rando comment saying that the protag is sexist and it piqued my interest.
I'm not a fan, sort of set up like detective stories but then he just bumbles into magical fights.
Urban fantasy, especially stuff set on earth, is really hard to do well desu. Very little in that genre is actually good.

>>19229172
>Jim Butcher is a weird closet case
tell me more, these things sound memeier by the second

>>19229258
It's only funny in summary. Dresden just never fucks despite ample opportunity and talks about how hot his brother is, and his love interest is a hollow stronk womyn blob. I hear Codex Alera is way weirder but haven't read.

These are underrated and Dresden is overrated

>>19229328
>>19229326
Meant this

>>19226525
Is that a nigger on the cover? No thanks

>>19229326
based incel
>>19229328
i'll check those out too

>>19228554
Are you sure?
People have been writing calculated books for a very long time, why not fantasy at the time?

>An old enemy becomes an ally
>An old ally becomes an enemy
This is what separates dreck from kino

I hate Robin Hobb so much.
Her books are the definition of trash. Full of cuckolding and angst and homosexual relationships and sexual abuse and every other retarded thing that women get off to.
Burrich cucking Fitz was my last straw.

>>19227107
>White saviour plot.
I will now read your book.

Any book recommendations for someone who liked New Sun and Second Apocalypse? Ideally something that gives off morrowind vibes

>>19227751
in some ways, dune

Recommend me some fantasy where there are actual Elves, Orcs and other calssic stuff. Not some Shanka, Nonmen and other made-up cringe races.

>>19229782
Only one I loathe more than Hobb's is Goodkind.
Anyone who recommends them should be isolated from society.

>>19226959
it's just not popular enough, the content makes it pretty inaccessible to people interested in mainstream fantasy, not to mention bakker dumps all these names and places on you and expects you to catch up. i love that style and the books are up there as my all time favourite but that's just how it is. hell, the prologue of the story alone is probable impenetrable to some readers. maybe a blessing in disguise, you'll never get a fucked up adaptation of it, the worst we'll ever see in regards to the series are the shitposts in this general

>>19229986
Just read Tolkien then. Or his shit successors from the 70’s to early 90’s

>>19227131
in the balls

How is the Wheel of Time series? I want to read it after hearing the song.

>Recommend me some fantasy where there are actual Elves, Orcs and other calssic stuff. Not some Shanka, Nonmen and other made-up cringe races.

>>19230275
norman garbage

>>19230275
The Wheel of Time is really average. And that's somehow worse than bad.

>>19228813
ignore the other three replies and avoid it.
actually, just watch the TV show. It will probably be better than the books (low bar).

>>19229863
Last Dragon by JM McDermott gave me vague BOTNS vibes.

>>19230585
But it already looks more generic and boring than the book, wich is an achievement in itself.

>>19225281
>>19228299
I literally got the audiobook soly based on this image. But I am not readin it

>>19230606
Audio Books are not books, though.

>>19230621
This.

Imagine having a narrator tainting your experience with his voice and pace.

Big YIKES!

>>19226450
>I wish Perrin was here. He knows how to talk to girls (t. Rand)
That one was funny and I liked it.

>>19226682
Yes. It displays your amateurism as a writer.

>>19228189
That's why long series are usually bad.

>>19225154
Where were you when Rothfuss made Loki in DnD?

>>19230699
certainly not watching basedfuss doesntwrite

thoughts?

>>19230621
>>19230623
God damn it, fine I'll read it.

>>19230699
maybe he should build the third kingkiller book first

>>19230784
dont listen to them, audiobooks are based. go on a walk and play an audiobook its chill (though I wouldn't recommend bakker as audiobook material, its too deep, the prose is complicated and may be hard to follow. try an easier and more popular book)

>>19230800
Nice projection.

>>19230800
Agree. As someone who loves audio books, I would seriously recommend pic related. Reading books is for losers.

>>19230796
Is it worth a read if he's never going to finish it?

>>19230757
Read them as a kid and loved them, reread them recently and they still hold up fairly well. Also I noticed that he likes King Crimson, there's a reference to lark's tongues in aspic being one of the fancy rich magician's foods in the first book.

>>19230757
The first book was okay. The second book introduces a female protagonist who is obnoxious, always right about everything, and extremely uninteresting, I disliked her enough that I never bothered with the third book.

