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I am in a real bad spot right now, I need to know that someone understands what I am going through

>> No.19191137

One Hundred Years of Solitude?

>> No.19191164

>>19191137
Good shout to be honest

>> No.19191192

Proust.
His portrayal of transience is sobering and melancholic, but also blissful at times. It may seem daunting, but he is at least worth checking out.

Some other pieces that come to mind are Waiting for Godot (if you want something bleak) and Time by Pink Floyd (gets straight to the point)

Hoping that you'll be able to pull through this OP :)

>> No.19191207

>>19191192
>Proust
Have stared Swann's way and I agree that this guy has a way with words
>Godot
Have read it
>Time by pink floyd
Didn't one of the band members go crazy or something? (t. not an expert in rock history)

>> No.19191214

>>19191134
Ana Karenina.

>> No.19191220

>>19191134
The Magic Mountain

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>> No.19191232

>>19191134
Hi anon, I'm also in a bad spot on lit rn. Wanna talk?

>> No.19191240

OP here. I'm trans btw. Can you recommend books that might give me insight into my crippling porn addiction?

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>> No.19191246

>>19191207
>Didn't one of the band members go crazy?
That was Syd Barrett in the late 60's, after a long history of LSD/ acid abuse. Its worth listening to the song Jugband Blues, because he basically wrote it as a meditation on his own insanity.

>> No.19191291

>>19191134
Time is a fascinating being. It is the remedy to your problems considering that nothing is permanent except change.
I'm equally in a bad spot and after realising that, my shoulders felt lighter.

>> No.19191444

The Rings of Saturn by W.G. Sebald.
Orlando by Virginia Woolf is you want something quirky.

>> No.19191536
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Emil Cioran. Some of his books:
>The Trouble With Being Born
>On the Heights of Despair
>The Temptation to Exist

Read him if you are in a REALLY bad spot, otherwise, just go with the other recommendation here

>> No.19191543

>>19191214
no, that's about a slut and a self-insert gary-stu.

>> No.19191549

>>19191536
Or how about his book on time called THE FALL INTO TIME?
Good recommendation though for a depressed person watching the clock tick in agony

>> No.19191573

>>19191134
Heidegger's Sein und Zeit, Deleuze's Nietzsche and Philosophy (also Difference and Repetition), Oetinger/Boehme/Schelling/Hermes/Hegel if you want the occult view of time as the unfolding of God/Absolute. These are probably the three largest views of Time in continental thought, the Hermeneutic, Critical and Dialectical. If you want a more purely Existential view of Temporality as it affects human Subjectivity try Nietzsche, Psycho-Analysis and Kierkegaard.

>> No.19191605

>>19191573
I'd add that the three core concepts of pure spatiality attached to each are as follows:
1. Hermeneutic Time - Ex-Stasis (Out-Going), Time is an extension of a Subjectivity that is no longer bound by any delineations, but is rather constituted by a sort of enveloping existential duration.
2. Critical/Differential Time - Event (as the incalculable novelty of a system, Time is a series of pure Events, Difference + Repetition = Time).
3. Dialectics - Un-folding according to a Teleological end: ala Fichte's unfolding Self, Schelling's unfolding Cosmos and Hegel's unfolding Absolute. Here Time is constituted by a progressive but spiral-type series where events occur in accord with certain "movements" of the One. I think the best example of this is probably Boehme's dialectic of Creation, which is later rationalized by Hegel.

>> No.19191624

>>19191549
I'm no Cioran expert, but this guy wrote alphorisms on a fuckton of books consisting of the same topics, even so that you can read any of them in no particular order.

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>>19191134
did no-one say Proust? read Proust,anon.
ALL OF IT.
it will probably help.

>> No.19191644

The Tale of Genji.

>> No.19191651

OP here. No books by crusty old white men please.

