/lit/ - Literature

Finally updated the cover huh, most exciting thing I've seen on this board in years

>>19211693
wanker!!!!!

>Doesn't deny death
>Dies
Well how'd that work out for ya?

This book changed my whole life. After I finished it, I gave up on my career and my family, and I've never been happier.

>>19212187
so.. should I read it anon?

>>19212187
>I gave up on my career and my family
what's the story with that anon?

>>19211692
How could I deny death? I'm going to die for sure. lol

>>19212234
Western society is predicated around distracting of harsh truths. You may be able to logically understand death but emotionally accepting it is another thing entirely

>>19212187
I quit my job after reading this!
Happiest I've been in 5 years

>>19212243
Didn't Culture of Narcissism already pretty thoroughly cover this though? What does this book offer? The fact that people live as though they won't die is something myself, and I'm sure countless others, have noticed since they were in high school or earlier.

>>19211692

Cozy fall read.

>>19212260
>its another pessimistic neurotic jewish book that hates on life
Il pass

>As anal play is an essential exercise in human mastery, it is better not interfered with. If the adult anxiously cuts it short, then he charges the animal function with an extra dose of anxiety.
>It becomes more threatening and has to be extra-denied and extra-avoided as an alien part of oneself. This extra-grim denial is what we mean by the "anal character." An "anal" upbringing, then, would be an affirmation, via intense repression
>Penis-envy, then, arises from the fact that the mother's genitals have been split off from her body as a focalization of the problem of decay and vulnerability. Bernard Brodsky remarks about his female patient: "Her concept of woman as fecal greatly stimulated her penis envy, since the lively erectile penis was the antonym of the dead, inert stool"
>Phyllis Greenacre--outstanding student of the child's experiences--had already remarked on this same equation in the child's perception: penis = movement, therefore life; feces = inertia, therefore death
at last i truly see

>>19212198
>>19212230
You should definitely read it before you spend years trying to achieve immortality through an unsatisfying, socially-prescribed causa sui. I was a lawyer! LOL.. But now I'm making my pots, beautiful clay pots swirling with color! I am an artist! I am poly! My love and my art will bring great vibrations to this world which will echo long after I am gone!

>>19212234
The idea is that we are trying to live on, past death, by some action or cause we pursue - often to the detriment of ourselves and . All because of denial of the*reality* of death

>>19211692
Why do some people insist on spoiling life by worrying about death all the time? I'd rather try to find a little meaning and joy in my life.

that book gave me nothing but dread

>>19212765
can't tell if this is an off-handed way to get people to not read it or serious.

>>19214086
It is real, my friend. I've been potting for nearly 10 years now. Doesn't pay as well but I don't need as much now that I see how things are! Plus the potting community has tons of interesting people many of which are very open and giving lovers. I could not be happier even though I cannot afford a BMW anymore, who cares about that crap?

>>19214418
Very comfy anon
Are you still in contact with your family?

>>19214418
How do I get into the potter club :3?

Do elder potters take apprentices?

>hypothetical society accepts death
how would it look like?

>>19214689
Greeks

>>19212739
Why do jews always have to come up with such bullshit

>>19211692
>provide a reductionist explanation for everything
>retards laps it up

>>19211692
>>kike
>>based

are you really dumb or stupid?

>>19212765
You're not even funny

>>19215037
>>19215329
Cope

>>19215346
No. You are the one who is coping.

>>19215404
Cope harder.

>>19215404
Endless cope.

>>19211693
I guess Urantia isn't using it anymore.

>>19212243
Why does it need to be accepted, after all one is going to die anyway and if death is the cessation of the consciousness then none of our thoughts about it during life will matter anymore once it happens. Why bother to deal with it on an emotional level at all? Its akin to owing a debt to some great king and everyday the king's slaves come arrogantly knocking at your door reminding you to pay the debt, pay the debt, but you know that the debt is due the day after your death so you decide to simply never pay it and quietly go about your life.

>>19214921
If history has shown anything, it's that neurotic individuals can't keep to themselves.

>>19211692
>fish people are real
yeah, great book op.