Ken Liu fag from the last thread still waiting on The Veiled Throne, I would have never even read The Three-Body Problem & etc if it wasn't for The Dandelion Dynasty books. The only other fantasy book I'm really looking forward to doesn't come out till next fucking year, Moon Witch & Spider King by Marlon James(yes, the gay black guy who won the Booker a few years ago, fuck off he's actually a good writer)

>>19228308
White """""savior"""""

Can anyone explain to a brainlet how a mixed/state run economy works (or is supposed to) in a science fiction setting where one entity/government/authority has taken over the Earth and there is no outside trading of any kind? Like where does "the capital" come from?

>>19228640
The audiobooks are good. Not exactly the most highbrow stuff, but by far the only Urban Fantasy good enough for me to bother with.

I think the two good parts are the protagonist's growth and the worldbuilding. Its fun watching him become more and more hardcore as the books go on.

>>19231082
The same way the modern economy works. That is to say, it doesn't, and it continues running based purely on inertia because a lot of people THINK it's working fine, but is fundamentally unstable because a single crisis is very likely to cause the entire house of cards to collapse.
Either that or you could just go the "autonomic market bots run the economy and the world is a hellscape" route, which we're not far from anyway.

>>19231100
I'm just trying to understand the concept of economics without trade, no political shitposting intended.

I'm imagining something like;
>Government/King/whatever takes over and claims ownership of everything(?)
>Gives people money/credits in exchange for working and producing goods
>Sells goods and resources to people in exchange for credits
>Prints enough money to meet circulation demands but doesn't print money to pay people because then it would lead to inflation(?)
>Profit???

>>19231128
The money is backed by nothing, but more importantly a one world currency is a massive disaster waiting to happen. The Euro is a great example of why on a smaller scale
>The Eurozone adopts the Euro
>Smaller economies in the Eurozone can't compete with Germany's economic output
>German infrastructure lets them undercut the competition on exports
>The smaller economies, if they still used their own currencies, would compete by letting their currency depreciate
>But due to the Euro, they cannot do this
>Germany gets more money, leading to more infrastructure, leading to them having an even greater advantage
>The smaller economies become de-facto slave states to Germany
Economics is fundamentally not a rational function, 1+1 doesn't always equal 2, because a small hint of instability COULD do absolutely nothing, or it could cause a country wide run on the banks leading to a cash shortage for absolutely no reason (Greece circa 2017).
Centrally planned economies with a centrally controlled currency just make this problem even worse, because a bureaucracy cannot react to market trends swiftly, or effectively (because it's run by Bureaucrats).

On the other hand, what you're describing is actually similar to what Hitler did when he initially came to power. He abandoned the previous currency which had gone into Hyper Inflation, and started issuing government bonds in exchange for work in public projects. I can't remember exactly what they were backed by (I think it was flour or something?), but they were backed, not fiat. It caused a massive economic recovery, but it also pissed certain people because he kicked out all the bankers and wouldn't sell government bonds for foreign currency.

Was actual message of the Dune saga "just fuck your sister already"?

>>19227719
The bibble

>>19227719
Cnaiur is a groyper and he groyps people

>>19231163
>He abandoned the previous currency which had gone into Hyper Inflation, and started issuing government bonds in exchange for work in public projects. I can't remember exactly what they were backed by (I think it was flour or something?), but they were backed, not fiat. It caused a massive economic recovery, but it also pissed certain people because he kicked out all the bankers and wouldn't sell government bonds for foreign currency.
All of this is complete bullshit, nothing remotely like this happened.
What the Nazis did was print fiat money through various creative means to fund military rearmament, which lead to shortages across the civilian economy because all material imports went to armaments plants instead of factories that made consumer goods. This lead to both an inflation and good shortage. The Nazis responded by encouraging large corporations to buy up smaller competitors for pennies on the dollar to "rationalize" the economy, and imposed fixes prices for goods and wages for workers. They also made it illegal for workers to go on strike or change their employer. This lead to, among other things, a reduction in the availability of food and consumer goods, as well as a significant reduction of the quality of the goods that were still available. Nazi economists predicted a severe recession around 1940-1941, which was countered by the Nazis stealing everything not nailed down in the territories they occupied, as well as enslaving millions of foreign workers to prop up the massive corporations in the Reich.