>> No.19191687

>>19191651
You have received a lot of great recommendations, OP. Choose those that are most appealing and start reading today if possible :)

>> No.19191701

Ecclesiastes, psalms and proverbs.

>> No.19191713

>>19191134
I just finished A man's place (I think that's how it's been translated into English) and it was wonderful, a great book about the author's father and his death. It might not be exactly what you're looking for but it's really short, might be worth a shot.
>>19191192
I think you'd enjoy it too, I also like Proust and see some resemblance between his work and Ernaux's, she has a much more subtle style but I'd recommend you give her a chance. She also mentions Proust in that book and mentions something regarding Françoise I'd never thought of, it's really minor but is still another reason why it was a nice read.

>> No.19191768

>>19191687
This>>19191651 wasnt me, its just a troll and I agrree the recs have been good so far

>> No.19192081

>>19191639
Others said it, but worth repeating. Proust is what you are looking for.

>> No.19192234

>>19191134
I would recommend reading Hōjōki, its a short essay about the transience of things written by a Buddhist monk back in the late 12th century. Its only like 14 pages but it has left an lasting impression on me, that I can still vividly recall it.

>> No.19192257

>>19191536
>tfw The State gave him free milk
Where did he live?

>> No.19192516

>>19192257
France

>> No.19193017

>>19191134
Other than what other anons recommended you can try Cato Maior by Cicero. It is about aging

>> No.19193464

The Tartar Steppe
>>19191444
I second The Rings Of Saturn

>> No.19193739

>>19191134
Dugin’s theory of time is extremely interesting.

>> No.19193843

>>19191134
Look at this:
>>19191137
Also check out Buddenbrooks

Read a book about/by farmers and ranchers or something similar. Their lives are built around the seasons and they can have useful insights on the passage of time

>> No.19193851

>>19191701
>Ecclesiastes
came here to say this

>> No.19195268

>>19192234
Sounds interesting. Not versed in Buddhism nor Eastern philosophy, but i'll check it out

>> No.19195280

>>19191134
Did you turn 30 recently too? It hurts... all this time... wasted...

>> No.19195731

>>19191134

Just live in the present - that is where eternity abides. Every moment is eternal.

I might also recommend Julian Barbour's The End of Time.

>> No.19196332

>>19195280
Pretty close...

>> No.19197413

>>19191134
anything baroque my friend

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>>19191134
I think this might fit what you're looking for. It's a collection of short stories where the concept of time differs in each story. Each story starts with an explanation of the way time works in that specific story.
So for instance one story starts with: ""In this world, time is like the flow of water, occasionally displaced by a bit of debris, a passing breeze. Now and then, some cosmic disturbance will cause a rivulet of time to turn away from the mainstream, to make a connection backstream. When this happens, birds, soil, people caught in a branching tributary find themselves suddenly carried to the past."
I loved it,some stories are melancholic, others not so much and more fun or simply strange. Definitely recommend reading it.

>> No.19197467

>>19191444
To the lighthouse fits a bit better I think desu

>> No.19197531

Why do I have the experience that time is unbelievably accelerated. It feels like a day is just 6 hours, and an hour just 35 minutes or so.
It's gotten to the point where anytime I am being unproductive I just feel this angst knowing that I just wasted what feels like a majority of my day. And it feels like any minute now I am going to blink and be forty without any greater change for the better.

>> No.19197575

>>19191134
The Magic Mountain
In Search Of Lost Time
The Tartar Steppe

>> No.19197651

>>19197464
Seems interesting. Thanks.

>> No.19197662

>>19197531
You're aging, anon. I don't know if you're a zoomer. I think being surrounded by those gadgets and being connected with everyone 24*7 also factors.

>> No.19197697

>>19197662
I am 24, 25 in January so I think that makes me fall right in the window of being a zoomer.
I am Comp Sci so I have to interface with technology but I don't use any social media, other than youtube and 4chan, or use my phone at all really except for necessities. I think I just fucked my attention span on digitally addictive things like games for a majority of my life, it's going to be fun assembling it back together.
But yeah around my senior year of college that's when time felt like it was reaching full throttle fuck sake.

