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I've been meaning to start properly reading and learning philosophy for three years now, but I've so far been overwhelmed by it all. What's the proper reading order?

>> No.19136028
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>>19136004
What part of 'start with the Greeks' do you people not understand?

>> No.19136029

>>19136004
read copleston

>> No.19136036

>>19136028
thanks anon

>> No.19136089

>>19136028
Start with the pre socratics

>> No.19136137

>>19136036
Don’t use that chart, most of it is not philosophy. Just start with Plato, then aristotle.
>>19136089
And don’t do this, because for the 100th time, nearly all our information on presocratics comes from plato and aristotle, they have no complete surviving works and people who say this are just outing themselves as someone who has no idea what they are talking about and hasn’t read anything

>> No.19136261

Plato, Aristotle, Stanford Encyclopedia for Empiricists and Rationalists and then read Schop Nietzsche Heidegger and finish with Jordan Peterson
ez

>> No.19136849

>>19136261
>Stanford Encyclopedia for Empiricists and Rationalists
t. Brainlet who couldn’t understand the CPR

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>>19136004
Philosophical supervirility predisposes one to start from the end; if you cannot find clarity in the end, or somewhere in the middle, then start strictly chronologically, from the beginning.

>> No.19137440

>>19137428
So the reason I can't stop myself from reading Hegel when I haven't finished Kant and from reading Kant when I haven't even started Aristotle is because I am philosophically supervirile? I think I'm just lazy

>> No.19137456

>>19137440
The quality of being philosophical implies clairvoyance; you may just be impatient, and/or imprudent.

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>>19136004
Don't worry, OP. If you're anything like me, you hate these complete works editions and charts of 12 collections of poetry and theatre just so you can maybe understand Plato's historical context. It's too many dialogues, too many treatises, and you're not an academic, so you're probably not gonna read them all, and you definitely don't need footnotes covering half the first page. It's too much.

I made my own chart for editions of Plato which are less academically obsessed than the ones generally produced by Hackett for their complete works edition. Some of these are out-of-print, so you'll have to get them used. You can go to alibris.com or a physical used book store. Do not buy cheap print-on-demand versions of these works, like the "Scholar Select" editions you sometimes see on Amazon. There are all kinds of formatting issues with them which will turn you off from properly starting philosophy.

I'll reply later with the Aristotle version. Keep this thread updated.