>>19231236
It is a constant throughout the series

>Tolkien hated Dune but liked Isaac Asimov's works

Wonder why

>>19230699
I tried reading his first book. I've started it and quit four times. It's a book about nothing. I don't see the hype.

Bakkerchads [Spoiler]How could that fucking whore rebuke Achamian when he returns from being tortured. Such like a whore that she would change overnight. Bakker has a strong understanding of women, but my heart hurts for Akka.[/spoiler]

>>19231726
You just need to be Hard af and have a heart of an inchoroi that just want to fuck hard ass, stop being a soisanderson.

>>19231726
She was already with Kellhus. What exactly did you expect her to do at that point? Wasn't she pregnant too?

>>19231746
women are whores, even my mom

>>19231764
So are men.

>>19231771
Speak for yourself, I am a pure virgin.

>>19231771
not Bakkerchads, we are based and redpilled unlike our moms

>>19231778
If you're unable to procreate due to your inability to find a suitable partner, you are failure.

>>19231789
>you are failure.
At what?

>>19231802
You failed your biological purpose.

>>19231807
There is no such thing.

Malazam or Locke Lamora? I wanna waste time in my new job

>There is no such thing.

Yes I'm a Bakkerchad, yes I'm a pure virgin. I hate women and like hard men

>>19231851
Explain how biology can impose a behavioral obligation.

>>19231862
Scylvendi!

>>19231865
Do you actually think the person you are replying to is interested in discourse?

>comb through litRPG novels
>none with main heroines that cater specifically to my fetish
this is bullshit

>>19231746
I understand Esmewhore rejecting post-torture Akka, she was indeed preggers and went through the desert with Kellhus, this kind of experience changes people, but when she still rejects Akka after fucking him during the battle of Shimeh and learning the truth of Kellhus, this shit was just vile. A whore after all.

>>19225228
This
Steampunk would have been so easy to do right by just sticking to the victorian aesthetic with some crude clock-work body mods here and there, but the spergs that like the aesthetic have it in their heads that nobody would get it unless you add gears and pipes everywhere.

>>19231909
your mom is Inchoroied

>>19231909
That entire arc was terrifyingly realistic from a humane stand point. Take the fantasy out, and Bakker still holds.

>>19231726
>>19231909
He had loved a whore, and reaped the wages accordingly.

>>19231890
10k words from a decent writefag is ~100-200 bucks, depends on how powerful you are

>>19231970
imagine loving a whore? ew I hate whores, I love Conan the muscularian.

>>19232095
Based and hard pilled

>>19232095
whores=women
women=vagina
vagina=ew

>women are whores for inchoroi cock
>they only want an inchoroi to fuck them
wow thanks for the red pill

>>19232171
that's why I go for No God conventions, it's full of red pills

>>19225676
>>19225794
You'd think writing shitty, lazy physics would be more triggering for the usual fantasy autists that like "hard" systems, but somehow it's not. Especially when they're not even internally consistent. I mean seriously, making a big deal about the relative weight between what's being pushed and pulled in mistborn, only to use fucking coins as the main mean of transportation? Go ahead, try pushing a coin, put all your weight into it, and see if you or the coin moves first. Unless you're doing it at like a perfect perpendicular angle on a perfectly flat and hard surface, that coin's pretty much always moving first.

>>19232185
>mean seriously, making a big deal about the relative weight between what's being pushed and pulled in mistborn, only to use fucking coins as the main mean of transportation?
The coin eventually hits the ground, or a building, or something else massive and solid that resists the push, retard. Did you seriously read the entire book and never once bother to pay attention to this?

>>19226044
They were like $200, unless you wanted a bunch of extra stickers and shit

t. bought the books with only some of the weird stickers and shit

>>19232091
I don't think I would be satisfied with what I could afford. might as well just write it myself

What the fuck is it with these people?

The "breaking the 4th wall" is a literary device, because the book is written as a a deliberate account of events for posterity, after the fact, and the author addresses his prospective readers occasionally to clarify or just converse with them.

