/lit/ - Literature

>>19163798
A thread died for this

>>19163798
Either:
>The Bible and Catechism by Pius X
Or:
>Analects of Confucius
And:
>Das Kapital
These 2.

>>19163798
I am going to delight shitting in your cringe thread: Noam Chomsky. The only radical thinker in the entire world.

>>19163852
Lmaooooooo, opinion instantly discared - but thanks for the bump midwit.

>books about extremist opinion I have picked up
>anyone know any books about thing I already agree with
>can someone recommend books defending my latest zinger against well-adjusted people
>looking for books about the made up thing I want other people to buy into

Summarizing the idea of "immortality projects" as defined by Ernst Becker can send them reeling, sober almost everyone has some silly goal or dream keeping them from going insane in the never-ending wageslavery. But, if you come on too strong they'll just stop talking to you, and hate you for criticizing their dream of retiring to Costa Rica with a boat or baking enough church pies that Christianity will rule for another 2,000 years

>he who wants to teach others may often indeed be silent about the best he knows
t. goethe

Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: A Study of Brainwashingin China by Robert J. Lifton

It's about how Maoists during the cultural revolution would discipline and correct ideologically wayward comrades. Reading it I was struck how these are the same tactics radical liberals use when pushing their sjw ideology which is the intellectual basis for NPCism.

>The language of the totalist environment is characterized by the thought-terminating cliché. The most far-reaching and complex of human problems are compressed into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed. These become the start and finish of any ideological analysis.

Sound familiar?
>Black lives matter! Black lives matter!

>>19163906
Damn that's one hell of a find, thanks mate.

>>19163906
>thought terminating cliche = slogan
well done, you managed to outcringe OP, you absolute fucking moron. I guess proverbs are fascists, too.

>>19163906
>The language of the totalist environment is characterized by the thought-terminating cliché. The most far-reaching and complex of human problems are compressed into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed. These become the start and finish of any ideological analysis.
>it's the jews
Oh wow

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>>19163928
Thanks for the bump, Chud. Whatever you dislike is 100% worth the time.

>>19163798
>make it a literal Nuke of unplugging
I get what you're saying but it's better to take these things kind of slow. As for recs see pic related.

>>19163852
Manufacturing Consent wouldn't be such a bad book to recommend.

>>19163906
Yeah they do that sort of thing all the time.

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>>19164047
appreciate the bump hombre

>>19163877
I just read a summary of the idea and was not left reeling. I would assume most people have thought of this idea on their own.

>>19163798
Propaganda by Edward Bernays
Propaganda by Jacques Ellul
Technological Slavery by Ted Kaczynski

>>19163798
Daodejing

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>>19164433
Interesting but isn't taoism somewhat accepted by the mainstream psyche?

>>19164358
Maybe the summary was too gentle then The idea is that these dreams are like a mistress. The Man dreams about life with the mistress and how good it could be, even though this is a lie When you end up in Costa Rica, you aren't any happier. The point of the dream is to escape into a fantasy of purpose and hope, when there is none. All of their dreams are escapist fantasies. Dreams they spend their entire lives preparing for. acts of desperation to avoid thinking about the reality of their lives.

To be fair Becker argues that we all do this There is no state of mind where someone is not holding on to some immortally project

>>19164752
Not really

Must I fear what others fear? How silly!
Everyone else is joyous as if enjoying the greatest feast, or going up the terraces in spring.
I alone am drifting without direction, like a baby who has not yet smiled.
I alone am moping as if I had no home.
Everyone else has more than they need, I alone seem in want.
I have the mind of a fool, how confused I am!
Other people are bright and clever, I alone am dark.
Other people are alert and self-assured, I alone am dull and muddled.
I am unsettled like the waves of the sea, like the restless wind.
Everyone else has a purpose, I alone am stubborn and awkward.
I am different from other people, Even so, I am nourished by the Great.

Nag Hammadi Library,The Secret Teachings of All Ages, Eliphas Levi, Duke's My Awakening, Platonic Dialogues.

>>19163798
not exactly a book or much of a nuke but i'd say moldbug's open letter to open minded progressives would be a solid start.