>>19211692
give me a quick rundown

>>19215748
Well, now I'm actually interested.

>>19215787
You gonna die nigga

>>19211692
What do I need to have read beforehand?

>>19212765
>abandoned his family to make pots
Your ancestors and descendants look on you with contempt, for you are a pathetic cretin deserving of naught more than being swept away and works turned to dust.

>>19215874
damn... i never really thought of it that way...

>>19211692
Yeah that amazing boyo anyways how many hoes you banged? you of all people should realise that writing that book was pointless and you wasted your time by writing some meaningless faggotry instead of raping underage sluts at parties
ALL LITERATURE FAGGOTS SHOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER SUICIDE NOBODY WANTS TO READ STUPID BOOKS ABOUT YOUR SCHIZO FANTASIES AND LOGICAL(LMAO IMAGINE THINKING LOGIC IS OF ANY VALUE TO A CREATURE INCABABLE OF IT) CONCLUSIONS PLEASE DONT BURDEN ME AND THE PLANET WITH YOUR USELESS IDEAS SAME AS SOME HEROIN ADDICTS THOUGHTS!!!!!!!
Suck em.
I will not be replying you can all go fuck off and die

>>19214689
The Amish

>>19211692
Why are people still shilling it
Its not very good, the Kierkegaard analysis is cringe

>>19212765
>But now I'm making my pots, beautiful clay pots swirling with color! I am an artist! I am poly! My love and my art will bring great vibrations to this world which will echo long after I am gone!
The book literally argues against immortalizing yourself by "leaving traces behind".

>>19216081
its deep aint it??

How have we not accepted death? Everyone learns and accepts it at an early age. Living life fully and trying to achieve things isn't denying death. Seems like a psued book.

>>19212765
If real you may have missed the point. The book has a very pessimistic conclusion. There is no path to happiness or fulfillment at the end of the book. In fact, he explicitly states that exposing yourself to the true terror of your mortal condition can make routine, automatic, self-assured behavior permanently impossible.

>>19216546
It's not necessarily an argument against immortality projects. It's more of an examination of how civilization is a vehicle to sublimate terror into immortality projects.

You can still do it, but this book explains why you have the impulse to do it, and I guess after reading the book it's impossible to be self-satisfied with the work. Like, moving forward with a certain sense of irony about everything


From the very last page of the book, paraphrasing:
The most we can do is fashion an offering, out of the world our ourselves, and provide tribute to the immense and incomprehensible chaos of the universe.

Tapping into the "sacrosanct vitality of the cosmos" and accepting the absurdity and impossibility of our human condition is all we can hope to achieve.

>>19216767
>Tapping into the "sacrosanct vitality of the cosmos" and accepting the absurdity and impossibility of our human condition is all we can hope to achieve.
I sure hope you're strongly paraphrasing because this sounds retarded.

>>19215978
>Your ancestors and descendants look on you with contempt
They don't, though. That's kind of the point.

>>19211692
>people ascribe meaning to stuff because it protects them from death anxiety
I can't think of a more oversocialized take. It also protects them from actual death, which mr. Becker never had to contend with because of his academic bubble.

>>19216810
Here's the end of the book, and the paragraphs I was referencing

>>19216546
No, the book teachers us that we need an illusion of meaning to live. My causa sui is now more positive and healthy than my previous life as a lawyer. I am happy and I have a purpose, even if it is an illusion.

>>19216767
I think I understood the point quite well. Becker says clearly that we cannot live without a purpose, a causa sui. His intention is for the reader to examine his, and decide if it is the correct thing for them, in light of the knowledge that immortality is impossible and our accomplishments cease to matter upon death. You can still be happy with this knowledge, and you can reduce the strife in this world by not taking your causa sui so seriously

>>19214008
Becker himself became christian

Dude like...it's a le immortality project because...IT JUST IS OK?! STOP DOING SHIT

>>19216919
Ok based. I personally can't pull off what you have, and take the causa sui less seriously, even in light of the knowledge the book provides. I realized have an instinct to double down on the ambition, even if it increases my strife. To release that grip and make love and pottery would amount to egodeath/forfeiting my self. I frequently wish I could be like you.