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Books to help me understand why women are incapable of romantic love?

>> No.19149646

>>19149632
you're attracting certain types of women to you. stop looking for the same girl over and over again.

>> No.19149654

>>19149646
If that certain type of woman is "non-existent" that would explain why I'm still a virgin.

>> No.19149656
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Women are irrational while men are the opposite, basically.
They go by emotions, not straight logic. You gotta get good at fooling her by emotions, thats it.
Easier said than done.

You could read Models by Mark Manson too.

>> No.19149659

I hate women more than everybody else on this website combined and even I think this is too many fucking women hate threads for one day, at least go post in one of the existing women hate threads for fuck's sake this one isn't even fun

>> No.19149661

>>19149654
if you're a virgin, how can you make the claims you made in the OP?

>> No.19149669

>>19149661
Because being a virgin doesn't prevent me from talking to women.

>> No.19149671

>>19149669
Read this shit you fucking retard. >>19149656

>> No.19149673

>>19149669
it's different when you're talking to a woman as a friend or acquaintance than it is when in a relationship.

>> No.19149681

>>19149673
Yes, I have been in relationships before.

Why are people giving me pushback? Just recommend me books or fuck off.

>> No.19149687

>>19149681
we both know you don't actually want any recommendations. but i do wish you the best in figuring things out in this area of your life.

>> No.19149692

>>19149687
Don't tell me what I fucking want, cunt.

>> No.19149701
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>>19149632

>> No.19149706

>>19149701
What an awful chart

>> No.19149718

>>19149701
D.H. Lawrence was based and the only one with real insight into women on this list.

>> No.19149719

>>19149632
Romantic love isn't real. How can you expect them to engage in something that is impossible?

>> No.19149722

>>19149706
YWNBAW

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>>19149632

>> No.19149737

>>19149722
YWNBAM

>> No.19149764

>>19149701
The pink color of this chart is making me horny, but not in a nice way

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>>19149632
Anything by Houllebecq and everything by Darwin.

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>>19149632
Because they get absolutely no reproductive advantage from feeling romantic love. However, they get TONS of advantages from making YOU feel romantic love. If a woman falls in love, she's liable to do something (biologically) idiotic, like stay with an unfit male reproductive partner. That's no good for her genes, and so women are simply less likely to feel romantic love (although human society has fucked evolution hard enough that some women still do feel it; after all, half their genes are from MEN, who do feel romantic love).

Everyone who seethes about how men are supposedly more rational, and women are emotional has fundamentally misunderstood the question at hand. Men and women are both largely irrational, driven by a combination of biological motivations (hunger, shelter, reproduction) and social customs, which are themselves derived from biological influences. However, they also have vastly different reproductive strategies, with men having evolved to stick their dicks in as many women as possible, but also to care for one (or a small group) of reproductive partners. Biologically speaking, women only need to lure those men, and care for their children.

tl;dr Unless you are her child, a woman will never truly love you... And even that's kinda iffy, since women kill their children all the time. You've been cuckolded by biology and genetics.

Hope that helps, OP. Understanding will help you get over this seething butthurt you have. Men and women are just operating on fundamentally different wavelengths, it's that simple. If you want a woman's (approximation of) love, you'll present yourself as both a genetically-fit male, and someone who care care for and protect her.

pic unrelated

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it's all in here

>> No.19149791

romantic love is about rejecting SOME of your instincts(and some the systems that drive you) because you want to spend the rest of your life with someone

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>>19149784
sadly this is the cast with most women. concepts such as loyalty, honor, valor - those are masculine traits. women are only loyal to themselves/emotions.

>> No.19149826

>>19149784
>>19149806
Then explain to me why women are so attracted to evil males, then.

>> No.19149834

>>19149632
This is /lit/. This is not a place for you to blog your incel diary excerpts and disguise them as book requests. Take it to >>>/r9k/

>> No.19149839

>>19149784
>Because they get absolutely no reproductive advantage from feeling romantic love.
Wrong. You stopped studying sexual selection too soon. In species like humans good long term parenting can be seen as a genetic fitness advantage. "Beta male" archetypes serve this provider/parent function better than "alpha" archetypes. Both strategies are viable. It's likely to be the reasons we see so much of these in society. Sure, there's a lot of cuckoldry and cheating, but to try and broadly brush all of these things aside is denying obvious evidence.

I've seen many women touting this genetic fitness idea without realizing that for them to be genetically fit themselves they must have viable children who then have viable children. It doesn't matter if you were born beautiful and healthy if your whorish instincts are so strong that you never actually reproduce or generate a next generation capable of reproducing themselves.

Romantic love is a completely different world and ball-game that may or may not be related to any of the discussion above, in a case by case basis.

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>>19149826
Women are attracted to guys that other women are attracted to. It's not complicated. Most want and merit the bad guy.

