/lit/ - Literature

>>19158232
There is

>>19158232
i'm reading that too
not muslim tho

>>19158243
That book is thought provoking as hell, especially if you go into the bibliography and start reading the books he’s citing. It’s a very weird rabbit hole to go down

>>19158700
Qrd?

>>19158700
>>19158243
What's this about?

>>19158232

>>19158232
There's some interesting stuff in the Quran. If you're into the Talmud, midrash, apocrypha, and pseudopigrapha, you'll see that the Quran borrows a lot of elements from those resources. Some stories are lifted directly from those sources. It's got interesting poetry too (though Muslims will deny that it is poetry, even while it is rhythmic, rhyming verse, insisting that the rhymes in the Quran are "different" somehow).

>>19158795
>>19158911
It's all a bunch of bullshit, don't bother looking into these nutcase """historias""""

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revisionist_school_of_Islamic_studies

>>19158975
>It's all a bunch of bullshit
>wikipedia
Sounds like tthere might be something to this

>>19158232
read this

>>19158918
Based and Christ-Pilled.
I've always wondered why it is that people go after the one religion that is historically verified, and shows the fewest signs of historical revisionism.
Is it because religious parents are overbearing, or just a fear of being called racist for criticizing something that primarily brown people believe?

Only a faggot would be interested in this donkey shit piece of trash.

>>19160468
I'm a dumbass faggot and I'm learning some arabic so I'm able to recite it. I'm not a muslim, I'm just very interested in islam.

>>19158920
>It's got interesting poetry
its prose.
>though Muslims will deny that it is poetry, even while it is rhythmic, rhyming verse
It isn't straight prose or rhymed prose primarily. It is divided into verses which break where the speech ends, and it then resumes and repeats in the following verses. I think the absence of consistent meter is what differs it from all other forms of poetry.

>>19158795
>>19158911
Basically a ton of early Islamic shit isn’t quite Islamic. The earliest Mosques do not point towards Mecca, they face Petra. Certain early documentations of Muhammad and Islam which are supposedly relics from the earliest Muslim groups, for instance the Dome on the Rock inscription, are actually from old Nestorian communities. Muhammad’s life is a historical fiction that grants legitimacy to the ruling powers of the time

>>19158975
>>19159126
there isn't. Look at this guy>>19160625. According to him and others the Arabs decided to come together and come up with the most convoluted conspiracy

>>19158232
The Quran is a short book that can be read in a single sitting. It was frequently memorised in its entirety in the past (and still is actually). It’s short!

These massive 1,000 page “qurans” are a marketing thing for the western audience, because the western conception of a holy book is a massive tome (the Bible). By just padding it with pages of useless shit it adds more gravitas to the printing in the western mind.

The genius of the “study Quran” is that the padding is an apology that makes the Quran more palpable to western sensibilities.

Taylor Swift has really pretty feet.

>>19160732
Bruh, have you listened to the entire Qur'an recited? Reciting the Qur'an in measure takes about a month among laypeople. Youre not supposed to read the Qur'an like youre reading a fairytale, nor are you supposed to read the OT and NT like that too. It's supposed to be recited(in its original language, which christians do not understand). a huge part of scripture that often goes underlooked among westerners is the rhyming, aliteration and little nuances that really makes a difference.

>>19158232
The Qur'an was sent down by God in the Arabic language. If you can't read/understand Arabic, you should listen to its recitation while reading its translation.

>>19160755
116 pages, bro.

>>19158918
I was so close to converting to Islam until a Christian friend of mine beat me over the head with arguments akin to what this image shows. At first I didn’t want to take them seriously, but the more I pondered it, the more troubling it became, and eventually through prayer, despite what I would have chosen myself, God revealed that I was to follow Jesus to me, and so I became a Christian. I am thankful that I was kept away from this religion. God bless

>>19158920
Don't forget the bits about the Qur'an being rewritten multiple times and the most poetic parts being completely ripped from the Syriac Bible.

>>19160783
Well, yes. The Qur'an is the revelation of one prophet while the Bible is all the revelations before (and its additions to it).
The Bible is larger, which is why people don't recite it. But the Qur'an is actually quite long. Plus, I wouldn't trust a ((Clear)) and ((Easy to Understand)) (((Modern))) English translation of the Qur'an.

>>19160848
>completely ripped from the Syriac Bible.
Where?

>>19160837
>t. idolater larper

>>19160783
The standard Arabic edition is a bit more than 600 pages.

>>19160837
Better to be Christian than pagan or, god forbid, Jewish. But then again, Christianity is Paganism.

>>19160888
Yeah, and like 500 pages of that is just honorifics, "peace be upon him" and shit.

>>19161082
the Qur'an was not made to please you. You don't question Scripture. If you do, you become like the West/

>>19161268
t. qutb

>>19160882
>>19160900
Seethe

>>19160837
Based

>>19161268
>You don't question Scripture
So blind belief is better?