>>19163798
The Folly of Fools
Conspiracy Against the Human Race
The Black Swan
Meditations.

>>19164811
This is fucking grade school logic. You could have just said 'the grass is greener on the other side' for fuck sake.

>>19165094
I disagree. The green grass is not implied to be what people lay all their hopes, dreams, and efforts into. You aren't getting it

>>19165114
Yes it is. It means the wanting is better than having because an aspiration gives you something to strive for while attaining what you want likely will.

>>19163798
The thing is your idea of redpill (truth) probably isn't the same as anothers. Calling someone an "NPC" has always been vague and not clearly defined, it's merely just a low intelligence way of dehumanizing people who don't conform to your point of view (whatever that may be).

>>19163798
Honestly, I'd consider the Sequences. Often I find myself talking to people and there are so many concepts that seem obvious in retrospect from reading it but that they can't seem to grasp.

>>19165419
It is clearly defined if you would have bothered to do some research on it - takes like 1-2min to figure it out. Issue is, that "NPC"-word is hurting you somehow, which is why you need to come here and vomit your weak spiel.

The only ones who get offended by "NPC" name calling are NPCs.

>>19165082
>Conspiracy Against the Human Race
Cringe. He said "Books to unplug an NPC", not books to create an eternal one.

>>19163798
Cosmic Trigger

>>19166334
i read part i and it was a mixed bag, i stay for the biopic aspects but aside from that, it´s a really dated and naive book altogether

>>19166345
Prometheus Rising?

>>19163798
>Sexual Dynamics, Society, Morality
get him to watch a biology course at a decent university, plenty are videoed online for free. I remember an animal behaviour lecture when i was at university that had almost identical talking points to the collages made by incels, psychologists and social scientists deny this stuff but biologists are aware of human sexual competition

>>19166367
Cosmic Trigger Part I, i haven´t read PR yet

seriously RAW is an interesting writer but he´s a naive person altogether, he wanting to simp Timothy "CIA SHILL" Leary was embarrassing to read

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLdEE3ZYWdM

>>19165419
>The thing is your idea of redpill (truth) probably isn't the same as anothers
Not exactly an Earth-shattering truth bomb you're dropping here mate, the best you can hope to do is point them in right direction and let them figure out the rest.

>it's merely just a low intelligence way
>of [discrediting] people

>>19163798
>NPC normie who showed signs of finally breaking out of his programming
I would try and stop it. This shit sucks.

Prometheus Rising for general deprogramming and to take everything with a huge grain of salt to not get memed
Denial of Death for a reminder to acknowledge your copes
The Journeys trilogy for the awareness that death might not be the end
The Tao Te Ching for a general approach on life

>>19167535
why?

>>19168095
I remember being kind of a normie once. It was bliss. Maybe that had to do with me being a teenager. But they all seem so carefree. When there told this is the new normal they just accept it without though. When there told to be sad. They are sad. When there told to be outraged they are outrage. When there told to be happy. They are happy. They even get to "rebel" against the system. With no real conquences attached. Sounds like an easy life to me. You get to feel like a rebel without actually challengeing anything. You get to feel like a hero for doing nothing really extraordinary. You get to feel like an intellectual without actually thinking for yourself. Ect.

>>19168171
>without though
Thought

>>19164811
>Reality doesn't live up to your dreams
Wow such a hecking redpill bro I'm totally shaken

>>19168171
You do exactly the same though. When your fellow ideologues tell you to be sad, you're sad, when you're told to be outraged, you're outraged. You've conditioned yourself to view everything through the lense of the ideology.

>>19163798
If the first thing you do for an NPC is tell them to read a book you're gonna lose them forever

>>19168240
Most people are like this, funny thing is they like it

>>19163798
Philosophy is practically the scientific study of being an NPC

>>19163906
Why can't you read books without inserting you myopic perspective into everything?
>the jews did it
>MAGA!
>ywnbaw
>stop the count!
>have sex
Etc

>>19166040
>NPC, the post

>>19168945
> NPC typed >NPC, the post

>>19168934
Isn't the entire point of philosophy examining life and not just taking how it is for granted? Isn't that the opposite of being an NPC?