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>>19149632

>> No.19149863

>>19149847
But why do they want the bad guy, then?

>> No.19149875

>>19149839
A point well made. But "romantic love" needs only to last long enough for a baby to be made, then the parenting instincts from the parents can compensate for a dead romance.
I think romantic love exists as a biological state to induce mating. We build it up to something more and dream that it can last for 50 years

>> No.19149890

>>19149858
hahaha. they can't help but squash any single glimmer of originality on that shithole site

>> No.19149896

>>19149632
You have that in reverse, of course.

Ah, well. Some males know love well enough. But it’s you people who are broken. You realize this, right?
Stop post PORNOGRAPHY on my board, r9kbot

>> No.19149899
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>women have no empathy

Bros... You cant be this dumb.

>> No.19149901

>>19149863
They want the bad guy most often because they have no father figure to direct their choice. The bad guy will never commit, but he does offer excitement. A young woman is most often unable to make the prudent choice. That is partly why 70% of divorces are initiated by women, and that skyrockets to 90% if she has a degree.

Traditional women however, marry young with the man being vetted by her father and family.

>> No.19149904 [DELETED] 

>>19149899
(((Simon Baron-Cohen)))

>> No.19149905

>>19149839
hmm, this is the basic Freudian concept as well, that you are "pre-programmed" in a way to sexually pursue the same strategy that allowed you to be born, by having it replicated and reproduced by your parents, since they successfully had you, and that people's sexual desires are inescapably structured around this initial drama which seeks to reproduce the conditions of one's own childhood because that will actually produce children for yourself.

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>> No.19149917

Moderator. It is against the rules. Do not forget to take this one out too. >>19149904

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>>19149917
LMAO you're not on reddit, faggot.

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>>19149632
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>> No.19149926

>>19149863
Not all of them want the bad guy.
Some of them want the bad guy for now, but a good guy for a long term commitment.
Some of them want to try and fix the bad guy, and will end up raped and killed or something.
There's all kinds of viable and non-viable combinations that might happen, some of which will produce viable offspring and some won't.

"Masculine behavior" can be sexually selected for. It's been observed in other species. Aggressive, posturing, etc behavior. It's possible this is what they see in those bad guys.

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>>19149926
The majority of them want the bad guy especially because the women of today are so bereft of morality that they are not deserving of a relationship of any real consequence.

Most women today would rather the unending attention from social media/male friends than from a husband and children.

>> No.19149950

>>19149632
love is a manipulative bourgeois emotion

>> No.19149982

>>19149950
Retarded take. Romantic love as we know it was created as a part of chivalry by the medieval aristocracy. What you're seeing now with all of this "Love conquers hate" "Love everyone" etc bullshit is bourgeoisie.

>> No.19149985

>>19149982
And it was created to fool teenage girls into opening their legs to knights or poets.

>> No.19149987

>>19149924
This is just mean, this kind of behavior will lead you to evil eventually. It's okay to mock and be adversarial, but being vicious toward random individual members of a class of loathsome people (liberal air-heads) rather than the class as a whole is not only cruel, it's unstrategic, because it makes you seem like a bully to people who don't already share your views. Even to people who do share your views, like me, it makes me sympathetic for the dumb airhead. She isn't evil, she just doesn't know better. Even if she's annoying and stupid as fuck, it still doesn't really make sense to focus all your hate in on her like this.

She can't even understand it, she didn't feel rebuked in this exchange, she just felt threatened and scared if anything. When you feel surrounded by dumb shitty people it can feel good for a second or two to vent your anger in a way that makes one of them scared of you, but ultimately that is both useless and cruel. And ultimately it will turn you into a merely hateful, spiteful person who just wants to hurt one or a few random representatives of a group you hate. You should be careful about fomenting that kind of cruelty in yourself.

>> No.19150006

>>19149929
She made a perfectly valid decision. A cheap ass is worse than a broke ass.

>> No.19150036

>>19149632
Women are a reflection of the men in their lives. If actual love and appreciation is not found in them, they'll result to excitement and stimulation. Most women are sick creatures as most men are spineless freaks.

>> No.19150046

>>19149929
>>19150006
Yeah not sure what's the point of posting this, her gripes are warranted. She hung around for nearly a year, and he wouldn't hear a word from her even before she found out he's worth a ton.

>> No.19150088

>>19149632
they are, but are you?

>> No.19150104

>>19149632
I second Houellebecq. What film is this?

>> No.19150141

>>19149899
i wish it were true but it's not.

>> No.19150168

>>19150141
it's so true

>> No.19150172

>>19150046
>>19150006
>t. sociopathic women
he set up a filter and she failed. the only way relationships will stop being totally unequal is if men also do what all women do and demand something from women.