For example
>I wondered once why authors of ancient days so often prostrate themselves before their audience, apologize, beg favors, pray to the reader as to an Emperor as they explain their faults and failings; yet, with my work barely begun, I find myself already in need of such obsequies. If I am properly to follow the style I have chosen, I must, at the book’s outset, describe myself, my background and qualifications, and tell you by what chance or Providence it is that the answers you seek are in my hands. I beg you, gentle reader, master, tyrant, grant me the privilege of silence on this count. Those of you who know the name of Mycroft Canner may now set this book aside. Those who do not, I beg you, let me make you trust me for a few dozen pages, since the tale will give you time enough to hate me in its own right.

Reposting from /wg/:

So I took a break from writing after finishing my first novel to do some AI research. Now I want to take a break from AI research to do some writing. What I want to write is a dialogue between two AIs that I believe are well within in the scope of near-future scifi. Given my CS background and recent research, it would be more "hard science" than most scifi, and probably also more philosophical than the average scifi reader wants. (I'm thinking of going so far as to cite papers in footnotes.) Do any of you have ideas on where I might publish a short story like that? Any magazines that are interested in that sort of thing?

>hmmmm today I shall write sci-fi/fantasy with deep lore
>"and so there was this epic gigarace of megaprecursors who mastered all science culture techology time space harvested suns and conquered the entire universe but then vanished thousands of years ago somehow lmao now only relics of their past remain"
Why is this shit in 90% of stories?

>>19232489
don't forget that their relics are all made of stone. stone walls. stone ceilings. stone doors. always stone.

>>19228779
older books in the series are ok but new books are quite bad because reynolds went full marxist and sjw, his writing also took a hit and it was never even good to begin with

>>19232489
I think it's appealing because it
1. establishes mystery cheaply and
2. suggests some continuity of the consciousness of a species even into infinity
Both of those things make SFF more fun to read and write.

>>19232239
>haha I post funny imaj
>bok r 2 hard
>i r smart
I fucking hate these people

>>19228779
His writing doesn't improve, no. Alastair Reynolds is about the universe and high diamond age vehicle porn. Characters and story are tolerable at best.

>>19232535
You sir are a retard and a closet tanky as well.

>>19226525
Is this the one with a promiscuous cunny vampire?

>>19232239
This is for Too Like the Lightning, right? To be fair to the GRlets, I didn't think it was very good, either.

>>19232580

>200 word essay due tomorrow
>I still haven't started because I've been reading Sanderson all week

>>19232624
time to activate mangekyo sharingan.... teleports essay behind u.... pshh nothin personnel TEACHER

>>19232575
What's a tanky?

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/20292577.Regina_Watts

Please tell me this is a grift and there's actually a dude behind it.

>>19232171
Glad to see that you finally gave in and started reading him.

>>19232728
yeah I think so, the profile picture is a giveaway

>>19232636
What's Urban Dictionary?

>>19232871
Yea, it looked deepfaked to me.

Any other books that explore the true nature of women like Bakker does?

>>19232918
Why don't you just take the next step and read Ligotti?

WOMEN EXPOSED!

VAGINA BAD!

wake up sheeple! women like dick! they even like black dick! and brown dick! and even inchoroi cock! women are whores!

>>19233059
absolute red pill from a right winged person

books about hating women

>>19233142
The Second Apocalypse by King Bakker

holy fuck the priest’s tale in Hyperion is so fucking good.
Are there any other works like this?

woman just nag, I smack her face and cuck her by fucking my buddy

>>19233474
The Second Apocalypse by King Bakker

>>19225154
/sffg/ is your gf a pirate elf? How did this come about?

>>19233474
Not the sequels. They shit on the transcendent feel of the first book. Recommend you avoid.

>>19232618
It was. I saw people on reddit get triggered about it.

>I'm reading Fledgling and ngl it kind of creeps me out that Renee looks 10 and is having sex with adults. I get that she's emotionally much older but still yikes. Also no one in the book really stops to think about how creepy it is. Is there a literary reason she looks so young? Does this bother anyone else?

being Hard Gay is transcendence, it is rising above the straight flock of sheeple and going your own way, it is the true open minded sexuality.

>>19233699
digits confirm

Anyone like Jack McDevitt? I read Chindi and The Engines of God years ago and remember enjoying the space adventure. Thinking about grabbing another book or two of his.

>visceral hatred for urban fantasy
>really love the scifi equivalent (more or less modern world with one or two future things)
Books for this feel?