>>19163996
You do realize saging is an option, right? This is technically a bump as I'm not going to sage, this is an interesting thread to me, but still.

>>19166387
>biology and psychology don't have overlap in fields of study, psychologists deny human sexual competition
Have you even taken any class relating to psychology?

>>19170113
Yes, lol. The only reason people say this is because sometimes it gets popular, and some ideas spread with little critique

Probably watch Hypernormalization and some easy Chomsky for the average normalfag.

Aside from basics like that I've found you can't "wake up" a normie.

>>19170162
Why do people say 'saging' instead of 'sageing'? Do you pronounce it like the English word 'sage' (like a wise person, or the spice) or like the Japanese word it originates from?

>>19163798
>unplugging
If they didn't came to it by themselves ,you're not helping.

>>19163802
A fpbp died for this

You're all normies
But don't worry, we've all known that edgy teen who thought The Matrix was a guide to life, all you need is regular bullying to fix and kys

>>19166334

RAW is pot-wit. F. Roger Devlin FTW.

>>19170351
Expand, I got unplugged by accident after I heard a crazy guy shouting IT WAS DA JOOS. Decided to research what is it that turned him crazy, and ended up getting redpilled AF..

>>19163798
Why would you want to do this? Being an NPC is unironically better in every conceivable way. They're happier, more successful, and live more fulfilled lives. Being "redpilled" is maladaptive.

>>19171847
Maybe you feel as Socrates did that the unexamined life is not worth living.

i wish i was a npc again. fuck this suffering

>>19163798
You’re welcome normie

>>19171472
midwit take

>>19172070
NPC, hylic and bugmen are massive midwits cope
>I'm so special for having babies first metaphysical questions and finding esotheric shit cool, everybody else is just a soulless machine

>>19163798
you can't wake someone who's pretending to be asleep.
you don't understand the concept of an NPC because you are one.
nearly everyone is.

>>19166470
Prometheus rising is pretty good.
Cyberpunk take on the Chakra system
(adapted from Leary's ramblings if that matters to you)
True about Leary, but almost every single occultists/spiritist/new agers of note have been glowies or proto-glowies
John Dee
Crowley
D.Fortune
Jack Parsons
probably Huxley
and that's just off the top of my head

>>19172085
soulless husks running purely on programming and find no joy or fascination at the prospect of existing as a conscious and expanding being.
surely you've met or at least noticed them. And if not, congratulations on being a normie. Please enjoy a long and pointless life.
>Hylic
one of 3, the other two types being Psychic and Pneumatic
Psychic would probably correspond well to the 'midwit cope' you're referencing.

>>19172085
forgot picrel

whats mencius moldbug like?

>>19172306
Extremely wordy.

>>19163798
Culture of Narcissism by Christopher Lasch

>>19163877
Try Jung

>>19163798
How do I self-unplug myself?
I've recognized that I am an NPC.

>>19163882
Yes, he should be cautious about the books he recommends, it isn't about staying literally in silence, you absolute retard.

>>19172373
Start with the greeks.

>>19172365
Start with the Greeks.

>>19172182
Definitely Huxley. He was an Mk Ultra operative and planner. His whole family is tied in.

>>19168240
>When your fellow ideologues tell you to be sad, you're sad, when you're told to be outraged, you're outraged
What ideology do I even ascribe to? Who are my fellow ideologues? I'm a self interested pragmatist. Whatever gets me the most shit I'm for. Whatever takes shit from me I'm against. Simple.

Don't project you being a tool onto me.

>>19172365
Pull the longest thread that holds everything in your life together, so that everything falls apart at once
Psychological and emotional trauma mixed with an innate desire to grow is all you need. The first happens by coincidence, the second must be self-inflicted

>>19163798
thinking you're one of the few who really gets it and everyone is sheeple is literally the standard npc line of thought today

>>19173841
Don't care, tnx for the bump

>>19170555
My fpbp died for this

>>19163798
https://archive.org/details/ThomasDaltonDebatingTheHolocaust

>>19163846
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>>19163798
Give him the ((( protocols))) now!