>> No.19198274

Even if you can't stop coming here, let this place not be your mentor. Don't force yourself to read, but attempt to cultivate a habit if you've not been reading. Get a short story collection from classical literature and read one story before you sleep. Wake up and meditate on something. I too suffer from the same disease, this Modernity malaise. So it's absolutely the case that anything that expands on, ruminates on time will catch our fancy..

>> No.19198289

>>19197697

Was meant for you>>19198274

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>>19197531
>Why do I have the experience that time is unbelievably accelerated.
Because time constitutes a particular compression of external beingness which is constant; growing accustomed to its rate is directly proportional to, either: outgrowing it, or: ingrowing within it; the key is to continue to aetheropressurize, thus optigregating one's abundance, and straightening oneself beyond time, rather than succumbing to the chronic rotation that is intrinsic to kosmos, thus crookedly festering within it.

>>19197697
>I am 24, 25 in January so I think that makes me fall right in the window of being a zoomer.
You are a Millennial; the Millennial generation comprises from year nineteen hundred eightytwo to year nineteen hundred ninetyseven; the Zoomer intergeneration comprises from year nineteen hundred ninetyeight to year twothousand two.

>> No.19199668

>>19199595
define aetheropressurize and optigregating

>> No.19199702

>>19199504
>Which philosophy is true?
Philosophy is a tool for making a person great, nothing more. You'll get nowhere if the philosophy is wrong for you. All extant philosophies are descriptions of a common truth, but like scientific theories they fail to encompass the whole and are thus proven technically "wrong" from various angles. Any philosophy simple enough to sound like universal truth is also totally uninteresting. So, the only way to find truth is to see it. Vision. You can stimulate a vision of truth through philosophy or through experience, but that's the only way to find it.

>> No.19199707

>>19199595

Wrong he's a zoomer.
And you fucked up your last year.
Zoomer is 1997 - 2012

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>>19199668
Aetheropressurization: syntextual prospiration; syncordal/revolutional excellence.

Optigregation: quotaoriented optimization/fullfilment, which entails maintenance of entelechy, and disengagement from endelechy.

>>19199707
You are ignorant.

>> No.19199866

>>19191134
The Dark Tower

>> No.19201044

Bumph (it is pronounced bump)

>> No.19201079

The Tartar Steppe by Buzzati

Magic Mountain by Mann

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>>19199702
Based and Deleuzianpilled

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>> No.19203003

>>19191134
Savage Detectives

>> No.19203149

>>19191134
Moore's Jerusalem.

>> No.19203614

>>19199595
Based.

>> No.19204782

>>19199595
>>19199781
meds

>> No.19204806

>>19191134
>passage of time
But any passage needs a substance. E.g., here is something I wrote just now:

>I sat on the toilet; committed to try a shit once more. To no avail: the shit would not pass. Constipation hung over me like a riddle; and the desired relief would not come; instead it mocked me. How I wanted a successful movement. I would be grateful, even, if only this shit would pass. But evidently I was not up to it. What was wrong with me? I thought. I dwelt in this unhappiness.
So the passage of time without the passage of something is not a possible object of experience. You are going through some movement; maybe it is smooth, perhaps too watery; maybe it is harsh and rough. Now do not make the presumption of thinking that you are the 'only one' who has had to endure such movements; do not be silly: everyone has bad shits. These are opportunities to take a look at your shit; to examine it and to be objective about it.

>> No.19204826

Poems on time and death:
Manrique's Coplas
Dunn's Elegies
Auden's In Memory of Yeats

>> No.19204833

>>19191134
>I need to know that someone understands what I am going through
if you need socialization, go socialize. books are not a good substitute for a brainlet's 'need' to be reassured by popular awareness.