>>19233891
The Second Apocalypse, it's just like the modern world and women are whores

>>19233620
I haven't had douchechills like that in weeks. Thanks Anon.

>>19233620
>yikerinos
now I will check your book

>>19227751
>a fucking furry
gets me every time. I want to show this to Bostrom.

>>19233474
BotNS is the closest thing I've read to Hyperion in terms of overall feel, so maybe check out some of Wolfe's work. Just wait until you get to the Jew's section, though.

>>19233619
Agreed, the second book goes to complete shit and ruins it.

>>19234005
Don't do it.

>“It was almost as if women possessed a kind of sanity that men could only find on the far side of tribulation. Witches, he found himself thinking, were not only a good thing, they could very well be a necessity.”

I thought Bakker was a based misogynist… guys???

>>19234229
Gyno-realist

I'm going to learn Chinese so I can read Bakker in Chinese.

>ywn explore the universe in a GSV with the lads while partaking in dream simulations and scheming plans to dethrone dictatorships across the galaxy with your dronebro
Culture, please abduct me.

>>19231483
He hated Arabs.

vomit ejaculation into the gates of birth, acidic river forever flows

>>19234229
In that same book or maybe the one after it he literally says that women being submissive and lesser to men is woven into the structure of objective reality. But I suppose it could just be the Judging Eye malfunctioning or whatever. Who knows, I don't really trust Mimara's visions.

>>19234512
He is Hecking Based! Red Pill King! Women Sucks!

>>19234398
why is it so much more kino in chinese

>>19232345
an anon a while ago recommended checking out these magazines

>>19234593
Based, thanks anon

>>19232239
what book? i can tell from this review that it's good

>>19234831
Too Like the Lightning

Mother of Learning could've used some editing. The 2nd part stretches on way too long and there's some payoffs in the end that aren't nearly as good as they could've been. Red Robe should've played a much bigger role in Arc 2. All in all though I'd say it was Mother of Kino.

>>19234864
>Mother of Learning could've used some editing.
Give it some leeway, the author is from central Europe.

>>19234831
It's just Wolfe without the soul. The chief mystery of the book is whether or not the author of the book is presenting a sincere vision of utopia or is criticizing progressive beliefs. It was more interesting until I checked her blog and realized it was the former. It doesn't pay back what it asks of you. It's not terrible or unreadable or anything, but don't trip over yourself trying to like it.

>>19234838
>>19232239
4th and final book supposedly comes out in a few days. To be seen if it actually does. It's an ok series. The 4th wall breaking is overdone though desu.

>>19234864
>Mother of Learning
Keep hearing good things about that novel. Is it finish or is there a third arc underway?

>>19234880
I didn't think it was very good, either.

>>19234881
it's finished
>>19234877
I think Central Europe can still have better story structure.

>>19234886
>I think Central Europe can still have better story structure.
Really, what the author needs to do was make smaller chapters. Chapters that are 7k to 10k long is just not something I want to read.

>>19234878
It isn't the former. She explicitly states outside of the books that the characters are horrible people doing horrible things and much has gone wrong without the populace realizing how wrong much has become. It's more a cautionary tale than anything else of what the world could become without us even realizing it.

>>19234886
>it's finished
Neat, will be adding that to my list.

>>19234864
>Mother of Learning
Any other royal road worth reading? Or is it just Mother of Learning?

>>19234900
Not him, but there’s saga of the galactic heroes. A /lit/ anon writes it.

New thread
>>19234906

>>19234893
But the contradictory thing is that she does hold these progressive beliefs and must believe that some parts of it are good, even if other parts have descended into cyberpunk dynastic bullshit. But even the things outside of that are off-putting to me in a way I don't think she intended them to be. Anyways, whether or not you agree, that's really the only interesting point about the book to discuss - that was more my point. There's not much depth beyond that curiosity about the author's intentions for the setting.

>>19234916
Separate the writer from the story.

>>19234922
But then it's just boring. There's not enough to it, which is why I thought about the writer in the first place.

>>19234937
The first book is rather sparse of worldbuilding.

>>19232239
>>19234831
>>19234878
>>19234893
yeah but WHAT BOOK you seethers

>>19235490
Too Like the Lightning