>> No.19150174

>>19149826
Because most people who can be arguably said to be 'evil' are also powerful, or at least violent. Violence is attractive, because it signals genetic health. If your mate can kill people at the drop of a hat, then your child can also; If your child can kill people at the drop of a hat, then they can defend themselves from dangers.

>>19149806
You're still thinking with normative, qualitative language. Men have sense of honor, for example, because it's evolutionarily advantageous, not because there's anything morally good about honor (despite the fact that I really do believe there IS; it's just not the reason we have that).

>>19149839
>Romantic love is a completely different world and ball-game that may or may not be related to any of the discussion above, in a case by case basis.
This is fundamentally what I'm saying. Good elaboration over all, but I don't think it contradicts my original point.

>>19149632
Anyway, OP - Stop thinking with this whole, 'woe is me,' incel-lite mindset. Women are just here to reproduce, and so are you. Your feelings of immense heartbreak (read: butthurt) are also just designed to motivate reproductive behavior. Get over yourself.

>> No.19150193

>>19149985
yeah dude something mainly concerned with warrior virtues in a society that frowned upon promiscuity is totally just about appealing to teenage girls

>> No.19150198

>>19150168
likely in potential but not in practice

>> No.19150204

>>19150172
>he set up a filter and she failed
you say this, yet I'm pretty sure you react to a women setting up juvenile tests for men like
>nooo women who put you through childish tests are guaranteed slags reeeee
get fucked incel

>> No.19150233

>>19150172
Pretty retarded filter. He didn't look like just a normal guy, he looked like a guy with no ambition and no future. Any decent female would break it off, because most women want security more than anything. He's filtering out any women worth marrying because he thinks his life is a romantic comedy.

>> No.19150248

>>19150198
in nature

>> No.19150262

>>19149701
Based chart

>> No.19150293

>>19150233
>he thinks his life is a romantic comedy
If it isn't, why are there women in the comments of that post battering her?

>> No.19150303

>>19149632
romantic love was a concept created by hollywood to put people in seats to see movies and sell them the idea of a magical romance was entirely possible. the concepts of it have always existed, like the romantic era, but it's never been as prevalent as before and it's all in service of the greedy capitalist money-grubbing fatcats in hollywood who love hearing you losers agonize over somehow not getting some idealized version of a woman and being mad at all women because they can't fit the standards you got from some dumb movies

the true blackpill is that both genders are mostly incapable of 'romantic love' and most people, regardless of if they're a man or woman, are inherently horrible people only out for themselves.

>> No.19150309

>>19150303
feelings aren't created by hollywood retard. They're brain-generated.

>> No.19150322

>>19150309
retard, their job is literally to create provocative feelings inside of you by creating movies that appeal to your emotions, desires, and insecurities

>> No.19150329

>>19150293
Kek wtf. Reddit... tis a silly place.

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>>19149912
I wanna see the receipts

>> No.19150369

>>19150322
you must be an NPC

>> No.19150826

Found an amazing girl who loves to cook and be nice to me all the time, after dating and sleeping with 10 girls I am glad to have this faith on females restored. You just gotta be out there, there are some great chicks that are surprisingly disgusted with nihilistic and hedonistic behaviour and just want an old school relationship and haven't slept around a ton. Easier said than done but if you focus on looking good and in finding a (probably religious) girl with morals, it's definetly worth the effort as you will likely spend the rest of your life with such a creature.

>> No.19150831

>>19150826
This. Develop a lack of patience with average woman bullshit without losing faith in women in general and you'll find the right ones, just make sure you're actually worth it yourself.

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>>19149875
I think it starts as something romantic and passionate and then it can become a good friendship with moments that revive that initial spark of passion and romance, usually with role-playing, lingerie or flat out intoxication on a vacation. But I think is immature to think that the honeymoon period of a relationship will last decades, that's why I believe that men should cheat and not get caught in order to be happy in a marriage.

>> No.19150852

>>19149987
Totally agree. Nothing smart or witty about this, just resentful and bitter taste.

>> No.19151063

>>19149987
>She isn't evil, she just doesn't know better.
Not him but try to explain things to people in the nicest possible way and they will laugh. Just pick an ethical subject like idk, factory farming and you'll see the real colors. People are like domesticated chimps.

>> No.19151072

>>19150826
>and haven't slept around a ton.
lol they're just not telling you
one day when you'll be committed or bound by a baby, you'll know about the 300 guys whose dick she sucked

>> No.19151095

>>19151072
If you're smart you can make the conversation of past sexual relationships welcoming or even pretend it turns you on to hear about who she was with, there are many ways to get the truth out once a person trusts you, you don't have to wait that far into a relationship.

>> No.19151107

>>19149731
ugh. that fucking comma splice.

>> No.19151134

>>19149896
what a bore you've become.

>> No.19151147

>>19151095
lmao sure anon you won't get a partial truth until a couple years into the relationship