>>19172345
This but Technological Society by Ellul and you'll actually really help.

lmaoing at all the stereotypical /lit/ recs itt.
You’re definitely not npc’s guys.
I know of a book that would unplug you but I you’ll have to prove you’re worthy.

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>>19163798
no

>>19174090
I don't care

>>19174361
Prove how?

>>19174278
This but Propaganda by Ellul and you'll actually really help.

>>19172829
>Whatever gets me the most shit I'm for. Whatever takes shit from me I'm agains
sounds like an NPC belief system to me. kys swiftly

>>19163906
looking it up, thanks

>>19163798
March Of The Titans: The Complete History Of The White Race, Arthur Kemp
A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind, Stephen Goodson
The Culture Of Critique, Kevin MacDonald

Easily the top 3 unplugging books.

>>19163798
If he would need books he is still an NPC. Build your own perception you faggots

>>19170555
the fpbp meme is literally cancer, you are cancer

>>19163798
In matrix, human-perspectivism is the evidence that you are the npc. Smith was the only character who actually had a soul in the movie.

>>19163798
I'd help wake him up to the truth.

>>19178853
Might as well link Captain Underpants at this point........

>>19177054
>March Of The Titans: The Complete History Of The White Race, Arthur Kemp
Are you a glowie? This is such a ridiculously bad book

bump

>>19163798
No amount of reading makes you less of an NPC. It simply changes your NPC script and programming. PCs, eg player characters, are defined by their ability to go outside the scope of NPCs and change things.

>>19172202
I agree. They are useful conceptual classifications for observable naturally occurring dynamics. Hand waving them away as "midwit cope", ironically enough, seems more like a midwit cope to me. Anon seems to have noticed the ego inflation that occurs within some individuals and discarded the usefulness of these concepts entirely because of it.

>>19163798
>society of spectacle (plus its short)
>anti tech revolution
>Tao ching

>>19163846
Switch out the Bible for the Qur'an and add all three

>>19182882
Isn't the Tao Te Ching written in a rather abstruse poetic style?

>>19182971
Yes but it’s a good way for most people to realize there is more to our lives than matter and meat without talking about Jesus who a lot of people may be quick to roll there eyes at. But you’re right something more accessible would be better, replace the Tao Ching with anything by manly p hall

>>19183109
Do you think Zhuangzi is any more accessible?

>>19163798
I know it's not real literature, but the manga shamo has had a pretty big impact in the way I see things. It taught me that the world doesn't care about what you want or what you need, if you don't assert yourself you'll be swallowed up and spit out. The only things that will determine your chances of success are courage, hard work, and a bit of intelligence.

>>19183485
>not real literature
Says who?

Why not just talk to him? Relax, talk and break bread over the fact that you've found a potential friend.

>>19163798
The Selfish Gene
Unabomber manifesto
Race, Evolution, behavior
Culture of Critique
The Bible(for the stuff about patriarchal marriage)
A history of central banking

That is a good starter pack for the young edge lord. I am not necessarily endorsing these books apart Selfish Gene and the Bible but they are undoubtedly very effective at making people consider taboo stuff

>>19183544
>The Bible(for the stuff about patriarchal marriage)
Isn't its main purpose simply laying down religious laws rather than making any sort of case for them? Why not pick some text that's actually written to argue the case for patriarchal marriage, instead of one written in a culture that took it for granted that it was right and was mainly concerned with making sure it was enforced?

you don't unless they genuinely want it
you can't forcefully get them out it leads to disaster
"ask and you shall receive" is important

>>19183582
Unironically because I dont know of such a text. The bible is the only "respectable" book on aware of that advocated for full on women-are-property patriarchy. I have only ever seen blogs from far right guys and muslims openly espouse that position, never a contemporary book.

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>>19168935
The bias here is thinking that there's only one totalitarian side of american politics, and not facing the evident reality that american totalitarians have every incentive to subvert and coopt any potentially popular social movement into a totalitarian one. Stop relying on collectives to overturn the masters of a collective.

Just like buying out your competition is how you win in american commerce, buying out your competition is how you win in american politics.