/lit/ - Literature

>>19155086
I'll go first.

You know there's a >>/mu/ sic board, right?

>>19155101
Man Without Qualities

>>19155108
they all have the same taste and don't care about analysis of music

yes I've already read Dune and Messiah was better

>>19155113
fear and loathing in las vegas

>>19155086
>Like, how one of the huge criticisms of music is that its meaning to a single person can be completely based on the sound of a song rather than the words? That's fucking crazy, man.
Music is preciated affectively before it is intellectually, and sensorially; to fathom a piece of music —or any piece of art in general— is to have an aesthetic experience of it; to comprehend it is to be capable of critically evaluating it.

>I don't understand the appeal of music at all but I do go on listening binges every few days.
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>>19155194
>...to fathom a piece of music —or any piece of art in general— is to have an [aesthetical] experience of it...

all art is a farce and a facade. a vague cloud intended to obscure the lack of meaning in the work, a sad attempt at an impossible sorcery... one cannot fabricate a meaning in a universe without

>>19155422
>one cannot fabricate a meaning in a universe without
meaning is a spook

Wakefulness and Obsession: An Interview with E.M. Cioran

>When do you usually listen to music?

>XIII: I listen to music all the time, especially now that I have stopped writing. I don't feel that it is worth the effort to continue, and music more than makes up for this dryness. To live without music would be a torment for me, an absurdity. One can very well not write. One ought not to write, because one desires, without admitting it, to bring about through words what only music can accomplish. An emotion whose origin is musical gets lost in verbal transposition, whereas in the music it reveals its sense directly. Why should one write anymore, in that case, and why write at all, why always want to add to the immense number of books, why want to become an author at any price? These days, too much has already been written. We live in a period of absurd and completely unnecessary overproduction. The whole world writes these days, especially in Paris. I myself originally thought that I would write only a little, but one allows oneself, unfortunately, to be seduced. Nevertheless, I now understand that I can no longer play out this comedy. Earlier on it had nothing to do with comedy; it was a kind of necessity for me. It offered me the possibility of acquitting myself, for the only way to simplify everything is to express oneself. As soon as one has written something down, it loses its secret at once, it gets lost, is killed: one has "killed" the thing and oneself. But writing has precisely this function. I have noticed, by the way, that those who do not write have more resources, because they store up everything within themselves. To have written something down means to have dragged it out of oneself, to have uttered definitively everything that came from inside. A writer is someone who gives away that which is most original to him, finally losing, in this manner, his whole substance. That is why writers are so uninteresting as a rule and I mean that quite seriously: writers are people who have exhausted themselves. Only the dregs of themselves still exist; they are pitiful marionettes."

>>19155086
music is proof that there is more to our aesthetic appreciation, as something as unrelatable and abstract as arrangements of frequency ratios can cause the visceral reactions they do. the underlying symmetry and contrast can be seen in every artform structurally and for me at least musicality is the aspect that unifies all art and implies that what we really like in even stories isnt really the emphatetic reactions or the useful didacticism but the shapes of circles and pyramids played out in time which is beautiful or at least once was before autumn and heartbreak ;(

>>19155422
>meaning
value doesnt lie in semantic meaning or purpose, but what we really mean by meaning, which is the feeling you get momentarily when experiencing something "meaningful"

>>19155086